[08:55] Issue operator#402 opened: Allow way for harness to trigger upgrade-charm event [09:17] belated good morning, all [09:17] * Chipaca ← toothache :-( [09:18] Morning Chipaca [09:19] Clove oil applied topically can give temporary relief from the pain if brufen does not work. [09:24] ibuprofen seems to be helping [09:48] Is the "start" Charm hook only run after the *first* config-changed hook ? In other works the is the start hook, like the install hook run only once in the charm's lifecycle ? [09:48] s/works/words/ [09:54] facubatista: updated my MP with fixes as per your review [09:54] thanks ! [10:13] bthomas: https://discourse.juju.is/t/charm-hooks/1040 might be useful [10:14] I read that as saying yes, it's only run once in a unit's lifecycle [10:14] mthaddon: I am adpating that document for the purposes of creating documentation for the Operator Framework. [10:14] ack [10:14] mathaddon : thanks [14:13] off to the friday school run. wish me luck... [14:14] (first full week of 'normal' school! teachers are going to want to have a word) [14:17] * bthomas wishes Chipaca all the luck [14:35] bthomas the configmap problem you mentioned yesterday is the issue. Now everything works as expected. I'm not sure if I like my solution. Thoughts? off to the friday school run. wish me luck... [14:35] (first full week of 'normal' school! teachers are going to want to have a word) [14:35] * bthomas wishes Chipaca all the luck [14:35] Oops - I must have inadvertently copied the previous text.. Good luck Chipaca! haha [14:35] Here's the link: https://github.com/justinmclark/grafana-charm-base/blob/296d94229e9f209390eb6aba355824bd3349cb89/src/charm.py#L524 [14:36] justinclark: working is good. The rest we can talk to Chipaca, facundo and jam [14:40] justinclark: I had a quick look and can see you are using "pod_change_var". This is fine. But if you are unhappy with it you can always try adding a k8s label . For example a label such as "prometheus" with a value "associated" or "un-associated" or anything like that you find reasonable. What I am not sure is how k8s labels are set in Juju Pod spec. [14:41] * bthomas notes another thing (juju to k8s pod spec) to document or link into charmhub docs [14:41] I thought of using labels or annotations also but I didn't see clear documentation on whether that's something we can add in the Juju pod spec. I'll bring this up in standup and see if there are other ideas. [14:42] sounds like a plan