[02:34]  * lopta has a cunning plan
[09:55] <manu1511> hello
[09:55] <manu1511> does xubuntu 20.04 still support legacy bios?
[09:55] <manu1511> i don't have uefi
[09:55] <manu1511> legacy bios with dual boot windows 7
[09:56] <xtao> it does
[09:57] <manu1511> cool thanks you, i'll try!
[09:57] <xtao> as i just installed 20.04.1 on a laptop with only legacy bios. it has MBR partition table
[09:58] <xtao> 64 bit only though i believe. they don't do 32 any longer
[09:58] <manu1511> i hope it also offers dual boot option at installation
[09:58] <xtao> never tried to dual boot so not sure about that. but i would be surprised if it didn't deal with it
[09:59] <manu1511> ty alot xtao
[17:50] <Guest18> Hi
[17:50] <ball> Hello Guest18
[17:51] <Guest18> Im on windows 7 and booted into xubuntu 20.04 live, I now want to install it alongside windows 7 which is mbr. But I don't see an option in the installer for it
[17:52] <Guest18> Do I've to partition the disk manually?
[17:52] <ball> I recommend being very careful about dual-booting.
[17:52] <ball> Any reason you can't run Xubuntu in a VM?
[17:52] <Guest18> I'm not the admin
[17:52] <Guest18> :(
[17:53] <diogenes_> Guest18, did you create free space from windows?
[17:53] <ball> If you're not the admin, you probably don't want to be messing with the partitions.
[17:53] <Guest18> diogenes_ I created free space from live with hearted
[17:54] <Guest18> Gparted3
[17:55] <Maik> *offtopic* why do people keep using outdated, EOL (End Of Life) and vulnerable operating system like XP or Windows 7... Move on.
[17:55] <Maik> :)
[17:55] <Guest18> Idk
[17:56] <Guest18> That's why I want to install Xub 20 04
[17:56] <diogenes_> Guest18, if you know what you're doing then mount that space as / and install
[17:56] <ball> Maik: I completely missed the fact it was Windows 7 and not Windows 10.
[17:56] <Guest18> Why does it not offer an option in the install menu?
[17:57] <Guest18> That option only exists when on GPT?
[17:58] <diogenes_> Guest18, that option is always there.
[17:58] <Guest18> Why not on my computer?
[17:58] <diogenes_> you probably used rufus.
[17:58] <Guest18> I've I've mint stick
[17:59] <diogenes_> ?
[17:59] <Guest18> Used mint stick
[17:59] <Guest18> Linux mints USB tool
[17:59] <diogenes_> what is mint stick?
[18:00] <ball> A USB flash drive with Linux Mint on it?
[18:00] <Guest18> No
[18:00] <diogenes_> he said it's Xubuntu.
[18:00] <Guest18> It is preinstalled on mint
[18:00] <ball> That's what I thought but ...people sometimes aren't consistent.
[18:00] <ball> I think Guest18 is saying that he used Mint to image the USB flash stick for Xubuntu
[18:01] <ball> (he or she)
[18:01] <Guest18> Yes
[18:03] <ball> I'm currently trying Xubuntu 20.4.1 on my old Atom 330 box
[18:04] <diogenes_> Guest18, the installer must be there in any case, something went wrong with your installation on the usb drive, try to clean it out and try something like etcher.
[18:08] <ball> I should probably reboot.
[21:17] <asarch> Hi guys! My HP Pavillion X360 doesn't work either the keyboard nor the touchpad if I use the kernels vmlinuz-5.4.0-45, vmlinuz-5.4.0-47 or the newest one, vmlinuz-5.4.0-48. Do you know by chance how to solve this problem?
[21:18] <asarch> I have to use only the kernel vmlinuz-5.4.0-42-generic
[21:19] <lopta> I'm sort of new to Linux.  How do I ask Xubuntu what version of a program is installed?
[21:19] <asarch> Some smart guy has closed this thread: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/problem-laptop-hp-pavilion-x360-with-keyboard-and-touchpad/6115/8
[21:20] <brainwash> asarch: I would keep using the working kernel
[21:21] <diogenes_> and file a bug.
[21:21] <diogenes_> lopta, what exactly?
[21:24] <asarch> Ok. Thank you brainwash
[21:25] <lopta> diogenes_: Blackbox
[21:26] <lopta> (Can't seem to get Xfce4 to work on a virtual VNC desktop)
[21:26] <diogenes_> lopta, many ways: about, programname --version, apt-cache policy progname.
[21:27]  * lopta tries it
[21:27] <lopta> Thanks!
[21:27] <lopta> I have 0.70.1-38
[21:32] <lopta> I wonder what I'm doing wrong with Xfce4
[21:37] <lopta> I shall investigate some more...
[21:38] <lopta> If diogenes_ comes back, please let them know I said thanks for the help.