callmepkgooood morning00:22
pieq_Morning everyone02:00
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dufluHi pieq 03:10
pieqduflu, hey! :)03:15
pieqduflu, by any chance, would you know what exactly happens in a FreeDesktop-compatible DE when a user clicks in a link inside an application? For instance, when I click a URL in the terminal or in Telegram. What catches this, and how is it handled?03:16
pieqI'm trying to know if it's possible to know what program has provided the link03:16
duflupieq, not sure but my first guess is 'xdg-open'03:17
duflupieq, you probably can't find out who it came from unless it causes an app launch in which case you could look at the parent PID03:18
pieqtoo bad03:22
pieqI recently discovered this: https://www.choosyosx.com/ and I was wondering if it could be replicated on Linux03:23
duflupieq, that would be easy enough. Just write a choosy replacement tool/script and tell the system to open links with that. Perhaps make it your default browser03:25
duflu(Settings > Default Applications)03:27
pieqduflu, yes, but how would you do things like "if the link comes from Hexchat, open it in my Firefox work profile; if the link comes from Telegra, open it in my Firefox personal profile"03:53
RAOFThat's something that should be possible…03:54
duflupieq, just look at the parent process ID then04:10
jibelGood morning all04:45
jibeland again, my session restarted on its own. every morning04:59
jibelthis is really really annoying 04:59
jibelit seems that systemd restarts and brings the entire user session down04:59
dufluMorning jibel, no crash reports?05:10
dufluActually you might get crashes without crash reports, because bug 187006005:11
ubot5bug 1870060 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "systemd ProtectSystem/mount namespace makes apport fail (impact most of our default system services)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187006005:11
jibelduflu, no crash report05:14
jibelduflu, it's really a systemd restart05:16
jibelsept. 10 06:50:51 boedic systemd[1]: Reloading.05:16
jibel^ from the journal05:16
jibelthen there is this05:17
jibelsept. 10 06:50:51 boedic systemd[1]: /lib/systemd/system/dbus.service:12: Unit configured to use KillMode=none. This is unsafe, as it disables systemd's process lifecycle management for the service. Please update your service to use a safer KillMode=, such as 'mixed' or >05:17
jibeljust before the restart I've this message05:18
jibelsept. 10 06:50:47 boedic dbus-daemon[3023]: Unknown group "power" in message bus configuration file05:18
jibelsept. 10 06:50:47 boedic dbus-daemon[3023]: [system] Reloaded configuration05:18
jibeland that's all05:19
jibelThe workaround is to start working after 7AM05:22
pieqsalut jibel !05:52
jibelSalut pieq, ça va?06:08
pieqjibel, ça va ! The weather was getting "cooler" here, I had the hope summer was finally over, but today temperatures are on the rise again...06:12
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:32
oSoMoNhi luna_ 06:39
didrocksgood morning06:39
didrockshey oSoMoN, luna_ 06:39
oSoMoNsalut didrocks 06:46
dufluHi oSoMoN, luna_, didrocks 06:57
oSoMoNhey duflu 06:58
didrockshey duflu 06:58
marcustomlinsongood morning desktoppers07:31
dufluHey marcustomlinson 07:33
marcustomlinsonhey duflu07:33
didrockshey marcustomlinson 07:34
marcustomlinsonyo didrocks07:35
oSoMoNgood morning marcustomlinson 08:01
marcustomlinsonhi oSoMoN08:01
oSoMoNhey Laney 08:02
marcustomlinsono/ Laney08:04
seb128goood morning desktopers08:06
dufluHi seb128 08:07
marcustomlinsonmorning seb12808:07
oSoMoNsalut seb128 08:15
seb128hey duflu, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN , how are you today?08:16
oSoMoNdoing good, and you?08:16
dufluseb128, back to sinus-headache-land. But going well otherwise. You?08:16
seb128I'm alright, again awake since 6:30 though :/08:16
seb128well at least I already had time to deal with emails, backlog etc08:17
didrockshey seb128, want to have a contest? here it’s 3am and then 5am without going back to sleep :p08:17
seb128didrocks, it's a contest I'm happy to let you win *g*08:18
jibelI'd so much to sleep until 6:30 :D08:18
jibelmuch like*08:18
seb128salut jibel :-)08:18
seb128jibel, did you report your systemd issue or figure out why it was restarting? is that some cron job or something?08:19
seb128also reloading systemd shouldn't take down the session :-/08:19
seb128can you reproduce by doing a manual reload?08:19
Laneymoin oSoMoN marcustomlinson seb128 didrocks jibel 08:19
seb128hey Laney, wie gehts?08:20
jibelseb128, we are trying to understand what's going on08:20
didrocksmorning Laney 08:20
jibelHi Laney 08:20
seb128jibel, try asking rbalint maybe if he has a clue?08:20
didrocksthe closest seems to be https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1531608:20
seb128jibel, also if it happens reliably at 7am I would try to attach gdb to gdm before that and see if it's gdm going away taking your session down08:21
seb128didrocks, do you see the problem as well or is it only jibel?08:21
didrocksjibel only08:21
didrocksbut my machine is stopped at night08:21
seb128did you guys try to manual do the reload and see if that takes the session down the same way?08:22
didrockssame warnings, but not logout08:22
seb128not making easier to debug08:22
seb128I would attach gdb to gdm and wait for tomorrow08:22
seb128usually session closing is gnome-session or gdm going down08:23
didrocksand I think then, as we don’t clean up our systemd user session properly, login take back the old user session08:23
didrockstry to connect to old bus08:23
seb128unless it's something in the systemd user session machinery leading to closing the session...08:23
didrocksand then, everything is broken (hence no network, nothing)08:23
marcustomlinsonseb128: doing ok thanks, yep I’m usually up at 2, 4, and 6 alternating between my son coming in with stories and my daughter crying08:35
seb128marcustomlinson, lock the room of the oldest at night!08:37
seb128I don't mind much before waken up during the night (if it's not too often) as long as I can go back to sleep after, but one can dream right?08:38
marcustomlinsonWhat is a dream?08:39
marcustomlinsonoh yes I had those once ;)08:40
jibelseb128, it really looks like bug 187153808:41
ubot5bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187153808:41
seb128jibel, it's weird that it does daily on a fixed time for you though08:41
jibelit's the time I do my upgrades08:42
jibelthe common denominator is the upgrade not the time08:42
seb128ah ok, you said the workaround was to start working after 7am08:42
seb128so I though it was a on the clock system event08:42
seb128jibel, please try to gdb on gdm and maybe dbus-daemon and accountsservice, hopefully one of those crash and gdb can tell us which one and why...08:44
seb128jdstrand, hey, thanks for commenting on that apparmor/evince/exo issue. Is the salsa Vcs reference in debian/control still in use? It hasn't been updated for a while and is missing some uploads so I was wondering if you guys moved to another Vcs or if you just forgot to push your changes? 09:38
Laneythat dbus thing we looked at some time ago but didn't manage to reproduce it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/187153809:55
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Confirmed]09:55
Laneyit's probably a deadlock somewhere in dbus-daemon, the messages indicate that it stops responding to systemd09:56
Laneyall Type=dbus services fail09:56
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jdstrandseb128: if you are talking about the apparmor vcs, it is in use, but as you know can happen, others did uploads and we are out of date14:33
jdstrandseb128: I'm going to update salsa after we do a pending upload14:33
jdstrandseb128: normally I would do the evince upload for the apparmor fix in that bug. considering my (temporary) role change, would that be something you or your team could do?14:35
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hellsworthgood morning desktopers14:45
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 14:45
hellsworthhi there oSoMoN how are you tdoay?14:46
oSoMoNa bit tired, but doing good otherwise, you?14:46
* Laney stabs gtk reftests14:46
Laneyhi hellsworth 14:46
hellsworthyeah i'm pretty tired but coffee is helping :)14:47
hellsworthhey Laney I tried building lo 7 gcc 10 on my py 4 last night and it failed but i captured all of the output. no seg fault. the tail end of the output is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6hc5cpzs64/ but i could provide the whole log.. and the pi didn't run out of memory14:49
hellsworthi went back to the pi for trying to reproduce the seg fault because i'm having a hard time getting an arm64 device in canonistack (no hosts available) and even amd64 images were giving me problems (filed a ticket with IS)14:50
Laneymake[3]: *** No rule to make target '/home/heather/Projects/libreoffice/libreoffice/translations/source/af/readlicense_oo/docs.po', needed by '/home/heather/Projects/libreoffice/libreoffice/workdir/CustomTarget/readlicense_oo/readme/readme.xrm'.  Stop.14:54
Laneywas ist das14:54
hellsworthright but 1) not the segfault i was hoping for and 2) what do i even do with this14:56
hellsworthoh gosh the damn translations dir is empty14:57
hellsworthhmm ok perhaps if i manually extract the translations tarball...14:57
seb128hey hellsworth , how are you?14:58
seb128is there a libreoffice upload coming this week or next from G-serie?14:58
hellsworthhey seb128 i'm ok.. wishing i had a second pi4 for n-m snap work14:58
seb128(we need a rebuild for the new poppler soname, so trying to figure out if we do an upload for that or wait for something else coming)14:58
seb128that's probably something kenvandine should be able to sort out for you?14:59
Laneyhellsworth: how did you unpack the package?15:00
Laneydpkg-source -x <foo.dsc> should get that all set up right for you15:00
seb128jdstrand, hey, sure we can handle evince. And for the vcs fair enough, one of the archive upload was from you so I was wondering if the Vcs moved location and debian/control was outdated, I was mostly a bit surprise to see 0 change on apparmor sine april, I just though that the package was more active than that wrongly assumed the vcs must have moved15:00
hellsworthseb128: no, not likely another upload this week but we are working on 7.0.1. probably next week. 15:01
seb128hellsworth, ok, thanks, I will do a no change one for poppler15:01
* hellsworth makes mental note to sync with archive to grab that change then15:01
hellsworthLaney: I did pull-lp-source and then build with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc15:02
hellsworthand i believe dpkg-buildpackage calls dpkg-source already..15:03
Laneyso why wouldn't you get the translations?15:03
hellsworthgreat question15:03
jdstrandseb128: it's extremely active, wait til the next upload where we have apparmor 3 :)15:03
jdstrandwe've just not done much since focal15:03
jdstrand(in the archive)15:03
jdstrandbut that will change in the coming week or so15:03
seb128(brb, session restart)15:04
waveformhellsworth, I have some spare pi4s which I can rig up with serial access if you require for n-m snap work?15:05
hellsworthLaney: would running an armhf lxc container on amd64 work? i'd really like to free up this pi and it seems like arm64 instances on canonistack are just never available15:05
seb128jdstrand, thanks for the details, I will have a look to the evince changes upload15:06
hellsworthwaveform: ah wow.. yeah that might work.15:07
waveformhellsworth, just in a meeting at the moment, but if you shoot me an e-mail with what you want on there I can get it set up15:07
hellsworthwill do! thanks again!15:08
jdstrandseb128: thanks!15:11
Laneyhellsworth: no, the best you could do is use emulation to run a VM15:13
Laneywhat's the problem that you can't do both workloads on this pi? becomes too slow?15:14
hellsworthyeah LO takes all of the resources15:14
hellsworthand LO needs network, that i would be messing with15:14
hellsworthonce a build is going i just don't want to touch it and potentially ruin it15:15
hellsworthi could just launch another LO build (with translations unpacked this time) tonight15:15
Laneyhopefully it can resume15:16
Laneypass -nc15:16
Laneydpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc15:17
hellsworthmkay i'll unpack the translations myself and then build with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc tonight15:17
Laneync -> no clean15:18
hellsworthso you mean try this now?15:18
Laneyjust saying what nc means :p15:19
Laneyyou can decide that15:19
hellsworthok thanks15:20
oSoMoNseb128, have you seen my comment on https://trello.com/c/gkUYOoCh/14-gvfs-14592 ?15:36
oSoMoNthe gvfs-bin dependency needs to be removed from a bunch of meta packages15:36
oSoMoNshall I go ahead and prepare debdiffs/MRs for these?15:37
seb128right, I'm off tomorrow and just don't have time to deal with that those changes today :/15:37
seb128upload and it's going to block in proposed until the rdepends are sorted out15:37
oSoMoNI'll do that15:37
seb128if you want please do yes15:37
oSoMoNah, I can't upload gvfs either15:39
oSoMoNI can prepare and tag the release in salsa in the ubuntu branch though15:39
oSoMoNseb128, in case you or another core dev can do the upload15:40
oSoMoNI can also prepare a debdiff if that's easier15:43
seb128debdiff not needed15:45
hellsworthkenvandine: could you please run some autopkgtests for me? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vy2xwYzHfb/15:50
hellsworthseb128: actually, there will be a new libreoffice upload once ^^ those tests are complete and passing15:51
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: kenvandine's in a meeting, I can do it15:51
seb128hellsworth, k, I've uploaded the no change now though15:51
hellsworththanks marcustomlinson 15:51
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: done15:52
kenvandinethanks marcustomlinson 15:56
hellsworthsorry marcustomlinson i thought you were off this week... but that was last week :)16:12
marcustomlinsonI don't know what week it is either16:12
Laneyseb128: cancel it?16:14
seb128Laney, it's already uploaded16:36
seb128oh, by it you mean the builds? well, the new one isn't going to be uploaded before the test results of the ppa, that includes an armhf autopkgtest round16:37
seb128which might mean not before monday, I'm going to keep the head start and try to get poppler migrated before that if possible...16:37
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