backthenI formatted a drive to have three partitions. One realdy has for windows. Other two are ntfs. Ubuntu's installer doesn't recognize any partition and freezes. What to do here?00:05
Bashing-ombackthen: What is your goal here, as ntfs is a Windows file system.00:10
backthenBashing-om: Install Ubuntu on one of the other two partitions. I assumed I could format the partitions during Ubuntu's install process00:15
midowyou can't install on ntfs00:15
midowif you want to format one of those partitions as something else such as ext4 and you suspect the installer is freezing because of ntfs you could try to format those partitions from windows as something else such as fat or just remove the partitions altogether00:16
backthenmidow: previously one parittion was unallocated so had no file system. Ubuntu install still didn't recognize anything. And it freezes when I use the '+'/'-' icons to add/remove partitions00:19
leftyfbbackthen: is it possible your machine has "RAID" enabled? (it's actually Windows version of software RAID which won't be supported by Ubuntu)00:22
leftyfbbackthen: I would look in your BIOS to see if you can find anything about RAID00:22
backthenleftyfb: ok. It's a laptop btw00:23
leftyfbbackthen: yep, they still do it. It's typically to use some Intel pcie chipset to improve boot speed00:23
ctrlbreakCan some kind soul who understands iSCSI in Ubuntu set me straight on some things?00:25
backthenleftyfb: no raid. The C drive has 'bitlocker encryption' however. Don't know if that's standard00:30
ctrlbreakFor instance, if I use targetcli-fb to admin and manage my iSCSI setup, I shouldn't need to have open-iscsi even installed should I?  It's just for client/initiator, correct?00:30
tatertotsctrlbreak: iscsi is already established, you say vmware currently is using it00:39
tatertotsctrlbreak: and if it's already established, what is the point of your endeavor?00:39
tatertotsctrlbreak: with that having been said, is it establish or NOT?00:40
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JackSK5Hi, I want to install picom (the compositor, for i3) on my unbuntu 20.04. I couldn't figure it out. The source code doesn't compile and I didn't find the picom package with apt search00:57
sirlurksalotSO... I have a client for my fledgling consulting business who was on Windows 7, which is now EOL, and put her on Ubuntu 20.04.  She can print to her Lexmark CS410-dn printer from Ubuntu, but complains that it is slower than when she used Windows.  Testing this, I found that when firing off a job from Windows, it will start the printer immediately and begin to kick out the page(s).  On Ubuntu it takes several seconds before the printer fires up.01:02
sirlurksalotAny idea why this is?  So far as I can tell, the printer is a Postscript printer and CUPS on Linux natively supports Postscript.  I have tried using a "CS410-dn" PPD file as opposed to a "CS410 Series" PPD file that Ubuntu/CUPS automatically sets up, with negligible difference in print speed.  Any thoughts?01:02
sirlurksalotI will be visiting her at her home tomorrow, and hope to have some idea(s) to try as I am out of my own.  Thanks in advance! :-)01:02
oerhekssounds not like a bug, at all.01:04
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sirlurksalotIn my experience, "slow" anything can be difficult to troubleshoot.  It works, but it takes upwards of 40-90 seconds to start the printer engine.  The printer is connected via USB to the same computer in either case (dual boot).01:16
* sirlurksalot is lurking but will be back to check for answers01:16
oerheksmust be a large job to print, 40-90 seconds.. sounds different than several seconds.01:17
geosmilepavlos, hi01:18
geosmileI have a particular directory, in which when I cd xx; ls -la -> ls returns the list, then waits 1 sec+ to terminate01:18
geosmileany ideas what could be wrong?01:18
geosmileand ls - or ls -a or ls -la -- all have the same behavior in this directory01:18
sirlurksalot@oerheks, it's the same job in either case; just a printer-friendly rendering of an email from GMail in Firefox.01:20
sirlurksalotThe exact same email prints almost immediately when using Windows 701:20
pavlosgeosmile: is that dir remotely mounted, like an nfs link?01:24
pavlosgeosmile: for example, accessing /home/geosmile should have no delay at all but accessing some dir -> nfs:/data might have a delay01:26
geosmilepavlos, it is a local directory02:07
pavlosgeosmile: does that local dir have sym.links inside (that could point to another fs)?02:10
JackSK5Guys, in Ubuntu when the official repositories doesn't have a package what you usually do? I'm newbie and have seen something like AUR in Archlinux, I want to know if there is a similar thing in Ubuntu? Is luanchpad the way to go?02:13
geosmilepavlos, all files here are local - nvme drive02:28
jonnj@JackSK5 I don't know if there is a good rule of thumb. It depends quite a bit on the people that are making the software. My preference is to install from the Ubuntu repo, but if the repos are not kept up to date and there is another repo I tend to do it that way.02:38
jonnjIf you use a repo you will get updates. Sometimes all you get is a .deb. At least you have a package designed for debian/ubuntu. Some software is in active development and you might need to essentially do a git install. I don't think there is a single consistent installation method.02:41
jonnjquite often I install one way and discover that there are problems and end up uninstalling and installing some other way02:43
pavlosgeosmile: sudo apt install nvme-cli, then run "nvme smart-log /dev/nvme0" paste output with pastebin02:49
geosmilepavlos, thanks02:55
geosmilepavlos, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wP4K3nNX73/02:58
pavlosgeosmile: all look good so I have no idea why "ls -al" has 1sec delay at the end02:59
pavlosgeosmile: nvme error-log /dev/nvme0 and pastebin, I do not like line 16: 98 errors03:01
geosmilepavlos, all entries in error-log are zero03:01
pavlosgeosmile: ok03:03
other_rickHello, exist some way for revert a 'rm -r folder' ?03:06
tatertotsother_rick: restore from back up03:07
sirlurksalotJackSK5, the AUR is basically scripts to download and build the software.  With Ubuntu, if it's not in the official Ubuntu repositories (package archives), then the first thing is, usually, to see if there is a PPA (personal package archive) being maintained by someone for the software.  If you add the PPA to your system, you can install software from there using the same infrastructure as the normal Ubuntu software installs (apt & co.).  You will03:20
sirlurksalotalso get updates when upgrading via the normal package management system.  The second place I would look is to see if there is a Snap package available.  Failing that, you can look into Flatpack support and see if it's available as a flatpack.  If not available as a snap or flatpack, then you can see if the authors (or someone) makes a .deb (Debian package archive; Ubuntu is derived from Debian) that you can download and install with a tool such as03:20
sirlurksalotGDebi (graphical DEB installer).  Lastly, you can almost always download the source code, compile it, and install it according to the author's build instructions.  AUR packages pretty much do this in a semi-automated way.  You will have to be mindful of dependencies (needs this version of that library, etc.) if you build it yourself.  The DEB packages (which are what the Ubuntu and PPA repos deliver) have dependency information in them so that the03:20
sirlurksalotAPT packaging system can resolve and install the needed supporting software.  The AUR package info files also list dependencies.  If you build it yourself, it's up to you to be sure you have the dependencies met.  Snap and Flatpack packages are different; they include their dependencies (more or less) and are "containerized".  At least Snaps are.  I'm not as familiar with Flatpacks.  There are also Appimage files, but I have limited experience with03:21
sirlurksalotthat system.03:21
JackSK5jonnj: Thanks dude03:53
JackSK5sirlurksalot: That's was totally enlightening! Thanks a lot for elaborated explanation. Now things are clearer for me. :)03:53
sirlurksalotJackSK5, oh you're so welcome. glad to be of some help03:54
JackSK5In Archlinux, both AUR and official went through the official install manager (pacman, or variant). Even the system python packages are install by one system (pacman). So kind of centeral management if i put it correctly. Here in ubunut I'm using apt install (for official and ppa). Snap and flatpack are containerized. But how to deal with .deb packages and buids in a standard or sustainable way04:01
JackSK5such a way it doesn't leed to a hell? I mean what is the good practice to manage diverse sources of packages?04:01
sirlurksalotJackSK5, No... in Arch, pacman installs packages from the repository.  OTHER programs like yaourt and the like can _also_ automagically build packages from the AUR scripts, then submit the packages (which are built on your system) to pacman for installation.  Pacman doesn't deal with the AUR directly...  Either you manually compile the AUR packages with the Arch Build System or you use a tool like yaourt, etc....  the result is a local package file04:07
sirlurksalotthat pacman can install.04:08
sirlurksalothttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_User_Guidelines  explains it in more detail04:09
sirlurksalotIn Ubuntu, you have the official repositories, which the APT system uses.  You can also add in other repositories that APT can use, like the Canonical Partners repo, or PPA's (also repos).  The repos in a Debian-like system contain pre-compiled binary versions of the software.  The AUR does not.  It only contains package definitions that make it a little easier to find, download, and compile the software from source code.04:10
sirlurksalotSnaps are a different thing (and also include binary software, not source code).  Flatpacks are somewhat similar.  Both Snap and Flatpack systems are meant to be cross-distro, as they include their dependencies.  Software packaged for a particular distribution or distro family is comiled against the versions of libraries and stuff that the distributions package maintainers include with the system.  For example, ubuntu comes with such-and-so version04:13
sirlurksalotof Python, this-or-that version of libinput, yadda yadda.  The software packaged FOR the distro is made to work against those versions.  It's really a ton of work that the distro package maintainers do, to be honest.04:13
sirlurksalotSo if you use a Snap package, it may have included within it some different version of a supporting library than what the distro (such as Ubuntu) comes with by default.04:14
sirlurksalotThe Ubuntu repos, and the PPA archives (also just repos), deliver DEB files for APT to install.04:14
sirlurksalot"The Arch Way" does not really encourage you to use "helper" tools to get your AUR packages.  (packages in the sense of the AUR are really a misnomer ... they are simple text files telling where to get the stuff to build the files and CREATE a package, locally, than you then install with pacman).  Arch promotes a do-it-yourself and learn-by-doing mentality and strongly recommends you learn how to use the AUR manually before blazing ahead with04:16
sirlurksalot"helper" tools, so that you understand exactly what is going on.04:16
JackSK5sirlurksalot: I meant either from official repo or AUR, this is the pacman system that put the binary in the OS filesystem. Even for python I seen guideline in their website that install system packages only from ropo/AUR and for other just use virtual reality. HOwever, in ubuntu I'm clear about APT (repo or PPA) and also snap and flatpack. But I'm not sure about how to manage .deb installs and04:18
JackSK5build from source installed (make install right?) in a way that do not mess the system.04:18
JackSK5*virtual environment04:18
sirlurksalotBecause there is really nothing more than some "where to get it" info in the AUR packagebuild files, you will find that someone usually creates a packagebuild file for most software.  That's why there's so much stuff there.  But all the heavy lifting is really done locally, on your machine.  Pacman is really a very simple package installer system compared to the likes of APT (Debian and deriviatives) or DNF in the Redhat/Fedora world04:18
sirlurksalotthe APT system basically downloads DEB files from the "repos" or "archives" and installs them.  DEB files are the same thing, delivered outside of a "repo" system.04:19
JackSK5sirlurksalot: I get it the AUR is basically a warpper around the build system which produce a .xyz package adn that later can be used by pacman.04:20
JackSK5so if I install a .deb file (eg. with dpkg -i...) then it's safe. Right?04:20
sirlurksalotAnd DEB files are basically tar (think zip) files with the binary software and a manifest04:20
sirlurksalotyeah, more or less.  It's doing the same thing that APT does behind the scenes.  Thing is that a manually installed DEB is not going to see automatic updates, as the repos get new versions from time to time and APT will download the new (DEB) and install it.  you'll have to download and manually install any software updates for DEB files you install with dpkg -i04:21
JackSK5I imagine this scenario that snap/flatpacks are separate beast. APT also another manager and now GDebi or manual build is another manager. There is no clash between APT and snap. But it might be some mess when I try to use GDebi for debian .deb files...that was my point on what is the best practice04:22
sirlurksalot(manually get the new DEB with the updates)04:22
JackSK5I get it. So when I'm using .deb or build, the automatic update is on my own. No worry about messing this (clashes or conflicts with APT)04:23
JackSK5I should manually keep track of the packages, I mean and that's become the user's responsibility.04:23
sirlurksalotManually installing a DEB file is a throwback to how it was before package managers like APT came along.  On RedHat systems they have a very similar package format called .RPM (redhat package manager) files.  You may have heard of "dependency hell" as you'd have to track down all the dependencies for a .rpm and get them and install them and then try (and try again).  APT came along for Debian and handles all that for you.  And then on RedHat, Yum04:23
sirlurksalot(and now DNF) do that same thing.04:23
JackSK5I just get worry that using GDebi mess my ubuntu bcz it was another's distro package...04:24
sirlurksalotI don't know off hand, but there should be a way of using the family of tools for the APT system to list the manually installed DEBs.  pacman has a similar feature that you can list all the "foreign" packages that were manually installed (the AUR packages, mainly).04:24
JackSK5sirlurksalot: exactly, I had an experience with fedora and went through that dependency hell (I switched back to windows as result for years)04:25
sirlurksalotThere is also a tool called alien that can convert an RPM file to a DEB04:25
sirlurksalotWell the modern DNF is very good, I understand.  I'm not a Fedora user; mostly Ubuntu and Arch (acutally Manjaro these days)04:25
JackSK5sirlurksalot: Arch was a bit intimidating for me but I might test it later04:26
JackSK5sirlurksalot: Thanks a lot for the explanations!04:27
sirlurksalotI went through it for the learning experience.  Then once I satisfied myself with that, I stopped being a masochist and just used AntergOS (until they disbanded).  Antergos was, mostly, an Arch installer that included a couple extra package repositories for stuff they provided, like theming and the graphical front end to the package management system.  not a lot else; it basically gave you a close-to-native Arch system and was not difficult to04:30
sirlurksalot"convert" into plain Arch as it used the Arch package repositories for most of the software.04:30
sirlurksalotLater I started using Manjaro, which is like Arch on a delay.  The new software releases are very quickly delivered by Arch proper -- thus the "bleeding edge", as you may get to experience some new bugs or regressions along the way.  Manjaro holds back the packages for a short while so they can be "shaken down" by others first, then when they are a tad more stable, they release them.  So it's not quite as bleeding-edge, but it's close.  Manjaro uses04:32
sirlurksalottheir own repositories, though, as that is how they control when the software is released to you.  If they used the Arch repos, you'd get the new stuff slightly sooner and slightly "raw"-er04:32
JackSK5sirlurksalot: any alternative then? with same purpose? I found people talking about ArcoLinux which probably have the same spriti04:32
JackSK5I'm into deep learning stuff and had a co-worker that things managing stuff (CUDNN, python, nvidia, etc) on arch is way easier...I'm still on ubuntu04:34
sirlurksalotIf you want an Arch system without the Arch install process, look at https://endeavouros.com/ (EndeavourOS).  It is pretty much what Antergos was... a nice installer for Arch with a very few custom packages; it uses the Arch repos and AUR for 99% of the system.  It's Arch, but without the pain (or education, to be frank).04:35
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sirlurksalotInstalling Arch the classic way is educational.  Beyond that, there is Gentoo (where everything is built from source), or you can build Linux From Scratch (which is basically an instructional guide to build your own linux, from scratch, mainly so you can be educated about how a Linux system is put together and the sorts of choices that distributuion already make for you04:37
sirlurksalotEven if you don't ever plan to go through the Linux From Scratch process, you may want to download the "book" and read through it to learn (a lot!) about how Linux systems are put together.04:38
sirlurksalotDeep Learning you mean Machine Learning?  Or do you mean you like to deep-dive and learn stuff with your fleshy brain04:40
sirlurksalotSo with regard to your co-worker's opinion...  I guess you can say that Distribution Maintainers generally make a lot of choices for you and do a LOT of work making a cohesive system.  Arch is much more do-it-yourself.  It gives you a minmial system (lean and mean), and leaves you in charge of fleshing out the system as you see fit.04:43
sirlurksalotBut you get power with that level of control04:43
sirlurksalotIn the Arch world there is not so much hand-holding by the distro itself; but rather the community is known for putting lots of good and detailed information on the Arch Wiki so you can figure it all out.  The Gentoo Wiki is also a good resource.04:44
retranfor people that just wanna use their computer...04:46
retranmay I suggest Ubuntu04:46
retranoh cool look where we are04:46
sirlurksalotYeah some of us are tinkerers.  I rarely play games ON my computer; I play WITH my computer04:47
sirlurksalotLOL this Ubuntu channel is getting a lot of non-Ubuntu chatter, no?  Well JackSK5 wanted to understand the differences, as so many do.  Ubuntu is a good, solid system to just get your work done on.  No doubt.04:48
sirlurksalotAnd for people I will be supporting, I generally go with an Ubuntu derivative because it is so ubiquitous04:48
sirlurksalotYou can generally always find help on how to make something happen on an Ubuntu system.04:49
JackSK5sirlurksalot: Thanks a lot.04:50
JackSK5Yes. Indeed I'm a tinkerer and have learn a lot through it.04:50
sirlurksalotJackSK5, To be honest, you're probably going to be better off using Ubuntu or a derivative until you are more comfortable on Linux and have a bit deeper understanding.  You can "play" with alternatives in a virtual machine or something until you get comfortable with those.04:51
sirlurksalotyeah, JackSK5, no problem04:52
JackSK5On Arch, I like the philosophy but it's a trade-off between how much time you want to put learning your tools (OS). Right now I'm OK with ubuntu but in future I might get fed up with those choices that others made for my system and make things harder. My co-worker point was about this. It says since Arch is too lean you're closer to what developer experinces...04:52
sirlurksalotNow if someone can enlighten me on slow CUPS printing like I asked an age ago in here :-P04:52
sirlurksalotJackSK5, seriously just try the others in a virtual machine environment.  It's super easy.  Then you can break them all day long and just revert them 'till you get the feel for what you really want to do04:53
sirlurksalotUbuntu is a solid choice, though.  I've been using Ubuntu since it came out in 2004.  Before that it was Mandrake and a lot of hair-pulling (dependency hell, for sure).04:54
sirlurksalotThose days are behind us, though04:55
sirlurksalotFor your learning, seriously consider going through Linux From Scratch and Beyond Linux From Scratch04:55
dr`venomI'm on hp spectre 360x, and I can't get my sound to work. It seems some people have had the same issue, but I don't see any real solution.04:56
sirlurksalotdr`venom, use the lspci command on the terminal (lists the PCI bus devices) to see what sound hardware you have04:58
sirlurksalotLinux uses the ALSA system for the low-level drivers, and typically PulseAudio runs on top of that as a sound-server architecture for routing sound between applications and devices04:58
sirlurksalotYou will often have more than one audio interface; one on the motherboard and another in your "graphics card" hardware to send sound over HDMI04:59
dr`venom00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation Comet Lake PCH cAVS05:00
dr`venomIs it that?05:00
dr`venomOn the settings sound GUI, under output device I have Speaker-sof-hda-dsp05:01
dr`venomEven when I put on something like youtube, I see sound on the meter and I even have sound through the headphones.05:01
sirlurksalotseems like that would be it05:04
sirlurksalotYou can go into Settings, then Sound, and you should be able to see a list of applications using audio, and their volume levels, as well as selections for Output and Input devices (and a way to test the output devices)05:07
sirlurksalotdr`venom, try installing pavucontrol which is a graphical program that will show you all the applications sending audio and let you re-route where they output05:12
sirlurksalotand control volumes, independently05:12
sirlurksalotit's a much more granular tool and might help you05:12
backthenI open a terminal during Ubuntu installation. Then I do fdisk -l to show partitions but get permission denied for all listed partitions. is this right?05:41
bindibackthen: sudo in front05:56
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backthenbindi: I used GPart tool as well. It shows no partition other than the USB drive itself. It's as if the hard disk is not found06:20
darshanmnHi, after a recent system update on ubuntu 20.04 I'm facing this error whenever I run few programs - "/usr/bin/ssh: error while loading shared libraries: libkeyutils.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". I've tried reinstalling the library package but it fails with the following error:06:36
darshanmnhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w4hqr4pHzs/. I'm not able to find anything online to fix the issue so can someone help me out?06:36
leibniz[m]systemd-analyze time06:40
leibniz[m]Startup finished in 12.519s (firmware) + 3.024s (loader) + 4.264s (kernel) + 1min 24.412s (userspace) = 1min 44.221s  ==\n== graphical.target reached after 55.584s in userspace06:40
leibniz[m]How to reduce userspace time?06:40
lotuspsychjeleibniz[m]: are you on 20.04?06:53
XATRIXHi, how can i find out which packages pulls apache2 as deps ?07:57
mgedminapt-cache rdepends apache2?07:58
lotuspsychjeXATRIX: when installing packages with apt, you always have to confirm yes/no you can also check the pulls there07:58
lotuspsychjemgedmin: i fixed my hp issue after ltsupgrade yesterday with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1719169 fix #107:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1719169 in HPLIP "hp-toolbox cannot start" [Undecided,New]07:59
XATRIXyeap, but i can't figure out. take a look please. http://i.imgur.com/DjcqW4H.png08:00
XATRIXI'm just installing php + nginx(already installed), but php pulls apache2 full08:01
mgedminXATRIX: php Depends: php7.4, which Depends: libapache2-mod-php7.4, which Recommends: apache208:06
mgedminyou may want to apt install --no-install-recommends php to avoid pulling in apache208:06
qwerty1793Hi, I made a mirror of all of the bionic files at archive.ubuntu.com to use as a local apt mirror but when I change /etc/apt/sources.list to point at my local copy I get a "main/dep11/icons-48x48.tar not found" error. I've checked and there is an entry for this file in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/InRelease but there is no such file at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/dep11/08:06
qwerty1793how do I get this file so that I can run apt update and have it succeed?08:07
XATRIXmgedmin: yeap, 'libapache2-mod-php7.4' depends on 'php7.4' is it possible to "mask" apache2 from libapache2-mod-php7.4?08:10
qwerty1793I also tried un-gzipping the .tar.gz folders that were in the directory but running "gunzip -k ./main/dep11/*.gz" but afterwards I got a "cannot open, file is open (error: 13)"08:11
mgedminXATRIX: do you not like the --no-install-recommends solution?  you can also do `apt install php apache2-` with the trailing - to tell apt you do not want apache2 to be installed08:18
XATRIXAh...didn't know it , thanks !08:19
xtaomod_php is the ancient way of using php with apache anyway, probably shouldn't be a dependancy as apache should be using something like php-fpm the same as nginx08:25
leibniz[m]lotuspsychje: no 18.04.08:30
leibniz[m]I don't need text2speech at the moment. Can I apt purge speed-dispatcher without messing up anything else?08:31
lotus|NUCleibniz[m]: pastebin systemd-analyze critical-chain please08:36
leibniz[m]lotus|NUC: https://termbin.com/ztwg08:38
lotus|NUCleibniz[m]: seems like docker and your desktop are taking most of time08:42
leibniz[m]lotus|NUC: did docker took 8 or 46 sec?08:43
leibniz[m]Also I08:43
leibniz[m]Im using i3wm..no desktop08:44
lotus|NUCleibniz[m]: ok, thats even weirder, as i3 should give you much faster boots then gnome08:44
lotus|NUCleibniz[m]: what other services/programs did you install on your system?08:45
mgedminxtao: php7.4 Depends: libapache2-mod-php7.4 | php7.4-fpm | php7.4-cgi, php7.4-common, so if you choose to install fpm, apt shouldn't try to pull in apache modules08:46
xtaoahhh. so it just depends on which you have installed first08:48
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leibniz[m]lotus|NUC: https://termbin.com/xryb08:54
Ox861726f6c64I have Zenbook UX334FLC and speakers won't work(mic is working tho), I searched for this issue and I've found the problem is a specific issue for Zenbook model. I've tried upgrading/downgrading kernel versions. I can provide debug info if requested.08:59
lotuspsychjeleibniz[m]: wich kernel are you on?09:00
leibniz[m]lotuspsychje: 5.4.0-48-generic09:05
leibniz[m]lotuspsychje: is snapd the culprit?09:06
leibniz[m]I have 6 snap apps. and each of them are taking 9 seconds?09:06
lotuspsychjeleibniz[m]: im not really sure yet, i know bionics systemd is slower then 20.04 but with i3wm doesnt make much sense your system lags so much09:07
leibniz[m]lotuspsychje: I'm actually using Xubuntu but in a i3session...09:07
leibniz[m]Xfdesktop doesn't load09:07
lotuspsychjeleibniz[m]: even weirder, is your docker a snap?09:07
leibniz[m]lotuspsychje: no09:08
leibniz[m]vscode, core, core18, gtk-common-themes, scrcpy and exercism09:08
lotuspsychjeleibniz[m]: well docker is ontop your blame list, maybe you could compare without it as a test?09:09
lotuspsychjeleibniz[m]: maybe also try booting onto a fresh users as a test09:09
leibniz[m]lotuspsychje: apt-daily-service is at top...09:10
reivilibrehello — I was wondering if anyone might have further pointers on what I can do to solve a longstanding (been having it since 2016) WiFi issue.09:10
reivilibreThe problem is: when I resume from suspend, all wireless devices appear as 'hard blocked' — but my laptop does not have any hardware switches09:10
reivilibreThis seems to be an issue across many HP Pavilion laptops (mine is a 15-ab271sa with Intel Wireless 3165 rev 81)09:10
reivilibreEven if I plug in a USB dongle, it does not work after resumption (even if it was plugged in after resumption).09:10
reivilibreThe only workaround I have found is to pass through a USB dongle to a virtual machine and use it there.09:10
reivilibreI'm not alone with this problem; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1781049 and https://askubuntu.com/questions/737892/hard-blocked-wifi-after-suspend seem to be the same09:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1781049 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "WiFi hard blocked after resuming laptop from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:10
Ublxwhat program do I use best to define additional keys of my new 5-key-mouse (ubuntu 18.04)?09:39
Ublxand are their mice that are not possible to connect to ubuntu?09:49
lotuspsychjeUblx: there are always cases where a mouse doesnt pickup for a reason, like when its a bluetooth mouse for example and BT has troubles pairing09:53
qwerty1793Hi, I made a mirror of all of the bionic files at archive.ubuntu.com to use as a local apt mirror but when I change /etc/apt/sources.list to point at my local copy I get a "main/dep11/icons-48x48.tar not found" error. I've checked and there is an entry for this file in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/InRelease but there is no such file at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/dep11/10:09
qwerty1793how do I get this file so that I can run apt update and have it succeed?10:09
mgedminI expect you could download icons-48x48.tar.gz and gunzip it10:13
eeosis it possible to install kubuntu and ubuntu on the same machine without having problems such as reduction of performances (for example because of duplication of processes).10:14
CryptoSiDwhat's the correct channel for Ubuntu 20.10?10:16
lotuspsychje!+1 | CryptoSiD10:16
CryptoSiDthanks :)10:16
leibniz[m]Is removing list file from apt/sources.list.d/ enough for removing PPA?11:17
Ublxlotuspsychje: it's not bluetooth and the mouse works with the normal buttons and wheel. what program do I use best for activating and define the additional keys?11:17
leibniz[m]what is this keyring thing?11:17
mgedminleibniz[m]: yes, but don't forget to run apt update afterwards11:19
mgedminand yeah, that would leave the ppa's gpg key in your apt keyring, but I don't think that's a big problem11:20
mgedmin`add-apt-repository --remove ppa:user/repo` might be nicer11:20
mgedmina keyring is like a database that contains cryptographic keys11:21
leibniz[m]mgedmin: I purged leap-archive-keyring as well.11:21
mgedminthat sounds unrelated11:21
leibniz[m]A really weird problem. I want to remove or purge hddtemp. But another completely unrelated package to it seems to be also deleted11:21
leibniz[m]When I sudo apt remove hddtemp, it issues me with a warning that ROS package would be unnecessary after this.11:24
leibniz[m]but that is not in anyway related to hddtemp11:24
mgedminperhaps it became unnecessary earlier; IIRC every apt operation tells you about autoremovable packages and suggests the command to remove them11:25
leibniz[m]mgedmin: no I suspected this. It should show me that there are unneeded packages after a update and upgrade. but it doesn't.11:26
leibniz[m]It only does so when I'm about to uninstall that.11:26
qwerty1793Hi, I made a mirror of all of the bionic files at archive.ubuntu.com to use as a local apt mirror but when I change /etc/apt/sources.list to point at my local copy I get a "main/dep11/icons-48x48.tar not found" error. I've checked and there is an entry for this file in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/InRelease but there is no such file at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/dep11/12:01
qwerty1793how do I get this file so that I can run apt update and have it succeed?12:01
BluesKajHi all12:20
leitzIs there something different for installing gimp? "apt-get install gimp"  E: Package 'gimp' has no installation candidate12:21
mgedminleitz: re-run apt update and see if that helps?  what's your ubuntu version?12:21
mgedminmaybe you just don't have the universe component enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list?12:22
mgedmin(for which the fix is to sudo add-apt-repository universe)12:22
mgedminhey how come add-apt-repository's --help is more verbose than the manual page?12:22
leitzmgedmin, Ubuntu 20.04, I can see some "universe" things in the sources.list but they are commented out. Any one in particular I should edit?12:24
mgedminall of them; simpler to run sudo add-apt-repository universe or click the relevant checkbox in the Software Sources GUI12:25
leitzmgedmin, man pages are "fun" to write, for masochistic definitions of fun...12:25
leitzmgedmin, running "add-apt-repository universe" let me find gimp, but it fails due to unmet dependencies. Is that "normal"?12:45
leitzmgedmin, sorry, "it fails" should be "apt-get install gimp".12:46
mgedminthat's weird, I have gimp installed here on 20.0412:46
mgedminwhat dependency does it think is missing?12:46
leitzDepends: libgimp2.0 (>= 2.10.18) but it is not going to be installed      Depends: libgimp2.0 (<= 2.10.18-z) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libgegl-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.22) but it is not going to be installed12:47
leitzapt list libgimp2.0 does not show "installed"12:49
mgedminit sounds as if there's some conflict that prevents libgegl-0.4-0 from being installed12:51
mgedminwhat I usually do in similar situations is explicitly ask apt to install those packages that are dependencies12:51
mgedmini.e. sudo apt install gimp libgimp2.0 libgegl-0.4-012:51
mgedminusually what I get is a different error message, so I often have to repeat that by adding more and more dependencies12:52
mgedminuntil apt finally tells me that it can't install package X because it conflicts with package Y12:52
mgedminor something12:52
mgedmindo you have any 3rd-party repositories enabled?  because gimp in the main archive shouldn't have dependency problems12:53
leitzYeah, now libumfpack5 is not installable.12:53
leitz libgegl-0.4-0 : Depends: libumfpack5 (>= 1:4.5.2) but it is not installable12:53
leitzE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.12:53
leitzAh, found it. I hadn't checked "Canonical Supported ..." in the Software thingy.12:55
leitzmgedmin, thanks for the assist!12:56
mgedminhuh, is that the 'main' component?  oops :)12:57
wedrHello, running on a newly upgraded Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS. How do you reduce the size of the UI of the login screen? It's cutting off my username with ellipsis.13:24
ice9I've backup from postfix/dovecot Maildir  of an old account, now I need to be able to list and view message inside the Maildir; how can I do that?13:31
zeorinHey all. I'm running 20.04 and my sound has suddenly stopped working. I only have dummy output.13:39
zeorinI have tried `sudo alsa force-reload` but this is not helping.13:41
zeorinThere are no sound cards detected. `sudo lspci -v | grep -i audio` returns nothing.13:43
zeorinI'm pretty sure this was `snd_hda_intel` before13:43
stevecoh1Hello.  I am trying to transfer an existing install of Ubuntu (20.4.1 LTS) from a hard drive to a new SSD.  Many little gotchas.  Here's one.  I should have told computer store the username I wanted them to add.  Instead, they made one up, not the one on the existing install.  Anyway, I added the user I wanted to use, but a minor annoyance is this.13:57
stevecoh1When I reboot, Ubuntu automatically logs in to the user I don't want.  I have to log out, then I get a choice of users, then pick the one I want.  Where is this controlled and how do I fix it?13:58
BluesKajzeorin, try, sudo aplay -l13:58
stevecoh1never mind, found it.14:00
leftyfbstevecoh1: why not just copy the old contents of the old drive to the new ssd using dd ?14:01
leftyfbor not14:01
BluesKajzeorin, then try sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel, there will be no output if the driver loads, but you''ll probly need a reboot...it's an old intel audio bug that's been overlooked for yrs14:03
mgedminice9: mutt -f your-maildir/14:25
kyle__Is there an extra package for desktop-type kernel modules for linux-image-4.18.0*generic?14:37
kyle__The 4.15.*-generic line had drivers for my laptop's sound card and webcam, but the 4.18 does not.  The 4.15 however didn't work with my wifi :/14:37
srulihow can i get the size of all files in a dir excluding all subdirs?14:38
kyle__I think there's a flag you can pass to do du for that... gimmie a sec to remember14:38
srulithere is --exclude=, bt there are about 300 subdirs, dont want to list all14:39
kyle__Nah, manpage is faster than my memory14:39
kyle__To quote from the sacred scrolls: "for directories do not include size of  subdirectories"14:39
srulikyle__: many thanks14:39
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hexo_hi, please how can i reassign action - when i click in firefox in downloads on Open containing folder, it runs a baobab15:14
hexo_which makes no sense15:14
hexo_i want it to launch dolphin15:14
leftyfbhexo_: try https://sites.google.com/site/installationubuntu/tweaking-ubuntu/change-default-filemanager15:16
leftyfbhexo_: also https://askubuntu.com/a/23453215:16
leftyfbhexo_: found both by searching google for "ubuntu change default file manager"15:17
jozefkhow do I fix this please:15:18
jozefkE: Failed to fetch http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  File has unexpected size (201420 != 200914). Mirror sync in progress?15:18
hexo_leftyfb: hexo@qwop:€:~> xdg-mime query default inode/directory15:18
hexo_hm, :D15:18
hexo_baobab isnt nautilus :D15:19
hexo_and even i dont have nautilus at all, interesting15:19
leftyfbhexo_: try the 2nd link15:19
hexo_leftyfb: thanks a lot, it works like charm!15:20
darshanmnHi, after a recent system update on ubuntu 20.04 I'm facing this error whenever I run few programs - "/usr/bin/ssh: error while loading shared libraries: libkeyutils.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". I've tried reinstalling the library package but it fails with the following error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w4hqr4pHzs/. I'm not able to find anything online to fix the issue so can someone help me out?15:38
darshanmnOr can someone direct me to the right platform to inquire about this issue and find a solution?15:39
enycubuntu 20.04 / mint 20   update-initramfs   definitely seems to be not-honouring  /etc/initramfs-tools/modules15:39
enycI have definitely added sata_sil as single line on the end15:40
enycoh! missing in source direcotry wtf foing on!15:41
* enyc investigates15:41
enycOH module is in some -extra package15:42
amosbirdHello, how can I download the source file of  https://apt.llvm.org/focal/dists/llvm-toolchain-focal-11/16:25
leftyfbamosbird: contact llvm.org for support with their packages16:48
xMeiaany just chatting channel?17:17
lotuspsychje!discuss | xMeia17:18
ubottuxMeia: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!17:18
xMeiahow do you remove validation with password for installing/updating etc?17:32
xMeiaI am on Xubuntu17:33
jkdie7ninoI have issue with squid, even if next is comented out I have issue to access server which is on noneusual port17:37
jkdie7nino #http_access deny CONNECT !SSL_ports17:37
jkdie7ninohttp_access deny !Safe_ports17:37
iseneIs it possible to define exact colors in the 256 color palette in .Xresources (rather than #5f0895)?17:45
akemHey, i can't find a desktop magnifier :X ?17:50
Shillosuse a normal one and use it against the display :-)17:52
leftyfbakem: press the start/super key on your keyboard and type in "magnifier"17:52
akemleftyfb, I'm using fluxbox, i need a standalone app like xmag but that works constantly.17:53
g3poandlslI am trying to use the Ubuntu 18.04 ISO as a local repo for an offline VM to install some packages.  apt errors with _file not found_. Inspecting the ISO directories, I clearly see the deb packages are there17:54
lotuspsychjeg3poandlsl: did you sudo apt update after adding your iso?17:58
g3poandlsllotuspsychje, yes.  I added the ISO with `apt-cdrom add` and followed with `apt update`17:58
lotuspsychjeg3poandlsl: is that on server or desktop?18:00
g3poandlsllotuspsychje, desktop18:00
lotuspsychjeg3poandlsl: did you try from software&sources adding the cdrom?18:01
g3poandlsllotuspsychje, yes.  I used both software & sources GUI and terminal (apt-cdrom).  I even tried manually editting /etc/apt/sources.list18:02
g3poandlslapt is obviously able to retrieve the release and packages files form the ISO18:02
g3poandlslapt list displays all packages that are supposedly available18:02
lotuspsychjeg3poandlsl: compare with your method perhaps; https://techpiezo.com/linux/use-iso-image-as-cd-rom-repository-in-ubuntu/18:04
mgedming3poandlsl: you cannot use Ubuntu livecd-based installer CD images as apt sources18:05
mgedminthe installation doesn't use apt to copy packages; it copies the entire filesystem from the CDROM, including the apt database18:05
g3poandlslmgedmin, thanks. looks like I will need to create my own local repo18:10
g3poandlsllotuspsychje, Thanks for the link, unfortunately didn't work in my case18:11
Ublxwith xev i get the events of my 2 additional mouse buttons of my mouse but with xbindkeys-config there's no reaction like i wouldn't press any button. any idea what's wrong? i use 18.04.18:13
Ublxand in the browser they work like forward and backward18:13
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txithihausenHi fellows, I'm dealing with a problem to enable network in my ubuntu desktop 20.04 when running as a OS guest of a Virtualbox VM. When I run as NAT everything works fine but when I need to configure as Bridge option the ubuntu does not detect any network. My OS host is also an Ubuntu 20.04. Any tip?18:43
rfmtxithihausen, make sure the vboxnetflt module is loaded, if not it probably needs to be rebuilt.  Are you trying to bridge to a wireless network?  (And what do you mean "does not detect any network" anyway?)18:47
txithihausenrfm, thank you for the answer. For the first question, I have just built the OS Guest Additions but oddly I'm unable to find such module (I've found others related to vbox). For the second, yes, I'm trying to bridge to a wireless. In previous versions of Ubuntu I haven't faced any issue on this regards. Finally, for the third question, my ubuntu guest start without detect and configure network. On the other hand, if I start configure as NAT mode18:53
txithihauseneverything works fine.18:53
txithihausenrfm, even if I configure static ip it does not work18:55
rfmtxithihausen, vboxnetflt is on the host, not the guest. it is part of the host vbox install, not Guest Additions.19:00
txithihausenrfm, I'll check. Just a moment.19:00
txithihausenrfm, I just checked and my os host has such module.19:03
pavlostxithihausen: in bridged mode, the guest should pick up an ip from your router (and be part of your lan). Is that what you want?19:09
pavlostxithihausen: in nat mode, the guest gets an ip (example, can access the Internet but cannot see your lan.19:14
txithihausenpavlos, yes, i'm aware of such behavior.19:15
rfmtxithihausen, it's still possible the module is out of date wrt to the kernel.  It would be worth rebuilding it, unfortunatly I don't remember how to do that (I use the packages from virtualbox.org where it all happens automatically)19:16
txithihausenrfm, it is my case also (use of pre-built packages). I'll take a look on this matter.19:17
Maik*offtopic* Seveas greetings from Cugel over at #ubuntu-nl.19:41
other_rickHello, I have a file image.rootfs.sdcard that kind of file could be burn on a sdcard using dd?19:52
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xMeiaany tips for performance software on linux to an old laptop? (4gb, dual core 1,8GHz)20:18
eldowanI'm running bionic, and I'm trying to configure network manager to have both a DHCP and manual address, both with default gateways, but the DHCP gateway used if DHCP is provided. Is there a way to accomplish this? I'm looking for this behavior because this device may be deployed in either scenario and if I set a gw on the manual entry the DHCP doesn't get used for a gateway20:26
txithihausenFellows, regarding my previous doubt (enable network on a ubuntu as OS guest) I getting a strange behavior. If the OS Guest is Ubuntu 18.04 (server edition) the network works just fine but in 20.04 no. Any tip?20:37
iseneAnyone here knows of a hex -> X11-256-color converter? I have found a couple of scripts that yields the wrong results. I want a script that does what X11 does when reading hex colors in .Xresources and reducing the 16 million colors available in hex format to the 256 colors available to xterm or urxvt.21:12
pavloseldowan: does this help ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/452317/both-dhcp-and-static-ip-addresses-simultaneously-on-one-interface21:13
eldowanThanks pavlos, I'll check that out soon.21:13
mfoolbhello.. I've just upgraded to latest version and after reboot I can reach the login page but after some seconds I receive a rfkill message (input handler enabled/disabled) and I can't access the system (only tty terminal work).. what could be the problem?21:18
mfoolbif I swith to the tty with the graphic interface I receive the error again and again21:19
mfoolbI upgraded to 20.04.1 LTS21:19
pavlosisene: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11765623/convert-hex-to-closest-x11-color-number21:20
mfoolbany suggestion? Any way to downgrade?21:22
mfoolbI'll try to be more clear. Ubuntu 19, system asked for upgrade.. after that I have 20.04.1 LTS, luks pswd ok - system boots - graphical interface starts but after 10/15 seconds it switches to terminal mode and print rfkill error changing tty and back graphical interface is on but another 10/15 seconds and rfkill error is showed again.. what can I do to solve this issue? (terminal is working)21:37
ocaeedrojoin #archlinux-es21:38
mfoolbI'll be glad if someone could take a bit of hist time to help, TIA21:39
Kanihiroi recommend to make a backup and install 20.04 by ISO.21:40
mfoolbKanihiro: thanks. I cuold do that but strange thing is the everything is working so I thought that could be a way to solve this particular issue21:41
Kanihiromaybe has, but i dont know :(21:41
Kanihirotry using init 1, init 2 etc.21:43
Kanihiro(don't use init 5 and higher)21:43
Kanihiromaybe init 3 works.21:43
mfoolbKanihiro: everything works using a terminal (no need to change init)21:44
pavlosmfoolb: anything in /var/log/syslog? or .xsession-errors ?21:46
pavlosmfoolb: rfkill all list | nc termbin.com 999921:50
mfoolbpavlos: syslog report the rfkill error I mentioned21:50
mfoolbI did rfkill list all21:53
mfoolbpavlos: doesn't seem to be of much help21:54
pavlosmfoolb: wanted to check there are not blocked21:55
mfoolbpavlos: really strange behaviour21:55
pavlosmfoolb: maybe the wifi card is heating up21:56
pavlosneed to run ... back later21:56
mfoolbpavlos: tried booting with wifi adapter disconnected.. same result21:57
eldowanpavlos: your link gets me to the point I'm at. When I add an additional static address to the DHCP profile, it works, but both routes show a metric of 100 when I run 'ip r'. I was hoping to find a way that I could alter the metric of the static, or conditionally assign the active gateway to prefer dhcp over static address.22:26
pavloseldowan: modify metric by adding "metric 700" under the [ipv4] heading for the static ip22:32
pavlosmfoolb: can you connect wired and see if you get same bahavior?22:33
eldowanthanks pavlos, i'll try that tomorrow morning when I'm back to work.22:33
pavlosmfoolb: are you using gdm to login?22:35
random1Hello #ubuntu. Having issues and I believe my system could have been compromised. Dealing with malicious roommate unfortunately. Im curious on my gUFW its showing on reports quite a bit of ports. My options are set to "public" and "reject" incoming and "allow" outgoing.22:38
random1Also i currently use firefox with noscript, uBlock Origin, Decentraleyes, and HTTPS everywhere. I dont run any servers or anything off of this laptop. Also VPN encryption on openvpn22:41
random1anyone alive?23:00
dTalrandom1: I'm heading to bed, but as a rule - if you think you might have been compromised, the only safe thing to do is to back up your files and reinstall.23:09
random1I agree lol23:10
dTalApart from that, you haven't given us much to go on.23:10

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