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jmcgnhI guess they're no longer here...01:11
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drejmcgnh of course not, there's no immediate answer06:35
dreIt'd be nice if there was a good, non-arch specific wiki about the state of current linux programs06:35
drei think that's probably the only thing that the debian types are missing06:36
GiolaWhat's going on with the latest kernel, of Xubuntu18 and also I tried UbuntuBudgie18, and both did the same. On my laptop (NC8000) the screen looks like someone has disrupted the pixels with little rectangular stuff. I had to go back a kernel via Grub and advanced options before I could read properly anything on the screen. And yes, I have just two09:02
Giola32 bit computers, although I also have 64 bit. But both 32 bit ones with the newest kernels for xubuntu or Budgie mess up the screen, and the kernel before that doesn't.09:02
brainwashGiola: so... you did not mention the kernel versions09:06
GiolaIt's the latest kernel version, all the others worked before that 18.04.5 has the problem all the 18.04.4 didn't09:41
Giola18.04.3 and 18.04.4 didn't have that problem09:42
brainwashGiola: a quick search gave me only this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1262259/distorted-display-after-upgrading-the-kernel-to-5-4-on-ubuntu-18-04-32-bit10:02
brainwashI suggest that you ask in #ubuntu10:04
brainwashsince it affects different DEs10:04
GiolaOK, I'm gathering the information about the graphics drivers (of the two computers, would I ask in #ubuntu) or on a forum. I fixed it by changing the grub to load the prior kernel though.10:11
Giolaheh thanks, that's exactly what I have. How did you find that, I couldn't with my searches10:12
brainwashnow I can't find it again (having browsing history disabled)10:15
brainwash=S10:15
Giolaoh well, that's annoying, I have that a lot too, grasping around in cobwebs10:17
brainwashone thing you could do is to manually install kernel 5.8 which is the latest stable version10:17
brainwashand see if that helps10:17
brainwashit requires some work to install the packages though10:18
GiolaI booked mark that discussion, and will add to it, I think. I took me a long time to figure how to deal with this. It's nice that you can go back on a kernel, microsoft doesn't have that. My 64 bit computer, before I got it, is listed having problems with updates, and...10:18
GiolaI'm fine just using an older kernel for now. I would create a usb plug with the newer kernel first, see it if works.10:18
Giolaby the way, I didn't list the kernel version, I think, I listed the xubuntu version10:22
Giolakernel 5.0.047 doesn't work. 5.0.037 does. And this is for xubuntu. I wonder whether I have that right now10:27
GiolaI'm talking about what grub lists as options. It has those two and the older one works.10:27
Giolayes, I checked it, those are the kernel releases. Also on the dell optiplex gx260 it's kernel 5.0.036. I tried a newer budgie-ubuntu and it did the same as the 5.0.047 kernel of the xubuntu on the laptop (nc8000). The link you shared that brings that up. I had to get a newer computer because of program upgrade, but have the older ones I still use,,10:41
brainwashso, you should open (or find) a bug report10:51
brainwashand maybe #ubuntu can assist with that10:51
brainwashoh10:53
GiolaI was just looking into that. What is #ubuntu? is that an irc channel?10:53
brainwashthere's #ubuntu-kernel too10:53
brainwashyes, those are other channels here on freenode10:54
giolaI'm back. I can't join xubuntu-kernel, you have to be part of....10:56
brainwashyou mean ubuntu-kernel?10:58
giolayep10:58
brainwashcould be for registered users only10:59
giolawhere would you report a bug of xubuntu?10:59
brainwash!bugs10:59
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.10:59
giolathanks!11:00
giolayes I did a google, and there's a lot of info11:00
giolayou know I feel I'm going around in circles, I have a launchpad account, and I go there and click on report a bug, and it sends me back to where I was earlier, and neither place simply has a link you can click to e-mail the bug you encountered. And how one is to report a bug when you can't read the screen to see what's going on....11:06
giolaThis is the whole problem, but I have to get some sleep now rather than going round in circles: What's going on with the latest kernel, of Xubuntu18 and also I tried UbuntuBudgie18, and both did the same. On my laptop (NC8000) the screen looks like someone has disrupted the pixels with little rectangular stuff. I had to go back a kernel via Grub11:07
giolaand advanced options before I could read properly anything on the screen. And yes, I have just two 32 bit computers, although I also have 64 bit. But both 32 bit ones with the newest kernels for xubuntu or Budgie mess up the screen, and the kernel before that doesn't. I imagine that’s the case with all of the newer kernels with Kubuntu, Lubuntu11:08
giolaetc.. And the kernels are 5.0.037 which works. And 5.0.047 which has the distortion shared. here is the lshw -c video listings for the laptop (32 bit)*-display                       description: VGA compatible controller       product: RV350/M10 / RV360/M11 [Mobility Radeon 9600 (PRO) / 9700]       vendor: Advanced Micro11:08
giolaDevices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]       physical id: 0       bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0       version: 00       width: 32 bits       clock: 66MHz       capabilities: agp agp-2.0 pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom       configuration: driver=radeon latency=64 mingnt=8       resources: irq:10 memory:98000000-9fffffff11:08
giolaioport:2000(size=256) memory:90400000-9040ffff memory:c0000-dffffAnd here for the old Dell  32 bit desktop optiplex gx260*-display                       description: VGA compatible controller       product: RV200 [Radeon 7500/7500 LE]       vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]       physical id: 0       bus11:08
giolainfo: pci@0000:01:00.0       version: 00       width: 32 bits       clock: 66MHz       capabilities: agp agp-2.0 pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom       configuration: driver=radeon latency=64 mingnt=8       resources: irq:16 memory:f0000000-f7ffffff ioport:ec00(size=256) memory:ff8f0000-ff8fffff memory:c0000-dffff11:08
diogenes_wth11:08
Giolasorry, I didn't mean to flood the channel earlier, was trying to share stuff about a bug. I did find a place to report it on launchpad. There is a place to do that here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug?no-redirect= and I reported it there.11:33
Giolabye11:33
xu-help3wI upgraded from 18.04.5 to 20.04.1and saw that the wrong Software Updater icon is displayed in the whisker menu.11:39
xu-help3wInstead of apps/system-software-update.png, the panel/system-software-update.png icon file is displayed!11:41
xu-help3wIs this a bug?11:42
xu-help3wanyone?11:43
xu-help3wam I the only one?11:43
xu-help3wcorrection I mean ..../apps/22/.... and ..../panel/22/.... directories11:45
diogenes_xu-help3w, check out the standard iso: https://distrotest.net/Xubuntu11:46
xu-help3wCan someone confirm this bug?11:46
xu-help3wWhat should I check?11:48
diogenes_click start and explore the desktop, see if the bug is there too.11:49
xu-help3wSorry for my last question11:52
xu-help3wYes I see the same problem in the test11:52
xu-help3wIs this a known bug?11:53
diogenes_then it's not a bug but a feature :)11:53
xu-help3wLol11:53
xu-help3wSeriously is this a known defect?11:55
xu-help3wThe panel icon only has 2 arcing arrows and no orange background12:01
xu-help3wIn 18.04 the system-software-update.png panel icons didn't exist12:04
xu-help3wWaiting for a reply......12:05
xu-help3w;(  Maybe it is time to switch from Xubuntu to Manjaro12:09
xu-help3wKnock knock, anybody there?12:14
diogenes_could you post a screenshot?12:15
xu-help3wHow can I do that/12:17
diogenes_!screenshot12:17
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.12:17
xu-help3wimgur, ok12:17
ahgashdgadhttps://imgur.com/a/FwSqzsO12:51
ahgashdgadIn 20.04 the wrong icon for the Software Updater app is displayed in the whisker menu12:52
ahgashdgadinstead of the .../apps/22/system-software-update.png file the ...../panel/22/system-sosftware-update.png file is displayed12:53
ahgashdgadPlease file this as a defect, if this hasn't been done yet12:56
tomreynahgashdgad: i suggest you look for an existing bug report on this. and if there is none, and you're convinced it's a bug, you file one.12:57
tomreyn!bug | ahgashdgad12:57
ubottuahgashdgad: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.12:57
tomreynI can confirm that the icon on the screenshot you posted at https://i.imgur.com/k1egI4d.png is also seen on the Xubuntu (20.04 LTS) installer / live session available on distrotest.net: https://i.imgur.com/la5QYlh.png13:01
ahgashdgadNo idea which package i should mention13:02
tomreynahgashdgad: can you provide the full path of the icon files you referred to?13:04
ahgashdgadsure, but is also depends on the selected icon set13:05
tomreynso are you using a non default icon set?13:05
tomreyni assume it happpens with the default icon set, since we can see this icon on the distrotest.net image.13:06
ahgashdgadlet's assume we are using elementary Xfce darker13:06
brainwashthat's elementary-xfce (a customized version of the elementary icon theme)13:06
ahgashdgadfile: /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce-dark/panel/22/system-software-update.png13:07
ahgashdgadi.s.o. /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce/apps/22/system-software-update.png13:08
tomreynhmm i'm not enough into xubuntu to understand which package to file this against then13:09
brainwashbut what is the problem with the icon?13:09
ahgashdgadIt is the wrong one, that should only be used in panels13:10
ahgashdgadThe correct one has an orange background13:10
brainwashhttps://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/blob/master/elementary-xfce/apps/22/system-software-update.svg13:10
brainwashthe orange one13:10
ahgashdgadYes13:10
ahgashdgadthe correct one is /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce/apps/22/system-software-update.png13:12
tomreynwhat'S the output of     dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce/apps/22/system-software-update.png13:12
ahgashdgadelementary-xfce-icon-theme13:12
tomreynso run    ubuntu-bug elementary-xfce-icon-theme13:13
tomreynand report your findings, with screen shots, and full path names13:13
brainwashhttps://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/issues/20613:14
brainwashprobably fixed in 20.1013:14
ahgashdgadSo it is a known bug, we don't need to report it13:15
brainwashit won't get fixed in 20.04 though13:17
ahgashdgadI see a lot of changes in svg files, i doubt it is fixed13:19
brainwashit is for me (different distribution with latest elementary-xfce release)13:20
brainwashor do you mean in 20.10?13:20
brainwashthe upcoming Xubuntu release13:20
ahgashdgadYou use 20.10?13:20
brainwashno13:21
brainwash!info elementary-xfce-icon-theme groovy13:21
ubottuelementary-xfce-icon-theme (source: elementary-xfce): elementary icon theme modified for Xfce. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-1 (groovy), package size 5549 kB, installed size 18857 kB13:21
brainwash!info elementary-xfce-icon-theme focal13:21
ubottuelementary-xfce-icon-theme (source: elementary-xfce): elementary icon theme modified for Xfce. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-1 (focal), package size 5549 kB, installed size 18857 kB13:21
brainwashsame version :/13:22
brainwash0.1513:23
brainwash0.15.1 has the fix13:23
brainwashdon't confuse 0.15-1 with 0.15.113:23
ahgashdgadOo ok, thx guys13:24
brainwashnow this is odd. launchpad reports something different..13:25
brainwashhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elementary-xfce/0.15.1-113:25
jay-m_Hello !13:45
jay-m_I am using xubuntu 18.04, is it possible to 20.04 using do-release-upgrade (upgrader) tool ?13:47
jay-m_I am using xubuntu 18.04, is it possible to upgrade to 20.04 using do-release-upgrade (upgrader) tool ?13:47
diogenes_jay-m_, afaik no upgrade path yet?13:48
jay-m_still searching :)13:58
JuogsgSi17:04
JuogsgVamos17:04
JuogsgMotivate17:04
VipVophi23:46
VipVopI have a question about svideo if anyone can kindly spare the time\23:47
Bashing-om!ask | VipVop23:51
ubottuVipVop: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:51
VipVop!ask does xubuntu have svideo support?23:52
ubottuVipVop: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:52
Bashing-omVipVop: "apt search svideo" indicates there is support.23:59

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