=== zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:19] oerheks: found the issue, for some reason the gitmux binary wasn't being picked up by tmux [01:20] creating a symbolic link from my gopath to /usr/bin/local worked [01:21] there is ; set -g status-right '#(cd #{pane_current_path}' === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly === leaftype2 is now known as leaftype === LFlare is now known as Guest19301 === LFlare is now known as Guest87921 === bocaneri is now known as Sauvin [09:17] format lvm partition is needed ubuntu 20.04? [09:18] I meant this " fdisk /dev/sdb" ? [09:57] hey guys === bildramer1 is now known as bildramer [10:47] My husband has Libre Office 6.0.7.3 on Ubuntu 18.04. He was trying to copy text out of Writer, and it detached some big wide tool bar. I'm not sure what I did but it seems to have reaattached to the side of the page. How do we get it back on top? [10:49] chull: there are dots at the top of the right-sided toolbar, move it using the mouse === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [10:54] Hejkki, Thanks for your help. I expanded his page to the right, but don't see dots. The left side bar doesn't seem to have dots either. There are >>> but doesn't seem to apply? [11:18] Hi all [11:59] chull: if that's still an issue, a screenshot should help clarify what the problem is, and what the toolbar looks like for him. [13:10] morning guys [13:10] hope your having a great Sunday morning [13:10] need input I am looking for the ubunto DDE iso build script [13:11] I have looked on the main sites and nothing . but we want to match the build on arm64 [13:30] test [13:48] Wow. For some reason PyQt on Bionic depends on >=Python 3.6, and <3.7 [13:48] Meaning it can only run on Python 3.6 and installing the newer versions from the Bionic repository renders all PyQt apps broken [13:50] Especially bad news for us who were hoping to run an app that has both Python 3.8 and PyQt as a dependency. Not on this system, it seems [14:16] hi all, I need to run a 32 bit program on a 64 bit ubuntu 20, can anyone tell me how to do that? [14:21] agile_prg, https://superuser.com/questions/1076730/how-to-run-32-bit-app-in-recent-ubuntu-64-bit [14:23] agile_prg: you may need an 18.04 chroot, though, unless it comes with all i386 libraries [14:25] I have another ubuntu installation that has this program working, it has this installed: libelf1:i386 [14:26] I don't know how to install it on my other ubuntu [14:26] any ideas? [14:30] which ubuntu release is this other ubuntu installation at? [14:31] agile_prg, seems to me that libelf1 is available on 20.04 as i386 pkg; apt-cache policy libelf1:i386 [14:31] !info libelf1:i386 focal [14:31] Package libelf1i386 does not exist in focal [14:31] !info libelf1 focal [14:31] libelf1 (source: elfutils): library to read and write ELF files. In component main, is important. Version 0.176-1.1build1 (focal), package size 42 kB, installed size 184 kB [14:31] hmm, no architectures listed, but i agree with ioria [14:32] agile_prg, https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/libelf1 [14:35] I tried this: apt-get install libelf1:i386 unable to locate package [14:36] agile_prg, apt-cache policy libelf1:i386 [14:37] says unable to locate package [14:37] agile_prg, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures [14:37] no output from that command [14:38] agile_prg, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update (but honestly it should already enabled) [14:39] ok that command lists i386 now [14:39] after running that [14:39] agile_prg, beware of 32 libs (you should know what you do) [14:40] beware how? [14:40] i ave my answer [14:40] well, I am worried about introducing i386 libs into a 64 bit environment [14:45] you don't need to be as long as you use apt for it, with your releases' apt sources. [14:47] ok got it to work, many thanks! [14:49] hola senor and senorita. secure network for personal use: https://pastebin.com/rGcZXpie adios!!! [15:35] Hello. I'm having a strange problem with logging verbosity.. and I can't find anything online to help me turn down the logging level on something. It's strange, because playing "KPatientce" under Ubuntu 19.10... /var/logsyslog is getting absolutely inundated with gdm-x-session messages (from gdm3) for every single change made in the X window for my solitaire game... 45 *GIGS* of these logs in thelast 36 [15:35] hours. This is new behaviour since I attached a second monitor to the system, and seems quite crazy. Has anyone run into this before? [15:41] hey any app that can help with more advanced display configuraton? [15:41] i have a monitor with a dual driver [15:41] shows up as two displays mirrored as one [15:41] it works but as soon as I changed the scaling factor it did the mirror [15:42] goddard, on what ubuntu version? [15:42] 20.04 [15:42] gnome systemsettings is a fine tool to mirror/set displays..why would scaling do that? [15:43] !19.10 | heebie [15:43] heebie: Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) was the 31st release of Ubuntu, support ended July 2020. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-July/005494.html [15:43] oerheks: it works on gnome, but as soon as I enable "Fractional Scaling" it breaks [15:44] i have to use 100% or 200% [15:44] heebie: chances are you have a broken or loose HDMI or DP wire there. [15:45] also how can I resize wondows so they don't extend past my display size? [15:45] F11 full screen perhaps? [15:47] no luck [15:50] gnome is nice and smooth, but i need a way to move the window or resize [15:51] tomreyn: hmm... the monitor that I added uses the HDMI socket... it's the brand new one.. I reconnected the old one using a VGA cable... and the solitaire window is on that monitor. I should check if I get the same verbosity if I move it from one monitor to another. [15:53] heebie: share some of the output on a pastebin [15:53] but only for a supported ubuntu release, please [16:02] Aww. My release isn't supported. (Just found this issue... AFTER spending a bunch of money buying parts to build a new system to replace this one.. which becomes extremely unstable periodically because of this glitch filling 100% of space on /) [16:27] I am just trying to get vim8.1 or vim8.2 on ubuntu 18.04. I don't know why it's so hard. I just tried to install it manually from source, but I got that "curses library is not installed" even though libncurses5 is installed. ....... help? [16:28] you could use neovim [16:28] no thanks. I use vim. [16:29] it is vim just more modern [16:29] less cruft [16:29] 8.2 is in beta https://snapcraft.io/vim-editor [16:30] or https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/vim?field.series_filter=bionic [16:30] not exactly. neovim and vim8.2 have nearly the same feature set. Neovim is about to pretty much fully support tree-sitter syntax highlighting which is really cool, but other than that, although there are some syntactical differences and some minor pros and cons to each, neovim and vim8.2 are basically the same [16:31] if one builds from source, you need to apply updates yourself [16:31] I am aware [16:31] I had built vim on arch for years [16:31] novasenco: yeah but it wasn't like that at first. The developer for VIM didn't want to make any of the changes suggested and thus why NeoVim was created [16:31] I will check out that snap. I have never used ubuntu, but I suppose that installing that vim snap should be pretty straight forward [16:32] after Neovim did it successfully the Vim dev finally came around [16:32] this is true [16:32] and yet here we are. :terminal, job_start(), etc. :) [16:32] haha [16:32] unfortunately they did not coordinate on names or standards [16:33] I like neovim; I just have vim set up properly - not neovim - don't have time to set it up, and have used vim for a while so I use it. [16:33] sure [16:33] I am lazy and just use Spacevim [16:33] with neovim [16:33] oh my [16:34] i configure a few things but mostly as spacevim sets it up is good for me [16:36] oh and you gotta use Kitty [16:36] need that GPU accel for the terminal [16:36] I have a super crazy vimrc in much need of some pruning and fixing and if I tried to switch to neovim, ... well, let's not talk about that. I have some stuff I gotta take care of before I can do that. I have also been waiting for neovim to finally get a feature that vim will almost certainly not implement. syntax highlighting using tree-sitter in vim can be done with text properties, but it's super [16:36] haha [16:36] inconvenient. neovim is making it much better; once that is solidified and I get a window of opportunity, I may migrate my config ... crazy config -> https://gitlab.com/dylnmc/vim-config/-/blob/master/vimrc [16:37] pretty lengthy [16:38] don't look in autoload/ and plugin/ ... it is sprawling as well as lengthy [16:39] haha now i will [16:39] !discuss [16:39] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [16:43] Hello, does anyone know how to fix issues with a daisy chained DisplayPort monitor being detected on my pc but being black and reporting no signal? I am on a gtx 1660 super card and am using ubuntu 20.04 with the nvidia-driver-440 [16:43] I tried running " xset dpms force off " and setting option "harddpms" to false in the nvidia xconf file so far [16:43] it has not worked [16:46] why did snap install --edge vmi-editor install vim-editor and not vim? Should I move `which vim-editor` to vim? @_@ [16:48] vim-editor IS vim ??.. [16:48] I don't want to alias vim-editor vim, and I want to type vim not vim-editor [16:50] sounds like a non-issue novasenco [16:50] pardon? [16:50] just alias it. moving it might break updates or something [16:51] yeah, make an alias, or don't install the snap version wich uses a different naming to seperate any installed vim version. [16:51] 81.04 will not get a newer vim, it is LTS. [16:51] c/18.04 [16:53] displayport daisy chaining is broken on nvidia drivers or something [16:53] one of my DP monitors is detected but the monitor sees no signal [17:02] anyone have experience with displayport monitor issues? [17:02] Cheetz: did you try another nvidia driver? [17:03] I'm using nvidia-driver-440 right now, I don't know what other driver options are available for my gpu. I would really like to avoid downgrading my kernel or using noveau drivers [17:04] Cheetz: downgrading kernel is not what we try here, check ubuntu-drivers list instead for your drivers options [17:05] this is the output of ubuntu-drivers list: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KR3gWnzCRR/ [17:08] them monitor works on windows on the same computer by the way [17:09] *the [17:09] Cheetz: which gpu do you have? [17:09] gtx 1660 super [17:09] Cheetz: hmm seems your card only has the 440 so it seems [17:09] Cheetz: you're on 20.04? [17:09] yeah [17:10] i found this thread that seems relevant https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=250696 [17:10] i disabled harddpms as proposed in the thread and nothing seems to have changed [17:10] but i only did that for the device section [17:11] maybe it also needs to be changed in the screen section of xconfig [17:12] I installed ppa linked then installed vim-gtk3 and now I have 8.2. whatever which is exactly what I wanted. Also, the snap did not work at all. Whenever I edited any file with vim-editor from that snap, I got "can't write file" error and it thought my home was /home/nova/snap/vim-editor/1/ which is pretty weird. Pretty much nothing worked, but the ppa works great. thanks [17:13] Cheetz: pastebin your dmesg please? [17:14] for snaps, go into softwarecenter > installed > permissions [17:14] often you find multiple options, for use outside home folder and such [17:15] lotuspsychje https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nQBGcX3XC8/ [17:16] reading [17:18] !info nvidia-driver-440 [17:18] nvidia-driver-440 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-440): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Version 440.100-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 (focal), package size 407 kB, installed size 1165 kB [17:19] It might be relevant that I had to first boot the system into recovery mode and install nvidia-driver-440 manually because it would boot to all black screens before [17:19] Cheetz: sudo lshw -C video please? [17:20] Cheetz: well even if you installed it manually, ubuntu-drivers should list all drivers i think [17:20] im trying to think why your card doesnt provide more versions then 440 [17:20] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qY8TX3MwFs/ lotuspsychje [17:21] Cheetz: ok looks good, driver loaded there [17:21] Do you think it's something to do with DPMS? [17:22] I don't understand exactly what it is, but from what I understand it's some system that sends monitors to sleep [17:22] Also, sometimes the monitor that is a black screen displays an error message "Signal out of range" [17:22] Cheetz: i would try a driver switch first, to see to what happens [17:23] Cheetz: maybe try nvidia-driver-435 manually then? [17:23] do it the apt way, see if you get any error [17:23] reboot and test your monitor [17:24] Cheetz: got a ryzen cpu? [17:25] lotuspsychje: How do I switch to the driver after installing it, and how do I restore to the 440 driver if it breaks graphics? [17:25] Yeah, I use ryzen [17:26] Cheetz: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-435 will switch it [17:27] Cheetz: if you get in possible nvidia driver troubles, you can always sudo apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau and use !nomodeset to bypass black screens at boot [17:27] Where would I specify nomodeset? [17:27] !nomodeset | Cheetz [17:27] Cheetz: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. [17:28] Cheetz: for your ryzen case/new msi mobo you might also need higher kernels tests when issues arise, !mainline [17:28] Cheetz: but lets focus on drivers first [17:29] lotuspsychje: does driver 435 support my video card? I'm trying to find that out right now [17:30] also, on the nvidia page for driver 440 https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/153226/ it says "Fixed a bug that could cause a blank screen on some DisplayPort monitors when logging in to GNOME, if the nvidia-drm kernel module parameter modeset=1 is specified. " [17:31] Could this be the issue I am experiencing and maybe i'm on an older 440 version? [17:31] there seems to be a bios 3.7 available .. https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/hhypcx/b450_tomahawk_max_new_final_bios_v37_with_agesa/ [17:31] Oh, I have a bios issue? [17:31] one needs to login on https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX#down-bios to see, i guess [17:32] is it something in my dmesg? [17:32] Cheetz, bios updates are important with new products,, [17:32] i read line #65 you have 3.6 [17:33] Oh, I see. I think that the graphics issues i'm having now are unrelated, though I will update the bios later [17:35] Cheetz: another road you can take, is add the ubuntu graphics ppa and see if you can pull 435 from there [17:36] Cheetz: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [17:38] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1240603/second-monitor-not-detected-brightness-not-working-with-nvidia-gtx-1660ti [17:38] could this be the problem? it suggests updating the kernel [17:38] my kernel version is 5.4.0-47 [17:38] next Groovy will have 5.8, last post on that url [17:39] I'm gonna install nvidia-driver-435 and hope it works i guess [17:39] Cheetz: ok good luck! [17:40] if 435 works, do you think this issue is a bug in 440 then? Do you think it will eventually be resolved in an update? [17:40] Cheetz: there are a few current bugs in 440 yeah, but we have to prove it first its your case [17:41] ok i apt installed 435, how do i switch to it? [17:41] reboot [17:41] ok, I will be back [17:45] lotuspsychje I rebooted [17:45] That screen is still black [17:45] Should I verify that driver 435 loaded? [17:46] Cheetz: sudo lshw -C video [17:46] lotuspsychje https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9rdg7B8nhJ/ [17:47] Cheetz: yes loaded [17:47] Could it be that it is still using driver 440? [17:47] Cheetz: lets see; nvidia-smi [17:48] Nope, it says Driver Version: 435.21 [17:48] ok good, so we proved it must be something else then the driver [17:49] I think the harddpms parameter can be relevant [17:49] a lot of people complaining of black DisplayPort screens mention dpms [17:49] Cheetz: like oerheks said, bios update, then perhaps try kernel 5.6 !mainline, or soon ubuntu 20.10 with kernel 5.8 [17:50] How do I install kernel 5.6? [17:50] Cheetz: check !mainline [17:50] !mainline [17:50] The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [17:50] is there a ppa for it? [17:51] Cheetz: its described in the factoid, https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D [17:52] Cheetz: after chosen a kernel version, install the headers, image and modules [17:53] lotuspsychje: maybe we should look for more likely problem candidates first? [17:53] Cheetz: just keep in mind, mainline is for testing purposes [17:53] I see that factoid mentions problems with virtualbox, which is an issue because I use virtualbox. Although i do not have it installed on this new machine yet [17:55] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1105332/external-monitor-not-working-ubuntu-nvidia [17:56] can the modeset setting be relevant, lotuspsychje? [17:58] I just went to nvidia settings and changed my power preferences to prefer maximum performance [17:58] I will reboot and test it now [17:58] brb [17:58] ok [18:02] Why are colours not 6 hex chars? For example: ColorBackground=#28282a2a3636. What should I do to make the background black? Using Xfce. [18:02] Does that specify one colour, or multiple ones? [18:02] lotuspsychje: no change [18:03] Cheetz: ok, you might need to go the !mainline road [18:03] what can a new kernel fix? [18:04] Cheetz: on recent hardware, a lot [18:04] If it works, would it imply an incompatibility between driver 440 and my current kernel? [18:05] Cheetz: possibly [18:05] lotuspsychje I want to try doing nomodeset first [18:05] sure, its your system Cheetz [18:06] lotuspsychje: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/black-screen-after-install-of-nvidia-driver-ubuntu/109312 this link mentions nvidia-prime [18:07] Cheetz: when installing the nvidia driver, nvidia-prime should be installed automaticly already [18:08] I checked and I already have it installed [18:12] hey there , anyone that could help with a slow boot problem on 20.04 [18:19] tuxx_: elaborate what happens exactly please [18:36] @ it takes up to 2 minutes to boot [18:36] tuxx_: can you press F1 during boot, to switch to textboot and see where it hangs exactly? [18:37] journalctl -b -0 shows messages from the current boot, [18:37] lotuspsychje i had run a systemd-analyze , can i find something from this ? [18:37] tuxx_: pastebin please [18:38] systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg # gives a svg about boot times [18:39] i have to paste here the pastebin url ? [18:40] oerheks oh thx [18:41] tuxx_: if you want volunteers to take a look, sure [18:41] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qGM4Wk44Cy/ [18:41] lotuspsychje new to freenode so i didnt know if i can paste it here , thank you again [18:42] tuxx_: you seem to have kernel oops there, probably make other things delay too [18:43] tuxx_: can we see your dmesg in a pastebin please? [18:45] lotuspsychje https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9cgSKM6GkG/ [18:48] tuxx_: could be amdgpu related [18:49] lotuspsychje hmmm drivers ? didn't have any problems with 19.04 [18:49] zmagii: colors use RGB, each ranges from 00-FF, black color is #000000, white is #FFFFFF [18:49] Hey need some help with several open ports on UFW and why they are open. Anyone able to guide me in this process? [18:50] can you pastebin the ufw output [18:51] not too sure how to accomplish this. newish to linux and just getting into security features [18:51] !paste > random1 [18:51] random1, please see my private message [18:52] I know how to use pastebin just not the output for UFW [18:53] sudo ufw status verbose [18:57] https://pastebin.com/6zZaAC0j [18:57] sorry for the delay. dog ran in the room and went completely crazy trying to chew up my laptop cords lolol [19:00] random1, did you install Gufw? the gui for ufs in settings [19:00] i do have gufw [19:00] c/ufs/ufw [19:02] I have gufw open right now === Anarchic` is now known as Anarchic [19:04] under 'reports' i see 40920(my vpn), 51839, 5353, 631, 68, 5353, 60370 [19:04] was curious why so many and if i could disable some of those [19:05] or are they pretty secure and i shouldnt really worry? [19:05] 68 is dhcp, 631 is squid I think [19:06] under 'reports' is this is what is actively happening right now? or are these just the rules to only allow those ports to be used [19:07] this is a fresh install and i am under a public wifi 99% of the time [19:09] 631 is for printing so if you dont print, you can close it [19:11] closed it [19:12] set policy to deny [19:12] in case tuxx_ may return: they may want/need a bios upgrade (currently on 2.90 for this picasso cpu) https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M%20Steel%20Legend/#BIOS [19:13] 68 DHCP and 631 squid. Not too sure what those are. I really need to find a good guide on ports [19:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers [19:14] im on that but it doesnt show 51839 [19:16] try, sudo netstat -plant | grep 51839 [19:16] or 60370 [19:17] i enter "sudo netstat -plant | grep 51839" and nothing came up [19:18] try without the grep ... [19:19] nothing is using it that i see [19:22] sent you a message with the pastebin [19:30] Does anyone know how to view logs of a failed autoinstall? [19:30] Is there a kernel flag I need to pass to make it interactive so I can view the log file after a failure? [19:31] laundry: are you referring to #ubuntu-server ? [19:32] tomreyn: Yup. I didn't know there was a channel for that. I'll go ask there :) === mkv is now known as m4v [19:46] Anyone else than me that have latest Chrome behave like a complete mess on 20.04? [19:46] That is Chrome 85.0.4183.102 (Official Build) (64-bit) [19:49] wipe the ~/.cache/google-chrome and ~/.config/google-chrome folder and see if it happens again? [20:00] to clean linux the easiest install bleachbit [20:00] apt install bleachbit [20:01] and run it [20:01] then run it as root su [20:01] and then your system will be clean [20:01] there is a good video on youtube from TitusTechTips [20:01] about it [20:03] bleachbit, stacer, fslint, sweeper .. carefull what you clean [20:04] yes thats why you should watch youtube video's [20:04] they help with it [20:05] I am huntung the build script for ubuntudde iso [20:05] I need the pkg list they use for the install [20:09] !derivatives | rneese [20:09] rneese: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) === catman is now known as catman370 [20:11] my experience with youtube videos for how-tos and troubleshooting guides is very mixed. [20:16] Titus puts alot of wok to put correct info and makes it easy to follow [20:21] rneese: is that deepin (ubuntudde)? packages in https://community-packages.deepin.com/deepin/dists/apricot/main/binary-amd64/ [20:22] I need the build script to see the pkgs they use that install everything for the build [20:22] I have emailed the ubuntudde support but no responce in over a week [20:23] totally offtopic here [20:23] its ubuntu releated its just a desktop distro [20:23] No, see the topic, no derivates [20:24] I have a VPS with Ubuntu 18.04 It didn't come with fuse installed. after installing fuse and libfuse2 I tried to `sudo modprobe fuse` and got this error: `modprobe: FATAL: Module fuse not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0` [20:24] Do I need to build a specific fuse version? [20:34] Hello everyone! [20:34] Watching Mulan [20:35] #ubuntu-offtopic? [20:38] hi all [20:38] is anyone using lxc/lxd with zfs? [20:39] lol cknight70 [20:43] (or is anyone really familiar with zfs?) [20:46] aberrant: try #lxcontainers [20:46] join #debian [20:47] cknight70: you'll need to install the modules/modules-extra for your kernel. Though with this being a VPS, it's more than likely a shared kernel and not supported by the OS. [20:51] Thanks some other people told me it should have worked by default too so I contacted my VPS provider. What command should I type to install the extra modules leftyfb? [20:53] cknight70, if you don't control the kernel, you can't install/load modules... you're not really root. otherwise if its a genuine vserver, you might be booting some older kernel by mistake, not what ubuntu believes it has installed for you [20:54] cknight70, uname -a? [20:54] `Linux hauntedasscheeks 4.15.0 #1 SMP Tue Jun 9 12:58:54 MSK 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux` [20:55] I have root access to the VPS but I am guessing you mean root to the host server [20:57] cknight70, the host doesn't matter, but there are different virtualization technologies, some don't boot your own kernel/environment, they just kind of chroot-jail you. so you don't get to install your own bootloader/kernel/do whatever you like with modules etc. no idea what your vps plan is like or what it uses for virtualization or how its set up [20:58] It is setup badly as you can see [20:59] Thank you for helping me understand what might be wrong with it [21:00] What Kernel is Ubuntu 18.04 supposed to have? === dingir is now known as dingir_ [21:49] is it better to run server or desktop if I need the gui but intend to run the system as a server [21:51] Donavan01: What do you need the GUI for? [21:52] some tools I want to use on it to make life easier [21:52] I know I technically dont need it but it sure is handy to not have to do everything in one screen too [21:53] is desktop any less secure ? [21:53] or limit on how many cpus/users === leaftype2 is now known as leaftype === sharpie_3 is now known as sharpie [22:03] Donavan01, subjective questions don't have easy answers. "It depends" is the only valid answer, unless you seek opinions. [22:04] I am curious on your opinion @TheFu_ [22:05] no it doesnt ... does desktop have more open ports, can it support the same number of cpus or users how is that subjective its a concrete fact one way or another this isnt philosophy [22:05] !ot | Donavan01 [22:05] Donavan01: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [22:05] Donavan01: please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support questions. [22:07] Donavan01: to answer one underlying question, the desktop edition is no different than ubuntu server other than what packages are installed by default. [22:08] Donavan01, typically if you have an internet facing server, you would want to only run the exact number of services needed. [22:08] leftyfb, this can have far reaching impacts for less experienced users. For example, servers expect completely different network configuration than what a desktop end-user would usually be able to handle. [22:08] TheFu_: which is not the case here since they insist on a GUI. [22:09] If they add a GUI later to the server install, they may not add the little, useless tools like network manager. [22:09] either way, not a topic for a support channel. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions [22:10] Donavan01, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen [22:29] !hwe [22:29] The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack === guuurkan_ is now known as guuurkan [22:33] !info nvidia-driver-450 focal [22:33] Package nvidia-driver-450 does not exist in focal [22:35] gimzmoe: the 450 version driver is available in our trusted PPA: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . [22:38] Bashing-om: I'm unfamilar with how to use that site [22:40] it gives a clear "Adding this PPA to your system" tutor [22:40] hidden right htere in plain sight [22:42] gimzmoe: There can be only one ! Make sure you purge the OEM driver install attempt. [22:45] I think you gave me what I was missing, thanks! [23:04] anybody know how to install snap i ended up removing it by running "sudo apt autoremove --purge snapd" [23:06] ehh, you removed the core component snapd? [23:07] sudo apt install --reinstall snapd [23:07] yeah because "repo init" wasnt working so i wanted to try using "apt-get install repo" [23:09] i ran "sudo apt install --reinstall snapd" but it gave me an error https://pastebin.com/z96njTEs why is that? [23:11] interesting .. time to get a fresh vm [23:12] surely there must be a way to reinstall it? [23:13] maybe after restart of that vm.. [23:16] !info snapd focal | shailangsa [23:16] shailangsa: snapd (source: snapd): Daemon and tooling that enable snap packages. In component main, is optional. Version 2.45.1+20.04.2 (focal), package size 26613 kB, installed size 117016 kB [23:18] oh it is there.. [23:18] but such action messes up the vm running [23:19] lesson learned; reinstall :-P [23:20] ive just rebooted the vm and its giving the same "E: Package 'snapd' has no installation candidate" [23:20] how can i reinstall it seeing as it is an optional package? [23:22] shailangsa: what does 'aot-cache show snapd' give [23:22] *apt [23:23] it gives: N: Can't select versions from package 'snapd' as it is purely virtual, N: No packages found [23:26] shailangsa: maybe 'apt-cache rdepends snapd' ? [23:26] that's the list of stuff that have snapd as a dep [23:26] or start with apt update [23:29] is it any of these https://pastebin.com/pkJYs3CH ? [23:30] why do you let out the lists it fetches? [23:31] or did you disable *all* repos in update-settings? [23:31] what do you mean? [23:36] !info gir1.2-snapd-1 [23:36] gir1.2-snapd-1 (source: snapd-glib): Typelib file for libsnapd-glib1. In component main, is optional. Version 1.57-0ubuntu3 (focal), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any) [23:36] shailangsa: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like? just curious [23:39] oerheks i saw it was disabled and i enabled it now, what does "apt-cache rdepends snapd" do? [23:40] is it true that if you have exactly 4GB ram but use 32bit OS, 32bit OS cannot use all 4GB ? [23:41] it can, but the max *adressable* is 4 gb, including all sorts of cache in hdd, processor or device. [23:42] so, you miss 4gb - videomem - cache [23:43] how much of 4GB can 32bit only use? [23:44] dunno, depends on your hardware. [23:44] video memory, hdd cache size, processor cache size.. [23:45] any 2 gb videocard would take a serious chunk [23:47] if i have 4GB ram should i use 32bit OS or 64bit OS [23:49] 64 bit no doubt. [23:49]