| callmepk | gooood morning | 00:22 |
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| pieq_ | Morning everyone | 02:00 |
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| duflu | Hi pieq | 03:10 |
| pieq | duflu, hey! :) | 03:15 |
| pieq | duflu, by any chance, would you know what exactly happens in a FreeDesktop-compatible DE when a user clicks in a link inside an application? For instance, when I click a URL in the terminal or in Telegram. What catches this, and how is it handled? | 03:16 |
| pieq | I'm trying to know if it's possible to know what program has provided the link | 03:16 |
| duflu | pieq, not sure but my first guess is 'xdg-open' | 03:17 |
| duflu | pieq, you probably can't find out who it came from unless it causes an app launch in which case you could look at the parent PID | 03:18 |
| pieq | too bad | 03:22 |
| pieq | I recently discovered this: https://www.choosyosx.com/ and I was wondering if it could be replicated on Linux | 03:23 |
| duflu | pieq, that would be easy enough. Just write a choosy replacement tool/script and tell the system to open links with that. Perhaps make it your default browser | 03:25 |
| duflu | (Settings > Default Applications) | 03:27 |
| pieq | duflu, yes, but how would you do things like "if the link comes from Hexchat, open it in my Firefox work profile; if the link comes from Telegra, open it in my Firefox personal profile" | 03:53 |
| RAOF | That's something that should be possible… | 03:54 |
| duflu | pieq, just look at the parent process ID then | 04:10 |
| jibel | Good morning all | 04:45 |
| jibel | and again, my session restarted on its own. every morning | 04:59 |
| jibel | this is really really annoying | 04:59 |
| jibel | it seems that systemd restarts and brings the entire user session down | 04:59 |
| duflu | Morning jibel, no crash reports? | 05:10 |
| duflu | Actually you might get crashes without crash reports, because bug 1870060 | 05:11 |
| ubot5 | bug 1870060 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "systemd ProtectSystem/mount namespace makes apport fail (impact most of our default system services)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870060 | 05:11 |
| jibel | duflu, no crash report | 05:14 |
| jibel | duflu, it's really a systemd restart | 05:16 |
| jibel | sept. 10 06:50:51 boedic systemd[1]: Reloading. | 05:16 |
| jibel | ^ from the journal | 05:16 |
| jibel | then there is this | 05:17 |
| jibel | sept. 10 06:50:51 boedic systemd[1]: /lib/systemd/system/dbus.service:12: Unit configured to use KillMode=none. This is unsafe, as it disables systemd's process lifecycle management for the service. Please update your service to use a safer KillMode=, such as 'mixed' or > | 05:17 |
| jibel | just before the restart I've this message | 05:18 |
| jibel | sept. 10 06:50:47 boedic dbus-daemon[3023]: Unknown group "power" in message bus configuration file | 05:18 |
| jibel | sept. 10 06:50:47 boedic dbus-daemon[3023]: [system] Reloaded configuration | 05:18 |
| jibel | and that's all | 05:19 |
| jibel | The workaround is to start working after 7AM | 05:22 |
| duflu | :) | 05:44 |
| pieq | salut jibel ! | 05:52 |
| jibel | Salut pieq, ça va? | 06:08 |
| pieq | jibel, ça va ! The weather was getting "cooler" here, I had the hope summer was finally over, but today temperatures are on the rise again... | 06:12 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:32 |
| luna_ | hi | 06:32 |
| oSoMoN | hi luna_ | 06:39 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:39 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, luna_ | 06:39 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:46 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN, luna_, didrocks | 06:57 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:58 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 06:58 |
| marcustomlinson | good morning desktoppers | 07:31 |
| duflu | Hey marcustomlinson | 07:33 |
| marcustomlinson | hey duflu | 07:33 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 07:34 |
| marcustomlinson | yo didrocks | 07:35 |
| oSoMoN | good morning marcustomlinson | 08:01 |
| marcustomlinson | hi oSoMoN | 08:01 |
| Laney | \m/ | 08:02 |
| oSoMoN | hey Laney | 08:02 |
| marcustomlinson | o/ Laney | 08:04 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 08:06 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 08:07 |
| marcustomlinson | morning seb128 | 08:07 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 08:15 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN , how are you today? | 08:16 |
| oSoMoN | doing good, and you? | 08:16 |
| duflu | seb128, back to sinus-headache-land. But going well otherwise. You? | 08:16 |
| seb128 | :-( | 08:16 |
| seb128 | I'm alright, again awake since 6:30 though :/ | 08:16 |
| seb128 | well at least I already had time to deal with emails, backlog etc | 08:17 |
| didrocks | hey seb128, want to have a contest? here it’s 3am and then 5am without going back to sleep :p | 08:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's a contest I'm happy to let you win *g* | 08:18 |
| jibel | I'd so much to sleep until 6:30 :D | 08:18 |
| jibel | much like* | 08:18 |
| seb128 | salut jibel :-) | 08:18 |
| didrocks | heh | 08:19 |
| seb128 | jibel, did you report your systemd issue or figure out why it was restarting? is that some cron job or something? | 08:19 |
| seb128 | also reloading systemd shouldn't take down the session :-/ | 08:19 |
| seb128 | can you reproduce by doing a manual reload? | 08:19 |
| Laney | moin oSoMoN marcustomlinson seb128 didrocks jibel | 08:19 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, wie gehts? | 08:20 |
| jibel | seb128, we are trying to understand what's going on | 08:20 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 08:20 |
| jibel | Hi Laney | 08:20 |
| seb128 | jibel, try asking rbalint maybe if he has a clue? | 08:20 |
| didrocks | the closest seems to be https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/15316 | 08:20 |
| seb128 | jibel, also if it happens reliably at 7am I would try to attach gdb to gdm before that and see if it's gdm going away taking your session down | 08:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, do you see the problem as well or is it only jibel? | 08:21 |
| didrocks | jibel only | 08:21 |
| didrocks | but my machine is stopped at night | 08:21 |
| seb128 | did you guys try to manual do the reload and see if that takes the session down the same way? | 08:22 |
| didrocks | yep | 08:22 |
| didrocks | same warnings, but not logout | 08:22 |
| seb128 | :( | 08:22 |
| didrocks | no* | 08:22 |
| seb128 | not making easier to debug | 08:22 |
| didrocks | right | 08:22 |
| seb128 | I would attach gdb to gdm and wait for tomorrow | 08:22 |
| seb128 | usually session closing is gnome-session or gdm going down | 08:23 |
| didrocks | and I think then, as we don’t clean up our systemd user session properly, login take back the old user session | 08:23 |
| didrocks | try to connect to old bus | 08:23 |
| seb128 | unless it's something in the systemd user session machinery leading to closing the session... | 08:23 |
| didrocks | and then, everything is broken (hence no network, nothing) | 08:23 |
| seb128 | :( | 08:23 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: doing ok thanks, yep I’m usually up at 2, 4, and 6 alternating between my son coming in with stories and my daughter crying | 08:35 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, lock the room of the oldest at night! | 08:37 |
| seb128 | I don't mind much before waken up during the night (if it's not too often) as long as I can go back to sleep after, but one can dream right? | 08:38 |
| marcustomlinson | What is a dream? | 08:39 |
| marcustomlinson | oh yes I had those once ;) | 08:40 |
| jibel | seb128, it really looks like bug 1871538 | 08:41 |
| ubot5 | bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871538 | 08:41 |
| seb128 | jibel, it's weird that it does daily on a fixed time for you though | 08:41 |
| jibel | it's the time I do my upgrades | 08:42 |
| jibel | the common denominator is the upgrade not the time | 08:42 |
| seb128 | ah ok, you said the workaround was to start working after 7am | 08:42 |
| seb128 | so I though it was a on the clock system event | 08:42 |
| seb128 | jibel, please try to gdb on gdm and maybe dbus-daemon and accountsservice, hopefully one of those crash and gdb can tell us which one and why... | 08:44 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, hey, thanks for commenting on that apparmor/evince/exo issue. Is the salsa Vcs reference in debian/control still in use? It hasn't been updated for a while and is missing some uploads so I was wondering if you guys moved to another Vcs or if you just forgot to push your changes? | 09:38 |
| Laney | that dbus thing we looked at some time ago but didn't manage to reproduce it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/1871538 | 09:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Confirmed] | 09:55 |
| Laney | it's probably a deadlock somewhere in dbus-daemon, the messages indicate that it stops responding to systemd | 09:56 |
| Laney | all Type=dbus services fail | 09:56 |
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| jdstrand | seb128: if you are talking about the apparmor vcs, it is in use, but as you know can happen, others did uploads and we are out of date | 14:33 |
| jdstrand | seb128: I'm going to update salsa after we do a pending upload | 14:33 |
| jdstrand | seb128: normally I would do the evince upload for the apparmor fix in that bug. considering my (temporary) role change, would that be something you or your team could do? | 14:35 |
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| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 14:45 |
| oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth | 14:45 |
| hellsworth | hi there oSoMoN how are you tdoay? | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | a bit tired, but doing good otherwise, you? | 14:46 |
| * Laney stabs gtk reftests | 14:46 | |
| Laney | hi hellsworth | 14:46 |
| hellsworth | yeah i'm pretty tired but coffee is helping :) | 14:47 |
| hellsworth | hey Laney I tried building lo 7 gcc 10 on my py 4 last night and it failed but i captured all of the output. no seg fault. the tail end of the output is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6hc5cpzs64/ but i could provide the whole log.. and the pi didn't run out of memory | 14:49 |
| hellsworth | i went back to the pi for trying to reproduce the seg fault because i'm having a hard time getting an arm64 device in canonistack (no hosts available) and even amd64 images were giving me problems (filed a ticket with IS) | 14:50 |
| Laney | make[3]: *** No rule to make target '/home/heather/Projects/libreoffice/libreoffice/translations/source/af/readlicense_oo/docs.po', needed by '/home/heather/Projects/libreoffice/libreoffice/workdir/CustomTarget/readlicense_oo/readme/readme.xrm'. Stop. | 14:54 |
| Laney | was ist das | 14:54 |
| hellsworth | right but 1) not the segfault i was hoping for and 2) what do i even do with this | 14:56 |
| hellsworth | oh gosh the damn translations dir is empty | 14:57 |
| hellsworth | hmm ok perhaps if i manually extract the translations tarball... | 14:57 |
| seb128 | hey hellsworth , how are you? | 14:58 |
| seb128 | is there a libreoffice upload coming this week or next from G-serie? | 14:58 |
| hellsworth | hey seb128 i'm ok.. wishing i had a second pi4 for n-m snap work | 14:58 |
| seb128 | (we need a rebuild for the new poppler soname, so trying to figure out if we do an upload for that or wait for something else coming) | 14:58 |
| seb128 | that's probably something kenvandine should be able to sort out for you? | 14:59 |
| Laney | hellsworth: how did you unpack the package? | 15:00 |
| Laney | dpkg-source -x <foo.dsc> should get that all set up right for you | 15:00 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, hey, sure we can handle evince. And for the vcs fair enough, one of the archive upload was from you so I was wondering if the Vcs moved location and debian/control was outdated, I was mostly a bit surprise to see 0 change on apparmor sine april, I just though that the package was more active than that wrongly assumed the vcs must have moved | 15:00 |
| hellsworth | seb128: no, not likely another upload this week but we are working on 7.0.1. probably next week. | 15:01 |
| seb128 | hellsworth, ok, thanks, I will do a no change one for poppler | 15:01 |
| * hellsworth makes mental note to sync with archive to grab that change then | 15:01 | |
| hellsworth | Laney: I did pull-lp-source and then build with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc | 15:02 |
| hellsworth | and i believe dpkg-buildpackage calls dpkg-source already.. | 15:03 |
| Laney | yeah | 15:03 |
| Laney | so why wouldn't you get the translations? | 15:03 |
| hellsworth | great question | 15:03 |
| jdstrand | seb128: it's extremely active, wait til the next upload where we have apparmor 3 :) | 15:03 |
| jdstrand | we've just not done much since focal | 15:03 |
| jdstrand | (in the archive) | 15:03 |
| jdstrand | but that will change in the coming week or so | 15:03 |
| seb128 | ack | 15:04 |
| seb128 | (brb, session restart) | 15:04 |
| waveform | hellsworth, I have some spare pi4s which I can rig up with serial access if you require for n-m snap work? | 15:05 |
| hellsworth | Laney: would running an armhf lxc container on amd64 work? i'd really like to free up this pi and it seems like arm64 instances on canonistack are just never available | 15:05 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, thanks for the details, I will have a look to the evince changes upload | 15:06 |
| hellsworth | waveform: ah wow.. yeah that might work. | 15:07 |
| waveform | hellsworth, just in a meeting at the moment, but if you shoot me an e-mail with what you want on there I can get it set up | 15:07 |
| hellsworth | will do! thanks again! | 15:08 |
| jdstrand | seb128: thanks! | 15:11 |
| Laney | hellsworth: no, the best you could do is use emulation to run a VM | 15:13 |
| Laney | what's the problem that you can't do both workloads on this pi? becomes too slow? | 15:14 |
| hellsworth | yeah LO takes all of the resources | 15:14 |
| hellsworth | and LO needs network, that i would be messing with | 15:14 |
| hellsworth | once a build is going i just don't want to touch it and potentially ruin it | 15:15 |
| hellsworth | i could just launch another LO build (with translations unpacked this time) tonight | 15:15 |
| Laney | hopefully it can resume | 15:16 |
| Laney | pass -nc | 15:16 |
| Laney | dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc | 15:17 |
| hellsworth | mkay i'll unpack the translations myself and then build with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc tonight | 15:17 |
| Laney | nc -> no clean | 15:18 |
| hellsworth | so you mean try this now? | 15:18 |
| Laney | just saying what nc means :p | 15:19 |
| Laney | you can decide that | 15:19 |
| hellsworth | :) | 15:20 |
| hellsworth | ok thanks | 15:20 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, have you seen my comment on https://trello.com/c/gkUYOoCh/14-gvfs-14592 ? | 15:36 |
| oSoMoN | the gvfs-bin dependency needs to be removed from a bunch of meta packages | 15:36 |
| oSoMoN | shall I go ahead and prepare debdiffs/MRs for these? | 15:37 |
| seb128 | right, I'm off tomorrow and just don't have time to deal with that those changes today :/ | 15:37 |
| seb128 | upload and it's going to block in proposed until the rdepends are sorted out | 15:37 |
| oSoMoN | ack | 15:37 |
| oSoMoN | I'll do that | 15:37 |
| seb128 | if you want please do yes | 15:37 |
| seb128 | thx | 15:37 |
| oSoMoN | yw | 15:37 |
| oSoMoN | ah, I can't upload gvfs either | 15:39 |
| oSoMoN | I can prepare and tag the release in salsa in the ubuntu branch though | 15:39 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, in case you or another core dev can do the upload | 15:40 |
| seb128 | k | 15:40 |
| oSoMoN | I can also prepare a debdiff if that's easier | 15:43 |
| oSoMoN | https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gvfs/-/commits/ubuntu/master/ | 15:43 |
| seb128 | debdiff not needed | 15:45 |
| hellsworth | kenvandine: could you please run some autopkgtests for me? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vy2xwYzHfb/ | 15:50 |
| hellsworth | seb128: actually, there will be a new libreoffice upload once ^^ those tests are complete and passing | 15:51 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: kenvandine's in a meeting, I can do it | 15:51 |
| seb128 | hellsworth, k, I've uploaded the no change now though | 15:51 |
| hellsworth | ah.. | 15:51 |
| hellsworth | thanks marcustomlinson | 15:51 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: done | 15:52 |
| hellsworth | thanks! | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | thanks marcustomlinson | 15:56 |
| hellsworth | sorry marcustomlinson i thought you were off this week... but that was last week :) | 16:12 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 16:12 |
| marcustomlinson | I don't know what week it is either | 16:12 |
| hellsworth | :) | 16:12 |
| Laney | seb128: cancel it? | 16:14 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's already uploaded | 16:36 |
| seb128 | oh, by it you mean the builds? well, the new one isn't going to be uploaded before the test results of the ppa, that includes an armhf autopkgtest round | 16:37 |
| seb128 | which might mean not before monday, I'm going to keep the head start and try to get poppler migrated before that if possible... | 16:37 |
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