[00:07] <ash_worksi> join #sqlite
[01:00] <gnUser> Can you guys recommend a PDF reader that supports bookmarking in ubuntu?
[01:24] <zerohour999> Is anyone super familiar with LUKS encryption? When I initially installed ubuntu, I encrypted my entire drive, but now I'd like to make a partition to dual boot OS's. However, after attempting to partition the drive, I still was unable to access it because it was still hidden by the encryption upon attempting to install the second OS. The partition
[01:24] <zerohour999> existed, but it was invisible and still hidden as a part of the primary partition.
[01:25] <zerohour999> I opened this up on StackExchange and nothing seemed to work. For reference if you want: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/602316/remove-luks-encryption-from-single-partition-of-disk
[01:27] <sarnold> zerohour999: I think the post could be improved by editing it to include if you are using gpt or mbr partition table, if you are booting linux to legacy or uefi, if you booting windows to legacy or uefi, and if the kde tool resized any filesystems as part of repartitioning or not
[01:27] <edoneerf> if you want Windows on any unit I suggest to get a separate unit and do the three-stack VeraCrypt fde on the whole Windows-unit
[01:28] <edoneerf> dual booting is pain
[01:30] <edoneerf> and begin with Serpent since we all know AES is sketchy. Or do either-or I'd never rely on AES in any case
[01:31] <zerohour999> @sarnold it's a gpt partition on uefi, if that helps
[01:31] <edoneerf> Serpent technically won, it's just that the NSA et-al loves AES Rinjandel or whatever
[01:31] <edoneerf> for a reason
[01:31] <edoneerf> right
[01:32] <sarnold> zerohour999: so that 'misc' partition is an EFI fat partition?
[01:32] <zerohour999> @sarnold Yes, exactly
[03:06] <DarkTrick> Q: How do I disable update checks? I disabled update checks in within the update settings ("Automatically check for updates"), but even though update* processes regularly start.
[03:31] <Bashing-om> DarkTrick: Have a read in " /etc/cron.daily/apt " and " /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades " .
[03:36] <DarkTrick> What should I find in there?
[03:37] <DarkTrick> 50unattended-upgrade seems empty (everything commented out)
[03:37] <DarkTrick> cron.daily/apt does not exist
[03:37] <sharpie> read and read more?
[03:49] <DarkTrick> Perhaps my way of asking was unfortunate.
[03:50] <DarkTrick> I set "Automatically check for updates" to "Never". Is this the wrong place to disable automatic updates?
[04:10] <semitones> Is it possible, nay, is it plausible, in today's day and age, to have a desktop computer with a portable laptop-esque interface?
[04:10] <semitones> Like the image is streamed from the gfx card over the network to a screen
[04:11] <semitones> And touchpad/keyboard inputs are streamed back
[04:11] <semitones> Pregame likeBut it's fast and upgradable like a desktop
[04:11] <semitones> Portable* like
[04:18] <CarlFK> semitones: "yes".. remote desktop things, like VNC.  which is close, but not the same
[04:19] <semitones> Because I know steam link exists
[05:17] <harryguerrilla[m> DarkTrick: I believe the file you may need to edit is /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic.  The values should be 0.
[05:27] <DarkTrick> harryguerrilla[m, They are "0"
[05:35] <harryguerrilla[m> DarkTrick: You may want to try disabling the apt-daily.service (sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service).
[05:38] <DarkTrick> harryguerrilla[m, I disabled it. I'll see if it has any effect. (btw. shouldn't that service get disabled, if I click the GUI?)
[05:44] <harryguerrilla[m> DarkTrick: That I'm not sure, but based on the settings you can choose, my guess would be that it does not disable the service.  It would  only change the frequency with which the system checks for updates.
[05:46] <DarkTrick> 👍️
[06:19] <ailion> What is accountsservice?
[06:19] <ailion> I found it on Ubuntu Server 20.04.1 by `ps aux | grep accounts`
[06:26] <andrea_p> Hi, after a recent update the X server won't start, I have an error "/dev/dri/card0: failed to et DRM interfvace version 1.4: permission denied"
[06:27] <andrea_p> and at the end: modeset(0) drmSetMaster failed: invalid argument
[06:27] <andrea_p> I'm using the amdgpu driver
[06:30] <andrea_p> I have the same error even if I do an X -configure and then try to start directly X as root with X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
[06:30] <ailion> andrea_p: on grub menu, select the previous kernel. that might work
[06:31] <andrea_p> ailion, I tried with a previous kernel
[06:33] <ailion> are you using something like bumblebee?
[06:33] <andrea_p> ailion, no luck, same error
[06:35] <andrea_p> i'm on an amd card; not sure if it's relevant but I'm using rocm
[06:40] <ailion> does your cpu have iGPU?
[06:40] <andrea_p> no
[06:48] <truexfan81> i don't suppose the package maintainer for libplacebo is in here?
[06:48] <truexfan81> need a newer version for ubuntu 20.04 1.7 is too old, need a minimum of 1.18
[06:51] <guiverc> truexfan81, there are MOTUs here yes, but they aren't likely to respond to anything here, as requests like that belong in bug-trackers (lp), and even then upgraded packages are now likely to go into next release (H most probably now; 1.29.1+dfsg1-2 is in groovy now)
[07:05] <truexfan81> well for those that jump from lts to lts thats 2 years away tho
[07:05] <guiverc> it's a universe package, so a member from the community can step in and do the work... we'd all love more people to step up and help
[07:30] <emilien> I'm trying to use a variable after "find" but "tar" won't play nice, what should I do? "find /home -name '*KEEP*' -exec tar -cvzf $TODAY_DATE $PWD \;"
[07:32] <emilien> this is the script to give an idea what I'm trying to do https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/YqFcHPn6bw/
[08:42] <apw> emilien, and what does it do and how does that differ from what you expect
[08:44] <apw> emilien, are you expecting $PWD to be the directory in which *KEEP* is found ?
[08:46] <apw> emilien, and are you expecting a tarball in each directory containing those KEEP files?
[08:46] <apw> emilien, if so then i suspect you really want "find /home -name '*KEEP*' -execdir tar -cvzf $TODAY_DATE . \;"
[08:49] <neure> hi
[09:01] <codebam> hey so I rebooted and it booted me to a tty for some reason. I must have accidentally removed some or all of the packages in the ubuntu-desktop
[09:01] <codebam> so I just reinstalled `ubuntu-desktop` right
[09:01] <codebam> but the problem I'm facing now is that it loads ubuntu gnome wayland, with no option to use xorg on the login screen
[09:02] <akemhp> I have this running on my system right now "14927 ?        S<Ls   0:48 /usr/bin/atop -R -w /var/log/atop/atop_20200909 600", isn't atop manually started? I mean i know i never started that since i booted, how comes i have this in my process list, any idea?
[09:02] <codebam> which is a problem because nvidia is garbage on wayland
[09:02] <codebam> how can I reinstall gnome xorg?
[09:02] <codebam> it doesn't seem to be part of ubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <codebam> what's the package name of ubuntu's gnome interface?
[09:04] <codebam> so I can install it
[09:05] <emilien> apw: I worked it out and used ; find . -name '*KEEP*' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cvzf  "/home/emilien/$TODAY" thanks
[09:08] <codebam> anyone? I'm stuck at a tty
[09:09] <akemhp> codebam, Do a clean reinstall from a liveUSB, it will be faster.
[09:10] <codebam> seriously?
[09:10] <codebam> if I'm reinstalling I'm not installing ubuntu that's for sure
[09:10] <akemhp> As you wish.
[09:11] <codebam> it shouldn't be this difficult. I've had easier experiences on arch
[09:11] <codebam> that's saying a lot
[09:11] <codebam> I just mean. there should be a way for me to fix it
[09:26] <Tuor> Hi, I got a lenovo p53 and I have issues with the nvidia card. I tried multiple drivers. The one closest to working was nvidia-driver-450. But i got some wired screen flickering... any idea wjat I could try?
[09:27] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 20.04 is using timesyncd and not ntp ... right!?
[09:29] <zetheroo> when I do 'systemctl status timesyncd' I get 'Unit timesyncd.service could not be found.'
[09:33] <kek_> hi so how do I tell ubuntu to use a specific keyboard layout but keep everything english?
[09:56] <kek_> sry dced
[10:13] <pigeta> hello
[10:17] <pigeta> my graphic card  only have resolution 1024x768 here un ubuntu but in windows i can set 1600x900
[10:17] <pigeta> how to fix here ?
[10:18] <pigeta> the graphic card is not new its a ati hd4350
[10:18] <pigeta> but still working
[10:21] <FManTropyx> you probably have to manually add the highest mode - I had to do it that way to get it to work on Ubuntu
[10:23] <pigeta> ok you know how?
[10:23] <FManTropyx> xrandr --newmode and then xrandr --addmode
[10:44] <raver> Hi, I've build the current biboumi 8.5 stable Version for Armbian (arm64) via checkinstall. is there a place I can Upload it in case anyone is interested?
[10:45] <daire> I am looking for a guide that covers 20.04.1 installation with full disk encryption, with encrypted swap supporting hibernaiton, and btrfs.
[10:45] <Greenfrog> > thanks EriC^^ seting at my laptop enjoying musak and irc, plus internet, thanks for your help
 you were patient and kind, thanks :)
 ok, i'm xbfrog :)
 on the new laptop :)
 ok well not new
 but revived
 well crud
[10:47] <daire> There is a guide on the wiki writted by Tj that covers some of what I need. In the guide Tj references support possibly being available here, does Tj come in here much?
[10:50] <Tonius> Hi! I use ubuntu 20.04.1 with pidgin from official repo. +pidgin-sipe. I need to connect with lync server. I add account protocol Office communicator, but have ssl error. What to do? Sorry for my broken english =)
[10:51] <Tonius> or exist some other method to use lync ?
[10:53] <hempman77> Hi everyone
[10:53] <hempman77> I can't connect to my hotspot phone or usb tethering
[10:54] <hempman77> I have network manager on xubuntu studio
[10:54] <hempman77> No connection in my xubuntu.
[10:54] <hempman77> I can't download or update my distro
[11:02] <pigeta> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/QhFFXTMSxm/ where is the mistake?
[11:03] <makara1> where can I ask a question about converting markdown2html. None of the tools I've seen can discover links and convert them, even though this is markdown default behaviour
[11:03] <guiverc> daire, I see Tj often, but I can't say how often (a search thru irclogs would probably tell you)
[11:06] <osse> Is there any docs on how the default sounds system works in Ubuntu, e.g. pulseaudio interacts with alsa? My USB headset is unreliable i Ubuntu. Sometimes I can choose it at as a output device and sometimes not. The last time I managed to fix it by fiddling with pavucontrol
[11:28] <summonner> makara1, try in #web?
[11:34] <daire> guiverc: thanks
[11:43] <hempman77> Hi my network manager don't work properly
[11:44] <hempman77> I don't have phone internet wifi or tethering in my xubuntu
[11:44] <hempman77> Can you help me please
[11:45] <summonner> hempman77, you should upgrade from Ubuntu 12 to at least 18
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:52] <makara1> summonner: thx
[11:52] <hempman77> Summonner I can't internet don't work
[11:53] <ElNomReal> But.. you're here?
[11:53] <summonner> hempman77, what have you tried? what do your logs say?
[11:54]  * summonner grins at ElNomReal 
[12:09] <hempman77> Summonner I can't copy past but I don't have ping to google.fr
[12:09] <hempman77> And when I write Ifdown wlo1 : unknown interface wlo1
[12:10] <hempman77> I don't have wifi connection (wlo1)
[12:12] <semitones> should this work? (bash) for i in *; echo "$i"
[12:25] <summonner> semitones,    for i in *; do echo $i; done
[12:26] <semitones> thanks, I just realized that too lol. bash scripting 101
[12:26] <summonner> hempman77, need more details. is this a new installation? is this a stable installation for a while and you recently updated? help me help you
[12:31] <hempman77> Summonner I restart my computer next day and it don't work
[12:31] <hempman77> Ifconfig said it work
[12:31] <hempman77> Lost connection
[12:32] <hempman77> And if I don't have apt get upgrade, how to connect for that ? Can I have apt upgrade offline ?
[12:32] <hempman77> I read some forum... But nothing
[12:34] <hempman77> Someone said me on the french forum use 8.8.8.8 for dns... But how to do that ? w to
[12:38] <hempman77> Re
[12:39] <hempman77> Back sorry
[12:39] <hempman77> No internet on my pc
[12:39] <hempman77> Maybe my distro is dead ?
[12:39] <submux> Does anyone know how I can contact Ubuntu package maintainers? liblvm-dev doesn't include the liblvm2 headers.. meaning lvm2app.h is missing for some reason
[12:40] <submux> specifically that's in ubuntu 20.04.. it was there in earlier versions
[12:56] <pizzaiolo> submux i'd guess the best way to address that would be to open a bug report
[12:57] <zakame> submux: I think that's been dropped, even Debian buster doesn't have that now, see also https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=blob;f=WHATS_NEW;h=1fffbb5d7c5b85daa206cdfa4fa9826afd6cba8a;hb=HEAD#l330
[12:58] <zakame> yep dropped in https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=commitdiff;h=27c647d6ce707326237771d3b046b6049161fb5a;hp=2a7f2a3a244dd02cacb947b19f7400b53dd71ca4
[12:59] <submux> Ugh... that's terribly inconvenient. I suppose I need an alternative :/
[13:00] <submux> Thanks though
[13:09] <asdfgh> hello i have having a strange problem with ubuntu 20.04 after i suspend it, chrome show lagged windows,
[13:09] <asdfgh> what could be the problem?
[13:11] <asdfgh> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1273399/problems-with-chrome-browser-after-suspend-the-computer-on-ubuntu-20-04
[13:11] <asdfgh> this ^
[13:14] <hempman77> How to reconfigure for factory reset my distro without reinstall and save my files ?
[13:15] <hempman77> Without iso installation of ubuntu ?
[13:15] <hempman77> I need to redownload that ?
[13:16] <hempman77> I transfer my files in another ssd?
[13:16] <hempman77> And for have reset ?
[13:16] <summonner> hempman77, type in ping 1.1.1.1
[13:17] <summonner> and use CTRL and c to break that when it's running for a little while. Do you get a response? or it says Destination Unreachable?
[13:17] <hempman77> Destination Unreachable
[13:18] <summonner> right so the problem is to do with your wifi or ethernet cable. which do you use?
[13:18] <hempman77> From 192.168.42.129 icmp_seq=2 Destination Net Unreachable
[13:19] <summonner> what's your machine's IP address?  if you type   ifconfig   it should tell you.... 192.168.?.?
[13:21] <summonner> hempman77, I have to leave in a few minutes. please hurry
[13:22] <hempman77> Inet 192.168.42.228
[13:22] <summonner> someone else can take over. if hempman77 has an ip address, and you can ping the router, the problem is the router and not ubuntu
[13:23] <hempman77> Interface usb0
[13:23] <summonner> then hempman77 should go into #networking for help
[13:23] <hempman77> Netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:24] <hempman77> Broadcast : 192.168.42.255
[13:24] <hempman77> Ha no
[13:24] <hempman77> To difficult for me, I try to reinstall the system
[13:25] <BluesKaj> reinstalling might not help
[13:26] <BluesKaj> have you checked your connections to the router?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> hempman77, ^
[13:27] <jarco5000> he could just be missing his default gateway
[13:27] <hempman77> It's my smartphone with usb tethering
[13:28] <jarco5000> Or if he is in usa tethering might be blocked
[13:29] <BluesKaj> doubt he's in the uS
[13:29] <BluesKaj> france
[13:30] <hempman77> Lmao
[13:31] <hempman77> Government do not authorize that
[13:31] <BluesKaj> authorize what ?
[13:31] <hempman77> Yeah Because they don't want to see me on computer
[13:32] <hempman77> And they cut internet on my pc sure
[13:32] <hempman77> Somebody watching me /_\
[13:33] <BluesKaj> bah
[13:34] <ses1984> what do people do to manage remote linux desktops connecting to a company vpn
[13:35] <ses1984> my company's security team wants to get rid of linux workstations because it's harder to manage them than mac
[13:37] <BluesKaj> think that's BS, macs are so proprietary your company will pay thru the nose for their services
[13:38] <ses1984> if we could find a way to pay the same amount of money to secure linux desktop endpoints, we probably would
[13:38] <ses1984> we are already paying through the nose to secure mac endpoints and we accept that as a cost of doing business
[13:40] <jpds> Are they complaining about the fact that they don't have a way of remotely managing the systems, or securing them?
[13:41] <ses1984> what's the difference, an unmanaged system isnt' secure. if a system is insecure how can you trust you're managing it?
[13:42] <jpds> Well, there's all sorts of tooling like Puppet/Landscape/etc to manage Linux systems
[14:32] <Gh0sta> Hey guys!
[14:33] <Gh0sta> hope everyone is having an amazing day
[14:38] <Adamlw> hi
[15:03] <xMeia> how you all doin? whats up
[15:25] <xMeia> my ncspot(spotify) is laggy, the audio, why?
[15:31] <summonner> ses1984, you can have tripwire and a whole host of monitors on a linux machine. Your IT team sounds like a bunch of point and click'ers
[15:31] <vlm> when using variables in bash,its only valid for bash and subshell of bash right?So if referring a variabel in some config file for a program that wouldnt work?
[15:31] <summonner> Linux is way more secure by default than mac or windows
[15:31] <jpds> summonner: Not necessarily
[15:32] <ElNomReal> Depends on the default I guess.
[15:34] <summonner> xMeia, what have you checked?
[15:35] <ricksanchez_> .
[15:36] <summonner> Any unpatched and unsecured system has holes by default, this is a given. I saw a CUPS vulnerability the other week/month. At least with Ubuntu, security patches are installed by default. Following a guide, say the NSA setup documents, will harden your default image (if they push images via pxe or however)
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[16:06] <Greenfrog> EriC^^ my hard drive is running
[16:07] <Greenfrog> "wonderfully" thanks :) woot
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> great to hear Greenfrog
[16:09] <Greenfrog> he did a great job helping me
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | ericus
[16:10] <Greenfrog> its Eric^^ give him two cookies :)
[16:10] <mikunos> hello guys I have just installed the latest Ubuntu in a NEW SSD HD but when I try to use the system I get the input output error message for every command (bash too). https://photos.app.goo.gl/VN5p9M5E4ax3QE338
[16:17] <mikunos> any idea?
[16:18] <akemhp> mikunos, It does boot up to the desktop GUI?
[16:18] <akemhp> Or you boot up in terminal mode?
[16:18] <mikunos> @akemhp yes I am using it
[16:19] <Maik> using what...?
[16:19] <mikunos> I am using the GUI
[16:19] <mikunos> but when I stress it up, the GUI freeze and the application are stucks
[16:20] <mikunos> I am testing the RAM too with the memtester tool
[16:20] <mikunos> but I don't understand why this happens
[16:20] <akemhp> mikunos, Sounds bad. I would try to boot on live USB and check the SSD drive.
[16:20] <mikunos> the SSD is brand new
[16:20] <akemhp> Run a fsck on it. Maybe smart i don't know what tool are used to check it really.
[16:21] <akemhp> mikunos, It may be faulty, or your file system is damaged.
[16:21] <mikunos> the OS has been just installed
[16:21] <mikunos> it is brand new too
[16:22] <mikunos> it seems to me a RAM issue but I am not sure
[16:22] <akemhp> mikunos, Try a fsck on /dev/sdaX where X is your root filesystem, but you need to do that from a live USB.
[16:23] <akemhp> I/O is not RAM afaik.
[16:23] <akemhp> But you can check RAM with testmem86 i think its called.
[16:23] <akemhp> Look it up on google.
[16:25] <akemhp> Or Duckduckgo if you prefer :P
[16:25] <mikunos> I am sure that the problem is NOT the SSD Drive
[16:26] <akemhp> You don't understand it mqy just be the filesystem...
[16:27] <akemhp> A fsck would repair it.
[16:29] <Greenfrog> yes do a file system check
[16:30] <Greenfrog> at least eliminate that
[16:33] <LiftLeft> sarnold, oerheks: I did apt-get install on the packages that it said weren't installed. apt-get install only got most of the way through the installation
[16:55] <pigeta> hello
[17:02] <Greenfrog> hello
[17:03] <Greenfrog> what are you expecting by saying "hello"?
[17:04] <Greenfrog> me? i'm just a noob
[17:04] <Greenfrog> well, crud its me ugh
[17:05] <kostkon> Drone
[17:05] <kostkon> ooops
[17:07] <elias_a> !ask
[17:26] <Nisse_> Hello! Running ubuntu server edition on my server, and I'm going to upgrade the hardware tomorrow. Do I need to re-install ubuntu for everything to work properly, or can I just boot on the same hdd again after I've replaced the parts?
[17:27] <compdoc> Nisse_, be a good idea to clone the drive first, but just boot it. should be ok
[17:28] <Nisse_> Cool! any recommended software for that, or can I just copy everything to an external drive?
[17:28] <compdoc> you might have to make some changes to configs to get it all working, but it might just work anyway
[17:28] <compdoc> Nisse_, clonezilla
[17:29] <Nisse_> compdoc: Thank you!
[17:29] <legreffier> unless you're planning weird stuff with the newer machine (ie. setting up a GPU...) you should be completely fine just booting on the newer box with the old HDD
[17:29] <Nisse_> I'm swapping out motherboard, ram and cpu
[17:30] <compdoc> what cpu is it?
[17:30] <Nisse_> ryzen 7 3700x
[17:30] <Nisse_> right now it's and amd apu from 2011
[17:30] <compdoc>  you should be on the latest version of ubuntu for that cpu
[17:31] <compdoc> I think they started suppoting it around version 18
[17:31] <Nisse_> I'm on Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS
[17:32] <Nisse_> So that should be fine
[17:34] <sta|ker> Hello, I have a Dell Precision 5520 and installed Ubuntu 19.04 on it. I'm currently having some issues with the keyboard. Sometimes is will double random characters, i.e. typing "This is a test" might give me "Thiis is a ttest". It also will not type some keys randomly on first "click", like I'd have to press "f" three times before it will appear (again, random keys). Also sometimes if I type quick enough, again "This is a test" I'll ge
[17:34] <sta|ker> t something like "Tshi is a Tset". I can't seem to find anything related to these three issues. Could this be a setting? Or maybe a driver issue?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> sta|ker: 19.04 is end of life, install a supported version from the topic please
[17:35] <sta|ker> oh, sorry, I didn't realize it was already EOL. I'll go ahead and upgrade the distro and get back if there is an issue. Thanks!
[17:36] <Zxce3> halo
[17:53] <pavlos> is there a way to distinguish packages that were installed by the user vs the system? dpkg --get-selections shows everything
[17:58] <oerheks> pavlos, apt-mark showmanual
[18:03] <oerheks> pavlos, excluding snaps of course
[18:04] <pavlos> oerheks: thx, dpkg gives me 2687 pkg, mark gives me 2040, I'll find the diff
[18:12] <sem2peie> good evening, are there any ubuntu developers present? (e.g. Seth Forshee)
[18:13] <oerheks> sem2peie, unlikely, his handle is sforshee on irc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SethForshee
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> sem2peie: for the ubuntu developers there is also #ubuntu-devel
[18:13] <oerheks> one is free to email, or write on mailinglists.
[18:14] <oerheks> yes, maybe that is the place they hang out, during officehours
[18:15] <sem2peie> Ah OK thanks
[18:34] <spiffdaddy> !info linux -generic
[18:35] <spiffdaddy> !info linux-headers-generic
[18:37] <oerheks> one can go wild on ubottu in PM too :-P
[18:38] <chx777> hi...i use ubuntu 20.04 and today i noticed that the categories in ubuntu software center disappeared...only the editor picks are shown...how to solve this issue pls?
[18:40] <oerheks> on the top panel, choose 'all' or go back button on the left?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> chx777: categories work here
[18:44] <oerheks> one can reset gnome-software by deleting ~/.cache/gnome-software, it will be recreated
[18:44] <chx777> it worked for me too till yesterday...but now are not there...
[18:45] <kenperkins> Hello! I have a brand new acer swift 3 (amd 4700u) with a fresh install of 20.04.1, the brightness does not appear to function; where do I start looking for issues?
[18:47] <tomreyn> kenperkinsis it fully updated, yet? have you tried a newer kernel version? does     journalctl -b | grep exp_hw_support    return anything?
[18:48] <oerheks> focal-proposed seems to work, see #19  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1877757
[18:49] <tomreyn> i didn'T read the bug report, but it says "Ice Lake core-i7", not "amd 4700u"
[18:51] <oerheks> oops
[18:53] <kenperkins> @tomreyn fully updated. have not changed kernel
[18:53] <kenperkins> `see modparam exp_hw_support`
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> kenperkins: could you share youd dmesg with the volunteers please?
[18:55] <tomreyn> kenperkins: so you may want !kernelparm     amdgpu.exp_hw_support=1
[18:55] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | kenperkins
[18:56] <tomreyn> opibaf PPA *may* also be desirable
[18:56] <tomreyn> * oibaf
[18:57] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[18:57] <tomreyn> (not supported here)
[18:58] <hempman77> Hi
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> welcome hempman77
[18:59] <hempman77> I don't have network on my computer can you help me ?
[18:59] <tomreyn> kenperkins: there's also linux-generic-hwe-20.04-edge if you want to try a newer kernel
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> hempman77: are you running ubuntu?
[18:59] <hempman77> Yes
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> hempman77: wifi or ethernet? just installed ubuntu?
[19:00] <hempman77> Usb tethering smartphone
[19:00] <hempman77> Yep ping 1.1.1.1 : destination net unreachable
[19:01] <hempman77> 5 packets : 0 received, 4 errors, 100% packet loss, time 4004ms
[19:03] <sarnold> 1.1.1.1 is a bad ip to test with, a lot of ISPs are broken and can't route it
[19:04] <sarnold> which might be the point of your testing, of course, but 8.8.8.8 or 9.9.9.9 is better for "does it kinda look like I'm probably online"
[19:06] <kenperkins> @lotuspsychje remind me the right way to share the dmesg?
[19:06] <hempman77> Sarnold same result
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> hempman77: can this help: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-mobile.html.en
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> kenperkins: dmesg in terminal and upload to pastebin, or use pastebinit
[19:08] <jpds> hempman77: Can you ping your default gateway? 'ip r' will show this
[19:08] <hempman77> Do not work lotuspsychje
[19:08] <kenperkins> https://termbin.com/8dgd
[19:09] <ktosiek> Hi! I have a pretty strange problem - after disconnecting from VPN my /etc/resolv.conf is unreadable. It correctly points to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf, but that file is owned by root and has mode 600
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> kenperkins: have you tryed booting with secureboot off to compare? secureboot can influence things in some cases
[19:10] <kenperkins> hmm, I have not, just installing first time today
[19:10] <kenperkins> can i safely disable secureboot without needing to change anything else in ubuntu?
[19:10] <sarnold> kenperkins: yes
[19:11] <hempman77> Jpds when I ping my local ip it work : 64 bytes from 192.168.42.129: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=2.36 ms
[19:11] <hempman77> Jpds but no internet ... On my phone I have internet
[19:12] <jpds> hempman77: Not your device's IP, your gateway IP
[19:13] <kenperkins> hm i don't appear to be able to disable secure boot
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> kenperkins: can you also check: sudo lshw -C video plz, see if graphics drivers are loaded correctly
[19:15] <tomreyn> kenperkins: i think you can be fine with just the kernel parameter, maybe the updated kernel, too. there's also a newer bios for this system than you have now, but the changelog looks unrelated:  https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/support-product/8263?b=1
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> hempman77: network card drivers loaded? sudo lshw -C network
[19:16] <kenperkins> oh I'm a dummy
[19:16] <kenperkins> you have to set a supervisor password to disable secure boot
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> depends on the machines brand kenperkins not so dumb
[19:18] <hempman77> Rndis ! I restart my phone becausd it's not on my desactivated app
[19:18] <hempman77> Brb
[19:20] <kenperkins> @lotuspsychje updated with no secure boot and the video above: https://termbin.com/fgx1
[19:20] <kenperkins> still does not work, looks like it's generic vga
[19:21] <kenperkins> actually i may be wrong there
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> kenperkins: drivers are down driver=...
[19:21] <kenperkins> this looks like smoking gun: [   31.402514] acer_wmi: Unknown function number - 4 - 0
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> kenperkins: proceed with the ideas tomreyn provided then
[19:22] <pavlos> ktosiek: perms for stub-resolv are 644
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> pavlos: did you find your dpkg trick
[19:24] <pavlos> lotuspsychje: not yet; got distracted with other tasks
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> pavlos: perhaps digging into the dpkg logs can help you find last comes and goes better?
[19:26] <pavlos> lotuspsychje: /var/log/apt/history* files do not distinguish user vs system install/updates
[19:26] <kenperkins> @tomreyn trying amdgpu.exp_hw_support=1 now
[19:28] <kenperkins> that resulted in different behavior for the UI brightness adjustment but no actual brightness change from the hardware
[19:29] <kenperkins> it did however add driver=amdgpu for lshw -C video in the configuration section
[19:31] <tomreyn> kenperkins: so the right video driver got loaded this time.
[19:31] <tomreyn> now you may also want acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:32] <kenperkins> is that another kernel param in grub?
[19:32] <tomreyn> yes
[19:32] <tomreyn> good luck, i'll bbl
[19:32] <kenperkins> :thumbsup: brb
[19:33] <kenperkins> I assume since the actual video driver got loaded I'll want that one to be permanent for sure?
[19:33] <tomreyn> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=254614&p=2 looks related, especially https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/amd-gfx/2020-May/049914.html
[19:34] <tomreyn> you can persist the experimental amdgpu graphics switch, or try whether the newer kernel works without it
[19:35] <kenperkins> no dice on the acpi_backlight vendor change
[19:51] <ktosiek> pavlos: that's what I'd expect, but in this specific situation they are not. Restarting systemd-resolved fixes it, but I don't know where to start debugging this problem.
[19:52] <ktosiek> I'll be going to sleep in a few minutes, but if you ping me I'll respond first thing in the morning :-)
[19:53] <pavlos> ktosiek: your vpn software, I assume, saves the current dns, issues a new nameserver for their service and when you disconnect, it resets the nameserver
[20:21] <bumblefuzzz> so, I just got done configuring a new ubuntu server
[20:21] <bumblefuzzz> I set it up for publickey access only
[20:21] <bumblefuzzz> logged in and out multipple times
[20:22] <bumblefuzzz> but now, out of nowhere I can't log on: permission denied (publickey)
[20:22] <bumblefuzzz> I have changed nothing
[20:22] <bumblefuzzz> I've done this twice
[20:22] <bumblefuzzz> I wiped and reinstalled ubuntu server a 2nd time and this has happened again
[20:22] <bumblefuzzz> I don't understand why, with no changes, I am getting locked out due to publickey access
[20:23] <bumblefuzzz> can anyone help?
[20:25] <bumblefuzzz> I logged back in locally, deleted my publickey, readded it, and it's still asking for a password
[20:26] <bumblefuzzz> permissions on ~/.ssh are drwxrwxr-x
[20:26] <bumblefuzzz> permissions on ~/.ssh/authorized_keys are -rw-rw-r--
[20:27] <bumblefuzzz> so, why is ubuntu, after 2 fresh installs, locking out SSH keys added to this file, when they worked previously??????
[20:30] <pavlos>  .ssh/ should be 700, authkeys should be 600
[20:31] <bumblefuzzz> what's the syntax?
[20:31] <bumblefuzzz> chmod something somethign
[20:34] <pavlos> chmod 600 .ssh/authorized_keys
[20:34] <bumblefuzzz> got it
[20:34] <bumblefuzzz> thank you
[20:34] <pavlos> chmod 700 ~/.ssh
[20:39] <pavlos> public keys (.pub) could be 644 but private keys (id_rsa) are 600
[20:43] <BarnabasDK> aka readble only to the owner
[20:44] <BarnabasDK> which makes sense
[20:44] <BarnabasDK> never open your keys (ssh or otherwise) to access outside your user account
[20:59] <oerheks> adding keys, restart ssh service..
[20:59] <oerheks> i would check the logs why you are logged out.
[21:00] <oerheks> ufw log, if you enabled that.
[21:14] <wolfram> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 18.04 Mate. I have a laptop with a Mini DisplayPort receptacle that I am trying to connect to an external DisplayPort monitor. The monitor's on-screen display maintains that a DP cable is not connected. I confirmed that it is physically connected.
[21:14] <wolfram> This laptop is a few years old and I have never used DP before. I am trying to check if Ubuntu recognises the DP port at all. However, 'sudo lshw' does not return anything. Is there perhaps another command I can run to check what ports, DP in particular, the system can recognise? Thank you.
[21:15] <sarnold> wolfram: perhaps xrandr?
[21:16] <sarnold> wolfram: does lspci show a graphics card to account for it?
[21:21] <oerheks> maybe you need to attach the monitor before boot.
[21:21] <oerheks> seen that before
[21:21] <wolfram> sarnold: There is "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)" but I am not sure what you mean by accounting for it?
[21:22] <wolfram> oerheks: Yes, I have seen it with I am not sure what, USB or HDMI, where the kernel would disable a port unused during power up, but here I already restarted it and checked in BIOS if there is anything about DP (nothing).
[21:23] <oerheks> some laptops have a FN key for internal/external/both screens
[21:24] <wolfram> sarnold: xrandr says "DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)" but I am not sure if it means the cable is disconnected or the port is disabled?
[21:24] <wolfram> oerheks: Interesting, I did not know it, I think this is not one of these, I have been using HDMI with an external display without any key combinations, but thanks :)
[21:25] <wolfram> sarnold: (I assume DP-1 means DisplayPort-1)
[21:27] <sarnold> wolfram: okay, cool, so at least it's mostly visible :)
[21:27] <sarnold> wolfram: try the 'connect and power on before boot' thing
[21:28] <wolfram> sarnold: Restarting in 3..2..1.. :)
[21:32] <wolfram> Hm, I do not have an IRC history file here and I do not remember your nickname, the person with whom I was chatting a moment ago.
[21:33] <wolfram> But restarting while ensuring the monitor is powered on did not help.
[21:34] <wolfram> The monitor displays a banner to the effect that "the computer is not sending any signals, try to move mouse or press any key", which intrigues me because maybe it does recognises that the cable is connected.
[21:34] <pavlos> wolfram: laptop make/model?
[21:35] <sarnold> wolfram: does xrandr still show nothing connected?
[21:35] <pavlos> wolfram: btw, sarnold was helping you
[21:36] <wolfram> pavlos: sarnold Thanks. The laptop is Dell Latitude E7240 and monitor is Dell U2415.
[21:42] <wolfram> sarnold: The last time I was doing something like that was around 2001, trying to connect a mouse to an Debian Woody or Potato, I cannot recall anymore, but it required some attention. If I read the webs correctly, and based on what you say, xrandr is the tool responsible for this kind of configuration?
[21:43] <wolfram> wolfram: Also, I think I never managed to connect that mouse but Mandrake recognised it immediately :)
[21:44] <sarnold> wolfram: hah, yeah, xinput devices are still annoying :)
[21:44] <sarnold> wolfram: hours spent with imwheel and so on..
[21:44] <sarnold> wolfram: anyway yes, xrandr is the command line interface to doing things like turning monitors on, off, placing them left of or right of each other, etc. there's probably a friendlier gui in your control panel
[21:47]  * jescis wishes Dell supported 20.04.1 LTS on his Inspiron 11 3180! :\ 
[21:47] <wolfram> sarnold: I am fine with the command line generally but this part of Linux is not my forte. Anyway, I know what to use so I will read up more on xrandr.
[21:47] <wolfram> jescis: In what way is it not supported?
[21:48] <jescis> wolfram: I'm using a generic not OEM kernel
[21:48] <sarnold> wolfram: here's two little scripts I wrote to switch which display to use https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RRbpHFTPZR/
[21:49] <wolfram> sarnold: Thanks again.
[21:51] <wolfram> sarnold: Per your script, if I turn off eDP-1 which appears to be the laptop's display, will that persist across reboots? I do not want to be left about without any display at all.
[21:52] <sarnold> wolfram: no, it only happens 'live', no persistent changes
[21:52] <wolfram> sarnold: Got it.
[22:54] <devslash> i downloaded ubuntu server . After i go through the steps of installation it starts to install and says "Sorry there was a problem with this installation" and takes me back to the main installation screen where you select your language
[22:55] <devslash> this is happening in Virtualbox 6
[22:56] <mason> devslash: There's a channel #ubuntu-server that might be of use. Anyway, check out the fourth virtual console to see if there's anything there to indicate what happened.
[22:56] <devslash> how much space does ubuntu server need
[22:58] <Doc-Saintly> Is there a way to copy the text from a dialog box? It's too small so I can't see the text, and it's not responding to keyboard resize events
[23:01] <sarnold> Doc-Saintly: it depends on the dialog box
[23:01] <sarnold> sadly not everything lets you select text :(
[23:02] <sarnold> devslash: you could use a ten gig root filesystem if you absolutely need but you'll be much happier with 20 gigs
[23:02] <devslash> ok just making sure
[23:02] <devslash> i allocated 30GB to the VM
[23:04] <Doc-Saintly> sarnold, - I see, thanks.
[23:04] <devslash> after the integrity check I see a message that there was an error found in 1 file
[23:04] <devslash> also
[23:04] <devslash> failed to start snap daemon and holds snappy daemon refresh
[23:05] <sarnold> devslash: I suggest checking dmesg on both guest and host
[23:05] <devslash> the host is windows
[23:06] <devslash> i think theres a problem with the iso
[23:07] <sarnold> that could be, you could double-check the sha256sum of the downloaded iso
[23:07] <devslash> no
[23:07] <devslash> but i downloaded it on 2 different machines
[23:07] <sarnold> my guess was aimed towards the disk failing, and returning garbage; probably windows event viewer can help there
[23:08] <devslash> i dont see anything in the windows log that relates to virtualbox
[23:10] <sarnold> how about hardware, disk, storage, filesystem?
[23:11] <devslash> what about it
[23:12] <sarnold> are there any errors for any of those categories?
[23:12] <devslash> in windows event viewer ?
[23:12] <sarnold> yeah
[23:12] <devslash> no
[23:12] <devslash> im using virtualbox. you do realize that right ?
[23:12] <sarnold> yes
[23:13] <sarnold> that's why I'm asking :)
[23:13] <devslash> my other vms work fine
[23:13] <sarnold> quite often problems aren't on the guest but on the ohst
[23:13] <devslash> this is an ubuntu specific issue
[23:13] <sarnold> eg dead drive sectors, etc
[23:13] <devslash> no i dont see any evidence of that
[23:14] <sarnold> that's good for you :) but does mean I'm out of ideas, hehe
[23:17] <devslash> the iso is messed up
[23:24] <backthen> is the Ubuntu terminal for Windows similar to a standard install of Ubuntu?
[23:26] <sarnold> backthen: there's two different flavours of it as I understand it, WSL 1 and WSL 2 .. I don't know much about the differences, and this blog post is probably not a great overview of the differences, but it might give you some threads to pull on to find out the differences https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-20-04-and-wsl-1/15291/4
[23:27] <sarnold> backthen: I've heard that eg systemd and apparmor don't work in them, and a bug report I've seen suggests cron doesn't work either. but a lot of tihngs do work
[23:30] <backthen> sarnold: thanks. I'm curious from the development point of view. I don't know if WSL is a translation layer similar to Cygwin. If it is, how much slower is to develop/build in a WSL environment compared to real install of Ubuntu