[10:50] Well for me I would like to see our goal be increase the kubuntu user base and grow the active community [18:41] right, but how does more money do that? [18:42] I will give money but I want to know what we want to spend on [18:43] I agree Valerie and I would like the council to talk about out how we can can build upon our community and get more people involved and most importantly keep them involved [18:44] Let's take finance and fundraising off the table and and just try to answer the question what would it take to get more people engaged and for us to grow the community [19:00] sounds good to me [19:01] then if funds are needed the publicity for that grows out of our plans