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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:01
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bdmurray#topic Lightning Round15:01
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bdmurraycho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)15:01
bdmurraymwhudson slyon xnox doko sil2100 infinity juliank waveform tdaitx vorlon rbalint bdmurray15:02
bdmurrayslyon:15:02
slyon- 360 review training15:02
slyon- Learned how to build *-signed packages for secure boot15:02
slyon- submitted netplan talk for OVScon in Dec15:02
slyon- looked into dbus issue, bug #1871538, red herring15:02
slyon- prepared s390-tools[-signed] SRUs15:02
slyon  * bug #1888231, bug #1892350, bug #189302715:02
slyon=== Netplan ===15:02
ubottubug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187153815:02
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1888231 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1888231). The error has been logged15:02
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1892350 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892350). The error has been logged15:02
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1893027 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1893027). The error has been logged15:02
slyon- Reviewed NM plugin MP#39122215:02
slyon- Finalized & merged netplan get/set CLI+DBus, PR#16315:02
slyon  * Prepared "tech-preview" packages in PPA for other teams15:02
slyon- Re-worked 0.100 Focal SRU, to improve riscv64 test coverage15:02
slyon  * missing openvswitch build on Focal/riscv6415:02
slyon  * 0.100-0ubuntu4~20.04.2 currently pending in unapproved queue15:02
slyon- Working on netplan try/cancel DBus for UC20, PR#13415:02
slyon(done)15:02
bdmurrayxnox:15:02
xnoxhunting grub2 regressions15:03
xnoxworking on adding Task field to finalrd15:03
xnoxdone15:04
xnoxsponsored bunch of pi* things15:04
bdmurraydoko:15:04
bdmurrayhow about sil2100 then15:05
sil2100Ok!15:05
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:05
sil2100- FFe reviews15:05
sil2100- Queue reviews for groovy15:05
sil2100- Groovy Beta:15:05
sil2100  * Prepared reminder and freeze announcement15:05
sil2100  * Froze the archive, generally did 'beta' stuff, created candidate images15:05
sil2100  * Going through bugs, checking severity, writing them down and putting on milestone15:05
sil2100  * Re-ran subiquity images after Paride noticed a networking-related problem during image build15:05
sil2100  * Prepublishing + preparing for publishing15:05
sil2100  * Started writing announcement15:05
sil2100- Started validating ubuntu-image 1.10 SRU after getting it ACKed and accepted15:05
sil2100- Reviewed another big netplan PR from Lukas, this time regarding get/set functionality15:05
sil2100- Work on getting in some toolchain-related SRUs (cvise etc.)15:05
sil2100- Interviews15:05
sil2100- Prepared and released the first batch of langpacks for groovy15:05
sil2100- A bit of work on the roadmap15:05
sil2100- Re-sponsoring netplan 0.100 SRU for focal after initial rejection15:05
sil2100- Sponsoring a few other packages for various people15:05
sil2100(done)15:05
sil2100Oh!15:06
sil2100Forgot:15:06
bdmurrayjulian is out15:06
bdmurraywaveform:15:06
sil2100- Merged Brian's ubuntu-image changes (first contribution!)15:06
waveform* Fixed FTBFS on python-apt (https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/python-apt/-/merge_requests/51)15:06
waveform* Working on FTBFS for numpy (partly https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/16883 plus a ton of broken refs in the docs)15:06
waveform* Working on removal of all cronjobs from update-notifier (LP: #1836475)15:06
waveform* MIR for pi-bluetooth (LP: #1897920)15:06
sil2100(done)15:06
waveform* Attempting to debug customer case on Core18 (failed to reproduce with base image; attempting to build custom image)15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1836475 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Groovy) "update-notifier-common weekly cron job runs at the same time for all computers across the globe" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183647515:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1897920 in pi-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pi-bluetooth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189792015:06
waveform* Onboarding meetings15:06
waveform* Tested "more new stuff"15:06
waveform(done)15:06
tdaitx* reviewed openjdk and ubuntu timelines15:06
tdaitx* packaging openjdk 11.0.9+10 and 8u272-b0915:06
tdaitx* fixed apport-hook for openjdk 1115:06
tdaitx* sru verification for bug 188714215:06
tdaitx* glossed over ftbfs list, will pick something tomorrow15:06
ubottubug 1887142 in pdfsam (Debian) "pdfsam won't run, has missing and conflicting dependencies" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188714215:06
tdaitxOther:15:06
tdaitx* playing around pulseaudio profiles at night to separate hdmi/analog outputs and with echo and noise cancelling modules15:06
tdaitx(done)15:06
bdmurrayvorlon:15:06
bdmurrayrbalint:15:07
bdmurrayokay, I'll go!15:08
rbalintah, a sec15:08
bdmurrayokay15:08
bdmurraystanding by15:08
rbalint* +1 maintenance15:10
rbalint* partner work15:10
rbalint* trying to fix LP: #1871268, maybe it works out now15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1871268 in glibc (Ubuntu Focal) "Installation fails with Could not configure 'libc6:i386'. , E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187126815:10
rbalint(done)15:10
bdmurrayuploaded a focal SRU of the fix for LP: #1886534, LP: #189586515:10
bdmurraydiscussed LP: #1894919 with sil2100 then v-failed it15:10
bdmurrayadded /etc to the contents_mapping file for retracers15:10
bdmurraytested and verified it in staging, deployed in production15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1886534 in update-motd (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] This message is shown once once a day." [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188653415:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1895865 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py@59:dump_acpi_tables:dump_acpi_table" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189586515:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1894919 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "gnome-software-plugin-snap consider an unwanted removal for 20.04 ubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189491915:10
bdmurraysponsored the props change for LP: #188611215:10
bdmurraysponsored u-r-u changes for LP: #1893717, LP: #189777815:10
bdmurrayuploaded an apport to change to help with LP: #189165715:10
bdmurrayfurther troubleshooting of the above issue as its not completely fixed15:10
bdmurrayemailed ubuntu-devel re PathExists trigger changes15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1886112 in procps (Ubuntu Groovy) "Enabling DMESG_RESTRICT in Groovy Onward" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188611215:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1893717 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "Add Ubuntu Advantage service apt urls to valid mirrors" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189371715:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1897778 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "DistUpgradeController to release apt lock during PostInstallScripts" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189777815:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1891657 in systemd (Ubuntu Groovy) "systemd 100% cpu usage apport-autoreport.service: Failed with result 'start-limit-hit'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189165715:10
bdmurrayreview of upgrade failure issues15:10
bdmurraydoko, vorlon ?15:11
bdmurrayin the meantime any questions on status?15:11
sil2100None here!15:11
bdmurrayokay lets move on15:11
bdmurray#topic Release Incoming Bugs15:12
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bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:12
bdmurraybug 189043515:12
ubottubug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189043515:12
xnoxdoko:  any advice in that bug would be helpful! ^15:13
xnoxi know it is very vague15:13
xnoxhowever, there is gcc-10 in unapproved with a revert/bugfix for arm....15:14
dokochristian wanted to check if it's reproducible with older compiler versions. otoh, such bisecting is difficult with an unreliable reproducer15:15
bdmurraygiven that it isn't very reproducible we'll hold off on taking it15:16
bdmurraythe dbus issue still doesn't have a reproducer15:18
bdmurraythe update-notifier cronjob is already being worked on15:18
bdmurraybug 189744415:19
ubottubug 1897444 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot find and translate the new Active Directory strings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189744415:19
bdmurraysomething about ubiquity translations being out of date?15:19
bdmurraylet's follow up with desktop about that15:21
sil2100+115:21
bdmurraybug 189479215:21
ubottubug 1894792 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Cannot assemble dirty degraded IMSM raid5 with --force." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189479215:21
xnoxbdmurray:  we should take it15:22
bdmurraymclemenceau: can you create a card for that15:23
bdmurraybug 1897173 - sil2100 that was fixed with the new kernel correct?15:23
ubottubug 1897173 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "20.10 Installer crashes with partitions being written but unable to inform kernel of the change" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189717315:23
mclemenceauyou got it15:24
sil2100Yep o/15:25
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:25
bdmurrayI guess bug 1871268 is being worked on15:26
ubottubug 1871268 in glibc (Ubuntu Focal) "Installation fails with Could not configure 'libc6:i386'. , E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187126815:26
bdmurraybug 187215915:26
ubottubug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "booting with splash hangs when external monitors are connected" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187215915:26
bdmurrayI think this plymouth one is really for desktop15:27
bdmurraybug 189660815:28
ubottubug 1896608 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "[regression-in-stable] grub-multi-install fails with exit 1 when question grub-efi/install_devices_empty is skipped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189660815:28
xnoxmine15:28
bdmurraycool15:28
sil2100\o/15:28
sil2100Michael will be happy15:28
bdmurrayDid we talk about bug 1888726 already?15:29
ubottubug 1888726 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "systemd-udevd regression: some renamed network interfaces stuck in "pending" state" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188872615:29
slyonwe have a card for that15:29
bdmurraywell let's target it and remove the tags15:30
slyonack15:30
bdmurraythat's that then for bugs15:30
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report15:30
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vorlonvery short list, which is good at this point in the cycle15:31
bdmurrayprocps was my upload so I guess that's on me15:31
vorlon[LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:31
vorlonrbalint: anything to say wrt google-compute-engine-oslogin + gce-compute-image-packages?15:31
rbalintvorlon, i'm waiting for MIR team's response on google-guest-agent MIR15:31
rbalintalso lintian: https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/+merge/39146415:32
vorlonyeah, which I've said I'm not keen on...15:32
vorlonwas anyone looking at the MIR side of the lintian unblock?15:32
rbalintvorlon, is it a good time/place to discuss it further?15:32
vorlonmight as well15:32
vorlonthe problem with saying "we could support it even if it's not in main" is that things being in main is the way we track that it needs to have security support15:33
vorlonso just demoting it, without some plan for keeping it on the security team's radar, isn't good for us15:33
rbalint vorlon i guess this concern is mostly about devscripts15:34
dokothat's the same for a lot of build tools15:34
vorlondevscripts isn't just build tools; they're tools run on developers' systems that interact with the network15:34
xnoxwhich we do not sru to keep working correctly15:34
vorlonI wasn't aware they needed srus?15:35
rbalintvorlon, both devscripts and lintian had security updates15:35
rbalintvorlon, should i get security team's consent to support them in universe?15:35
vorlonrbalint: that would be a prereq for demotion in my view, yes15:36
rbalintvorlon, would that be sufficient for the demotion?15:36
vorlonand in the meantime it might be quicker to just get the MIR done?15:36
dokobefore it gets done, it has to be written ...15:36
rbalintif the ack from security team would be sufficient than it may get done faster than the mirs15:37
vorlondoko: can you remind us which ones needed a written MIR vs a perl fast-track?15:37
vorlonrbalint: I am doubtful that they will give a quick ack :)15:37
dokodiscount, which is not maintained by the perl group15:37
vorlonbecause they would need to have process in place for tracking it before they could just commit to supporting15:37
rbalintvorlon, maybe they surprise us :-)15:37
vorlonok, gobject-introspection look like it's only blocked by freeze15:42
bdmurrayokay, we've got a plan for lintian wha'ts next?15:42
vorlonsil2100: will we unblock that post-beta?15:42
vorlonand then procps was already mentioned by bdmurray, that's his15:42
sil2100Yeah, we'll drop the freeze15:42
vorlonso that's all15:43
sil2100(on britney)15:43
xnoxi thought you keep freeze through to the release......15:43
sil2100(queue freeze stays)15:43
xnoxi thought we did that before15:43
xnoxoh, ok.15:43
vorlonand that's the list15:43
vorlonbdmurray:15:43
bdmurray#AOB15:43
bdmurray#topic AOB15:44
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sil2100Beta being released today!15:44
bdmurrayWhile reviewing more release upgrade bugs I'm finding more duplicates of bug 188754415:44
ubottubug 1887544 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 fails to calculate if python-pyqt5-dbg is installed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188754415:44
vorlon\o/15:44
slyonI will be out tomorrow..15:45
xnoxbdmurray:  and they are recent right? with latest/greatest release-upgrader?15:45
bdmurrayand my MP was frowned upon15:45
bdmurrayhttps://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+git/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+merge/38851315:45
rbalinti will be probably out on Monday and Tuesday15:45
rbalintmy fix is promising at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+git/glibc/+merge/391704 so i may land a new glibc to groovy and focal15:55
bdmurrayone other thing I noticed when reviewing upgrade bugs is that ubuntu-release-upgrader recommends using ppa-purge to remove ppas15:56
bdmurrayI wonder if u-r-u should depend on ppa-purge15:56
bdmurrayBecause somebody went searching for ppa-surge in software center and didn't find it.15:57
vorlonit's currently in univere15:59
vorlons15:59
bdmurrayYeah, that's true.15:59
vorlonare we happy maintaining it?15:59
bdmurrayGiven that we tell people to use it, we probably should be.16:00
vorlonor stop recommending it :)16:00
vorlonbut yeah, worth investigating16:00
bdmurrayThe alternative being to tell people to use --allow-third-party?16:01
bdmurrayalright, thanks everybody16:01
bdmurray#endmeeting16:01
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Oct  1 16:01:34 2020 UTC.16:01
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-10-01-15.01.moin.txt16:01
xnoxrbalint  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/473341946/UbiquitySyslog.txt16:15
xnoxrbalint:  i think it's just bogus message and bogus return code from apt17:06
xnoxi don't see antyhing wrong from dpkg, and dpkg did configure libc6:i38617:06
xnoxit may not have done so immediately but it did succeed.17:07
rbalintxnox, yes, i've traced the dpkg calls and those were ok on their own when i replayed them17:12
xnoxrbalint:  also said message should only appear if immediate-configure-all was requested..... but we never do that.17:28
tai271828o/20:00
diddledan\o20:00
tai271828hi everyone I registered the application of ubuntu membership https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards20:00
tai271828and I think the meeting/interview will begin soon here?20:00
Wild_Manhi tai27182820:01
bashfulrobot0/20:01
tai271828hi Wild_Man20:01
bashfulrobotok, so we should likely kick this off.20:03
tai271828that's great, thanks!20:03
bashfulrobottai271828: having a look at your wiki page, it looks like you are still quite active. Especially as you are working with Canonical directly as well.20:04
diddledanwe need to get meetingology to record us20:04
diddledanI'm looking for the script20:04
bashfulrobotmy bad. sorry.20:04
bashfulrobotšŸ‘20:05
tai271828no problem, please take your time.20:05
Wild_ManPlease do diddledan I am on my hotspot and may lose connection20:05
tai271828bashfulrobot: yeah still active I would say : )20:05
bashfulrobotdiddledan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology20:05
bashfulrobotdiddledan: I have never run it, want me to take a crack at it, or are you on it?20:07
diddledanI'm sure we had a wiki page for the meeting procedures20:07
diddledanas in specific to this meeting :-)20:08
bashfulrobotI linked to the meetingology page above.20:08
bashfulrobotahh ok.20:08
bashfulrobotI have never seen that20:08
bashfulrobotdiddledan: I do not see one in the wiki (via search) or linked from the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership home.20:12
diddledan!startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board20:14
ubottudiddledan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:14
diddledan.startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board20:14
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diddledanoh20:14
diddledan#startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board20:14
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Oct  1 20:14:45 2020 UTC.  The chair is diddledan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:14
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diddledan#chair diddledan20:15
meetingologyCurrent chairs: diddledan20:15
tai271828\o/20:15
diddledanHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 1st October 2020. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards20:15
diddledanWe will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.20:15
diddledanThe format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).20:16
diddledanEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.20:16
diddledanDuring this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.20:16
diddledanWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the majority of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)20:16
diddledanNow, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...20:16
diddledan#topic tai27182820:16
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* tai271828 is reading20:16
diddledanHi, tai271828, could you introduce yourself and link to your wiki page please? The board will take a moment to read through your page and then we'll get to questions20:17
bashfulrobothttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/tai271828 (have it handy)20:17
tai271828thank bashfulrobot20:18
tai271828I have been using Ubuntu since 2006 and it is 6.06 (Dapper Drake), and I have been working for Canonical Ltd. for 7 years since 2013.20:18
tai271828I was an experimental particle physic scientist to try to improve the measurement of the neutrino mass in the Dayabay collaboration. For loving science and FLOSS software, I spent a lot of my time to combine both of them. A good daily machine with a good distribution is a foundation to let me engage myself to devote my energy to work on them (FLOSS and science), so I would like to work on Ubuntu.20:18
tai271828and my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tai271828 (re-paste again)20:18
oerheksimpressive reading, tai !!20:19
diddledanyup, there's lots to like! :-)20:19
bashfulrobotsuper strong20:19
tai271828thank you very much : D20:20
Wild_ManVery impressive20:20
Maiknice one tai271828. respect.20:20
diddledanok. I'll open the floor for any questions from the board delegates20:21
Wild_ManI have no questions looks very strong20:21
diddledanme too, I don't have any questions, either :-)20:21
oerheksI do know not all Canonical workers are member too, What makes you take this step today?20:21
tai271828oerheks: there are two reasons:20:22
tai2718281) one for my daily job so I could triage public bugs on Launchpad more easily for working on arm server enablement recently if I am granted the ubuntu membership permission20:23
tai2718282) The other is for my personal commitment. I regard myself as a member of Ubuntu community (at least for the local community) for years but not seriously take more actions besides giving some short and small knowledge, user experience, or best practice sharing with friends from my local community. I should and I could promote Ubuntu with a more proactive mindset. By getting the membership it means something20:24
tai271828ritual for me to make a commitment to myself and the community.20:24
Wild_ManOnly candidate and board members should be asking questions or talking at this time please20:26
bashfulrobotI had read the wiki entry earlier today, and found it to be very comprehensive. So I have no further questions and I am ready to vote.20:26
bashfulrobot(not to rush things)20:26
Wild_ManI am ready to vote20:27
diddledanokie dokie.. if everyone's ready I'll fire off the voting bot20:27
diddledan#vote Membership application of tai27182820:27
meetingologyPlease vote on: Membership application of tai27182820:27
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:27
diddledan#voters bashfulrobot, diddledan, Wild_Man20:27
meetingologyCurrent voters: Wild_Man bashfulrobot diddledan20:27
Wild_Man+120:27
meetingology+1 received from Wild_Man20:27
bashfulrobot+120:27
meetingology+1 received from bashfulrobot20:27
diddledan+120:27
meetingology+1 received from diddledan20:27
diddledan#votesrequired 220:28
meetingologyvotes now need 2 to be passed20:28
diddledan#endvote20:28
meetingologyVoting ended on: Membership application of tai27182820:28
meetingologyVotes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:28
meetingologyMotion carried20:28
diddledanthat was nice and easy :-)20:28
tai271828\o/20:28
bashfulrobotWelcome !20:28
diddledanCongratulations tai271828 :-)20:28
tai271828thanks everyone20:28
bashfulrobotšŸŽ‰20:28
Wild_ManCongratulations20:28
diddledanWith that, as you're the only applicant for this meeting I'll close off the meeting20:29
diddledan#endmeeting20:29
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Oct  1 20:29:06 2020 UTC.20:29
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-10-01-20.14.moin.txt20:29
diddledanI'll do the email20:29
bashfulrobotthanks diddledan20:29
Wild_ManThanks diddledan20:29
Maiktai271828: congrats :)20:30
tai271828I am glad to become one of you!20:30
tai271828thank you the membership board for your time (and email : ) ) and effort. I appreciate that. Wild_Man  bashfulrobot diddledan20:33
bashfulrobottai271828: thanks for your contributions and time in the meeting today. šŸ‘20:33
Wild_ManYour welcome tai27182820:34
Maiko/22:02
diddledanhello hello. I'm not certain we'll make a quorum this time around.22:03
Wild_ManHello\22:04
Maikdiddledan: oh, ok. We'll see then.22:04
diddledanping bashfulrobot, tsimonq222:05
bashfulrobotI'm going up my elevator right now, I'll be back online as soon as possible.22:06
diddledanokie dokie22:06
* diddledan pulls the script up again22:06
Maik:)22:06
diddledan#startmeeting Ubuntu membership board22:07
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Oct  1 22:07:18 2020 UTC.  The chair is diddledan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.22:07
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick22:07
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diddledan#chair diddledan22:07
meetingologyCurrent chairs: diddledan22:07
diddledanHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 1st October 2020 (22:00 UTC). The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards22:08
diddledanWe will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.22:08
diddledanThe format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).22:08
diddledanEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.22:08
diddledanDuring this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.22:08
diddledanWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the majority of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)22:08
diddledanNow, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...22:08
diddledan#topic Nisankh Acharjya22:08
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diddledanNisankh appears to be absent?22:09
Wild_Mandiddledan, appears so22:10
diddledanI guess we'll move on22:10
diddledan#topic Rudra Saraswat22:10
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diddledanRudra, I know it's late where you are, 3am. If you're here, could you introduce yourself and post a link to your wiki page?22:12
bashfulrobotI am back.22:13
diddledano/22:13
Wild_Mano/22:13
bashfulrobotI am watching but may be a little silent (middle of my work day)22:13
bashfulroboto/22:13
Maikdiddledan: rudra seems to have some connection issues. He wrote a message but doesn't seem to appear he said on telegram22:15
Maikhe's re-connecting at the moment22:16
diddledanok22:16
Maikthere he is22:16
rs2009Hi, My wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rs200922:16
rs2009I'm Rudra Saraswat. I study in Grade 6. Iā€™m a Linux enthusiast and am passionate about Open Source.22:17
rs2009I've been using Ubuntu since 2017 and have been active on Ubuntu Discourse (Ubuntu Community Hub) since July 2019.22:17
rs2009I like to develop Linux distributions, either from scratch or based on distributions like Debian and Ubuntu. I created Ubuntu Unity Remix in May 2020, and have been maintaining the project ever since. The project now has a good following and has received good reviews as well. I'm on the Unity7 Maintainers' team and have created a debugging tool for Unity7 (called Devunity).22:17
rs2009I also created UbuntuEd Remix, an educational spin of Ubuntu for students ranging from pre-school to university level. This aims to fill the gap left by the discontinued Edubuntu flavour. I've created i386-arm, that sets up an emulated Debian i386 (Stretch) environment on an ARM computer/SBC.22:17
rs2009I like to develop operating systems in C and Assembly. Iā€™m an Android App Developer (native Java & XML), and love BASH scripting and coding in C# and C. I do some web development too and love video/photo editing with Kdenlive and Krita.22:17
diddledanok, do any of the board delegates present have any questions?22:20
Wild_ManNo I don't pretty impressive22:21
bashfulrobotrs2009: I know you have been working on the remix edition since May. How have you found that task has brought you into the core Ubuntu community (vs an isolated endeavour)?22:21
rs2009bashfulrobot: Earlier also I had created a KDE edition of Raspbian which never got any attention. It was only after Ubuntu Unity that people started noticing my work. So, now I feel like a core part of the Ubuntu community.22:23
bashfulrobotIn what way?22:23
bashfulrobotFor example, have you been interacting with people upstream? and if so, in which ways?22:24
rs2009For example, I'm now on the Unity7 Maintainers' Team and push my fixes quite easily compared to earlier. Also, I feel more responsible now since I have to maintain these projects and satisfy the community22:25
rs2009I've contibuted upstream to Unity Tweak Tool, for example.22:25
Wild_Manrs2009 is unity7 Maintainers team still very active? do you collaborate often with other team members?22:25
rs2009Wild_Man: Yes, I generally collaborate with k_alam directly.22:26
bashfulrobotI am good for questions.22:27
rs2009Wild_Man: It is mostly for bugfixes, since Unity7 is still in maintenance mode22:27
Wild_ManOkay22:28
diddledanany more questions, or are we ready to vote?22:28
rs2009 I'm now more actively developing for the community, like the one I released just today22:28
bashfulrobotI am ready to vote.22:28
Wild_ManI am ready to vote22:28
diddledanok. here goes the vote:22:30
diddledan#vote Rudra's membership application22:30
meetingologyPlease vote on: Rudra's membership application22:30
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)22:30
diddledan#voters bashfulrobot, Wild_Man, diddledan22:32
meetingologyCurrent voters: Wild_Man bashfulrobot diddledan22:32
bashfulrobotrs2009: We actually forgot to ask about your UbuntuEd22:33
bashfulrobotWould you mid another question?22:33
rs2009sure22:33
rs2009Should I describe UbuntuEd?22:34
bashfulrobotWith your focuses on remixes at this point, can you describe how you plan to take the work you do there and bring it to the Ubuntu (official) ecosystems?22:34
Wild_Manrs2009, what version of Ubuntu is UbuntuEd, based on? what DE does it use?22:34
rs2009Wild_Man: UbuntuEd is based on Ubuntu 20.04 and offers both Unity7 and GNOME22:35
bashfulrobotAnd yes to describing your goals with UbuntuEd.22:35
rs2009bashfulrobot: I'm currently focussing on Ubuntu Unity Remix, and intend to keep LTS releases for UbuntuEd. But I'll be adding metapackages for UbuntuEd regularly.22:36
diddledanare you investigating the process for graduating from remix to official flavour?22:38
rs2009  I first plan to apply for official flavour status for Ubuntu Unity Remix.22:38
diddledanaah you beat me :-)22:38
bashfulrobotrs2009: With your focuses on remixes at this point, can you describe how you plan to take the work you do there and bring it to the Ubuntu (official) ecosystems? (beyond flavour application)...22:38
rs2009diddledan: Yes, I do regular releases in sync with Ubuntu releases and am following the recommended processes.22:39
diddledanok, let's vote :-)22:39
bashfulrobotšŸ‘22:40
Wild_ManYes let's vote22:40
diddledanok, the vote is still open - I opened it up there šŸ‘† so give your votes and it'll recognise them22:41
bashfulrobot+122:41
diddledan#votesrequired 222:41
meetingology+1 received from bashfulrobot22:41
meetingologyvotes now need 2 to be passed22:41
diddledan+122:41
meetingology+1 received from diddledan22:41
Wild_Man+122:41
meetingology+1 received from Wild_Man22:41
wxl+1 looking forward to the new unity flavor shortly22:42
diddledan#voters bashfulrobot, Wild_Man, wxl, diddledan22:42
meetingologyCurrent voters: Wild_Man bashfulrobot diddledan wxl22:42
wxloops22:42
diddledanand again, wxl22:42
wxl+1 looking forward to the new unity flavor shortly22:42
meetingology+1 looking forward to the new unity flavor shortly received from wxl22:42
wxltoo fast22:42
diddledanhaha22:42
diddledan#endvote22:42
meetingologyVoting ended on: Rudra's membership application22:42
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:022:42
meetingologyMotion carried22:42
rs2009Thank you very much :)22:42
diddledanCongratulations Rudra :-)22:42
bashfulrobotrs2009: welcome aboard!22:42
rs2009Thank you very much :)22:42
Maikcongrats rs200922:42
Wild_ManThank you rs2009 and congratulations22:43
rs2009Thanks Maik :)22:43
diddledan#topic Maik Adamietz22:43
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rs2009Thanks Wild_Man!22:43
bashfulrobotHighly encourage to take up your packaging goals. There is always work to be done there within the entire ecosystem.22:43
diddledanHello, Maik, could you introduce yourself and post a link to your wiki page, please?22:43
Maiksure :)22:43
MaikHi, i'm Maik Adamietz. Linux enthusiast and hobbyist. I've been using Ubuntu since 7.04 Feisty Fawn and was impressed by this new OS which i was introduced to by a member on a music related forum. I kept using Ubuntu as my daily driver ever since on at least one of my machines.22:43
MaikAt some point i joined the Dutch Ubuntu NL community where i gave user support and decided to join the forum team. That way i became a moderator, then forum administrator and acted like a community manager for a while. I was also involved with Ubuntu BE for a shorter period of time.22:43
MaikI had to step down because of other priorities in life which were work and family related. But that didn't stop my involvement in the community, using Ubuntu and giving user support.22:44
MaikCurrently i'm also involved with the Ubuntu Unity project acting as moderator, admin, keep an eye on the irc channel and give user support on the support media (the forums, Telegram and IRC). I use this remix next to Ubuntu, simply because i always liked the Unity desktop and think that Rudra has done a great job on it.22:44
MaikAfter talking to wxl last week about what i have done with Ubuntu so far, when i mentioned i would love to get involved some more as IRC Op and/or moderator, he suggested i should apply for a Ubuntu Membership.22:45
MaikThe Ubuntu Membership would mean a lot to me and i see it as a achievement in my life which will boost my love, passion, motivation and devotion for Ubuntu and it's community even more. Here's my wikipage for more information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Maik22:45
wxlMaik: since you had to step down, you've still been helping in official Ubuntu IRC channels and forums? like answering questions, not necessarily being moderator/administrator?22:46
Maikwxl: yes but mostly on the Dutch Ubuntu NL forum, i joined irc once in a while but am back now, logged in 24/7 and try to give support in my spare time.22:47
bashfulrobotmaik Thank you for the intro! As you may have noticed on our previous member questions, we really try to understand the ongoing sustained (6+ months) Ubuntu contributions. :-) When did you join the Unity project?22:48
bashfulrobotMaik: (tag did not seem to work). ā˜ļø22:48
diddledanwfm ;-p22:48
* bashfulrobot šŸ¤¦22:49
wxlMaik: what's your username on the NL forum?22:49
wxl(a link to your profile would suffice)22:49
Maikbashfulrobot: i joined Ubuntu Unity since June/July but been active on and off 13+years at Ubuntu in general22:50
Maikwxl: that would be a problem since my old account on Ubuntu NL isn't active anymore22:51
wxlMaik: but surely there's a new one you've been using?22:52
Maikyes but it's one from just recently. My old account was DarkEra, the new one is M_aD on Ubuntu NL22:53
bashfulrobotMaik: Can you maybe describe some of your more recent contributions over the last year?22:54
Maikwxl: here's an older topic from my old account: https://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/index.php?topic=43187.msg433574#msg43357422:54
wxlMaik: what about an example from the new one?22:54
Maikbashfulrobot: over the last year, when i had the time, i've been trying to help on IRC and the NL forum and then with Ubuntu Unity. It was a bit difficult to be more active due my job.22:57
diddledanhow do you plan to progress your contribution in the coming months?22:58
Maikwxl: here's a recent one: https://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/index.php?topic=108364.msg1053054#msg105305422:58
Maikdiddledan: trying to be more active on IRC and the forums providing constructive answers that can help other users22:59
Wild_ManMaik how often do you think you answer questions and how far back did you start answering questions again?]23:01
wxlMaik: do you have a link to your profile on the ubuntu unity forums?23:04
MaikWild_Man: at least more often than i did lately if i know or find the answer a user is looking for. How far back i started again is hard to tell but it has been some months ago, lost count though.23:05
Maikwxl: sure, https://www.foss.ubuntuunity.org/forums/profile23:06
rs2009Wild_Man: I can verify the claim, being the lead of Ubuntu Unity. He actively helps community members and extremely active. I doubt he sleeps. :)23:06
wxloh that didn't work23:06
wxlwhat's your username there?23:06
Maikkeep in mind though i was active before the new forum was set up23:06
Wild_Manrs2009, has he been active for the last six months23:06
Maikwxl:  M_aD23:07
rs2009Wild_Man: Ubuntu Unity was created in May, 5 months ago. He joined maybe a month later. He is extremely active on Telegram. The forums are not used much at the moment by the community, but he.23:08
rs2009> he's active there as well.23:08
MaikWild_Man: i've been active in the Ubuntu and Ubuntu NL community itself throughout the last 12+ years, sometimes more sometimes less.23:09
Maikmost of my time i spend with Ubuntu NL23:10
diddledanwe're over the hour mark, is everyone ok if I move onto the votes?23:11
bashfulrobotyes23:12
bashfulrobotI am23:12
wxli'm ready23:12
rs2009Before the voting starts, I would like to say that I support Maik's application. (testimonial as described in Wiki)23:12
diddledanthanks, rs200923:13
Maikrs2009: thank you23:13
diddledan#vote Maik's application for Ubuntu Membership23:13
meetingologyPlease vote on: Maik's application for Ubuntu Membership23:13
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)23:13
diddledan#voters bashfulrobot, wxl, diddledan, wild_man23:14
meetingologyWarning: Nick not in channel: wild_man23:14
meetingologyCurrent voters: Wild_Man bashfulrobot diddledan wild_man wxl23:14
diddledan#nick wild_man23:14
diddledan#voters bashfulrobot, wxl, diddledan, wild_man23:14
meetingologyCurrent voters: Wild_Man bashfulrobot diddledan wild_man wxl23:14
wxl+1 glad to see you back in the community and hope to see you more23:14
meetingology+1 glad to see you back in the community and hope to see you more received from wxl23:14
bashfulrobot+1 While the current is a little short, has a longer history.23:14
meetingology+1 While the current is a little short, has a longer history. received from bashfulrobot23:14
diddledan0 I'd like to see a little bit more recent evidence but it's not a deal breaker considering your longer term history so I'm going to abstain23:15
meetingology0 I'd like to see a little bit more recent evidence but it's not a deal breaker considering your longer term history so I'm going to abstain received from diddledan23:15
diddledan#votesrequired 223:15
meetingologyvotes now need 2 to be passed23:15
diddledan#action wild_man 023:16
meetingologyACTION: wild_man 023:16
diddledan#action wild_man 0 wild_man also abstained but had to disconnect23:16
meetingologyACTION: wild_man 0 wild_man also abstained but had to disconnect23:16
diddledan#endvote23:16
meetingologyVoting ended on: Maik's application for Ubuntu Membership23:16
meetingologyVotes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:123:16
meetingologyMotion carried23:16
diddledancongratulations Maik23:17
bashfulrobotWelcome!23:17
wxlhorray!23:17
oerheksCongrats and welcome, Maik23:17
Maikthank you very much all :)23:17
rs2009Congratulations Maik! :)23:17
Maikthanks rs200923:17
diddledanand also congrats, rs200923:17
bashfulrobotšŸŽ‰23:17
diddledanwith that, and 20 minutes over time, I'm going to call an end to the meeting :-)23:18
diddledan#endmeeting23:18
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Oct  1 23:18:12 2020 UTC.23:18
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-10-01-22.07.moin.txt23:18
rs2009Thanks, diddledan! :)23:18
Maiki should have grabbed a beer instead of a mug coffee23:18
rs2009Thanks, bashfulrobot! :)23:18
bashfulrobotno worries!23:18
bashfulrobotI have to jump to my meeting.23:19
bashfulrobotHave a good day all.23:19
wxltake care all!23:19
Maikbashfulrobot: take care, have a nice one and thanks again23:19
Maikwxl: likewise :)23:19
rs2009Good day to all! :)23:19
bashfulrobotMaik: have a good one!23:19
Maikthanks23:20

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