[00:30] Zica Total was added by: Zica Total [01:27] Chembian was added by: Chembian [01:27] (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/NNueu6iu.png [01:27] (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/6sNKzi7u.png [01:28] @Hannah122 [], Firefox works fine in Libertine though with OTA13 [01:29] is it possible to use onlyoffice on Ubuntu touch? [02:40] @M4rcosG4briel [is it possible to use onlyoffice on Ubuntu touch?], Probably not - perhaps if someone made a webapp for it's online version. I tried OnlyOffice desktop on my x86 HP table running Makulu Shift (Ubuntu 20.04 base) yesterday and couldn't even get it to work there. [02:42] @M4rcosG4briel [is it possible to use onlyoffice on Ubuntu touch?], Abiword and Gnumeric work ok in Libertine container with UT if using external keyboard and display. Also - via my Dropbox account I am able to use online LibreOffice tools via UT's Morph browser. [02:48] @M4rcosG4briel [is it possible to use onlyoffice on Ubuntu touch?], [Edit] Probably not - perhaps if someone made a webapp for it's online version. I tried OnlyOffice desktop on my x86 HP tablet running Makulu Shift (Ubuntu 20.04 base) yesterday and couldn't even get it to work there. [02:55] christmas day has come! [03:12] vijror was added by: vijror [03:16] Suresh was added by: Suresh [03:50] Just out of curiousity, Ubuntu Touch relies on surfaceflinger, or no? [04:30] OTA-13 just got release and I'm already excited for OTA-14 … looks like multi-monitor and workspace support is slated for this OTA 😁 [04:31] my problem is, I'm not sure if any of Nexus 5s still have working external display 😅 [04:43] What does OTA stand for? [04:48] I think Over the Air, meaning online updates [05:50] Boot time seems really slow with OTA13 on Nexus 5 [06:08] Still eagerly awaiting GPS to get enabled on the pinephone. [06:32] @Captain Pugwash [Still eagerly awaiting GPS to get enabled on the pinephone.], that's already working right? well I haven't really tried it yet myself but I think it works already [06:33] Doesn't seem to be working yet [06:33] @Javacookies [that's already working right? well I haven't really tried it yet myself but I th …], Nope: https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/pinephone#what-works-what-doesnt [06:38] @jonny [Nope: https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/pinephone#what-works-what-doesn …], hmmm, I'm pretty sure I read it multiple times that they said it should be working...oh well 😄 [06:44] (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/Zc6TW0HC.png [06:44] Is this a known issue with libertine? [06:47] It also tried to delete /dev/* [07:06] @TotalSonic [Firefox works fine in Libertine though with OTA13], Imma use the deb probably [07:06] Is there anyway to reset the rootfs? Preferrably without the installer, as my laptop still messed up [07:06] can somebody points me to a doc or the steps to get halium 7.1 image installed on my N5 ? [07:25] @lduboeuf [can somebody points me to a doc or the steps to get halium 7.1 image installed o …], In the forum https://forums.ubports.com/post/26668 [07:27] oh nice i mssed that one, thx :) [07:27] [Edit] oh nice i missed that one, thx :) [07:31] @Hannah122 [Is there anyway to reset the rootfs? Preferrably without the installer, as my la …], if it still boots, you can switch channel [08:14] Halfcheez was added by: Halfcheez [08:54] NoDataMusic was added by: NoDataMusic [08:55] For Mi a3 ? 🥺 [08:55] What apps don't work in OTA-13 on Xperia X? [09:07] Kaizennn was added by: Kaizennn [09:12] @BigRockLonelyWolf [What apps don't work in OTA-13 on Xperia X?], I haven't switched yet to stable but if it's correct that it's arm64 then apps that don't have arm64 builds likr Bluetooth Transfer app [09:12] eallion was added by: eallion [09:17] @Javacookies [I haven't switched yet to stable but if it's correct that it's arm64 then apps t …], It is armhf! [09:18] @BigRockLonelyWolf [It is armhf!], really? I thought it'll be arm64. If it's armhf then all apps should be working [09:22] @Javacookies [really? I thought it'll be arm64. If it's armhf then all apps should be working], On OTA-13 I used 2 app, uAdBlock and camera. The first crash immediately, the second crash immediately and crash also lomiri and you must reset the phone. One solution, comeback to devel channel. [10:05] Gal_lil was added by: Gal_lil [10:09] @BigRockLonelyWolf [On OTA-13 I used 2 app, uAdBlock and camera. The first crash immediately, the se …], If you had an armhf system installed before you need to reinstall all apps. There is a button for that in the system settings [10:11] @jonny [If you had an armhf system installed before you need to reinstall all apps. Ther …], I'll do it! [10:28] I'm trying to switch to stable now but I can't 😅 … switching to RC shows image 4 but stable won't show anything … and there are 2 devel channels [10:28] I haven't updated on devel for quite a while though [10:43] The two devel channels are 32 and 64 bit [10:43] First one should be 64 [10:44] Always make sure to install pending updates befor switching I guess [10:56] Sid127 was added by: Sid127 [10:57] Connectednode was added by: Connectednode [11:27] @Javacookies [OTA-13 just got release and I'm already excited for OTA-14 … looks like multi-moni …], slow down cowboy first we need the upgrade xD [11:29] yeah, I can't even switch to stable on my xperia x 😊 [11:29] @Hannah122 [Is there anyway to reset the rootfs? Preferrably without the installer, as my la …], yes you can ssh in and run `sudo system-image-cli -b 0 --progress=dots` iirc [11:29] [Edit] yeah, I can't even switch to stable on my xperia x 😅 [11:29] ohw wait without a laptop 😅 [11:31] @Javacookies [yeah, I can't even switch to stable on my xperia x 😅], oof hmm [11:32] @NoDataMusic [For Mi a3 ? 🥺], if you're device is not listed on devices.ubuntu-touch.io. we need you to port it. visit docs.halium.org to get started [11:47] maybe the gradual release of OTA-13 is still not completed so my xperia x can't see an update when switching to stable. I guess I'll wait for now [11:53] wasn't there a command you were suppose to use to get it atm? [11:53] I guess but I want to use the normal way 😄 [11:53] ah [11:54] was the xperia x added to the installer this ota or something? [11:54] [Edit] was the xperia x added to the installer this ota? [11:54] it has been in the installer for quite some tim but stable channel starts with OTA13 [11:55] ah now i get it [11:55] guess in the meantime we need to see how many apps needs a rebuilt then xD [11:56] tho i honestly think the bt tranfer needs to be integrated into the system at some point [13:15] dokie80 was added by: dokie80 [13:15] Hi all.... [13:17] Quick question: do I have to enable something to use convergence? … I just received my slimport, but getting no display on monitor [13:18] I'm using nexus5 on 16.04 (ota-13) 9/22 [13:18] 9/22 is last updated. Sorry [13:19] obujor was added by: obujor [13:38] @dokie80 [Quick question: do I have to enable something to use convergence? … I just receive …], external display should just work with slimport adapter. most common issue is either adapter is not slimport, or you need a different HDMI cable [13:49] Hi all, I'm interested to try Ubuntu Touch, what is the best device to start with? It's still the Nexus 5? I would like to try convergence as well. Thanks! [14:16] danito_net was added by: danito_net [14:21] Yael was added by: Yael === alan_g is now known as alan_g_ [14:28] @dohbee [external display should just work with slimport adapter. most common issue is ei …], So I just need to enable external display in the setting? [14:29] @dokie80 [So I just need to enable external display in the setting?], no. there's only wireless display stuff in settings. assuming the hardware is all good, when you plug in slimport adapter and external monitor, it should just work [14:30] Do I have to setup libertine? [14:30] no [14:31] as i said, if it doesn't just work so that you get display on your external monitor, then it's almost certainly an issue with the hardware [14:31] Okay. Thanks alot Rodney. [14:32] Yeah. I guess so 😢. too bad. [14:32] which adapter did you buy? [14:47] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/f640SP0S.png [14:47] vladislav00h was added by: vladislav00h [14:48] Not sure if it's fake or not. [14:48] Around 20usd [14:49] Tried on TV and monitor. … Tried 2 Hdmi cables [14:49] Kiss from Russia and thank you all for your work [14:49] Probably fake :D [14:51] Don't have other device that support mhl, so can't try it on other device. [14:52] @dokie80 [Don't have other device that support mhl, so can't try it on other device.], do you have another micro-B plug device that supports slimport and has android on it? [15:12] Nope. [15:12] @dokie80 [Don't have other device that support mhl, so can't try it on other device.], Sorry I mean support slimport [15:12] I got S7 edge and nexus5 only [15:15] Maybe I'll try n5 on android first later. [15:35] GregoryMcOver was added by: GregoryMcOver [15:46] try a shorter hdmi cable and also connect a power to the slimport adapter [15:47] it's reall tricky to make it works because many factors that can be the reason why it's not working. [16:04] @dokie80 [Tried on TV and monitor. … Tried 2 Hdmi cables], There are two different HDMI to micro USB standards IIRC. Maybe you need the other one? [16:05] Or need an external power source. Might be wonky without it. [16:06] @pv_bl [There are two different HDMI to micro USB standards IIRC. Maybe you need the oth …], The Nexus 5 is Slimport, and that adapter says "Slimport" on it [16:07] Hello, somebody can help me with a build of Ubuntu touch ? [16:08] @GregoryMcOver [Hello, somebody can help me with a build of Ubuntu touch ?], Please put a more specific question, that sounds really generic ^^ [16:09] @Javacookies [try a shorter hdmi cable and also connect a power to the slimport adapter], I did connect the power. No shorter Hdmi tho. [16:11] I have a huawei bahl 09, bootloader unlocked. There is a sourse on linageos 16. I would like to build an ubuntu build, but I don't know how [16:12] @GregoryMcOver [I have a huawei bahl 09, bootloader unlocked. There is a sourse on linageos 16. …], Well not so easy, you need in fact to port for your device, it needs kernel modifications as well as glue-scripting hardware enablement, trying out 1000 things that might fail etc. It can take weeks to months to get 100% working. Just sayi [16:12] ng what to expect [16:12] Here is the start of the guide: http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html [16:14] @dokie80 [I did connect the power. No shorter Hdmi tho.], I see, then perhaps try a different TV/monitor or try plugging out and in thr slimport … or try different combination of which port to plug in first [16:15] I have 2 Nexus 5 and I think more than 5 slimport adapters and it can be tricky make it work 😅 [16:15] @Flohack [Well not so easy, you need in fact to port for your device, it needs kernel modi …], As far as I understand, I have already tried to compile the kernel for nethunter. fail. I think it won't work here either? [16:16] D [16:16] Depends. Official LineageOS kernels should build without issues. I never saw any problems with that [16:16] If you want to know for sure then first try to build LineageOS yourself, before trying to port [16:17] @dokie80 [I did connect the power. No shorter Hdmi tho.], are you using actual computer monitor, or a TV or such for this? [16:17] Both [16:18] Tried on TV and monitor with no success [16:18] The thing is, I'm from Russia. And I don't really understand you [16:21] thx you for advice [16:21] @GregoryMcOver [The thing is, I'm from Russia. And I don't really understand you], We have a Russian language group they might be able to help [16:22] Try https://t.me/UBports_Ru [16:26] thx [16:55] Not working on stock firmware too 😅 [17:04] abbi_lyn was added by: abbi_lyn [17:35] hmm, I wonder why reinstall all apps won't actually reinstall all apps … there select apps that don't get included [17:35] they are not available for arm64? [17:45] how hard is to to compile an app for arm64? I'm missing a next cloud sync like ubsync ( i think that's what it was called) would provide [17:49] @Dark_Thaddeus [how hard is to to compile an app for arm64? I'm missing a next cloud sync like …], if there's a working click package, should be a matter of passing -arch arm64 to clickable or so [17:50] @mzanetti [if there's a working click package, should be a matter of passing -arch arm64 to …], oh sweet . /me goes n googles [17:53] @dohbee [they are not available for arm64?], they do, I just needed to reinstall them via openstore [17:57] @Dark_Thaddeus [how hard is to to compile an app for arm64? I'm missing a next cloud sync like …], oh I didn't know ubsync isn't available on arm64. I also need it....hmmm....looks like I'm missing a number of apps switching to arm64 😅 [17:58] How do I remove all the extra languages and that in Ubuntu touch? [17:59] You don't. Unless you're modifying the rootfs and don't care anyway, then `apt remove` the language packs. They'll be put back whenever they change on an update though. [18:00] Yeah i understand they'll be added, I need space for Firefox xD [18:00] Does Firefox in the rootfs work in a way that Firefox in Libertine does not? [18:00] Idk [18:00] Libertine crashes my phone [18:00] I suspect that there will be no difference, but good luck [18:01] Any app? [18:01] @UniversalSuperBox [Any app?], ? [18:02] Does any application in Libertine crash your phone? [18:02] If you need space and you're happy to mess around with the rootfs, why not extend it. Then you won't have a problem longer-term. [18:02] [Edit] If you need space and you're happy to mess around with the rootfs, why not extend it? Then you won't have a problem longer-term. [18:02] @UniversalSuperBox [Does any application in Libertine crash your phone?], No libertine never installs [18:02] Settings crashea [18:02] @imraniqbal [If you need space and you're happy to mess around with the rootfs, why not exten …], 8 GB storage :( [18:03] You could extend to say 3GB and leave yourself 5GB instead of 6GB... [18:03] @imraniqbal [You could extend to say 3GB and leave yourself 5GB instead of 6GB...], I might do that [18:03] Does it work on bq e4.5 [18:04] That I don't know, depends on the partitioning scheme. [18:04] @imraniqbal [That I don't know, depends on the partitioning scheme.], OK [18:05] This was the post I used: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1326/help-resizing-the-root-partitiion. Not recommended for general users. [18:05] @imraniqbal [This was the post I used: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1326/help-resizing-th …], IDC lmao [18:05] I use arch btw [18:06] I think it's more complicated on the bq E5 … If I'm not mistaken bq devices and Meizu use real partitions instead of loopbacks like on Nexus 5 [18:07] @Javacookies [I think it's more complicated on the bq E5 … If I'm not mistaken bq devices and Me …], Yes, that's the partitioning situation that I must have heard about. [18:08] Ota-13 on Dora many apps don't open, anyone similar experience? [18:09] @alexmigf [Ota-13 on Dora many apps don't open, anyone similar experience?], if you were using armhf rootfs before and switched to stable arm64 channel now, you will need to use the previosly mentioned "reinstall all apps" feature in system settings [18:09] @dohbee [if you were using armhf rootfs before and switched to stable arm64 channel now, …], Ok, I will try that, thanks [18:20] @jonny [If you had an armhf system installed before you need to reinstall all apps. Ther …], I I installed the OTA-13 and reinstalled the apps, this is the list of the ones that don't work: … - bluetooth; … - ebay italy (not important); … - camera (and I don't understand why since it works with the tagger and digilevel apps); … [18:20] - gitlab (not important); … - instagraph; … - kaidan; … - pockit; … - twitter-web. … I also add that it is impossible to do the speakerphone with the app for phone calls. [18:25] bluetooth file transfer needs to be recompiled for arm64 source at https://github.com/floop2/ubtd [18:25] i presume its the same with the rest of that list [18:26] some are probably oxide, which i think doesn't exist on arm64 [18:26] @Fuseteam [bluetooth file transfer needs to be recompiled for arm64 source at https://githu …], seems the click manifest is already fine for that... should be just running it through clickable indeed [18:27] Libertine status: Removed [18:27] What? [18:27] I give up [18:27] eh? [18:27] Too much effort for a better browser tbh [18:27] "better browser", right [18:28] I prefer firefox [18:29] you're going to need to do a lot more work than using libertine, to get a properly usable Firefox on UT [18:29] @BigRockLonelyWolf [I I installed the OTA-13 and reinstalled the apps, this is the list of the ones …], You could remove those and install them again via OpenStore. If OpenStore does not find one, then an arm64 click for that app was not provided by the maintainer. [18:29] me too but i think the best way would be to run firefox through clickable and adapt its interface [18:29] @dohbee [you're going to need to do a lot more work than using libertine, to get a proper …], I know [18:29] @Fuseteam [me too but i think the best way would be to run firefox through clickable and ad …], Yeah but I lazy [18:29] Idk how to click able [18:29] I know apt xD [18:30] it's fairly easy tbh, once you get it building that is [18:30] @Fuseteam [it's fairly easy tbh, once you get it building that is], Lol [18:30] I about to lose wifi [18:30] Speak later xD [18:30] i have tried several like https://gitlab.com/fusekai/Surfer [18:30] but uhhh no dice yet hehe [18:31] [Edit] but uhhh no dice yet hehehehe [18:33] I don't see how firefox will be better … Sure it has more features than morph but its UI isn't mobile optomized … distors on the pinephone try to make it fit and usable and I think it's still not good [18:34] @BigRockLonelyWolf [I I installed the OTA-13 and reinstalled the apps, this is the list of the ones …], some don't have arm64 builds and some use oxide (old webengine) so they won't work anymore [18:34] yeah the UI is probably the final hurdle tbh [18:34] first the click then the rest xD [18:35] @Javacookies [some don't have arm64 builds and some use oxide (old webengine) so they won't wo …], which webengine is is used nowadays? [18:35] qtwebengine [18:35] besides even if firefox is installable morph is not removable [18:36] I think porting apps from Oxide to WebView shouldn't be too hard. IIRC the api was 80% the same... Message passing was a little bit different [18:36] but it's been a while [18:37] @Javacookies [I don't see how firefox will be better … Sure it has more features than morph but …], I wonder why none of distros tried to run it in Kiosk mode and ressurect FirefoxOS/B2G UI [18:37] yeah, I think it'll be quite easy but I guess most of the ones that still use oxide are the "abandoned" ones [18:38] @NotKit [I wonder why none of distros tried to run it in Kiosk mode and ressurect Firefox …], mayba that was removed already? I don't know.... [18:39] oh well, I guess with OTA 13 released and more arm64 devices, there will be effort to bring older apps to arm64. It's just a matter of someone starting it 😄 [18:46] ubports on Pinephone is quite interesting !! [18:46] Just got it started from an sdcard [18:49] @Javacookies [oh well, I guess with OTA 13 released and more arm64 devices, there will be effo …], Thats why Android has java, no one gives a f about arch and its much easier for devs (for simple apps) [18:50] Also we do not support older sdks, so apps need to be constantly recompiled we should change this in the future [18:59] And between Nexus 4 and 5 what Is better? How UT runs? [18:59]