[00:58] <sharpninja> Hello.  I'm having a problem with 20.04.  My battery ran out today and after starting up it will not get beyond a black screen with mouse cursore and text cursor in top left.  I am using a live distro to try to get it working.  What do I need to do?
[01:00] <guiverc> sharpninja, I would `fsck` (file system check) your partitions, you can use kde partition manager, gparted or other tools if you prefer GUI tools to commands
[01:02] <Bashing-om> sharpninja: A loss of power often keaves the file system in an incinsusyent state. Were me I would run a file system check from the liveUSB on the target hard drive.
[01:02] <dabaR> You guys still here?
[01:02] <dabaR> !usbstick
[01:03] <sharpninja> both / and /boot check out ok
[01:04] <sharpninja> Maybe try switching display managers?  I have both gnome and kde installed
[01:04] <sharpninja> How do I do that?
[01:04] <Bashing-om> sharpninja: ^^ the CLI method is to know the target ' sudo fdisk -lu ' ;and then ' sudo fsck /dev/<target_partition> ".
[01:05] <dabaR60> Hi. I'm looking for a good set of instructions for installing onto a USB stick
[01:06] <dabaR60> Found it by asking the bot. Thanks!
[01:07] <Bashing-om> sharpninja: I expect the DE selection to be at the login screen - password - gear icon. under the icon should be a drop down with all the available desktops.
[01:07] <sharpninja> I'm not getting to the login screen
[01:09] <Bashing-om> sharpninja: Ouch - grub broken ? In the liveUSB boot menu is "Boot first hard drive" - what results in this attempt ?
[01:11] <sharpninja> Grub is not broken.  It boots with logo, then goes black with mouse cursor and the text cursor in top left
[01:12] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | sharpninja
[01:13] <sharpninja> Are there any temp files it would have saved during shutting down when running out of power?
[01:13] <sharpninja> It's been working fine for weeks.
[01:25] <sharpninja> is there a way to see all files modified today on a partition?
[01:31] <Bashing-om> sharpninja: One could do something like ' find ~/ -mmin -10 -type f ' once you ate booted into the install - else there is the full change root route.
[01:33] <Bashing-om> are*
[01:37] <Younder> puh! Got Ubuntu 20.04.1 desktop running on a rapberry pi 4. First installed the Ubuntu server 64 bit. The the ususal apt update/upgrade. Then sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop. Now it mostly works. Doeing a install of Intel openVINO to control the Neural Computer Stich 2. The standard install didn't work so I had com compile from git repo. Seems to be working fine so far 87% done..
[01:38] <sharpninja> I cannot get a terminal session.  I can see the bootup sequence, then it goes black and I cannot do anything from there.
[01:39] <Bashing-om> sharpninja: And if you unset Kernel Mode Setting with the "nomodeset" boot paramater; what results ?
[01:40] <Younder> sharpninja, I abit anemic on the detail. What kinda computer, what os version? server or desktop?
[01:46] <sharpninja> Ubuntu 20.04 on Acer Aspire R7 with Core i5 and 8GB RAM on 512MB SSD
[01:46] <sharpninja> "unset Kernel Mode Setting with the "nomodeset" boot paramater;" <-- How do I do that?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | sharpninja
[01:48] <sharpninja> I have no iea what you mean
[01:48] <Bashing-om> sharpninja: ^ calling the bot to respond. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters .
[01:49] <compdoc> you ever try just booting from the media without installing?
[01:49] <sharpninja> Yes, and it didn't fix it.
[01:49] <compdoc> but were you able to see the desktop?
[01:50] <compdoc> ot same thing
[01:50] <sharpninja> No, the desktop never appear, nor does the login screen
[01:50] <compdoc> google "nomodeset ubuntu"
[01:51] <compdoc> that has never worked for me, but it does for some
[01:51] <compdoc> in the bios of the  Acer Aspire, can you set the amount of ram for the onboard video?
[02:05] <sharpninja> https://1drv.ms/u/s!At7D0T4Uz1vyjMRM3a4nQ81WNIgthg
[02:05] <sharpninja> That is where it's hanging
[02:13] <pavlos> sharpninja: is network active on the pi? can you ssh to it and see what processes are running?
[02:14] <pavlos> sharpninja: you have Acer not pi, sorry
[02:14] <sharpninja> I am on my phone.
[02:33] <sharpninja> Ssh won't respond
[02:45] <Bashing-om> sharpninja: A thought - from grub's boot menu - what results in attempting to boot an older kernel ? or maybe booting a "recovery" kernel ?
[02:53] <blueingress> Hi, can I increase the number of kernel versions when a new kernel coming?
[02:54] <Bashing-om> blueingress: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[02:58] <blueingress> Bashing-om, I want to keep specified version of kernel, I am afraid when more new kernel were installed, THIS old version of kernel will be remove when triggered the "apt autoremove" command.
[02:59] <blueingress> by default the max number of kernel being kept is 3. how can I increase this number.
[02:59] <Bashing-om> !apt-mark
[03:02] <sarnold> blueingress: check out /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal -- iirc this file has references to all the other moving pieces
[03:02] <blueingress> Bashing-om, just mark the specified version? for example "linux-image-5.3.0-1034-generic"
[03:03] <Bashing-om> blueingress: "keep specified version of kernel" One could use "apt-mark hold <whatever>" . see in terminal ' man apt-mark ' .
[03:08] <blueingress> Bashing-om, thanks. I will try.
[03:18] <blueingress> sarnold, I saw /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels, the kernel which I want to keep currently is in the section "APT::NeverAutoRemove"
[03:19] <blueingress> sarnold, maybe this confi will be changed when there is new kernel arrive.
[03:19] <blueingress> anyway, I am trying the apt-mark.
[04:51] <dpreacher> which file is configured to select whether to launch the gui login manager or not?
[04:55] <yawa> dpreacher: init -modes, probably, can't remember which is which
[04:55] <yawa> unless that's an old way to do it
[04:57] <dpreacher> i was thinking there would be a .xinit file in my ~ but nothing like it
[04:57] <dpreacher> .xinitrc rather i think
[04:58] <yawa> look here; this might help you https://askubuntu.com/questions/900985/how-can-i-simply-change-into-a-text-mode-runlevel-under-systemd
[04:58] <yawa> 3 year old article but still. It mentions both .targets and inits
[05:04] <yawa> I doubt things in your home-folder will cancel out the automatic gui-login manager anyways
[05:04] <yawa> because it spawns before any regular user logs in
[05:11] <yawa> dpreacher: this might help too https://www.linuxbabe.com/command-line/systemd-services-run-levels-logs
[05:34] <yawa> dpreacher: ' sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target ' to lock your system into non-graphical login mode, and ' sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target ' to reset it to gui-login
[05:35] <yawa> it's all from https://www.linuxbabe.com/command-line/systemd-services-run-levels-logs
[05:36] <yawa> article is from 3rd of March 2020 so it should be current
[05:49] <Maik> yawa: the article has been "updated" on the 3rd of March but still shows a tutorial with screenshots from ubuntu 16.10 Yakkety. That has been almos four years ago now and the question is what exactly has been "updated" in that article.
[05:50] <yawa> ubuntu 15.04+ or whatever it says. Should be current, or else they'd insert caveats I'd think
[05:50] <yawa> 15.04 or later, so it should be good
[05:53] <Maik> i never rely on such articles and search for the most recent and official once that apply to the current system that is used. But that's just me. :)
[05:53] <yawa> yeah you do you
[05:58] <chl_> Probaly the wrong channel, but here goes anyway.. Has anyone worked with writing leases from a isc-dhcpd server to a database?
[06:01] <JeroenK> Question, what is happening here and can I prevent it next time? Not the first time this happens https://www.picpasteplus.com/temp/shrink/84ec31b769_shrink.jpeg
[06:02] <JeroenK> Sorry its dark, had the brightness low when I tried to do restart. Hoped Transmission would then quit too, but nope
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: is your bios up to date?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> a preboot brightness issue is kinda weird though
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> chl_: perhaps you could talk to the #ubuntu-server guys about isc
[06:11] <chl_> Could try, thanks!
[06:14] <JeroenK> Lotuspsychje, I dont think it managed to close off yet, stuck because transmission won't quit. So it looks like anyway
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: oh, im sorry i thought your issue was the brightness
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: is that a dedi transmission server or just using the client?
[06:15] <yawa> JeroenK: xkill Transmission's window
[06:18] <JeroenK> Had the bittorrent client on, wanted to close it, but it won't, I thought I did though. Pulled up system monitor to see what was happening, wouldn't close anymore, shut down everything else then tried restart. And now I got this screen
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: perhaps an idea, is to run transmission from a terminal next time
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: then see what it does, when you close the GUI, see if there are any errors
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: wich transmission version and ubuntu version by the way?
[06:19] <JeroenK> Ubuntu 20.04, dunno transmission, but installed 20.04 a few weeks ago
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !info transmission
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> should be this JeroenK
[06:22] <yawa> rtorrent is a good client, JeroenK
[06:24] <JeroenK> Well, transmission was meant to be temp anyway. I'm very used to utorrent, using that since 07. Still using 2.2.1
[06:24] <yawa> utorrent is cynicalized now
[06:24] <luna_> Deluge then
[06:25] <JeroenK> But yeah, I dunno what i see on screen, but its simply transmission which won't shut down?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: open a: journactl -f aswell, and hope for some errors
[06:29] <JeroenK> Already shut laptop down myself, now starting up again
[06:31] <JeroenK> And screw, gotta leave for work
[06:31] <summonner> I found qBitTorrent a much better replacement for uTorrent
[06:31] <luna_> summonner: or Deluge
[06:31] <JeroenK> Thx!
[06:31] <yawa> have a good day
[06:32] <yawa> luna_: yeah it's probably way more user friendly than rtorrent
[06:32] <yawa> people talk good things about it
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[06:37] <C0r3> Hello everyone. I was wondering if I can update some config for NetworkManager to stop it from wifi hopping. I have 2 bad wifi connections and my networkmanager keeps switching to the other wifi if the bitrate goes down. It's there a way to stop it?
[06:38] <yawa> change or forget the password for the wifi-unit you don't want it to connect to
[06:39] <yawa> then it won't succeed to connect
[06:39] <CQ> hello, my virtualbox is broken after the latest apt upgrade... I have the virtualbox.org repo in my apt source, but I thinkI may also have installed something from ubuntu that is conflicting. Any ideas how to see what is wrong?
[06:40] <C0r3> yawa: I want to use both as there are different providers. If one goes down then another.
[06:40] <CQ> it is saying the kernel modules don't match the version of virtualbox
[06:40] <C0r3> s/there/they're/
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> CQ: we dont support external repos, use the packages from the ubuntu repos instead
[06:42] <yawa> C0r3: I'd change the password by one arbitrary letter on the shunned device, and just change back on either ends once you want it to connect there
[06:43] <yawa> max out your WPA2 passwords dude
[06:43] <yawa> one letter 'wrong' is enough for it to "fail"
[06:44] <C0r3> yawa: So, there cannot be a config update on NetworkManager to stop it from wifi hopping?
[06:45] <yawa> just type one letter wrong in the saved password
[06:45] <yawa> and it won't succeed connectiong
[06:45] <yawa> connecting
[06:45] <yawa> and change back for those times you want it to connect
[06:45] <C0r3> And everytime I wish to connect, I'll have to update the password of both? This happens mutiple times a day!
[07:16] <chull> does Ubuntu have an equivalent of windows 'my computer' to see if it's seeing an external drive?
[07:17] <edoneerf> palimpsest, or, drive-manager or whatever it's called these days
[07:17] <chull> lshw gives me a lot more information
[07:18] <ktosiek> it looks like scripts provided with ppp save/restore the stub resolve.conf incorrectly, and they do that because they can't detect NetworkManager when used with network-manager-sstp. Where should I fill a bug?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> disk-tools
[07:18] <edoneerf> yeah
[07:18] <edoneerf> thanks I meant that
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> nautilus also sees mounted media
[07:18] <chull> ty
[07:19] <ktosiek> I think the broken script is from Debian, but maybe it's NM's fault for not providing a good "you are running under NM" environment variable?
[07:20] <ktosiek> oh this will be so much fun to fix
[07:23] <chull> My husband is trying to format a drive with a Ubuntu 20.04 DVD.  The first error was: the ext4 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI6 (0,0,0)(sdb) failed.  I suggested he start over, but when he tried, with the Ubuntu DVD in an external drive bay, he’s getting a black screen and white blinking cursor and nothing happens.  Today I'm trying to find out if the computer (with a different drive) can see that external bay. This doesn't make any sens
[07:23] <chull> e to my husband.  What can we do?
[07:25] <edoneerf> hm so you have tons of partitions on the drive? Or is sda5 just a container for all extended partitions?
[07:25] <edoneerf> I meant sdb not sda; in any case sdb is the full drive; given that it's the right one you'd want to work with/on
[07:26] <edoneerf> and don't work on that directly if you got tons of partitions there
[07:26] <edoneerf> gparted or something could be better
[07:27] <edoneerf> and knowing which partitions are what, and so on
[07:27] <dpreacher> thank you ... one who explained and is now offline so can not be nick autocompleted. but requirements are slightly different and my question still stands..
[07:27] <edoneerf> dpreacher: you mean how to log in ingraphically?
[07:29] <edoneerf> chull: sorry I forgot to mark your nick, but, be very careful with drives and partitions
[07:31] <dpreacher> edoneerf: i got the answer to log in to system in multi-user.target mode. but what is the equivalent of say putting ``exec /bin/<wm of choice`` in .xinitrc, such that startx reads that and launches it from the non graphical login?
[07:31] <edoneerf> first set the runlevel to 3, dpreacher then mix and mess with the initrcs
[07:31] <chull> edoneerf, yes that too. Shouldn't the computer say something if an external drive comes online?
[07:32] <edoneerf> chull: yeah either gparted or disk-tools for instance should show the drives and letters and etc
[07:33] <rajivmars> ubuntu 20.04.1
[07:34] <rajivmars> hi
[07:38] <edoneerf> chull: are you in a graphical ubuntu-environment? try typing ALT+F2 and type disk-tools in the field
[07:38] <edoneerf> then perhaps disk-tools comes up
[07:39] <edoneerf> or ctrl+alt+t and type disk-tools in the terminal
[07:41] <chull> $ disk-tools
[07:41] <chull> disk-tools: command not found
[07:41] <edoneerf> gnome-disk-tools ?
[07:41] <edoneerf> maybe that's the name
[07:41] <chull> ok ty
[07:42] <edoneerf> it was called palimpsest last time I had a graphical ubuntu thing
[07:42] <chull> looking just a min
[07:42] <edoneerf> wait chull
[07:43] <edoneerf> here in Arch Linux it's called gnome-disks
[07:43] <edoneerf> try typing gnome-disks
[07:45] <jp__> hy python3 pcapy doesnt install
[07:45] <jp__> https://pastebin.pl/view/9221947c
[07:46] <chull> edoneerf, lovely! that works and it does see it.
[07:46] <edoneerf> <3
[07:46] <chull> I guess we should shut this down and try again with the formatting etc.
[07:46] <edoneerf> be careful not to delete the wrong things
[07:47] <chull> right. That's a whole other hard drive, so we shouldn't have that problem. Thanks though, edoneerf :)
[07:47] <edoneerf> no problem good luch chull
[07:47] <edoneerf> luck
[07:49] <chull> Thanks!
[09:06] <Gh0sta> what is the best/safest way to use exe files on Ubuntu
[09:06] <luna_> with wine
[09:06] <Gh0sta> basically it's a game
[09:07] <Gh0sta> luna_: ah brilliant
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Gh0sta luna_ please dont repeat fictive issues every day the same..you solved this yesterday sort to say
[09:08] <Gh0sta> luna_:  thanks
[09:08] <luna_> lotuspsychje: sorry did not see it yesterday
[09:25] <rzgd> hello, on the ubuntu server installer from ubuntu-20.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso when installing with existing partitions keep getting: An error occured handling 'dmcrypt-data': ValueError - encryption key or keyfile must be specified - Traceback (most recent call last): File "/snap/subiquity/1966/lib/python3.6/site-packages/curtin/commands/main.py"
[09:25] <rzgd> , line 202, in main
[09:25] <rzgd> finish: cmd-install/stage-partitioning/builtin/cmd-block-meta: FAIL: configuring dm_crypt: dmcrypt-data
[09:35] <cupcake90> hi I have a system running ubuntu 14.04 getting this error using "start program" process (17781) terminated with status 1 , I am not able to understand what this means anyone
[09:36] <cupcake90> start program is the command
[09:37] <cupcake90> cctools work_queue_pool is the program
[09:45] <rzgd> i have a keyfile, but not sure how to pass it on the installer
[10:23] <rzgd> on the ubuntu server installer with pre-exiting and unlocker dm-crypt partitions, the installer is trying  to read keyfiles when not needed, and throws an error on block_meta.py line 1384, but being a preserved partition it shouldn't, error doesnt happen in the desktop version
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> rzgd: try #ubuntu-server if you like where the server experts are
[10:28] <hugh_marera> Hello. I am on Ubuntu 20.04. I updated firefox recently  to firefox  80 via apt but all my extensions no longer show up on the status bar. When i go to Addons the extensions appear to be switch on but they do not appear to be working. For example, webext-ublock-origin is not blocking the adds. However, if i manually turn the addons off and then  on, they will show on the status bar. If i reboot my system then they disappear again. Then i have to ma
[10:28] <hugh_marera> nually switch them off and on for them to start working again. Is there a way to resolve this problem? I have tried reinstalling firefox and the extensions as well as resetting firefox but with no joy. I am not on private browsing just regular use.  I am not signed into a firefox account.
[10:28] <rzgd> thanks
[10:30] <hugh_marera> the add ons have been working fine (i.e. without manual intervention) before the firefox update
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: according to the releasenotes FF 80 addons blocklist is enabled by default, could it be related? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/80.0/releasenotes/
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: i checked recent FF bugs on ubuntu, but didnt notice some other bugs related yet
[10:42] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: It seems all my extensions/addons won't show up not just ublock-origin (note that i have just two addons:  ublock origin  & privacy badger)?
[10:42] <np_complete> Hi Iam using 18.04, installed newer version of nvidia driver without purging current, glx not working. Even I purge all nvidia packages and reinstall the latest driver still have same issue. nvidia-settings does not open
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-cause-issues-are-on-blocklist
[10:42] <np_complete> nvidia-smi says I have latest driver
[10:43] <np_complete> "cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log" seems to show everything fine
[10:43] <np_complete> glxinfo | grep vendorserver glx vendor string: SGIclient glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGIOpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: wich driver version on wich chipset please
[10:44] <np_complete> purging and reinstalling drivers do not help
[10:44] <np_complete>  Driver Version: 440.95.01
[10:45] <np_complete> GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: pastebin your dmesg please
[10:47] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: but these two addons do not appear on the blocked list?
[10:47] <Mystified> hey guys, Virtual keyboard for touch screen, the gnome keyboard is limited how can I make florence keyboard default
[10:48] <Mystified> or at least be able to temporarily disable gnome keyboard to trial the florence keyboard. I'm not that technical
[10:48] <Mystified> thanks in  advance ! D
[10:49] <Mystified> btw running 20.04
[10:49] <np_complete> lotuspsychje https://pastebin.pl/view/b71ac8d2
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: are you getting a warning about them?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: that doesnt look like bionics current kernel, update your system please
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | np_complete
[10:52] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: no warning at all..
[10:52] <Mystified> also what about "apt dist-upgrade"
[10:52] <Mystified> also what about "apt install dist-upgrade"
[10:53] <np_complete> I have newer kernel installed but booting to older because it hase some module I need that can not re-build with newer kernel
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: whats an addon that doesnt work anymore please?
[10:53] <np_complete> but ok, I try to reboot the system with the newest kernel and see if that helps
[10:53] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: i think i noticed that after a reboot, they show on the status bar for a couple of seconds then disappear. When i go and check at the settings, it will show that they are enabled..
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic | np_complete
[10:55] <Mystified> hey guys, Virtual keyboard for touch screen, the gnome keyboard is limited how can I make florence keyboard default
[10:55] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: the two addons  not working are webext-ublock-origin and webext-privacy-badger both installed from apt
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: its a security flaw to keep using outdated kernels
[10:55] <Mystified> or at least be able to temporarily disable gnome keyboard to trial the florence keyboard. I'm not that technical
[10:55] <Mystified> or at least be able to temporarily disable gnome keyboard to trial the florence keyboard. I'm not that technical
[10:55] <Mystified> thanks in  advance ! D running 20.04
[10:55] <np_complete> lotuspsychje I try to reboot with latest kernel and see if that helps... brb
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: found a debian bug about it, now to see if we can find something ubuntu related, https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1761856.html
[10:58] <np_complete> lotuspsychje rebooting does not help
[10:58] <np_complete> I mean, to newest kernel
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: pastebin your dmesg + sudo lshw -C video please
[11:02] <np_complete> lotuspsychje https://pastebin.pl/view/7cf946ed
[11:03] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: it seems to be same bug..
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: allright mate, do you have time to file a new ubuntu bug?
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: weird, driver gets loaded, nvidia-modeset: Loading NVIDIA Kernel Mode Setting Driver for UNIX platforms  440.95.01  Thu May 28 07:04:22 UTC 2020
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: are you sure 435 doesnt work on -117 kernel?
[11:06] <np_complete> have not tried that one, why?
[11:06] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: will do so
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: please try, some cases there are bugs on the 440 version
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: ubuntu-bug packagename from terminal
[11:06] <np_complete> lotuspsychje ok will do
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: i found bug #1818549
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: can you confirm its the same bug?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> in this case they say its on chromium though
[11:13] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: i am using firefox  and do not have chromium/chrome installed. It is similar though
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: allright, maybe file a new one anyway, can be always duped afterwards then
[11:13] <hugh_marera> kul
[11:14] <np_complete> lotuspsychje with 435 same situation
[11:14] <np_complete> drivers is loaded, nvidia-smi shows correct
[11:14] <np_complete> however glx is not using nvidia
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: allright, lets go check nvidia-settings please
[11:14] <np_complete> does not open!
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: uh
[11:15] <np_complete> ERROR: Unable to load info from any available system
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: did you drivers work before on 18.04?
[11:16] <np_complete> yes
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: when did it start going wrong?
[11:16] <np_complete> after I installes 418 but ignored I needed to purge existing one first
[11:16] <np_complete> after I installed 418 but ignored I needed to purge existing one first
[11:17] <np_complete> now even I purge all nvidia and instal whatever driver I am in this situation, driver loaded, gpu-manager report seems correct, but glx is not using nvidia
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: does apt give you errors of any kind when you, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade?
[11:19] <np_complete> no errors, and nothing new to install
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> allright
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> soo.. mystery
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: did you try switching to nouveau yet?
[11:20] <np_complete> no
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: try that and go back to 435 please
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> both reboot
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: thanks for filing bug #1895129
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> nicely formulated
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: ive also installed them, can you please tell me the steps to reproduce?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:33] <luna_> hey
[11:37] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: not sure if they are reproducible. sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox webext-ublock-origin webext-privacy-badger to install/reinstall firefox and the add ons. Start firefox either from gui or terminal. First time, they showed up fine on the status bar and were working. Then after a computer reboot, they disappeared from the status bar. In the settings, they show they are still enabled but do not work as ads flood firefox...
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: allrighty lemme try that
[11:38] <hugh_marera> ok
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: starting from terminal made them both enabled, now a reboot would disable them?
[11:39] <np_complete> lotuspsychje after I switch to nouveau still same situation with glx
[11:39] <np_complete> server glx vendor string: SGIclient glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGIOpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: allrighty tnx for testing
[11:39] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: yes
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> np_complete: not really sure whats happening then, maybe an idea would be testing a liveusb, or installing !hwe for bionic
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: allright, lets c
[11:40] <np_complete> ok thanks
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: both seems enabled in settings, do they create an icon by default on the bar? i dont see any
[11:44] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: they do create icon on the top right corner of the bar
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: not for me so it seems, my other addons do
[11:45] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: now you can toggle them off and on  and they should show up
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: yep that made them join
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> ok reboot time
[11:46] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: at least that part appear reproducible! they should go again after reboot
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: confirmed after reboot they vanish
[11:48] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: ok. If you dont toggle them they will not block ads..
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: confirmed & updated your bug
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: thanks for finding this bug and make ubuntu better for you and the community
[11:51] <hugh_marera> lotuspsychje: fine
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> hugh_marera: now to await more users affected and/or the devs taking further action
[12:28] <LFlare> Hello, anyone using Ubuntu on an ASUS Zenbook UM425IA? I have certain queries about that notebook's lack of S3 suspend support.
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> !details | LFlare
[12:38] <LFlare> ASUS Zenbook UM425IA, running 20.04 with the latest mainline kernel. I'm having problems both with resuming from s2idle, and resuming from s3, with s3 being hacked together by editing the acpi tables.
[12:39] <LFlare> I'm not really sure what details are necessary, as from my own research, it appears that this laptop is super new and not many people have gone to work on it yet. Even the only other dude working on s3 support was on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/i28nm5/ideapad_14are05_s3_sleep_fix/g4hihug/?context=3
[12:39] <Intelo> Ubuntu 20 LTS has python 2.x? Seriously?
[12:39] <Intelo> $ python --version
[12:39] <Intelo> Python 2.7.18rc1
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !20.04 | Intelo
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> see the releasenotes for the official package versions Intelo
[12:42] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: It says 3.x is included but why I don't have it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Python3_by_default
[12:44] <daire> i am not being asked for my password when I resume from suspend - is there a way to fix this please?
[12:48] <mr_lou> How can I rename a file in a terminal that has silly signs which prevents me from renaming it?
[12:48] <mr_lou> "Operation not permitted"
[12:49] <mr_lou> lsattr: Permission denied While reading flags on ./sillyfilenamehere
[12:50] <Intelo> why don't I have python 3? https://termbin.com/vk28e
[12:50] <ElNomReal> mr_lou does file name in quotes work?
[12:52] <mr_lou> No, same error: Operation not permitted.
[12:52] <mr_lou> -rw-rw-rw-
[12:55] <Intelo> What the.... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WZWscBgyK8/
[13:22] <raver> Intelo, I used this Article (System wide): https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-change-from-default-to-alternative-python-version-on-debian-linux
[13:31] <Intelo> raver: thanks
[13:42] <raver> Intelo: np ✌️🙂
[13:56] <mr_lou> ElNomReal, I think I've found the solution: detox
[14:05] <mr_lou> I'm off. Later.
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ioria: if you remember bug #1894391 there's a new update #5
[14:14] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ho, yes, thanx lotus
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> np
[14:55] <goose> I've got an odroid-hc2 running ubuntu 18.04.5, and I'm having issues with it receiving a DHCP lease from my network. Could anyone confirm that this is the default /etc/network/interfaces which *should* be able to receive a DHCP lease from my router? - https://dpaste.com/86XLMEC3N
[14:59] <Lutin> are there more default environment variables I can set like PHP_INI_SCAN_DIR ?
[15:11] <jelly> is there a bot in here that can answer which versions of a named package are available in various still supported ubuntu releases?
[15:12] <jelly> like this, except for Ubuntu: <jelly> version nagstamon <judd> Package: nagstamon on amd64 -- jessie: 1.0.1-1; stretch: 2.0.1-5+deb9u1; buster: 3.2.1-1; bullseye: 3.4.1-1; sid: 3.4.1-1
[15:32] <mason> !info nagstamon
[15:33] <mason> hrm, just the one release noted - digging
[15:33] <mason> !info nagstamon bionic
[15:33] <mason> jelly: ^
[16:18] <wolfram> sarnold: I wanted to update you on my yesterday's DisplayPort question. In the end, I just went ahead with an HDMI connection and that will suffice.
[16:18] <wolfram> sarnold: Perhaps in 20.04 things will look different but I am fine with 18.04 for now.
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> tnx 4 the feedback wolfram we will pass the message
[16:24] <wolfram> lotuspsychje: Much obliged.
[16:28] <pavlos> wolfram: iirc, you have E7240, ubuntu 18, dual monitor (laptop, hdmi) works, right?
[16:30] <wolfram> pavlos: I only use the external monitor and it works now using HDMI instead of DisplayPort, yes.
[16:30] <wolfram> pavlos: Dual also worked I think but I just do not need it.
[16:30] <pavlos> wolfram: ok, glad you have a solution. I was trying to find out why the mini DP would not send video
[16:32] <wolfram> pavlos: Sounds similar, yes, I guess DP has higher throughput which matters for games or something but I am fine with HDMI for my needs.
[16:32] <wolfram> pavlos: I am fine with DVI in fact except that there are no such monitors in production now.
[16:37] <pavlos> wolfram: I have the DELL U2413 which has a bunch of connectors (DP,miniDP,DVI,HDMI)
[16:41] <wolfram> pavlos: Looks similar to mine except that I do not have DVI, instead I have some silly touch buttons instead of regular ones because this is so cool these days.
[16:41] <wolfram> pavlos: But yes, it works fine and I am in the process of adjusting to widescreen which I am using first time in my life.
[16:42]  * mbeierl has nvidia GeForce RTX 2060, with 1 dv->mini dp monitor, 1 hdmi monitor and one dvi monitor ...
[16:47] <wolfram> Do you not feel overwhelved by looking at three monitors at a time?
[16:51] <wolfram> And what about energy usage? Does it not consume a lot of it unnecessarily?
[16:53] <glick> hi, whats the german ubuntu offtopic channel?
[16:55] <oerheks> #ubuntu-de-offtopic ?
[17:11] <_alx_> anyone know what the lizard and seashell logos are? https://ibb.co/WxSvNVy
[17:12] <_alx_> right under duke
[17:21] <ioria> _alx_, maybe it's a Gecko  (not a lizard) and the seashell can be Nautilus (but i might be wrong)
[17:22] <Darkwar> hello how did you guys build your owen distro
[17:25] <oerheks> Darkwar, building your own distro is offtopic here, only ubuntu support.
[17:26] <mr_lou> What do to when files refuse to be renamed? mv and rename and even detox are helpless against these files. "Cannot rename", "Operation not permitted".
[17:26] <mr_lou> I dunno what to do.
[17:26] <Darkwar> oerheks where can i go to not be off topic?
[17:26] <oerheks> there is no 'renam, just mv.
[17:26] <Darkwar> well mr lou
[17:26] <Darkwar> type this
[17:26] <oerheks> !offtopic
[17:26] <Darkwar> sudo mv name name
[17:26] <oerheks> !alis
[17:27] <Darkwar> thank you oerheks
[17:28] <Darkwar> mr lous what file are u trying to rename
[17:28] <Darkwar> if its dir in /usr/bin i would not touch it unless needed or your moddifieing your owen script
[17:54] <snitzer> b
[18:20] <Younder> I installed Ubuntu Server on a RasPi4. The I installed sudo apt intsall ubuntu-desktop. All seemed well. But the screen is not fullHD. It is 1889x998 or something. Wins raspberry PI oOS it worked fine. It is not arspi monitor it is a HANNSpree monitor. Any ideas?
[18:23] <Younder> the EDID might  be the problem
[18:25] <Younder> pa the screen really is 1990x1440
[18:25] <oerheks> Younder, try to reset the monitor with its own menu to factory default, sometimes helps
[18:25] <Younder> sorry for te typos.
[18:25] <oerheks> and gnome3 on a pi4, impressive..
[18:26] <waveform> Younder, have you added "disable_overscan=1" to the /boot/firmware/config.txt ? Sounds like it may be applying overscan still
[18:27] <Younder> two ideas.. will try both
[18:35] <Younder> waveform, in /boot/firmware you should set userconfig.txt not config.txt, but otherwise spot on. It worked! Thank you.
[18:51] <Younder> oh by the way the server displays the entire bootup text. if that is tedious apply a -quiet -splash to the command line ing the grub setup
[19:00] <Younder> As an  embeded engeneer I loved the bit in the latest linux journal about locking the kernel. Apperently if your kernev is 5 or higher you kan prevent .ko or kernel drivers from being loaded afrer start.
[19:00] <compdoc> any word when do-release-upgrade will be ready?
[19:01] <Younder> compdoc, no, but it is in october wich is just a couple of weeks away
[19:02] <Younder> I would suspect 20 of october
[19:02] <pavlos> lotuspsychje: I found this one-liner that lists pkgs I installed ... comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[19:02] <pavlos> lotuspsychje: you asked me yesterday
[19:03] <compdoc> oh, ok. thanks
[19:03] <Younder> pavlos, you 'customers' must have infinate patience
[19:03] <pavlos> Younder: ??
[19:04] <Younder> pavlos, otherwise, nice one
[19:07] <Younder> Ever been tired of df having irrelevent gibberish meed dfu df uncluttered: df -h | grep -Ev '^/dev/loop|^tmpfs|^udev' | awk '{printf "%-10s %5s %5s %5s %5s\n", $6, $2, $3, $4, $5}'
[19:10] <Younder> Ever been tired of df giving irrelevant gibberish, meet dfu df uncluttered: df -h | grep -Ev '^/dev/loop|^tmpfs|^udev' | awk '{printf "%-10s %5s %5s %5s %5s\n", $6, $2, $3, $4, $5}'
[19:11] <Younder> All these loops snap adds levae df pretty much useless without it if you just want the diskspace remaing
[19:12] <Younder> remaining
[19:32] <strigga> ahoi. I have a ubuntu 20 docker host and since the last update, the process /snap/docker/471/bin/dockerd is in apparmor  enforce mode, thus the docker daemon does not start. Disabling the apparmor service temporarily did not help.
[19:32] <strigga> I admid I have no clue about apparmor :)
[19:41] <oerheks> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/docker-fails-with-permission-denied-inside-containers/17602/31
[19:41] <oerheks> is what i find ..
[19:42] <sarnold> strigga: what DENIED messages did you get in the logs?
[19:42] <strigga>  [ 1408.343255] audit: type=1400 audit(1599766954.445:133): apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" profile="snap.docker.dockerd" name="/bin/kmod" pid=8367 comm="containerd" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[19:43] <strigga> sarnold: !
[19:43] <sarnold> *kmod*?? what the heck is docker doing..
[19:44] <strigga> sarnold: no idea. :)
[19:44] <sarnold> hmm, there's a comment on that page from may 20 where a guy grep -v kmod, maybe that's a known stupidism
[19:45] <oerheks> on what filesystem, overlayfs or zfs?
[19:45] <strigga> oerkeks: how would I find out? The disk is ext.4
[19:49] <strigga> sarnold: how would I take that process out of enforce mode?
[19:51] <sarnold> strigga: well, if you really want to try that, you can find the apparmor profile name from /proc/pid/attr/current and as root run echo "profile <name here> { }" | apparmor_parser --remove
[19:51] <sarnold> strigga: you'd be better suited to go to #snapcraft and ask where you can report a bug :)
[19:54] <strigga> sarnold. Thanks. I really wonder, why this comes up all over sudden. Did a reboot after update and boom, docker stopped functioning.
[19:55] <sarnold> strigga: you could also try rolling back to a previous docker snap
[19:58] <strigga> sarnold: that tip (apparmor_parser --remove) did not make it through a reboot
[20:06] <sarnold> strigga: indeed, it only affects the running kernel
[20:07] <sarnold> strigga: snap is not going to make it easy to execute a strict mode application without seccomp, apparmor, etc
[20:07] <strigga> sarnold: Darn.
[20:07] <strigga> sarnold: I wonder why that came up in the first place.
[20:08] <strigga> sarnold: no process whitelisting possible?
[20:10] <sarnold> strigga: the idea is to let anyone upload apps like the ios app store or google play store, and probably the only way that'd be acceptable is if there's limits on what the applications can do
[20:11] <strigga> sarnold: Fair enough.
[20:27] <dtux> `ls somedir` gives me an I/O error... how do i get more info?
[20:28] <Younder> dmessg
[20:28] <sarnold> dtux: dmesg
[20:30] <Younder> like most logs mostly impenetrable
[20:30] <dtux> hmm i tried that but didnt see anything... let's try again
[20:30] <dtux> fwiw, this is not on a local drive
[20:30] <dtux> (it's on kbfs, mounted by keybase -- maybe i need to track down keybase logs)
[20:33] <sarnold> aha, yeah
[20:34] <Hejkki> What is the best command line email client that supports smtp over starttls and imap
[20:34] <Younder> tried cocpi. Ive always found that iluminating
[20:34] <Younder> cocpit
[20:35] <Hejkki> oh :)
[20:35] <sarnold> Hejkki: your options will expand if you use something like msmtp or postfix for sending email
[20:36] <sarnold> Hejkki: I use mutt with it's built-in imap support and msmtp for sending, it's probably a similar setup
[20:36] <Hejkki> ok, will try that, thanks :)
[20:40] <Younder> :9090/system
[20:40] <esperantoman> is fstab preserved across dist upgrades
[20:41] <Younder> seriously none of you know of cockpit?
[20:41] <Younder> It is like the coolest thing ever
[20:42] <Younder> https://cockpit-project.org/running
[20:46] <compdoc> what if I dont want to be discovered?
[20:48] <Younder> Want to steath way down. Then https://sourceforge.net/projects/robolinuxstealthvmforubuntu/
[20:48] <oerheks> !info cockpit
[20:57] <Luke2020> hi there is there a way i can create a unique name which points to a directory so instead of having to type out the full path i can type in a relative path from a defined name?
[20:58] <Luke2020> hi there is there a way i can create a unique name which points to a directory so instead of having to type out the full path i can type in a relative path from a defined name?
[20:58] <esperantoman> hi, is there a way to update the user-dirs.dirs without a logout or restart?
[20:58] <Younder> Luke2020, sure : ln -s <path> <fullpath>
[20:58] <Luke2020> thank you v much
[21:00] <oerheks> alias can do that, alias <name>='/path/to/folder'
[21:00] <Luke2020> which is better?
[21:01] <Younder> Luke2020, other way around <fullpath> <path>
[21:01] <oerheks> Younders answer would require to be in that folder, i guess.
[21:02] <sarnold> Luke2020: alias will work only in the shell; the symlink (or a bind mount) will work in all programs
[21:03] <Luke2020> okay and i can list out all my alias's and symlinks?
[21:03] <sarnold> symlinks you could see by ls -l
[21:03] <oerheks> stuff it in your .bashrc
[21:03] <sarnold> aliases you can see via alias
[21:04] <Luke2020> okay it just saves time :p thank you :]
[21:05] <Younder> oerheks, In a folder? what are you talikg about?
[21:07] <bray90820> So I am having an issue with ubuntu when I have two moniters conencted and ubuntu goes to sleep the screen goes black but the backlight stays on and mouse curser is still visable
[21:07] <bray90820> When I have one moniter tho it sleeps fine
[21:09] <Younder> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1073195/dual-monitor-setup-one-monitor-goes-to-sleep-the-other-doesnt
[21:10] <Younder> No I really shouln't use links
[21:10] <Younder> rotfl
[21:11] <rjwiii>  bray90820: Ubuntu version? GPU driver?
[21:12] <bray90820> 20.04 and the default AMD driver
[21:12] <Younder> Hardware can be BAD!
[21:13] <rjwiii> bray90820: excellent ... I had the same issue with 3 monitors & amdgpu ...
[21:13] <bray90820> rjwiii: : How did you fix it... if you ever did
[21:14] <johnjay> is there any difference in packaging a deb file for ubuntu compared to debian? they both use deb right
[21:14] <Younder> I have fried two Graphics cards and one motherboard.
[21:14] <rjwiii> bray90820: I did ... Try this: On  your monitor's settings, and turn off Auto Port Scanning ...
[21:14] <sarnold> johnjay: mostly similar, but ubuntu splits the repository into main vs universe; sometimes you'll have a choice of dependencies, and it's best to prefer dependencies that are in main
[21:15] <bray90820> YES it does scan the ports after teh monitor turns off and then it goes back to HDMI with the mouse I think you may be right
[21:15] <bray90820> I'll try that
[21:15] <johnjay> oh yeah the ubuntu repos do ahve different names
[21:16] <rjwiii> bray90820: What is happening is when Ubuntu tries to put the monitors to sleep, the monitors do a port scan to see if there is any other ports sending content. When Ubuntu sees this, it thinks that there is activity and wakes up the monitors ... it's an endless cycle ...
[21:16] <johnjay> sarnold: do you know is it possible for one deb to work on both at once?
[21:17] <rjwiii> bray90820: Once you disable the auto port scan, the monitors will go to sleep.
[21:18] <Younder> Duh! the auto port scan..
[21:19]  * Younder always feels like a dunce when the solution is reviled
[21:19] <rjwiii> bray90820: see here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109246
[21:20] <bray90820> Yeah it doesn'y look like I can actually turn it off in my monitor settings damnit
[21:21] <Younder> andgpu.cd=0
[21:21] <Younder> cd
[21:22] <bray90820> Younder: You talking to me?
[21:22] <Younder> I have no idea what mddgpu.dc=0 means
[21:23] <Younder> but I sugest you do
[21:23] <bray90820> I do not know
[21:25] <bray90820> rjwiii: I can not turn it off in my settings
[21:25] <bray90820> Anuthing else you know I can try?
[21:25] <rjwiii> Younder: I had this same problem on my new Thelio with 3 monitors using DP connections. Bugged the living $#|+ out of me ...
[21:27] <rjwiii> bray90820: in the settings on the monitors itself ...
[21:27] <bray90820> rjwiii: Yesh my monitor doesnt have a way to turn off the port scanning
[21:28] <rjwiii> bray90820: Odd ... What model are the monitors?
[21:29] <rjwiii> bray90820: it's gotta be in there somewhere ...
[21:30] <bray90820> Acer G7
[21:30] <Younder> I had a monitor problem earlier today. When it was solved on this group I thoughty i could rule the world. I was estatic.
[21:31] <bray90820> rjwiii: It's an Acer G7
[21:32]  * Younder is listening to nivana in the background
[21:34] <rjwiii> bray90820: Can you set the monitors to only one port, ie, the port you're using?
[21:34] <rjwiii> bray90820: some monitors may have an option to disable the scanning altogether and others my let you select the port to use ...
[21:34] <bray90820> Yeah but when it shut off it still scans all the ports
[21:36] <rjwiii> bray90820: Look for "Auto Source"
[21:36] <Younder> bray90820, Are you some sort of expert? How could you possibly know it it is scanning on all ports?
[21:37] <bray90820> Younder: Before it shut off it shows VGA then it shows DVI then HDMI then actually goes to sleep
[21:38] <Younder> aah
[21:38] <bray90820> The odd thing is it doesn't happen when onlt one monitor is connected
[21:38] <rjwiii> Younder: When monitors go to sleep, they often show on the screen the different ports it's checking. They do on my work computer ..
[21:41] <rjwiii> bray90820: This might help: https://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/Document/User%20Manual/User%20Manual_Acer_1.0_A_A.pdf?acerid=636391608474928693
[21:41] <bray90820> rjb: The moniter does have an iput setting and it's set to HDMI so i really don't know
[21:43] <rjwiii> bray90820: Does you menu look like the one in the link?
[21:43] <bray90820> Yes
[21:43] <bray90820> I am trying some things right now
[21:44] <rjwiii> s/you/your/
[21:55] <bray90820> rjwiii: Nope that manual you gavce me is very similar but the auto scan stuff it was talking about is not there
[21:56] <bray90820> I am seriously at a loss for what to do
[21:56] <rjwiii> bray90820: do you have the manual for your monitors?
[22:00] <rjwiii> bray90820: go to Acer's web site and find the manual for your monitor ... I see 6 Aspire models and one for Predator
[22:01] <rjwiii> bray90820: I searched for "g7"
[22:02] <rjwiii> bray90820: if not, your only option may be new monitors ... :(
[22:10] <rjwiii> bray90820: how old are these monitors?
[22:10] <Younder> rjwiii, seriosly!
[22:27] <bray90820> rjwiii: So I have done everything on the monitor itself and the setting isn't there
[22:38] <jwash> i have a runaway apt process, this is the result of hitting up --> enter a bunch of times rapidly https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FskrPwt4Rp/. see how the pid changes very frequently, how do i kill it without a restart?
[22:39] <sarnold> jwash: that process is already dead
[22:39] <sarnold> jwash: try running top or htop instead
[22:39] <jwash> ok
[22:40] <sarnold> the way bash works, it starts up the grep before it runs ps, so ps reports on it, and then grep selects itself because the 'apt' in the command line :)
[22:41] <jwash> funny
[22:41] <sarnold> some people use a little grep trick to search for a pattern that won't match on itself, but that always seems like too much work to me
[22:41] <pavlos> jwash: can you kill the ppid 14428
[22:41] <jwash> pavlos, it doesn't exist, so no
[22:42] <jwash> it disappears, it was only a quick name
[22:42] <sarnold> pavlos: that's the virtual set size of the process, *not* a process identifier
[22:43] <pavlos> sarnold: yes, my mistake
[23:32] <roger_roger> quick question please... have ubuntu desktop and it locked up - i rebooted and now my root password doesn't work... trying to boot to the brub menu but it ignores pressing and/or holding the shift key
[23:32] <roger_roger> any suggestions?
[23:33] <roger_roger> if i press the esc key, i get a cli scrolling past and then it just boots normally
[23:34] <sarnold> roger_roger: ubuntu doesn't usually have a root password; did you set one? where are you being asked for one?
[23:34] <roger_roger> if i open a terminal session and try to su
[23:35] <roger_roger> wait - just did sudo su and that worked
[23:35] <roger_roger> doh!
[23:35] <roger_roger> i'm so used to just using debian server for all my other stuff
[23:36] <sarnold> aha; you can set a password for root if you really want to, but that will cause systemd to request it when booting into a rescue shell, and you'd want to doublecheck that sshd is configured to forbid root password logins, etc
[23:37] <roger_roger> i'm good although concerned that i couldn't get to the grub menu
[23:37] <roger_roger> i even tried a keyboard that connects to the ps2 interface ut no go
[23:42] <sarnold> roger_roger: are you holding the left or the right shift key? iirc it requires the left shift key
[23:42] <roger_roger> left
[23:42] <sarnold> roger_roger: the ps/2 check .. good thinking. some bioses don't do usb .. but I hope that's rare these days :)
[23:42] <sarnold> bummer
[23:43] <roger_roger> yeah - i've run into that on  older machines but this one is relatively new... but tried it anyway
[23:50] <roger_roger> i was rebooting the pc - a friend suggested that i power it down and remove the power caord and then try
[23:52] <Kaedenn> How do I change the format of `apt search` to use one line per package to make it easier to grep?
[23:53] <bobdobbs> I've plugged a USB mic into my desktop, running ubuntu 18.04. I'm running KDE. How do I make sure my system uses this mic? It does show up in pavucontrol under input devices. But if I use Audacity to record input, the mic doesn't get used.
[23:54] <sarnold> Kaedenn: try apt-cache search instead
[23:55] <Kaedenn> Can I have that print the package status too?
[23:55] <sarnold> bobdobbs: does kmix exist? might it help?
[23:56] <sarnold> Kaedenn: not from apt-cache search; maybe dpkg-query? I don't use it very often, it might be able to do something similar
[23:56] <bobdobbs> sarnold: installing kmix now
[23:58] <bobdobbs> sarnold: is kmix supposed to be a gui?
[23:59] <bobdobbs> sarnold: like, if I run 'kmix' from the terminal, nothing happens. The command is accepted, and just hangs. As if it runs a program in the background or something.
[23:59] <sarnold> bobdobbs: I think so, it's got a lot of kde dependencies..
[23:59] <sarnold> hm :(
[23:59] <bobdobbs> maybe my whole audio system is busted or something