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[01:23] <callmepk> good morning
[02:52] <duflu> Oh hi callmepk  :)
[02:54] <callmepk> hey duflu 
[02:59] <jamesh> hi duflu, callmepk 
[03:00] <callmepk> hey jamesh 
[03:03] <duflu> Morning jamesh 
[04:35] <jibel> Good morning all
[05:18] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[05:43] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:48] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[05:50] <jibel> Hi duflu and oSoMoN 
[05:58] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, salut jibel 
[05:59] <didrocks> good morning
[06:07] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[06:26] <sentinel__> hello all
[06:33] <duflu> Morning didrocks, sentinel__ 
[07:04] <sentinel__> Top 'o the marning duflu
[07:24] <marcustomlinson> morning all
[07:26] <didrocks> hey UK early (UK late will be for Laney :p)
[07:26] <marcustomlinson> :)
[07:27] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:27] <marcustomlinson> morning didrocks and seb128
[07:28] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson and seb128 
[07:28] <marcustomlinson> seb128: please forgive me for not getting to vte+gt yet :/ I promise I'll carve out time this week for it
[07:32] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, duflu , how are you?
[07:33] <duflu> seb128, going well. You?
[07:33] <seb128> marcustomlinson, no worry, the positive aspect is that 38.0 is out and Debian did the updates already so you just need to do merges and no need to do the .9x and then .0 :-)
[07:33] <marcustomlinson> sprained my wrist playing with my son yesterday, so it's a bit ouchy on the keyboard today :( otherwise well
[07:33] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright, a bit tired
[07:34] <seb128> marcustomlinson, :-(
[07:37] <seb128> one day I will stop doing ctrl-shift-C in firefox and open the debugged when copying things between the browser and a command line
[07:50] <seb128> duflu, is the new bluez something we want in this cycle?
[07:50] <duflu> Ugh. I check for that almost every day but didn't today
[07:50] <seb128> (weird that they rolled a tarball but didn't post on their website about it)
[07:50] <seb128> according to version there is a tarball out for over a week
[07:51] <duflu> seb128, I can't think of any fixes we're waiting for so I would not risk it, probably. What's the URL?
[07:52]  * duflu finds it
[07:52] <seb128> duflu, https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/linux/bluetooth/
[07:53] <duflu> seb128, the changelog shows a lot more fixes than usual. So yes maybe.
[07:53] <duflu> I will have a stab at it this week
[07:54] <seb128> thanks
[07:55] <sentinel__> g'morning from chattanooga tennessee
[07:56] <duflu> Oh I have a graphical login screen on my Pi 4. Let me test that first
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[08:05] <Laney> sup
[08:05] <didrocks> hey later UK :)
[08:06] <Laney> was putting some spider plant babies outside in case anybody passing by wants a new house plant
[08:06] <Laney> those things know how to multiply
[08:07] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:08] <didrocks> oh right, those are really growing up quickly
[08:08] <seb128> hey Laney , how are you?
[08:09] <Laney> ah yes
[08:09] <Laney> hey didrocks duflu seb128!
[08:09] <Laney> doing alright thanks
[08:09] <Laney> you? good days off?
[08:10] <seb128> friday was nice, yesterday was just trying to go through the day after a 3 hours sleep and with noisy kids around
[08:11] <seb128> w.e was nice enough, it's warm and sunny and we had friends for lunch on sunday which was fun
[08:13] <Laney> nice, yeah the weekend was G R E A T
[08:13] <Laney> sorry about yesterday though
[08:13] <Laney> not a good use of vac days
[08:13] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:13] <jibel> mpt, hi, I updated the link on the error dialog and filed a PR to update the link. If there is nothing else, i'll merge it so we can do release before Thursday.
[08:14] <Laney> moin marcustomlinson 
[08:14] <Laney> what up
[08:23] <marcustomlinson> Laney: carrying on I guess. Wish school was more than just Thur and Fri, but hey better than none
[08:24] <marcustomlinson> Wed and Thur actually - kid-fried brain
[08:25] <callmepk> hey jibel oSoMoN didrocks marcustomlinson seb128 Laney 
[08:25] <seb128> hey callmepk, how are you?
[08:25] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk, marcustomlinson, seb128, Laney 
[08:25] <marcustomlinson> yo callmepk and oSoMoN
[08:25] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[08:26] <Laney> marcustomlinson: oh it is? not ideal :(
[08:26] <callmepk> seb128: great! I have submitted the Feature Freeze Exception request for wslu and sent you via the mail
[08:26] <Laney> moin callmepk moin oSoMoN 
[08:26] <oSoMoN> seb128, bien, et toi?
[08:27] <seb128> callmepk, I saw, I was off yesterday but I will try to have a look today
[08:27] <oSoMoN> second day of school for my eldest, and so far so good :)
[08:27] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça va, un peu fatigué et je dirais pas non à du calme mais on s'habitue :-) 
[08:27] <callmepk> seb128 nice and thanks!
[08:45] <Laney> oSoMoN: checking the gvfs thing now
[08:45] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[08:46] <Laney> ah yes, I should look at Gunnar's thing too
[08:56] <mpt> jibel, thanks, I see there’s some disagreement about the URL so I’ll follow up with Web team colleagues and get back to you ASAP
[09:17] <mpt> jibel, sorry I didn’t realize this before, but … The other two places where we have a redirect like this, we put it on help.ubuntu.com rather than ubuntu.com. So I guess help.ubuntu.com/activedirectory would be better.
[09:19] <jibel> mpt, okay, np, I'll change the link. not prefixed by https, correct?
[09:20] <mpt> jibel, right, not a complete URL because it’s something we want people to write down / photograph and visit later, rather than visiting now
[09:20] <jibel> understood, just wanted a confirmation
[09:23] <Mirv> oSoMoN: oh btw not sure if you've looked into backporting Thunderbird 78 yet, but I managed to do so with a couple of patches for focal and bionic at https://launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/+archive/ubuntu/thunderbird78/+packages - I've attached debdiffs to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1895643 to help you if you haven't looked at it at all yet
[09:23] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1895643 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Backport Thunderbird 78 to 20.04 LTS and 18.04 LTS" [Wishlist,New]
[09:24] <oSoMoN> hi Mirv, and thanks! I haven't worked on it yet, but it's on my to-do list
[09:26] <jibel> mpt, mp updated with help.u.c/...
[09:26] <seb128> there is also the snap that works on older series :-)
[09:29] <oSoMoN> yes, that's a much simpler way to get a brand new thunderbird on stable releases!
[09:29] <mpt> jibel, that was quick!
[09:34] <oSoMoN> thanks Laney 
[09:35] <oSoMoN> should I update ubuntu-meta now?
[09:35] <Laney> I'm doing it :>
[09:35] <Laney> are/did you handle the other seeds/packages?
[09:35] <oSoMoN> not yet, that's next on my list
[09:37] <Laney> nod
[09:37] <Trevinho> hi seb128 
[09:39] <Laney> bah
[09:39] <Laney> someone nearby is burning stuff
[09:40] <Laney> this is not a day to have the windows closed, also we have clothes drying outside >:(
[09:40] <Laney> hey Trevinho 
[09:40] <Trevinho> hi Laney!
[09:41] <oSoMoN> buon giorno Trevinho 
[09:42] <duflu> Morning Trevinho 
[09:42] <Trevinho> hola oSoMoN! Que tal en Cataluña?
[09:42] <Trevinho> hey duflu 
[09:42] <oSoMoN> all good, kids are back to school, and it feels good (while it lasts)
[09:59] <duflu> seb128, it seems to work with my devices in groovy. Done. bug 1895640
[09:59] <ubot5> bug 1895640 in bluez (Ubuntu) "BlueZ 5.55 release" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1895640
[10:00] <duflu> It also claims to be bug fixes only
[10:13] <jibel> Laney, can you do a release of Ubiquity on Groovy when you have time. There are 3 things in it: 1. Fix for xdg-open on Kubuntu 2. Removal of apt-clone 3. Active directory
[10:32] <seb128> Trevinho, hey! how are you?
[10:32] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, good, fighting with a weird unconsistent build failure, but good :)
[10:33] <seb128> Trevinho, did you seethat totem-pl-parser failed to build?
[10:34] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks for stepping up and doing GNOME updates outside of your usual stack btw, I really appreciate getting some help there!
[10:52] <luna_> Desktop Meeting this afternoon right?
[10:55] <Laney> jibel: sure, can look later
[10:55] <Laney> you have done the changelog?
[10:58] <Laney> luna_: yeah
[11:15] <jibel> Laney, IIRC xnox did something to generate it from git log?
[11:15] <jibel> I don't know how it works. Otherwise update it.
[11:57] <didrocks> the changelog generation doesn’t take the github co-autor-commit though!
[12:51] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, that was the annoying build thingy :)
[12:51] <Trevinho> seb128: and nw, I noticed there were some basic ones, so just went through
[12:53] <Trevinho> desktoppers: Laney has a tip that is be very useful for anyone that has to (git-)merge packages with debian and is sick with the changelog conflicts, so do that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/git#Automerging_changelogs (and beaware of the eopchs)
[12:54] <Trevinho> s/be//
[12:56] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks
[13:03] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center tags 02ae64e Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.38.0 * Upstream version 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/3xFaG
[13:04] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center pristine-tar 4a7bf12 Sebastien Bacher gnome-control-center_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-control-center_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-control-center_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3C3wM
[13:04] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/latest 06b5b33 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 14 commits * https://deb.li/syoy
[13:29] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[13:29] <kenvandine> good morning
[13:29] <luna_> good afternoon
[13:29] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth, kenvandine 
[13:30] <hellsworth> hi guys
[13:30] <seb128> ok, it's meeting time!
[13:30] <luna_> #startmeeting
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 15 13:30:59 2020 UTC.  The chair is luna_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <seb128> #endmeeting
[13:31] <luna_> #endmeeting
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[13:31] <seb128> luna_, could you #endmeeting please?
[13:31] <seb128> thanks
[13:31] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-09-15
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 15 13:31:29 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
[13:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:31] <marcustomlinson> \o
[13:31] <hellsworth> o/
[13:31] <luna_> o/
[13:31] <Trevinho> o/
[13:31] <callmepk> o/
[13:32] <jibel> \o
[13:32] <seb128> ok, enough people around, let's get started 
[13:32] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
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[13:33] <luna_> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html ?
[13:33] <oSoMoN> we lost the chair
[13:33] <Laney> lol
[13:33] <Laney> luna_: take over!
[13:33] <Laney> (joking)
[13:33] <kenvandine> o/
[13:33] <seb128> sorry, wrong time disconnect
[13:34] <luna_> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html i think right?
[13:34] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:34] <seb128> no desktop entry
[13:34] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:34] <seb128> only assigned items
[13:34] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
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[13:34] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:35] <seb128> those are assigned just need cleaning
[13:35] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:35] <seb128> bug #1892657	
[13:35] <ubot5> bug 1892657 in bolt (Ubuntu Focal) "boltd1719]: probing: timeout, done - timeouts every few seconds from boltd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892657
[13:36] <seb128> unsure if it's high priority enough but there is an understood patch and someone made a debdiff, I will handle and sponsor the change
[13:36] <seb128> and that's it for focal
[13:36] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
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[13:37] <seb128> bug #1881699 is back there
[13:37] <ubot5> bug 1881699 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "No analog output" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881699
[13:37] <seb128> the issue seems specific to that one config so I don't think it qualifies for rls
[13:37] <seb128> I vote -notfixing
[13:38] <luna_> works for me with my soundcard 
[13:38] <seb128> jibel, you should try to talk directly to Kai I think
[13:38] <seb128> other opinions?
[13:39] <didrocks999> (annoying disconnections…)
[13:39] <seb128> k, no opinion, I tagged notifixing and moving on
[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:39] <jibel> seb128, it may be fixed in 5.9
[13:40] <seb128> would be nice!
[13:40] <seb128> the items there as assigned
[13:40] <Laney> sounds good to me, I think jibel can track it with KHF
[13:40] <jibel> so waiting for a new kernel, it's something about the pins of the card
[13:40] <Laney> notfixing indeed
[13:40] <seb128> if we are confident it's the kernel we should probably invalid the pulseaudio side
[13:40] <seb128> anyway, moving on to the next section, thanks for the details!
[13:40] <jibel> in the mean time I bought a usb sound card
[13:41] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
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[13:41] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:41] <seb128> dnsmasq still, that's waiting on the server team to upload a fix now if I followed correctly
[13:41] <Laney> yeah, Heather can poke them if needed
[13:41] <hellsworth> that's as i understand it too
[13:42] <seb128> gstreamer needs merges that Locutusofborg said he would do today or tomorrow
[13:42] <seb128> stack of i386 issues due to the new glibc
[13:42] <hellsworth> ok yes i'll go poke the server team :)
[13:42] <seb128> poppler should we fine one libreoffice on arm is done with the autopkgtest
[13:43] <seb128> and I think that's it
[13:43] <seb128> #topic AOB
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[13:43] <seb128> GNOME 3.38.0 is out, updates are being worked on, as usual if you want to help please do, https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338
[13:43] <seb128> anything else?
[13:44] <luna_> maybe someone should update the topic with .38 ?
[13:44] <Trevinho> all good here
[13:44] <didrocks999> nothing here, just annoying that the MIR meeting is now after the desktop team one and so, I can’t relay immediately if there is any issue (well, there is still the c-m issue with gnome-software and the subscription for the -fonts stuff)
[13:44] <Laney> luna_: do it, the topic is not locked
[13:44] <Laney> well maybe after #endmeeting or it might get reverted
[13:44] <luna_> alright will do 
[13:45] <Laney> didrocks999: did anyone commit the change I suggested for the gnome-software thing?
[13:45] <Laney> if not, I guess that's an AOB item for someone to take that task :>
[13:45] <didrocks999> Laney: I don’t think so, volonteering as you came up with fix ? :)
[13:46] <Laney> spreading the seed knowledge
[13:46] <kenvandine> speaking of... i'd appreciate some testing of snap-store from the beta channel
[13:46] <didrocks999> sounds like a not, I will reread the discussion and do it then
[13:46] <kenvandine> on focal and groovy
[13:46] <Laney> actually would be good if someone *new* to seeds took the task rather than me or didrocks999 
[13:46] <kenvandine> specifically looking at firmware updates and ensuring apt package search and install works
[13:47] <seb128> right, any taker to learn about seeds and do the change Laney suggested?
[13:47] <oSoMoN> seb128, can do
[13:47] <luna_> kenvandine: can try to help you with that, if you give me some directions
[13:47] <Laney> I'll find the log reference, one minute
[13:47] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[13:47] <didrocks999> I have it
[13:48] <oSoMoN> can you point me to the conversation for some background?
[13:48] <didrocks999> just need to find the remote url
[13:48] <Laney> ah great
[13:48] <didrocks999> will paste post-meeting
[13:48] <oSoMoN> ack
[13:48] <seb128> ok,  let's wrap and we can keep discussing post meeting
[13:48] <seb128> #endmeeting
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[13:49] <Laney> merci
[13:49] <luna_> do you wanna keep the 3.36 in the topic aswell ? or should it just be changed to 3.38 ?
[13:49] <didrocks999> thanks!
[13:49] <Laney> 3.38
[13:49] <luna_> alright
[13:49] <Laney> is that link even right?
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[13:49] <Laney> it should be https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 now
[13:49] <didrocks999> oSoMoN: the start of the discussion, background, what we tried is at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/09/09/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t08:57, Laney’s suggestion is https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/09/09/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t13:15
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[13:49] <kenvandine> luna_: killall snap-store && snap refresh --beta snap-store 
[13:49] <luna_> fixed :) 
[13:49] <seb128> luna_, thanks!
[13:49] <Laney> not quite :p
[13:50] <kenvandine> then launch snap-store and browse around and if you have firmware that is updatable ensure it's listed under updates
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[13:50] <didrocks999> (and no, don’t worry, we didn’t talk about it for 4h30 :p)
[13:50] <didrocks999> just that lunch was a good advisor for Laney :)
[13:51] <oSoMoN> lunch always helps
[13:51] <didrocks999> oSoMoN: happy to review/merge and we can then check c-m after a seed
[13:51] <didrocks999> germination*
[13:51] <oSoMoN> ok, I'll take a look at that shortly
[13:51] <didrocks999> thx!
[13:52] <luna_> kenvandine: got it installed now and could launch it but not install anything as i did not launch it as a root i think?
[13:52] <kenvandine> doesn't need root
[13:52] <kenvandine> luna_: what happened?
[13:53] <luna_> kenvandine: tried installing gwenview but said i did not have rights
[13:53] <luna_> https://i.imgur.com/OnJXsII.png
[13:54] <kenvandine> you should get a polkit dialog for auth
[13:54] <luna_> also sorry for Swedish
[13:54] <luna_> maybe it does not show it when running awesome as a wm :p
[13:55] <kenvandine> might not
[13:55] <hellsworth> Laney: seb128 I've ping'd server team on dnsmasq and will see what they say..
[13:55] <luna_> could restart into gnome and try 
[13:55] <luna_> brb
[13:56] <seb128> hellsworth, thanks!
[13:56] <hellsworth> np
[13:57] <luna_> kenvandine: yep that worked
[13:57] <kenvandine> great
[13:59] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: is there no install progress for apt packages?
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center signed tags 35ffa8a Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/XCiz
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 1492ff6 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 80 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/ikycs
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 45577ff Simon McVittie debian/ control control.in * Update libhandy dependency * https://deb.li/tCWC
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 0d4ff19 Simon McVittie debian/copyright * d/copyright: Update * https://deb.li/3ry8G
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 43ef0e1 Simon McVittie debian/ control control.in * Add Breaks on gnome-shell (<< 3.37.92) * https://deb.li/y1Lc
[14:00] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master a2bdb7c Simon McVittie debian/ control control.in * Depend on gnome-settings-daemon 3.37.x * https://deb.li/3Xg6y
[14:00] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: oh, hmm, I installed vlc and got no progress, removed it and installed again and saw progress
[14:00] <kenvandine> luna_: can you browse what's installed and see packages that are installed as debs?
[14:00] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 5bd78bf Simon McVittie debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/J3Zd
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[14:00] <kenvandine> marcustomlinson: weird...
[14:00] <oSoMoN> can a MOTU please sponsor https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/sponsoring/folder-color-common.debdiff ?
[14:00] <KGB-1> mutter pristine-tar 65ca369 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) mutter_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.delta mutter_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mutter_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3wmV
[14:00] <KGB-1> mutter upstream/latest 2b3d403 Marco Trevisan * pushed 13 commits * https://deb.li/zHuN
[14:02] <luna_> kenvandine: yep
[14:03] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: of course now without fail I see progress, tried rebooting and still progress seems to be fine
[14:03] <kenvandine> lol
[14:03] <marcustomlinson> focal and groovy. apt packages are listed
[14:04] <kenvandine> great, thanks
[14:06] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: ah, it seems like the first time you install something you don't get progress for either install or remove. I tried something new (handbrake), and the first install / remove cycle on both focal and groovy had no progress
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[14:13] <luna_> yeah listed in groovy here too
[14:21] <seb128> oSoMoN, sponsored
[14:21] <oSoMoN> seb128, thanks
[14:22] <seb128> oSoMoN, I assigned you the new librsvg update card btw, hope it's ok :-)
[14:22] <oSoMoN> yeah, I'll get to it asap
[14:23] <oSoMoN> I'm trying to wrap my head around the seed changes for gstreamer1.0-packagekit atm
[14:25] <seb128> no hurry, thx
[14:34] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: in fact it's the same with snaps (no progress on first install), however it's not a regression, I see it on stable/ubuntu-20.04/10 too
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[14:47] <xnox1> jibel:  i normally only use git-dch
[14:47] <xnox1> jibel:  if that doesn't work, make manual one
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[15:04] <jibel> xnox, ah okay, I thought you used some extra magic
[15:09] <jibel> Laney, changelog is up to date
[15:19] <xnox> jibel:  any extra magic was "emacs" + typpy typpy
[15:25] <jibel> yeah, mine is called vi
[15:44] <xnox> jibel:  oooh, three letters shorter, it must be that many times worse?
[15:44] <xnox> jibel:  or is it just two times worse, cause you use vim? =)
[15:44]  * xnox ducks rolls and hides
[15:46] <ogra> tsk ...  
[15:47]  * ogra simply solves the editor wars with "ln -s /usr/bin/vi /usr/bin/emacs" ...
[16:15] <oSoMoN> ogra, I think you got the order of the last two parameters wrong ;)
[16:16] <ogra> lol
[17:02] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme tags bc5fe4d Iain Lane upstream/3.38.0 * Upstream version 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/32TS2
[17:03] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme upstream/latest b8b4df9 Iain Lane * pushed 2 commits * https://deb.li/QhLM
[17:03] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme pristine-tar eb78bd6 Iain Lane adwaita-icon-theme_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.delta adwaita-icon-theme_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for adwaita-icon-theme_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3H9gj
[17:10] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme signed tags 6ca2f7d Iain Lane ubuntu/3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * adwaita-icon-theme Debian release 3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/UT9C
[17:10] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme ubuntu/master fb4f5f7 Iain Lane * pushed 10 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3thWG
[17:10] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme ubuntu/master 710fcd3 Jakub Steiner NEWS configure.ac * prepare for 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/3Vk9h
[17:10] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme ubuntu/master b8b4df9 Iain Lane NEWS configure configure.ac win32/adwaita-msvc.mak * New upstream version 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/DUin
[17:10] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme ubuntu/master 89353d5 Iain Lane NEWS configure configure.ac win32/adwaita-msvc.mak * Update upstream source from tag 'upstream/3.38.0' * https://deb.li/3Rdb7
[17:11] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme ubuntu/master a99ac53 Iain Lane debian/changelog * New upstream release * https://deb.li/ThHU
[17:11] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme ubuntu/master 36105c8 Iain Lane debian/watch * Revert "debian/watch: Watch for unstable releases" * https://deb.li/i3G5F
[19:23] <KGB-0> mutter tags 98b8f16 Marco Trevisan upstream/3.38.0 * Upstream version 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/38Jq7
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