[11:38] <cmaloney> morning
[14:45] <jrwren> good morning
[14:49] <cmaloney> good morling
[14:53] <jrwren> are we having fun yet?
[14:54] <cmaloney> I think so
[15:18] <_stink_> letme check
[15:18] <_stink_> no
[15:58] <greg-g> not quite
[15:59] <greg-g> my joke on mastodon didn't get very good traction yesterday. It came to me while making lunch:
[15:59] <greg-g> Free range chicken in New Hampshire:
[15:59] <greg-g> "Live Free and Die"
[16:00] <greg-g> it'd be a good name for a chicken farm. As would "Live Free and Dye" for a tie-dye shirt store
[16:01] <jrwren> you moving to NH?
[16:03] <_stink_> i like it greg-g
[16:03] <_stink_> but if you  heard some of the jokes i make you might not be flattered
[16:03] <greg-g> jrwren: heh, nope, if I had to move to the NE, it'd be Vermont.
[16:03] <greg-g> _stink_: I... thanks :)
[16:04] <greg-g> jrwren: all of the mom's FB groups carrie is from northern CA are all full of people fleeing and moving to Vermont or somewhere else without fires :/
[16:05] <greg-g> covid (aka working from home) and major fire season == tons of people wanting to move
[16:07] <jrwren> about time.
[16:11] <greg-g> :P
[16:12] <greg-g> luckily the house down the street, in a much less desirable location, just sold for $300k more than what we spent on ours. It was just recently renovated after years of renting it out. Nothing really special. A 2bed 1 bath plus a studio ADU. We don't have the ADU, but I plan to build an office/shed in the back.
[16:13] <greg-g> so maybe we should finish up our shit and just move now, only a year after buying....
[16:13] <jrwren> best do it now before teh whole RE market goes south in cali.
[16:14] <jrwren> once people realize they can buy a palace for the same price in the midwest, on a lake, why would anyone live in cali?
[16:14] <jrwren> assuming their FAANG employer will pay them the same salary.
[16:19] <greg-g> they won't
[16:19] <greg-g> we don't
[16:19] <greg-g> we have 3 levels of pay for the US: SF/NYC, Portland/Seattle/Denver/some other cities, Everywhere-else
[16:20] <greg-g> 100%, ~90%, and ~82%, respectively
[16:20] <jrwren> oh, so not HUGE
[16:20] <greg-g> but, moving to eg: Nevada would instantly save me 10% in state taxes, so.....
[16:21] <jrwren> using those adjustments, a FAANG base salary of 200 still translates to a nice 164k midwest
[16:21] <jrwren> haha... I know a guy who spent a few years ain Cali... then a few years in Neveda and is now back in AA
[16:21] <greg-g> yeah, I could survive in MI :)
[16:21] <jrwren> well, Ann Arbor.
[16:21] <greg-g> That'd be our move if we did it: exburb of A2
[16:21] <jrwren> the rest of MI is a lot cheaper.
[16:22] <greg-g> Carrie's parents live in Chelsea, sister in south ypsi, so A2 would be ideal
[16:22] <jrwren> both beautiful places.
[16:23] <jrwren> south ypsi, or ypsi township?
[16:23] <greg-g> uh, probably township
[16:23] <greg-g> some little developed neighborhood with cookie-cutter homes built probably 20 years ago
[16:23] <jrwren> actually... looks like Troy housing prices are about on par with Ann Arbor now. Crazy.
[16:24] <jrwren> yeah, one of the teachers at our elementary school lives in that neighborhood, or a close one. :)
[16:24] <greg-g> I think this one: https://goo.gl/maps/mCRxNThWR13WvqSw9
[16:25] <jrwren> I get my maple syrup from a farm on south edge of Chelsea... better than anything from vermont :P
[16:25] <greg-g> hah, nice
[16:25] <greg-g> yeah, her parents live in a "cabin" of sorts on a private gravel road with 2-5 acre lots. Too bad it's all sandy soil.
[16:26] <greg-g> I mean, that's the only real downside. That and the high voltage power lines
[16:26] <jrwren> yeah?
[16:26] <jrwren> you can grow that soil into something great in a few yrs time :)
[16:26] <greg-g> true true, truck in some poop!
[16:27] <jrwren> get some chickens and let them poop :)
[16:27] <greg-g> heh, it does have an HOA of sorts, would have to figure out the rules.
[16:28] <jrwren> ah, bumme.
[16:28] <jrwren> wait... ypsi or the chelsea place?
[16:28] <greg-g> there's a "road committee" or something. You pay for maintenance. Not actually sure about other rules honestly.
[16:28] <greg-g> chelsea
[16:28] <jrwren> ah, cool.
[16:28] <greg-g> west of downtown chelsea, about 3/4 of the way to where that road (A2-Ypsi) hits 94 again
[16:28] <jrwren> yeah, one of my daughters friends lives on a place like that just north of ypsi right along the huron.
[16:29] <greg-g> er, A2-Dexter, not A2-Ypsi road
[16:30] <jrwren> west or east?
[16:30] <jrwren> i see waht you mean... looking at map... Cavanaugh Lake Rd?
[16:30] <jrwren> right along the rail tracks?
[16:32] <greg-g> actually no, off of 12 (I forgot it was 12). Between 12 and the railroad tracks.
[16:33] <greg-g> I can find my way around, I just forget the names :)
[16:33] <jrwren> cool
[16:33] <greg-g> near that river thing on the map, but it's not much of a river more of a swamp
[16:38] <jrwren> much highway noise there?
[16:40] <jrwren> my dream is to get rich and buy a farm in the area :)
[16:41] <jrwren> but... it is just a sillly dream
[16:45] <greg-g> I remember there bit some yeah
[16:45] <greg-g> their house is on the highest point in that neighborhood, so they get it the worst.
[16:45] <greg-g> (they aren't rich, far from it, but they were able to retire at least. He worked shipping at a chemical supply place, she was an instructor at WCC)
[16:46] <jrwren> oh yeah, I didn't mean to imply they were rich. I'm saying I want to be a rich hobbyiest farmer ;)
[16:47] <greg-g> oh, I was actually replying to my point about them being on the top of the hill ;)
[16:49] <jrwren> ha!
[16:49] <jrwren> i'm at the top of a hill in a subdivision.
[16:49] <jrwren> It is kinda annoying, I can hear too much stuff from the neighborhood.
[16:50] <greg-g> :)
[18:03] <Scary_Guy> There's a salon around here called "Curl up and Dye." Always thought that was cute.
[18:05] <greg-g> heh
[19:00] <jrwren> so I just switched from comcast business to ATT fiber gigabit. I get 770/289 says speedtest on a fast workstation behind my router/server.  my wifi laptop still 94/94 because wifi and it is old and slow :slightly_smiling_face:
[19:02] <Scary_Guy> Yeah but I hate both those companies.
[19:04] <greg-g> I was so sad that I had to move from Petaluma before they got Sonic fiber :( Sonic.net is good people.
[19:04] <greg-g> now I'm on Spectrum, :(
[19:08] <jrwren> I mean... ATT owns HBO. lul
[20:41] <Scary_Guy> I can do without that too.  Even more reason to pirate GoT :P
[20:52] <jrwren> ARGH!!! GET THAT STEERING WHEEL OUTTA MY PANTS. YUR DRIVIN ME NUTS
[21:02] <_stink_> + .5 only