[01:14] <rjwiii> Hit teh deckkkkkkk ... neeeeeet spliiiiiiiit!!!1
[01:25] <Maik> rjwiii: seriously....
[01:30] <rjwiii> Maik: Sorry ... being overly dramatic ...
[02:46] <lamiastella> gosh why the GUI size is so small on Ubuntu 20.04? I can't even read the items https://askubuntu.com/questions/1278043/how-can-i-make-the-size-of-a-gui-in-ubuntu-larger
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> lamiastella: i dont see that software on apt or snap, where did you install it from?
[03:07] <lamiastella> did you see this link in the question? https://github.com/DeepLabCut/DeepLabCut-live/issues/23
[03:07] <lamiastella> it is a GUI called dlclivegui from the DeepLabCut-Live package lotuspsychje
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> lamiastella: then contact the git owner about it please
[03:08] <lamiastella> I wonder how it is not small in the other guy's Ubuntu though he might use a different Ubuntu version
[03:08] <lamiastella> yes I did but I was wondering if it is more of an Ubuntu 20.04 issue like it was here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1262836/why-are-some-gui-fonts-so-small-in-ubuntu-20-04-how-can-i-fix-them
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> lamiastella: the resolution of your desktop depends on what res youve chosen in systemsettings
[03:10] <lamiastella> I don't have problem with any other GUI except this one lotuspsychje
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> lamiastella: your other ubuntu machines have the same screen resolution?
[03:12] <lamiastella> I only have one Ubuntu machine!
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> lamiastella: if you dont have issues with the ratio of other software, the problem lays on deeplabcut right?
[03:22] <lamiastella> I assume so. The thing is I don't have this problem with DeepLabCut GUI itself but with DeepLabCut-Live GUI lotuspsychje
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> lamiastella: file a bug on the maintainers git, or browse the issues section there?
[03:24] <lamiastella> there is no issue as mine and I already filed thanks lotuspsychje
[03:25] <javi404> where should i post my wayland woes?
[03:25] <javi404> i need to fix overscan/underscan
[03:25] <javi404> i need to adjust by pixel, not some predefined "im using a tv" yes / no switch.
[05:53] <jayjo_> I'm having trouble using keepassxc with google drive, just using the GNOME google drive connection. I've found https://github.com/rclone/rclone - is this a good way to go? is there a way to add the drive with /etc/fstab or something like that?
[06:34] <robline> I'm enjoying 20.04 (especially the automatic printer install, nice) but I can't scroll up with my mouse in a terminal session.  It just scrolls through the command history. Any ideas how I can fix that?
[06:35] <robline> If I hold down the shift key and scroll, that works
[06:36] <matsaman> robline: could be one of your SHIFT keys or another modifier key (ALT, CTRL) is stuck
[06:36] <matsaman> give them all a few good taps
[06:36] <matsaman> if that doesn't work, try hitting CTRL+c a few times, then type 'reset', then ENTER
[06:37] <robline> Thanks matsaman.  I have definitely done reset, clear, rebooted, restarted X session, etc
[06:37] <robline> The shift keys respond in xev
[06:37] <matsaman> this is plain Ubuntu 20 flavor?
[06:38] <robline> 20.04 clean install
[06:38] <matsaman> but I mean Ubuntu not Xubuntu or some other flavor
[06:38] <robline> no It is Ubuntu
[06:38] <matsaman> ok
[06:40] <matsaman> probably this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1688528
[06:40] <matsaman> oh sorry that says screen
[06:41] <matsaman> are you using screen or tmux or byobu or something like that?
[06:42] <matsaman> if you run 'killall gnome-terminal' and then start a new terminal, is the behavior the same?
[06:43] <robline> I am not using screen.  Fresh install, standard terminal.  But I will try this command now!
[06:44] <robline> gnome-terminal: no process found
[06:44] <robline> (i entered that into a terminal that was currently running BTW)
[06:46] <robline> I'm reading through the bug report
[06:47] <matsaman> robline: what does 'ps aux | grep -i term' say?
[06:48] <robline> rob         6124  0.0  0.3 829512 53704 ?        Ssl  Sep26   0:14 /usr/libexec/gnome-terminal-server
[06:48] <robline> rob        18028  0.0  0.0  17664  2692 pts/1    S+   02:47   0:00 grep --color=auto -i term
[06:49] <backthen> can terminal windows be saved when I restart?
[06:49] <robline> backthen, saved how?  you mean command history, position, what?
[06:49] <matsaman> robline: okay it might be killall gnome-terminal-server you'd want, to try and kill all the processes and start a new terminal for a test
[06:50] <matsaman> backthen: probably if you tell your DE to restart without closing them, it will do that, or ask you if you want it, etc.
[06:50] <backthen> robline: I have multiple terminal windows open and they have command histories. I'd hate having to reenter them but driver update wants OS to restart
[06:50] <backthen> matsaman: how do I do that
[06:51] <robline> my experience has been that the histories are saved to different buffers.  So for example your "main" terminal will remember what you entered into it, but won't recall waht you typed in ther second
[06:51] <robline> but the second will remember its history
[06:52] <robline> so however many you have open now, you'll need to open that many again
[06:53] <matsaman> history | tee some_file
[06:53] <robline> that's not a promise it will work, just how it has worked for me in the past
[06:53] <matsaman> what driver are we talking about?
[06:53] <backthen> ok sounds like Ubuntu doesn't have an automatic way to do a 'save state' like windows
[06:53] <matsaman> if you make a habit of using screen or tmux or the like, you can restart a whole whole lot of your OS without doing an actual restart, much of the time
[06:54] <matsaman> backthen: as robline says, it's done by default
[06:54] <robline> BTW I ran the killall command again.  It did close the terminal.  I opened another terminal, same issue.  Scrolling the mouse scrolls the command history
[06:54] <matsaman> there's no guarantee you as a human will be able to make sense of it, though
[06:54] <matsaman> robline: ok
[06:56] <matsaman> robline: did you try 'tput rmcup'?
[06:57] <robline> teeing the history is also a great suggestion to be safe
[06:57] <robline> not yet! :)
[06:57] <matsaman> robline: what mouse model is this, BTW?
[06:58] <robline> Logitech MX
[06:58] <robline> i did tput rmcup and now the top line of the output is scrolling through my command history, LOL
[06:59] <matsaman> neat
[06:59] <robline> I appreciate your help BTW
[06:59] <matsaman> this a wireless mouse?
[06:59] <robline> yes it is
[06:59] <matsaman> turn it off and on?
[06:59] <matsaman> remove batteries & reinsert?
[06:59] <robline>  ok hold on
[06:59] <robline> its fully charged
[07:00] <matsaman> oh it's got an internal battery that you can't really remove?
[07:01] <robline> it doesn't have batteries I can remove but I turned it off, it re-synched with solaar, and same deal.  Top line is scrolling through the bash history
[07:01] <matsaman> you could double-check with the 'xev' program that the mousewheel is sending the events it should be
[07:01] <robline> ok hold on
[07:01] <matsaman> oh solaar, forgot about that
[07:01] <robline> anyway it scrolls everywhere else, just not in Terminal
[07:02] <matsaman> that's pretty damning for gnome-terminal
[07:02] <robline> xev output seems fine to me
[07:02] <matsaman> although if you tried another terminal (xterm?), it'd be moreso
[07:02] <robline> I'm not an expert but when I scroll the numbers change
[07:03] <robline> ok, I'll try xterm.  Is it installed by default?
[07:04] <robline> guess not
[07:04] <matsaman> should be a small package
[07:05] <robline> xterm has the same behavior
[07:05] <backthen> looks like the commands are saved upon restart. Just the paths of where I was are lost
[07:05] <robline> backthen yes, that is correct.  It will alsways start you at the system home variable
[07:06] <robline> xterm "knows" my terminal history, interesting
[07:06] <matsaman> well it's your shell history
[07:06] <matsaman> ~/.bash_history and so on
[07:07] <robline> cool I've just not used XTerm before
[07:07] <matsaman> it's a little rudimentary by comparison, but that can also be a plus
[07:07] <matsaman> um, so
[07:07] <robline> yeah it has an early 2000's feel
[07:07] <matsaman> this is at least an X-wide problem, not specific to gnome-terminal
[07:08] <matsaman> or specific to your mouse (or solaar/etc.), one of those things, probably
[07:08] <matsaman> xterm wouldn't care about GNOME-specific prefs, but it might care about X-specific prefs that GNOME has set
[07:09] <matsaman> do you have a nice boring wired mouse you can try with?
[07:10] <robline> oh hey wanna hear something interesting?  Same thing is going on in Xchat right now.  When I scroll, it scrolls through the things I said, but won't scroll back the irc log
[07:10] <robline> matsaman, yes I do.  I'll go get it
[07:11] <matsaman> and if you explicitly click in the non-input pane first?
[07:12] <robline> I am now using a wired mouse.  Other mouse is off.
[07:14] <robline> The behavior is the same.  If I click in the non-input pane and scroll, it scrolls my irc chat history in the input window.  If I click on the pane of usernames and scroll, that scrolls.
[07:14] <jayjo_> I'm looking at the UEFI guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI but mainly I'm just looking at this screenshot: https://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347270285.jpg - I see that this boot menu allows you to boot the same drives using BIOS or using UEFI. What are the "p's" here? P3, P1, P4. What's the order?
[07:15] <robline> I like how you are thinking this through though, I should have tried anothher mouse earlier
[07:17] <matsaman> jayjo_: 'peripheral' maybe? I doubt it matters, it's clearly the dvd drive, and two hard disks
[07:17] <matsaman> jayjo_: things you can boot from
[07:18] <robline> jayjo: to me it looks like you have a pioneer dvd drive, a hitachi hard drive, and a western digital hard drive.  And IEFI is going to use the hitachi to boot.
[07:18] <robline> UEFI I mean
[07:19] <matsaman> jayjo_: or sata "port"
[07:20] <robline> That seems right
[07:21] <robline> well, It's 3am here so I'm going to bed.  Thanks for the ideas, matsaman
[07:21] <matsaman> robline: mmm
[07:21] <matsaman> robline: someone more familiar with GNOME would probably know better than I
[07:22] <matsaman> you could try something much more rudimentary than GNOME to rule GNOME out
[07:22] <matsaman> if it did the same thing outside GNOME altogether, it would definitely be a bug for all GTK+ or X things
[07:22]  * matsaman shrugs
[07:22] <robline> I'll look into that!
[07:48] <he12457> Hello all..... New chatting webpages opened: talkingplace . talk4fun . net and iwanttocommunicate . rf . gd
[09:09] <borisrunak> hello !
[09:10] <_bw> hello
[10:09] <hansh> can someone running a desktop Ubuntu run `which nautilus`  ? (and if that gives no result, run `which Nautilus`  ) ?
[10:10] <hansh> .. and tell me the output
[10:14] <ElNomReal> I think normally it is /usr/bin/nautilus?
[10:26] <hansh> ElNomReal, thanks
[11:13] <Assid> heya
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> welcome Assid
[11:13] <Assid> so i just installed ubuntu .. and my location is middle east.. but even though i have english setup.. i still have things showing up in arabic
[11:14] <Assid> this is on ubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <Assid> why not ASK the user what they want to install instead of assuming
[11:34] <Assid> i cant get xrdp working.. can someone help
[11:34] <Assid> after connecting i just get a blank screen
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:10] <lightshadow> good morning everyone
[14:13] <lightshadow> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "focal" 20.04 • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor (1.89GHz) • Memory: Physical: 30.6 GiB Total (25.4 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 4.8 TB / 18.1 TB (13.3 TB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h •
[14:13] <lightshadow>  Uptime: 12h 9m 6s
[14:14] <lightshadow> I'm facing an issue with Microk8s on Ubuntu
[14:14] <lightshadow> my containers are failling no matter what I do with this error message
[14:14] <lightshadow> kubelet does not have ClusterDNS IP configured and cannot create Pod using "ClusterFirst" policy. Falling back to "Default" policy.
[14:15] <lightshadow> despite I've enable dns, I follow the documentation and seems not working that part, I'm on Ubuntu 20.04
[14:32] <rapidwave> Strange problem. I disabled php 7.0 and enabled 7.2 and now the mod has a syntax error
[14:32] <rapidwave> Things were working and then I upgraded to focal and now this issue
[14:33] <Cyber_Akuma> What command do I have to add to a livecd to make it load entirely into ram? is it --toram before "splash"?
[14:56] <zetheroo> I am having trouble with the touchpad on my Thinkpad T440p after suspend with Ubuntu 20.04. I also have Ubuntu 20.04 running on my T450s and don't have any problems with the touchpad.
[14:58] <zetheroo> The problem happens also in the Ubunto 20.04 LIVE session
[14:58] <zetheroo> After waking from suspend the touchpad/trackpoint is either completed unresponsive or the scrolling doesn't work
[15:00] <zetheroo> I tried the 'modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse' workaround, but it only works sometimes.
[15:18] <jonnj> Oh Assid, you are not here. I have had a similar problem with xrdp. In my case it was the firewall. But I don't know if you have this problem.
[15:28] <hggdh> csop
[15:28] <hggdh> @csop
[15:28] <hggdh> darn, slow today...
[15:52] <xbfrog> i have a 250 gb hard drive connected via usb. Ubuntu 20.04 recognizes it i can see files on it, but when i right click and choose format it does nothing, am i missing something?
[15:54] <tomreyn> which application are you right-clicking on, which graphical desktop?
[15:55] <tomreyn> and which file system is it formatted to?
[16:02] <xbfrog> yes gui
[16:03] <xbfrog> dont know how to answer that quesiton
[16:03] <xbfrog> file system that came standard witht the os
[16:04] <xbfrog> google says ext4 filesistem
[16:06] <xbfrog> i only use terminal commands sparringly and when i have to. not so comfortable with terminal
[16:09] <leftyfb> xbfrog: use gparted (you might have to install it)
[16:10] <xbfrog> ok thanks
[16:16] <xbfrog> i dont think gparted sees it
[16:19] <tomreyn> xbfrog: select the disk ont he top right first of all
[16:19] <xbfrog> all gparted sees is my laptop hd, doesnt see my usb 2tb storage
[16:20] <xbfrog> or the usb 520
[16:20] <tomreyn> so those aren't listed on the drop-down?
[16:20] <xbfrog> no
[16:20] <xbfrog> only the laptop hd
[16:21] <tomreyn> are you using the default X(org) X server or XWayland?
[16:22] <xbfrog> dont know how to tell you.
[16:22] <tomreyn> if you can't answer this: are you using the default Ubuntu (not another flavour such as Xubuntu, Kubuntu, ...) graphical desktop?
[16:22] <xbfrog> default ubuntu with gnome
[16:23] <tomreyn> hmm, not sure then. pressing ctrl-r will make gparted re-read the list of available devices - give it a try.
[16:23] <xbfrog> ok
[16:25] <xbfrog> nothing changed
[16:27] <xbfrog> i have /dev/sda1 EFI system partition fat 32 512mib and /dev/sda2 ext4/ 931GiB
[16:28] <tomreyn> i can't think of other ways to make this workable on the GUI. if you want to try on a terminal, start by sharing the output of   lsblk -o +MODEL   and    blkid
[16:28] <tomreyn> use a !pastebin
[16:29] <xbfrog> ok
[16:31] <pavlos> is there a Disks app in a utilities folder (gnome)? Does disks 'see' the external drive?
[16:31] <monkwitdafunk> does the default ubuntu use x.org?
[16:32] <monkwitdafunk> i love x.org
[16:33] <Maik> yes
[16:34] <Maik> monkwitdafunk: ^^
[16:37] <xbfrog> https://pastebin.com/Re1bThdP
[16:38] <xbfrog> https://pastebin.com/BymJvFb7
[16:40] <tomreyn> xbfrog: so only sda (a western digital (WDC) something) and sdb (likely a Hitachi HDD) are currently seen connected.
[16:41] <xbfrog> ok hitachi is the one i want to format
[16:41] <xbfrog> yes i unplugged the storage
[16:42] <xbfrog> i dont recognize the hitachi in gparted
[16:42] <tomreyn> the hitachi, sdb, has an mbr partition table with two partitions. sdb1 is 512 MB, sdb5 is 232,4 GB.
[16:43] <tomreyn> sdb1 is formatted to (v)FAT, sdb5 is formatted to ext4.
[16:43] <xbfrog> all i see in gparted is for that is fat32/boot/efi 512
[16:44] <xbfrog> no 232.4
[16:44] <xbfrog> and its listed as sda1
[16:45] <tomreyn> or you're mixing things up, since sda is partitioned similarily
[16:46] <xbfrog> ok this hitachi was my former laptop drive
[16:46] <xbfrog> it was switched over to  the sdd drive currently installed
[16:47] <xbfrog> i wanted to format it to be used as a slave drive for another laptop
[16:48] <xbfrog> gparted shows 2 sda's 1 and 2
[16:49] <tomreyn> can you post the url this returns?   ls -1 /dev/disk/by-id/*Hitachi* | grep -v -- '-part' | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:49] <xbfrog> ok
[16:52] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/1ool
[16:54] <tomreyn> xbfrog: so to delete the partition table, and with this, effectively, all the data stored on all partitions on this Hitachi disk - which should only be done when you have current backups - run:   sudo wipefs -a /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Hitachi_HTS723225L9SA60_080816FC1K00NEG2JD4C
[16:56] <xbfrog> right, i dont care about any data on that drive
[16:56] <tomreyn> chances are you'll be able to repartition it in your favourite graphical parittioning tool afterwards
[16:58] <xbfrog> thank you, did i just confuse the drive or what happened ?
[17:03] <xbfrog> ok, i guess i'm still confused. gparted still only sees sda1 fat32 512MiB and sda2 ext4 931 GiB
[17:03] <xbfrog> nothing else listed
[17:04] <Jakethepython> Hello, I have a USB to  serial convertor, what is the easiest way to get Serial messages in terminal just to read the RX port
[17:09] <pavlos> Jakethepython: use putty or minicom
[17:15] <pavlos> Jakethepython: user must be in the dialout group to access /dev/ttyUSB0 (sudo usermod -a -G dialout username)
[17:19] <tomreyn> xbfrog: and you did have it re-read the drive listing, and checked the drop-down field on the top right?
[17:21] <tomreyn> if it remains unlisted, you'll need to use fdisk or parted on the CLI to create a new partition table on /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Hitachi_HTS723225L9SA60_080816FC1K00NEG2JD4C
[17:21] <xbfrog> oh ok
[17:22] <xbfrog> yes and no change
[17:23] <xbfrog> ok
[17:23] <xbfrog> yes its still unlisted
[17:26] <pavlos> can you take a screenshot of gparted and upload it to imgur.com?
[17:26] <tomreyn> maybe gparted will not list removable storages, or defaults to not doing so
[17:27] <xbfrog> mayb i should install this in the laptop i want it in and work from there with no usb cable
[17:28] <xbfrog> it did list my 2tb storage
[17:28] <xbfrog> just not the hitachi odd
[17:28] <xbfrog> ok, i'll try it a diffeent way
[17:28] <xbfrog> thanks for your help
[17:30] <aph11> hello, hope everyones day is going well. I've been struggling for a cpl days trying to set up a way to RDP into an ubuntu VM from my ubuntu desktop. finally got it to work with xfce4, and I get a desktop with icons when I connect, but I cant open a terminal window. when i try there's no response at all. other apps seem to work tho. has anyone had/solved this issue?
[17:30] <transhumanist> hi is there any file system that can run, even as a third party add in for windows that would allow me to access rw to by both windows and linux that supports unix permissions? I was looking at ext2 but unfortunately those windows programs wont run on Windows 10
[17:31] <transhumanist> any help is appreciated, no idea where to ask , its an inbetween question for unix and windows
[17:35] <rfm> aph11, I think that means the session isn't completely set up as some apps expect (in particular no dbus server).  Try running good old xterm (you might have to put it in ~/.xinit, or create a .desktop file for it)
[17:37] <aph11> @rfm: thanks mate, I'll give it a shot
[17:41] <aph11> @rfm: worked like a charm ^_^
[17:43] <pavlos> aph11: I enabled sharing on the VM (uses vnc protocol), installed on my laptop remmina, remmina-plugin-vnc and was able to see the VM
[17:44] <tomreyn> transhumanist: this channel is still only for ubuntu support, not "unix"
[17:44] <tomreyn> and crossposting is still not a good thing.
[17:46] <aph11> @pavlos: I'll give that a shot as well, thanks!
[17:56] <aph11> @pavlos: that works great! appreciate the tip!
[17:56] <bumblefuzz> so, my windows key no longer works to open the main menu
[17:56] <bumblefuzz> and I don't know why it stopped
[17:57] <bumblefuzz> or how to make it work again
[17:58] <transhumanist> its ok I found a solution, its https://www.paragon-software.com/home/linuxfs-windows/ or use of NFS which works with both but is slow
[17:58] <transhumanist> hope this helps someone
[17:58] <transhumanist> both preserve unix permissions
[18:01] <gnUser> What is the difference between a phy0 wireless interface and a wlan0 interface for example?
[18:07] <bumblefuzz> phy0 sounds like ethernet
[18:07] <bumblefuzz> wlan is going to be wireless
[18:09] <gnUser> bumblefuzz, in this case I don't think phy0 referes to ethernet. I am using this command specifically, it adds a new "monitor" interface on a raspberry pi.  sudo iw phy phy0 interface add mon0 type monitor
[18:10] <gnUser> But I am trying to underst and what phy and phy0 are doing there
[18:10] <bumblefuzz> how many NIC's do you have on your device?
[18:11] <gnUser> bumblefuzz, it's a raspbery pi zero so I think only the one wireless "nic"
[18:14] <bumblefuzz> ip a
[18:14] <bumblefuzz> pastebin the output of "ip a"
[18:17] <gnUser> bumblefuzz, coming
[18:19] <gnUser> bumblefuzz, https://dpaste.org/F8Wd
[18:19] <bumblefuzz> "ip a | pastebinit"
[18:19] <bumblefuzz> k
[18:19] <bumblefuzz> snippet doesn't exist
[18:20] <bumblefuzz> try again
[18:20] <gnUser> https://dpaste.org/Zkqy
[18:21] <bumblefuzz> ok so, this only shows 3 interfaces
[18:21] <gnUser> correct
[18:21] <bumblefuzz> where were you finding phy0?
[18:21] <gnUser> https://medium.com/@THESMASHY/raspberry-pi-zero-w-wifi-hacking-gadget-63e3fa1c3c8d
[18:21] <gnUser> ctrl + f this string   iw phy phy0 info
[18:24] <bumblefuzz> ...which I would assume, looking at the output of "ip a" would mean "iw wlan0 info" or something similar
[18:24] <bumblefuzz> phy0 is just the name of the author's interface
[18:24] <bumblefuzz> ...I think
[18:24] <bumblefuzz> you don't have a phy0
[18:24] <gnUser> bumblefuzz, sounds like a reasonable assumption.. now if you ctrl + f for this string     sudo iw phy phy0 interface add mon0 type monitor
[18:25] <gnUser> this is how I add the mon0 interface but I do not know what the phy0 and phy is all about
[18:25] <bumblefuzz> I'm assuming these are the interfaces to be monitored
[18:26] <bumblefuzz> additionally, looking at the output of "ip a" earlier, it appears the mon0 is already up
[18:26] <gnUser> bumblefuzz, yes because I already followed this tutorial. I am trying to understand the command and how it works
[18:26] <gnUser> specifically what phy and phy0 are all about
[18:26] <bumblefuzz> my guess would be you are telling it which interfaces to monitor
[18:27] <gnUser> thanks, I suppose I will need to look into the linux docs and get to the bottom of it
[18:28] <bumblefuzz> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/documentation/iw#adding_interfaces_with_iw
[18:28] <bumblefuzz> when you add a new interface using iw, this is the syntax used
[18:29] <gnUser> thanks for that link
[18:30] <pavlos> aph11: and if you need to access win VM's, install remmina-plugin-rdp
[18:38] <aph11> @pavlos: managed to get RDP for my Win vm working right away. was just struggling with the ubuntu box. VNC wasent working initally which left me struggling with xrdp, but I just needed to install vino which I had overlooked. it's all running smoothly now
[18:43] <NewbieDan> Got a problem trying to get Plasma working on my Ubuntu LTS 20.04 box
[18:46] <NewbieDan> It always refuses to connect to the display, even though the display is just the system console
[18:48] <pavlos> aph11: glad all works.
[18:51] <NewbieDan> anyone got any ideas?
[19:18] <pavlos> NewbieDan: does this help? ... https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-kde-plasma-desktop-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[19:29] <mozzarella>  guys help
[19:32] <mozzarella> my partition has a "total capacity" of 983.4 GB, yet there's only 933.3 GB free and 79.7 MB used, there's a huge chunk that's missing
[19:34] <jeremy31> mozzarella: Might be the ext4
[19:35] <mozzarella> jeremy31: what do you mean?
[19:36] <jeremy31> Space used by journaling
[19:36] <mozzarella> that's still  a huge chunk
[19:36] <jeremy31> https://superuser.com/questions/1439177/what-could-cause-a-freshly-formatted-ext4-partitions-to-have-wildly-different-us
[20:04] <pavlos> mozzarella: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX where X is your device
[20:15] <NewbieDan> pavlos: No Dice on that web site. tasksel dies at file 661 each time I try
[20:17] <dhaniya> hello, I downloaded ubuntu 20.04.1 from the site today and the installer crashed with some libgl error twice, I had install 3rd party software option checked at both times, and i tried disabling the option to download updates while installing but that didn't fix it. Please help.
[20:24] <_Sym_> dhaniya, it might help if you say what the error was
[20:25] <dhaniya> some libglc66 I don't remember exactly but similar to this and it is already a known critical bug i checked that
[20:28] <stevecoh1> hello
[20:30] <stevecoh1> I have an Ubuntu 20.4 system on a laptop.  I wish to replace its hard drive with a SSD.  The computer store where I'm buying the SSD was unable to ghost the hard drive onto the SSD.  There may be bad sectors on the HD or there may be a problem with the boot sector.
[20:32] <stevecoh1> When they tried to ghost it, it created a non-bootable system on the SSD.  They now recommend creating a new installation of Ubuntu on the SSD, copying all the stuff from my HD /home, /etc, /usr/local, etc. to the SSD.  But what about the applications installed there?
[20:32] <pavlos> SSD mfg usually provide free software t oclone hdd->ssd
[20:33] <stevecoh1> #pavlos, thanks, but store didn't mention that.
[20:34] <stevecoh1> What I would like is a way to capture in a script usable by apt all the app installations on my system now, then run that script to bring over the applications.  Is there a way to do that?
[20:39] <pavlos> stevecoh1: https://rescuezilla.com/ ... the last paragraph
[20:41] <stevecoh1> pavlos, thanks, will have a look at rescuezilla
[20:48] <tomreyn> is your ssd larger than your hdd, though?
[20:49] <tomreyn> and is your old installation encrypted?
[20:52] <BarnabasDK> tomreyn, +1 and apt list --installed should give you a list of packages - only I don't know if there is a way to look into the old apt database on the old disk
[20:54] <BarnabasDK> also if your new installation is a newer release of ubuntu some packages may no longer be available
[20:58] <tomreyn> stevecoh1: ^
[21:00] <stevecoh1> #tomreyn how dumb of me not to ask the question.  I will tomorrow.  I was assuming they were the same size, which may or may not be the case.
[21:00] <stevecoh1> #tomreyn old install is not encrypted
[21:01] <stevecoh1> #BarnabasDK "old" install is 20.4.  I just updated fully.  I will make sure they install that onto SSD.
[21:03] <tomreyn> stevecoh1: oh you're having the computer shop do the migration for you, and they're into ubuntu?
[21:04] <stevecoh1> Well, that remains to be seen?  I'm not sure how ubuntu-familiar they are.  They said they were, but the guy I talked to, not the owner, was not.  Gonna have a talk with owner.  With the right tools, I should be able to do it myself if need be.
[21:05] <tomreyn> if the old system can still boot, or they can 'chroot to it', they can do this to backup and restore the list of installed applications: https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages#answers
[21:06] <tomreyn> it's not super simple, though, and could go wrong, of course. and honestly, if i was in their shoes, i would probably not want to offer it.
[21:06] <stevecoh1> BarnabasDK: is there an easy way to convert apt list --installed output to a script that can be run from the command line?
[21:08] <BarnabasDK> stevecoh1, define ease :-D But maybe look at apt-clone first. Did not know of that one
[21:08] <BarnabasDK> seems that thing can read a db with a different source folder and do a restore
[21:08] <BarnabasDK> in the ubuntu repo
[21:09] <BarnabasDK> https://sarata.com/manpages/apt-clone.8.html
[21:12] <stevecoh1> BarnabasDK: apt-clone looks like the way to go.  Thanks.
[21:12] <Hash> I have ubuntu 18.04 installed and working. I want to upgrade to 20lts
[21:13] <Hash> https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-20-04-lts-today
[21:13] <Hash> I found this
[21:14] <pyzozord> hello I don't have kinetic scrolling in chromium when using my touchpad, can someone help
[21:14] <tomreyn> Hash: do you have a question?
[21:15] <Hash> Is it safe to do so?
[21:15] <Hash> What is the success rate people usually have?
[21:15] <BarnabasDK> Hash, 100% if they have a backup
[21:15] <tomreyn> that's if you consider restoring a backup to count towards 100%
[21:16] <Hash> I considered that.
[21:16] <Hash> I'll give it a go after making backup
[21:17] <BarnabasDK> tomreyn, true
[21:17] <tomreyn> Hash: note that this article describes a way to upgrade before the upgrade path is officially supported.
[21:20] <Hash> How can I boot 20lts iso using grub and give it a go?
[21:20] <Hash> Without using a usb. It's much faster off ssd
[21:20] <Hash> Is there a official tutorial for it
[21:22] <tomreyn> the article you linked above does not involve an 20.04 LTS .ISO file.
[21:22] <Hash> Correct.
[21:22] <Hash> It's for an upgrade. I'm asking a totally new question
[21:22] <aph11> @Hash: if you wat to try ou the live version you'll need to boot from some external media as far as I know
[21:23] <tomreyn> supposedly, grub can boot off iso images, but they need to be a in a specific format, and i don't knwo whether this one is (I assume not).
[21:23] <Hash> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot does this apply to a 20.04 iso?
[21:23] <Hash> file path locations etc.
[21:24] <Hash> IOW, is this article current?
[21:24] <Hash> Seems like you just tell grub to mount the iso and get the kernel and the ramdisk and boot them
[21:26] <tomreyn> ah, nio-wiklund updated it with instructions to boot the 20.04 LTS iso in uefi mode, nice.
[21:27] <stevecoh1> alas apt-clone has some issues
[21:28] <stevecoh1> $ sudo apt-clone clone /backupnot installable: libwxgtk3.0-0v5, libbrlapi0.6, oracle-java8-set-default, zoom, iscan-data, oracle-java8-installerversion mismatch: ubuntu-drivers-commonNote that you can use --with-dpkg-repack to include those packges in the clone file.
[21:28] <stevecoh1> but it doesn't work with --with-dpkg-repack  either
[21:29] <stevecoh1> aside from zoom (how did we ever live without it) I might not care.
[21:32] <BarnabasDK> stevecoh1, have they been removed from the repo to 20.01 ? search for one of them here https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libwxgtk3.0-0v5
[21:33] <BarnabasDK> seems the version has been bumped https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libwxgtk3
[21:35] <stevecoh1> blaah.  So what would my strategy be?  update the package first?
[21:36] <stevecoh1> And if so, why didn't the update I just did provide it?
[21:37] <BarnabasDK> stevecoh1, I think because the package changed name from ibwxgtk3.0-0v5 to libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5
[21:39] <tomreyn> libwxgtk3.0-0v5, despite the name, seems to dpend on gtk2, whereas libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 depends on gtk3. the former does not seem to been available in focal ever, should have been removed by the release upgrade. but then, the release upgrader from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS is not considered stable, yet.
[21:40] <tomreyn> or not yet supported, anyways
[21:43] <stevecoh1> OK, seems like I see a path forward.  Was able to handle libwxgtk3 Just go through this short list and upgrade each one manually first.  Or is this asking for trouble?
[21:43] <BarnabasDK> if you are on a running 20.01 LTS I guess libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 is installed already - and the old one should be safe to ignore
[21:43] <BarnabasDK> what is the installation status on the fresh install?
[21:44] <stevecoh1> It was not installed.  I had to install it, then delete old one.  Both operations succeeded..
[21:46] <BarnabasDK> stevecoh1, maybe you could force a reinstall of your GUI environment with apt install --reinstall to the GUI meta package
[21:46] <BarnabasDK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[21:48] <stevecoh1> BarnabasDK - well, I seem to have handled libwxgtk3.0
[21:48] <BarnabasDK> stevecoh1, yeah but you will probably have to do them one by one
[21:48] <BarnabasDK> if the list is short I suppose thats OK
[21:49] <stevecoh1> only about 4 or 5.  Honestly don't care about java.  I've retired since I put that on :-) and can always reinstall it later if need be.
[21:49] <billybigrigger> im trying to upgrade my digitalocean droptlet from 18.04LTS to 20.04LTS, via do-release-upgrade -d
[21:50] <billybigrigger> and it keeps giving me errors about my sources.list......https://paste.mozilla.org/sLOg2u5G
[21:52] <billybigrigger> there's the output of the whole command, it seems to start using the focal repos, but then errors out with something i've never seen before doing upgrades....i looked over my sources.list and i don't seem to have anything out of the ordinary, ill paste sources here .....https://paste.mozilla.org/P85bmGkc
[21:53] <billybigrigger> i have tried to install ubuntu-minimal but it IS installed
[21:54] <oerheks> billybigrigger, follow their guide, or seek their support https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa
[21:54] <billybigrigger> i have?
[21:54] <oerheks> upgrade path is not out yet, with reason
[21:55] <billybigrigger> what is the reason?
[21:55] <billybigrigger> ahh
[21:55] <billybigrigger> no point release
[21:58] <billybigrigger> that doesnt make sense 20.04.1 came out 2 months ago
[21:58] <billybigrigger> oerheks whats the reason for no upgrade path?
[22:01] <tomreyn> the reason for the message in line 50 ff. of https://paste.mozilla.org/sLOg2u5G will be that you're using DO's archive mirror, not an official mirror. if you'll edit your sources.list to point to an XX.archive.ubuntu.com mirror i think you'll be able to overcome this message.
[22:21] <stevecoh1> BarnabasDK: Grrrr.  Got rid of all the offenders, now get this
[22:21] <stevecoh1> $ sudo apt-clone clone /backupnot installable: version mismatch: Note that you can use --with-dpkg-repack to include those packges in the clone file.
[22:24] <stevecoh1> BarnabasDK: no not installables, no version mismatches, still barfs.
[22:31] <stevecoh1> BarnabasDK: thanks for the advice, it was worth a try :-(
[22:59] <KaiH> I'm used to that aptitude differentiates between security updates and other updates (maybe only from Debian, I'm not sure). It doesn't. Do you know what's the reason?
[23:04] <tomreyn> no, but
[23:04] <tomreyn> !aptitude
[23:05] <oerheks> in softwareupdater i see seperation too. security and other updates
[23:10] <KaiH> I'm using it on server… wasn't sure if should ask in #ubuntu-server, because updating is a quite general task :D
[23:12] <KaiH> Software updater seems to be a GUI only tool?
[23:12] <tomreyn> it is
[23:15] <KaiH> (personally, I use Kubuntu, so I don't know softwareupdater)
[23:58] <wabznasm> systemd is starting pulseaudio for system user (jenkins) without login which causes problems running jackd. Trying to disable pulse for that user fails. Any ideas on how to kick systemd to stop this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3qg23nkhnm/