[08:29] <Ploppz> Hi! I'm on Arch Linux , not Ubuntu Studio, but I'm trying to get Studio Controls to work, and I guess I could get help with that in this channel? When I try to "Fix Real Time Permissions" I get this message https://i.imgur.com/BdXOx5P.png and I honestly have no idea exactly what it's looking at that I have changed? I might have very well done some
[08:29] <Ploppz> changes but I can't exactly enumerate everything I have done - I made some changes to make Jack work through Cadence.
[08:29] <Ploppz> So I'm just wondering what could it be that it's complaining about
[14:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ploppz: Cadence and Studio Controls are 100% incompatible with each other, down to the settings. They conflict. Running Cadence at all will mess-up Studio Controls. There's really no way to help you fix it. Also, that error is normal if either 1) the current user isn't part of the audio group, or 2) /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is missing. Also, because Arch's package is unofficial, we cannot support it.
[15:22] <ajan> Hi all, I would like to ask if it's a relatively straightforward upgrade to the 20.10 development release now or should I expect some extensive headaches and several days of fixing things. I ask this because of the new release being based on KDE.
[15:41] <Ploppz> Thanks Eickmeyer ! Creating that file (with appropriate contents) fixed it!
[15:42] <Ploppz> Does Studio Controls support PulseAudio-Jack bridge like Cadence does? (I'm switching from Cadence to Studio Controls)
[15:45] <Ploppz> dumb question after inspecting the UI, sorry!
[17:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> ajan: Upgrades to 20.10 are and will be completely unsupported due to the change in desktop environment.
[17:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> backup/clean install is the only supported method for upgrading to 20.10.
[17:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> ploppz: Studio Controls should have made that file for you. If it didn't, then there's an error in the packaging and it needs to be reported to the AUR packager.
[18:08] <Ploppz> Thanks I will do
[19:42] <Ploppz> When I press "Start or Restart Jack" nothing happens. How can I see logs to figure out what went wrong?
[19:54] <Ploppz> the only thing I could find is Cadence-Logs but a certain someone said that cadence is not compatible with studio controls so I'm not so sure...
[20:01] <OvenWerks> Ploppz: in the system tab set debug to Extra and find the log file in ~/.log/autojack.log
[20:03] <Ploppz> I rebooted, and now it says "Jack status: unknown". OvenWerks I tried that, but when I "Start or Restart Jack" nothing happens, and nothing shows up in the logs
[20:03] <Ploppz> oh wait, there is a defunct process now https://bpa.st/3ABA
[20:05] <Ploppz> Here are the logs I had before btw https://bpa.st/XCMA . So due to these logs, I installed `libffado`. And after that I just got this weird behaviour
[20:13] <Ploppz> What is "FireWire Module select"? I have never dealt with FireWire before. I feel like this is the reason nothing works?
[20:14] <Ploppz> Because after I installed `libffado` nothing works at all, and before that, it complained about missing ffado libraries....
[20:18] <Ploppz> Can I ask Cadence questions here? I'm giving up on Studio Controls and I guess I should go back to Cadence. But the reason I'm doing this switch at all is a weird behaviour from Cadence that does not let me run it with 96kHz sample rate (my motherboard does NOT work with lower frequency). Earlier it was all fine then suddenly.. I select 96kHz sample rate in cadence but when it starts it just ignores that and always
[20:18] <Ploppz> starts with 48kHz
[20:40] <OvenWerks> if you have ever used cadence before controls will not work right.  Uninstalling cadence does not remove everything
[20:41] <OvenWerks> you can't switch back and forth... in fact if cadence is installed studio-controls shoud refuse to install. The package is broken otherwise
[20:42] <OvenWerks> you can ask cadence questions about cadence but I have found trouble shooting cadence very difficult.... which is why ubuntustudio gave up on it. too hard to support
[20:43] <OvenWerks> maybe ask on #kxstudio
[20:45] <Ploppz> Hm, I see. I was not planning to switch back and forth initially, just to go to Studio Controls. But only the fact that Cadence is _installed_ is bad? "Uninstalling cadence does not remove everything" so what do I have to do?
[20:46] <OvenWerks> so a few problems right off. The arch studio-controls package is broken, cadence has made system changes that will make studio-controls not work, unless you actually have a firewire interface, that should be turned off. Most FW devices work quite well as alsa devices these days.
[20:46] <OvenWerks> to find out what extra files Cadence creates in your home directory maybe ask in #kxstudio.
[20:47] <OvenWerks> or maybe just use cadence as is
[20:48] <OvenWerks> cadence is not a bad program and has worked well for lots of people
[22:04] <Ploppz> for FireWire module I could not select "none". Only either Alsa or ffado driver. Anyway hmm I will inquire more in kxstudio, thanks!
[22:56] <OvenWerks> Ploppz: alsa is the selection you want.