[01:22] <valorie> aha, my husband asked if I had a way to direct sound elsewhere, which I do -- pulseaudio
[01:22] <valorie> but for both the mic and the headphones PA shows them "unplugged"
[01:23] <valorie> if I choose the headphones, no sound from the speakers, but no sound in the headphones either
[01:23] <valorie> most mysterious
[01:35] <Bashing-om> valorie: A thought: ' pavucontrol ' Check the inputs are correct ?
[01:36] <valorie> I think what I was using used to be called pavucontrol
[01:37] <valorie> issue isn't that they aren't correct, but that when plugged in, it is seen but assigned "unplugged"
[01:37] <valorie> which indicates to me that whatever layer is supposed to "listen" for USB being plugged in or unplugged is no longer listening
[01:38] <valorie> "oh you unplugged which means you no longer want to use your earphones & mic"
[01:38] <valorie> before upgrading to the beta, no issues
[01:38] <valorie> I checked on my husband's windows machine -- no issues
[01:39] <valorie> works exactly as it used to for me in 20.04
[01:39] <valorie> I just don't know if this is a KDE issue, just kubuntu, or ubuntu
[01:40] <valorie> what's the name of the thing we used to use in the commandline?
[01:40] <valorie> I should check it at that level
[01:41] <Bashing-om> valorie: aplay ?
[01:42] <valorie> alsamixer
[01:42] <valorie> I just had to DDG a bit to recall
[01:49] <valorie>  hmmm, I can control the laptop speakers with alsamixer but the plugged in earphones are not detected by it either
[01:49] <valorie> I guess it is a question for another day
[01:50] <Bashing-om> valorie: Booting an older live environment still workie ?
[01:51] <valorie> do you mean an older kernel? I think all are gone at this point
[01:52] <valorie> I might check on my travel lappy which is also on groovy but not been updated to the beta
[01:52] <valorie> but not rn
[01:59] <Bashing-om> valorie: :) laters \o
[01:59] <valorie> thanks for the suggestions!
[02:00] <valorie> linux sound stack is so mysterious
[02:00] <valorie> mix in USB, and ????
[02:00] <Bashing-om> valorie: Awh - just some thoughts.
[10:17] <CryptoSiD> Hi there, I'm having an annoying issue with exim4 on Ubuntu 20.10 and I would like to know if I'm the only one: https://dpaste.com/64MME5CGH
[10:17] <CryptoSiD> every night at midnight I receive an email to notify me about the paniclog... the systam isn't read-only... it's a bug
[10:18] <CryptoSiD> all the emails are getting sent without issue but it's still creating a paniclog for some of them.. I've been struggling with this issue for months...
[11:21] <tarzeau> CryptoSiD: so touch /var/spool/exim4//input/x works?