[14:27] <cpaelzer> o/
[14:29] <cpaelzer> preping for doko didrocks ddstreet sarnold jamespage
[14:29] <ddstreet> o/
[14:29] <cpaelzer> extra ping for jamespage :-) as the OS-teams open cases are mostly what is left atm
[14:29] <cpaelzer> anyway 60 more sec to wait for the meeting :-)
[14:30] <jamespage> hi
[14:30] <sarnold> good morning
[14:30] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
[14:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 22 14:30:19 2020 UTC.  The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:30] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:30] <cpaelzer> no open actions other than package reviews which will be covered later
[14:30] <cpaelzer> never the less thanks ddstreet for contiuously improving my review template
[14:31] <cpaelzer> I have updated the wiki as well at
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess?action=show&redirect=MIRTeam#MIR_review_template
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:31] <cpaelzer> all usual suspects
[14:31] <cpaelzer> we know lintian * is on doko
[14:31] <cpaelzer> ipp-usb waits for seucrity review
[14:31] <cpaelzer> google-guest-agent is ongoing
[14:31] <cpaelzer> really "new" we have arpparmor
[14:32] <cpaelzer> which is a recent FFe ack and now on 3.0 in groovy
[14:32] <cpaelzer> sarnold: do you happen to know if the plan is to MIR and promote or to cut these dependencies?
[14:33] <sarnold> cpaelzer: oof, sorry, these new deps are news to me :( no idea.
[14:33] <cpaelzer> ok sarnold, could you pass them on so the others are aware?
[14:33] <cpaelzer> and then - hence I double pinged jamepage the long list of masakari, cinder, octavia*
[14:33] <cpaelzer> jamespage: and ETA on those
[14:34] <cpaelzer> I'm fine if you don't need them in groovy, but if you do time is soon runnign out
[14:34] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer
[14:34] <doko> lintian: needs one MIR for a package which is not maintained by the perl group
[14:35] <cpaelzer> "discount" ?
[14:35] <doko> and I wonder if we should just let lintian migrate to universe ...
[14:35] <doko> yes
[14:35] <cpaelzer> doko: while I see you - do you tihnk you could get to the mdevctl MIR review that we have assigned a while ago?
[14:36] <doko> looking
[14:36] <cpaelzer> jamespage: ^^ before we go on - statement on the question above ^^ ?
[14:36] <doko> ok, doing that later
[14:37] <cpaelzer> thanks doko
[14:38] <cpaelzer> jamespage: let us know later about the target release, going on with the agenda now
[14:38] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[14:38] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:38] <cpaelzer> no new except OEM bugs
[14:38] <cpaelzer> Laney: about these oem MIR bugs, when will they get out of the queue?
[14:39] <cpaelzer> some in there are two months old, will they be closed once things get in or what is the end of their live-cycle?
[14:39] <cpaelzer> moving on here
[14:39] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[14:39] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:39] <Laney> moving on or want an answer? :p
[14:39] <cpaelzer> thanks for all of you who reviewed MIR requests this week
[14:39] <cpaelzer> Laney: you can answer at any time before we close
[14:39] <cpaelzer> not that strict of an agenda structure :-)
[14:40] <Laney> ok, I don't have a timeline, but do you want to be subscribed to these at all?
[14:40] <Laney> we could maybe skip that
[14:40] <cpaelzer> no Laney I think we don't want to as they fall under this special process that was defined for them
[14:40] <cpaelzer> that woudl clear our view onto other things
[14:40] <Laney> ok
[14:41] <Laney> so feel free to unsubscribe!
[14:41] <cpaelzer> will do - thanks Laney
[14:41] <cpaelzer> there is no incomplete bug waiting on us, all back to the reporters with various todos
[14:41] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[14:41] <ddstreet> o/
[14:42] <ddstreet> one quick question, one of the review items is "TODO: - not part of the UI for extra checks"
[14:42] <ddstreet> however, if a pkg does have a GUI component, what are the "extra checks"?
[14:42] <ddstreet> does the desktop team need to review it?
[14:42] <cpaelzer> ddstreet: the wiki has a small section on what this is about, mostly layout things
[14:43] <cpaelzer> I happened to ask the desktop team the one time I had such a case
[14:43] <ddstreet> ok thanks
[14:43] <cpaelzer> UI standards: (generally only for user-facing applications)
[14:43] <cpaelzer> End-user applications must be internationalized (translatable), using the standard intltool/gettext build and runtime system and produce a proper PO template during build.
[14:43] <cpaelzer> End-user applications must ship a standard conformant desktop file.
[14:43] <cpaelzer> that is from the wiki
[14:44] <cpaelzer> .desktop file we all can check for
[14:44] <cpaelzer> the internationalization strongly depends on the loos term "end user"
[14:44] <ddstreet> ack, thanks!
[14:44] <cpaelzer> so far I have (not the rule) considered things for skilled admins not "end users" in that sense as so much ther eis on english that I thought I can assume that
[14:45] <cpaelzer> but "simple usb formatter" UI tool - that I'd want translated
[14:46] <cpaelzer> In unsubscribed us from the OEM bugs now
[14:46] <cpaelzer> out of topics for today I guess
[14:47] <cpaelzer> thanks everyone
[14:47] <cpaelzer> o/
[14:47] <ddstreet> thanks o/
[14:47] <sarnold> woo, thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[14:47] <cpaelzer> jamespage: feel free to let me know the target release later on
[14:47] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[14:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 14:47:27 2020 UTC.
[14:47] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-09-22-14.30.moin.txt
[14:48] <jamespage> cpaelzer: ack - will do but I think generally those where for this cycle but I'll double check
[14:52] <jamespage> cpaelzer: octavia-* target was 20.10
[14:52] <jamespage> I've marked MIR team only reviews as Fix Commited - pending some security reviews still
[14:53] <jamespage> ditto on python-sqlalchemy-utils
[14:53] <jamespage> and python-zstd is new
[14:54] <cpaelzer> ok - thanks jamespage
[16:44] <ItzSwirlz> It still said DMB Meeting | Review actions. Fixed it
[16:44] <ItzSwirlz> I don't know if meetinology is broken but /shrug