[00:12] <callmepk> good morning
[04:52] <jibel> Good morning
[05:16] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[05:28] <jibel> Hi duflu 
[05:36] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:45] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN 
[05:58] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[06:00] <didrocks> good morning
[06:05] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[06:28] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[06:36] <callmepk> morning/afternoon duflu jibel oSoMoN didrocks 
[06:41] <duflu> Afternoon callmepk 
[07:22] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk jibel duflu oSoMoN didrocks
[07:22] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:22] <callmepk> morning marcustomlinson 
[07:22] <didrocks> morninining :)
[07:48] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk, marcustomlinson 
[07:52] <Maik> KGB-2 what are you doing.....? ;-)
[07:54] <Maik> can't someone give him a temp ban? Flooding the channel with joining and leaving is getting a tad annoying
[08:00] <jamesh> Maik: it is a bot that prints package status updates.  Presumably it is flooding some other channel with a large set of updates
[08:02] <Maik> jamesh: oh, didn't know it was a bot. My bad. Thanks :)
[08:04] <Laney> greets
[08:05] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:06] <oSoMoN> sup Laney 
[08:10] <marcustomlinson> greetzzz Laney
[08:10] <marcustomlinson> hey jamesh
[08:10] <jamesh> hi marcustomlinson 
[08:11] <jamesh> marcustomlinson: re. that Ubuntu Core AccountsService card: it looks like it is more involved than I first thought
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[08:12] <marcustomlinson> jamesh: ah, like I won't be able to do it involved, or I need more info involved
[08:13] <jamesh> marcustomlinson: I'm sure you could do it.  But it isn't as simple as passing extra arguments to useradd/adduser, or even patching more of those utilities to be able to write to the extrausers databases
[08:15] <marcustomlinson> jamesh: alright, well it look like I'll be able to start looking at this from Wednesday, what ever extra info you can provide on the card will be super helpful. Otherwise I'll ping you if it doesn't make sense
[08:15] <jamesh> marcustomlinson: the problem is that as it stands, /var/lib/extrausers/group can only define the membership of groups defined in that file.  Group membership for /etc/group groups is in that read-only groups file
[08:17] <marcustomlinson> jamesh: ok, thanks for the heads up. I'll see what I can do
[08:18] <jamesh> marcustomlinson: the good(ish) news is that this seems to be a problem for people wanting to add users to the docker group on UC systems.  So there's more than just Desktop who are interested in finding a solution
[08:21] <Laney> moin didrocks oSoMoN marcustomlinson 
[08:21] <Laney> good weekends?
[08:23] <didrocks> busy building the kitchen (almost done) but good. You?
[08:25] <marcustomlinson> Laney: yeah relaxed, saw family, was nice. Yours's?
[08:27] <Laney> was good, saw some friends with their baby
[08:27] <Laney> nearly crawling now, and then it gets interesting :>
[08:27] <Laney> and then celebrated the start of a mini heatwave in the park
[08:27] <oSoMoN> Laney, very good, enjoyed the summer that's back after a rainy week, and got ready to start school again for my eldest
[08:28] <Laney> \o\
[08:29] <duflu> Hi Laney
[09:05] <luna_> hey
[10:37] <KGB-2> gnome-session pristine-tar 3b1ebcd Simon McVittie gnome-session_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-session_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-session_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3gq2I
[10:37] <KGB-2> gnome-session upstream/latest bcc27dc Simon McVittie * pushed 29 commits * https://deb.li/ix6GA
[10:37] <KGB-2> gnome-session tags c6df895 Simon McVittie upstream/3.38.0 * Upstream version 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/kE6y
[10:39] <Laney> .oh yeah
[10:39] <Laney> the good stuff is arriving
[10:39] <Laney> hey duflu!
[10:44] <jibel> mpt, I pushed an update following your comments to https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity-1/+merge/390662 and the redirection is in place. 
[10:44] <jibel> I'll merge it once it gets your approval, then we can do a release
[10:46] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon pristine-tar 3410174 Simon McVittie gnome-settings-daemon_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-settings-daemon_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-settings-daemon_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/Da81
[10:46] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest d477613 Simon McVittie * pushed 7 commits * https://deb.li/3LjtN
[10:46] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon tags cb3ff80 Simon McVittie upstream/3.38.0 * Upstream version 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/T66V
[11:21] <mpt> jibel, thanks, reviewed
[12:19] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility signed tags 750dba2 Iain Lane ubuntu/3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * gnome-disk-utility Debian release 3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3Wg4
[12:19] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master 0a4660c Iain Lane * pushed 37 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3OqID
[12:19] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master ce2ceda Jordan Petridis .gitlab-ci.yml * ci: remove deprecated jobs * https://deb.li/i3fUe
[12:19] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master 2cae5a5 Zander Brown po/en_GB.po * Update British English translation * https://deb.li/QUB7
[12:19] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master 4539c95 Jordan Petridis .gitlab-ci.yml * ci: port flatpak job to the template * https://deb.li/zPlj
[12:19] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master a625ac0 Kai Lüke INSTALL * Build/install readme: Fix old description of running UDisks * https://deb.li/3vaAR
[12:19] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master e92f1ba Kai Lüke INSTALL * Build/install readme: Fix typo * https://deb.li/hyxx
[14:59] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:59] <oSoMoN> morning hellsworth 
[15:00] <hellsworth> i there oSoMoN how are you?
[15:00] <oSoMoN> I'm good, I had a very good long week-end. How are you?
[15:01] <hellsworth> oh that's right! i'm glad to hear it was good :)
[15:02] <hellsworth> i'm good. i had a fun weekend too.. it was really nice outside and went hiking a lot :)
[15:22] <Laney> hey hellsworth 
[15:22] <hellsworth> hey Laney 
[15:22] <hellsworth> seeing your name reminds me to go check something :)
[15:24] <Laney> ah good
[15:24] <Laney> glad to remind people of work with my mere presence
[15:24] <Laney> oSoMoN: have you seen https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#gvfs (not the test failures, the other stuff)
[15:25] <Laney> pretty sure people should stop seeding that, and then it's like 3 packages to fix, seems worth it to do that?
[15:25] <oSoMoN> Laney, yes, I anticipated this when I prepared the upload, and we agreed with seb that I'd fix the seeds after uploading
[15:26] <oSoMoN> I'll go do that now, thanks for the reminder
[15:26] <Laney> k
[15:26] <Laney> I must have missed that discussion
[15:26] <Laney> or it happened somewhere I couldn't see it
[15:26] <Laney> but it's a bit more than the seeds
[15:27] <oSoMoN> Laney, https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/09/10/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t15:36
[15:28] <Laney> nod, thanks!
[15:28] <oSoMoN> and https://trello.com/c/gkUYOoCh/14-gvfs-14592#comment-5f593757927500336aae817d
[15:28] <Laney> one of the rdeps looks like it'll need some light patching
[15:29] <Laney> looked like 5 minutes ago and already forgot which one
[15:29] <Laney> gvfs-open -> gio open tho, trivial
[15:29] <oSoMoN> ack
[15:29] <Laney> (which is in libglib2.0-bin)
[15:39] <oSoMoN> Laney, do you reckon I need to replace gvfs-bin by libglib2.0-bin in all the desktop-* dependency lists in ubuntu-meta, or is it ok to simply remove gvfs-bin? (knowing that libglib2.0-bin will be pulled in anyway, as a dependency of e.g. gnome-shell)
[15:41] <Laney> oSoMoN: I'm not sure why gvfs-bin was seeded to be honest, does git blame shed any light?
[15:41] <Laney> my feeling is it's ok to drop it
[15:42] <oSoMoN> debian/changelog points to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/893056
[15:42] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 893056 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Precise) "on livecd xdg-open failed with: /usr/bin/xdg-open: 364: /usr/bin/xdg-open: gnome-open: not found" [High,Fix released]
[15:42] <Laney> ah it breaks xdg-open?
[15:42] <Laney> that's worth verifying, and I guess is a good argument for keeping it if so
[15:44] <oSoMoN> xdg-open does try "gio open" first, then falls back to gvfs-open
[15:44] <oSoMoN> but xdg-utils doesn't explicitly depend on libglib2.0-bin (it doesn't depend on anything, for that matter)
[15:45] <Laney> indeed, because it's supposed to work with various implementations
[15:45] <Laney> the 'system' is supposed to provide one
[15:47] <oSoMoN> yeah, so I guess the desktop-*recommends-* dep lists that have xdg-utils should also have libglib2.0-bin
[15:47] <Laney> suppose so
[15:47] <Laney> might be worth some text in the seeds saying that, for future explorers like us
[15:47] <oSoMoN> ack, I'll add a comment
[17:16] <KGB-1> orca signed tags 8ab0d8c Iain Lane ubuntu/3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * orca Debian release 3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/8LNl
[17:16] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 46dd1fc Iain Lane * pushed 1250 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3oNEI
[17:16] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master b27ae34 Attila Hammer help/hu/hu.po * Update Hungarian translation * https://deb.li/SNVj
[17:16] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 0cf1177 Emin Tufan Çetin po/tr.po * Update Turkish translation * https://deb.li/3zKlR
[17:16] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 3f50c93 Charles Monzat help/fr/fr.po * Update French translation * https://deb.li/33kgD
[17:16] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 95863b5 Daniel Mustieles po/es.po * Updated Spanish translation * https://deb.li/iOLIz
[17:17] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 9dc25d1 Daniel Mustieles help/es/es.po * Updated Spanish translation * https://deb.li/kN51
[17:17] <oSoMoN> Laney, it took me a while to figure out how to test this locally, but I finally managed… here is the seed update: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/+merge/390695
[17:19] <Laney> oSoMoN: thanks, will have a look tomorrow
[17:19] <oSoMoN> cheers