keithzg[m]Is there a filter or wiki page or anything out there listing what's holding up the 20.04 LTS prompts? Not that I don't trust that it's being held up for good reason, I'm just curious :)01:02
keithzg[m](I had previously had the impression that systems set to "Prompt=lts" would get the prompt when the .1 of the release was minted, but either that was always purely correlative rather than causative or something's different this release?)01:08
sarnoldindeed I think it was always coincidental01:09
sarnoldI did see a suggestion once of which specific bug was holding things up, but I've forgotten no wwhich one it is01:09
keithzg[m]Hmm so it's just someone at Canonical decides when to flip the switch? Or at very least the criteria is not public? Not a wholly unreasonable way to do things, I guess I just always assumed there was some more formal process for thresholds, ex. no confirmed critical bugs tagged against the release (and I do see one such bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=focal&orderby=-importance so is that01:19
keithzg[m]So far have had no problems upgrading any of my systems from 18.04 to 20.04 other than the one that was using Icinga2's own repos, and they broke configs in a point release, so that was definitely not a problem on the Ubuntu side of things, hah!01:20
keithzg[m]But, not knowing exactly why the rollout is currently delayed I've mostly been cautious, certainly with the systems I admin for work; at home I'm a bit more cavalier ;)01:21
rfmThe release status page that tracks the upgrade-stopper bugs is https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-20-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/1760401:27
sarnoldoh nice, that's better than what I was about to suggest01:27
sarnold(I was going to suggest scraping all the ubuntu-release channel logs from https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/ and looking for mentions of 20.04.1 :)01:28
rfmThe fix for the last stopper bug has been released to focal-updates (it came down yesterday for me) so it shouldn't be too much longer01:29
cliluwIs there a site that lets me view info documents online? I know so many sites to read man pages online, but none to read info docs.01:42
sarnoldcliluw: the pinfo tool can make reading info files locally a little less horrible01:47
sarnoldI thought debian  systems had a 'winfo' or similar that would reexport them to a web interface of some sort but I'm not spotting it now..01:47
sarnoldcliluw: if it is debian-packaged you can read the info files via their sources.debian.org service, eg https://sources.debian.org/data/main/g/grub2/2.04-9/docs/grub.info#L3601:48
sarnoldbut that means you have to find the thing in the source. it's a bit of a pain in the butt but I use this for reading manpages all the time.01:49
cliluwsarnold: That sounds even harder than using the "info" command. :-P01:50
cliluwThanks for the suggestions though.01:50
sarnoldI read manpages for *loads* of things that I don't want to install just to read the page :)01:52
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