[00:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_System_Partition [00:00] ...such as which ubuntu version you're using, whether this is a fresh installation, how and what you installed. [00:00] fresh [00:00] or how you ended up in this situation [00:00] remove all [00:01] in more than single words, ideally. [00:01] tomreyn: i totally agree [00:01] theyre a troll [00:02] i see [00:12] Why do the ubuntu install dvd's rely on a symbolic and or a hard-link ? [00:13] has everybody forgotton that the only truly useful file system for smaller usb-sticks is vfat ? [00:13] !discuss | lapion [00:13] lapion: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [00:13] and vfat cannot handle symbolic or hardlinks [00:15] lapion: the ubuntu install ISO's are ISO 9660 filesystem, not vfat [00:15] I know but mosty systems cannot boot from an isofs directly copied to a partition or a device other than a dvd/cd [00:16] and a directly copied isofs to a device renders the rest of the usb-stick useless [00:16] lapion: you can use the ubuntu startup disc creator or something like etcher to flash an iso to a flash drive which will work just fine [00:17] A 128GB usb stick becomes a 2.8GB readonly sitck [00:17] lapion: and you're only using it to install an OS [00:17] lapion: also, who spends bank of a 128G flash drive just to install an OS? [00:17] leftyfb, no that's not possible because most of those use vfat and vfat cannot do symbolic- and hard-links so the stick cannot scan the filesystem [00:18] leftyfb, I do put other data on it.. === benfrancis1 is now known as benfrancis [00:18] such as packages I want to have with me to not rely on other peoples internet.. [00:18] lapion: flashing an iso using the ubuntu startup disc creator or etcher will wipe the filesystem on a flash drive in order to flash the iso. That's how it works [00:19] mkusb can use the free part as persistence [00:19] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb [00:19] no leftyfb that's how it works with the current ubuntu default installer which I stopped using the moment it started doing that [00:20] an iso filesystem on a sub stick is not bootable on everything but a system with a really good uefi. [00:20] usb [00:21] iso is hybrid, legacy mbr and uefi [00:21] lapion: ISO_9660 and EFI standards would disagree with you [00:22] leftyfb, okay so you have all those new devices on which you install linux but most systems out there are older efi systems that are not fully compatible and of course then you have legacy boot systems [00:23] hi, thanks, I'm connecting from ubuntu now [00:23] but anyhow not any part of the boot system should rely on a symbolic link [00:23] lapion: do you have a support question? [00:23] that's just wrong [00:24] it's been and still is a discussion, which i pointed out in the start [00:24] a symbolic link is just too unreliable to be used in a critical system [00:24] not the first time, but lapion keeps ignoring it. [00:26] If it would be useful I will set the question is a different manner. [00:30] Sorry guys the problem is moot.. [00:35] porbably due to extracting the iso image with engrampa or some other extract0r somehow probably filenames or folders got extracted with the wrong filenames due to which the boot could not checksum the files [00:36] Yesterday I mounted the iso as a loop device and copied the files and that resolved the problems.. [00:50] I have cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list and I read that I should comment it out to install the nvidia driver. Is that really okay? [00:51] i don't see how the two are related. but unless you would like to keep the cdrom available on your drive, commenting it out should be fine. [00:52] now what did you read aexactly, and what's your ultimate goal? [00:55] if this is a live system, why install nvidia? [00:56] eh what is live, I just installed it [00:56] hi tomreyn, I'm installing the non-free driver nvidia-driver-450 but it says "Please insert the disc labeled Ubuntu [...] Focal Fossa [...] in the drive /cdrom" and I installed from an usb so I'm not sure how. Hence I googled and it said delete the cdrom in sources.list [00:56] oh oke, odd, then the cdrom would be disabled in your update-settings [00:56] I'm installing ubuntu on a PC but it can't install updates because my Wifi Adatpr dongle needs it's drive stuff which it's only set up to install on windows [00:57] hackinghorn: does this system have internet access? [00:58] yes yeah it does [00:58] I'm chatting with you on it lol [00:58] hackinghorn: on Ubuntu or Windows? [00:58] eh on ubuntu [00:58] I think I need a way to download the proper drivers and transfer them via another USB disc so that it can connect to internet and do all the other ubdates [00:58] hackinghorn: then just disable the cdrom sources, ensure standard apt sources are configured, and install any pending updates before you install the nvidia proprietary driver. [00:59] UbuntuDongle, what wifi adapter exactly? [00:59] !repos | hackinghorn [00:59] hackinghorn: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [00:59] tomreyn, ahh thankss [00:59] I think I can do it now [01:01] DWA-171 [01:01] UbuntuDongle: do you have ethernet port [01:01] yes and an ethernet cable but I don't really have any experience using it [01:01] right now I'm able to access internet on a laptop that runs windows but my desktops definitely can't run it [01:02] actually thinking Ubuntu might be a bit heavy for this desktop... it appears to have locked up during the partitioning stage of the installation [01:02] UbuntuDongle: Ubuntu is more lightweight than Windows [01:02] I might need to try Lubuntu again or maybe something even smaller [01:02] this thing seemed to upgrade to windows 10 fine for a few weeks then just kept stallin on startup so I figured good time to make a new start [01:03] UbuntuDongle: then maybe you should look into hardware problems like overheating [01:03] the LVM was supposed to make things easier :( [01:03] that could be it, maybe I ought to clean it out again, though I barely used it [01:04] this all started when I unhooked it... now I'm wondering if maybe I left it where too much sunlight got at it === zbenjamin is now known as Guest20499 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:05] UbuntuDongle, like leftyfb says check for overheating. Have you checked for dust in your system ? [01:06] I cleaned it when I inherited it, definitely used to be a lot of dust but shouldn't be there again [01:06] guess it's worth a shot though [01:06] of course I think I already wiped windows 10 off it [01:06] leftyfb, oerheks and tomreyn sorry for the rant.. [01:06] basically did a factory reset then the free upgrade trick [01:06] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1164356/ubuntu-18-04-dlink-dwa171-revc-shows-as-a-memory-stick [01:07] yeah I came across that, but doing update commands seems pointless if it's not connected [01:07] like I would need to DL the update and then copy it over somehow [01:07] lapion: i don't mind you bringing up discussions, just do it in the right place, please. [01:07] find a way to do this on wired networking. [01:08] tomreyn, I came at the problem from the wrong angle.. [01:09] tomreyn, I found that nvidia provides a driver for this on their website, can that work? [01:09] UbuntuDongle, what kind of usb stick do you use to connect ? [01:09] hackinghorn: what is "this"? [01:09] but I'm doing what you said, not downloading that [01:09] tomreyn, for my card, on Linux 64bit [01:10] hackinghorn: which ubuntu version is this? [01:10] I used a 4GB stick to try and install ubuntu (kinda froze up it seems) and a D-Link DWA-171 AC600 MU-MIMO Wi-Fi USB ADaptor is what I want to use [01:10] UbuntuDongle, does any list of wifi-networks show up in the indicator applet ? [01:10] I think thse desktops had internal stuff that wore out [01:10] tomreyn, ehh focal fossa, nvm, I think I got this [01:10] no, these are old and I think had corded antennae you screw in [01:11] but they do nothing [01:11] hackinghorn: you should use the nvidia drivers packaged in ubuntu, not those available from nvidia.com [01:11] UbuntuDongle, open up a terminal and do lsusb and see if the wifi dongle is in the list of usb-devices [01:11] yeahh, I think so [01:13] then run rfkill to see if the wifi sitck isn't soft-disabled.. === Kon- is now known as Kon [01:16] hackinghorn, the latest nvidia drivers included in the distro have made huge leaps in the stability and performance during 2019 [01:16] ahh I see, thankss lapion [01:16] heh I'm back [01:17] brb, I will restart to test the driver [01:18] hackinghorn, the drivers are now working beyond even buggy uefi/bioses [01:19] I'll go try this on the desktop that's running lubuntu I guess [01:20] UbuntuDongle, what kind of desktop is it ? [01:21] heh it works [01:21] 32bit processoer, 3gb ram, 500gb space [01:21] UbuntuDongle, what processor ? [01:21] the driver is working, thanks a lot tomreyn lapion [01:22] np hackinghorn [01:22] you're welcome [01:22] UbuntuDongle, does the system have an intel or amd sticker on it ? [01:23] intel [01:24] btw when I put in this dongle it actually pops up like a USB stick [01:24] only two files on it are autorun.inf and setup.exe [01:25] UbuntuDongle, does the sticker say core2 duo or celeron or pethium II or anything besides intel ? [01:25] the article i gave, fixes that with usbmodeswitch [01:25] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1164356/ubuntu-18-04-dlink-dwa171-revc-shows-as-a-memory-stick [01:26] and howto build the driver .. [01:27] viiv Q6600 [01:28] UbuntuDongle, your system is 64bit [01:29] uname -m lists it as i686 so I think 32 [01:29] it's a pain since a lot of stuff isn't updated for that [01:30] UbuntuDongle, uname -m lists information of the kernel not the cpu [01:31] UbuntuDongle, create a usb stick or dvd with a ubuntu-64bit iso image and you will see that it should work fine on that system [01:32] UbuntuDongle, if you have enough ram in that system it should run a fully-fledged ubuntu just fine since it is a core2 quad [01:32] a core2 quad is a quad core 64bit system [01:36] UbuntuDongle, your processor is equivalent of Intel Core i3-3220 performance whise [01:38] maybe originally, it's nearly 15 years old so it's probably equivalent of something pathetic now [01:38] or maybe processor is fine and it's just the wifi part that fails... the way an antenna has to attach is so weird\ [01:39] well I do have the USB stick prepped with the 64bit ubuntu iso installed [01:39] it failed n desktop 2 but I could try it out on desktop 1 that's running lubuntu now I guess [01:39] and I should clean out #2 tomorrow just in case [01:39] gonna sleep on it now, thanks for your help everyone\ === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly [04:00] Is there a way to delete a "profile" from a sound card? Every time after reboot the profile of the built-in sound card switches to "HiFi", and I need to run "pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload" and logout and back in again to see the correct profile "output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo" to be loaded. [04:11] Anyway to get rid of the ubuntu desktop guide keybind, its not in the settings [04:13] georged4s: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462670/set-default-profile-for-pulseaudio ? [04:13] WalterWhitesCook: what's the shortcut? [04:14] F1 [04:14] which Ubuntu version? [04:14] 20.04 [04:14] Its a laptop english keyboard [04:16] WalterWhitesCook: this could still be applicable: https://askubuntu.com/questions/449780/how-to-disable-f1-for-help-in-gnome [04:16] Thanks matsaman. I have tried that as well. I think that it is because the profile is not loaded, so when running "pactl set-card-profile " it throws this error "Failure: No such entity" === sjohnson is now known as snuggletits [04:17] matsaman. pactl set-card-profile 2 output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo [04:19] georged4s: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=327323 [04:19] but it might be easier to just add your known solution to an autostart script [04:20] it's pretty unlikely you actually have to log out & back in [04:21] Ahh got it! thanks matsaman :) [04:21] gj [04:34] I can use dconf-editor but cant add like in 14..04 [04:44] WalterWhitesCook: seems slim information; might take less time to remap F1 to something else, like F13 [04:44] and call it a day [04:44] #gnome might know better, though [04:50] ok [04:50] ill check in over in #gnome === WalterWhitesCoo1 is now known as WalterWhitesCook === BromaxSux1 is now known as BromaxSux [07:40] What's a good antivirus for Ubuntu with a decent GUI? I'm looking for something for 2 desktops [07:42] clamav, rkhunter .. [07:42] !antivirus [07:42] An "antivirus" is primarily a concept from the Windows ecosystem and usually a program like that is not needed on Linux because the threat model is different. Malware on Linux does exist, however. Google up "rkhunter" and "linux intrusion detection systems". Also look up !clamav [07:47] ktosiek: keeping your system always up to date is also a good protection [07:50] thanks! I'm up to date, mostly using software from apt, snapcraft and a bit of flathub. I have backups of personal data done with borgbackup, in an append-only mode. The thing I'm worried about is ransomware - I'll have to purge old backups from time to time, and at that point malware would be able to just wipe them. At that moment I'll need a [07:50] known clean system [07:50] hmm [07:52] ktosiek: any Os can be browser injected by 0day exploits, a good way of preventing access is not storing passwords in browsers, using vanilla user browsing, use sandboxes like firejail [07:53] but even then, I could just do that from a live USB, so maybe I'm overthinking it [07:53] ktosiek: be carefull with whom you trade usb sticks with, and not downloading things that arent trusted [07:54] ktosiek: on a liveusb, the kernel version is mostly behind then current, so connected for a long time to the internet could also hold dangers [07:54] an offline liveusb box is a good idea though [07:55] Not storing passwords in browsers? I'm pretty happy with Keepass<->Firefox integration, or do you only mean the builtin password manager? [07:55] ktosiek: yeah storing anything in a browser, when its hijacked, they can steal right [07:55] the less info stored the better [07:59] right, I have no idea how well the FF's password manager is separated from other parts of the browser. [07:59] Hmm, for some time now I don't see hdmi/dp devices in sound. As in there's no option for me at all to play sound via monitors. Is this a known bug? I've only noticed recently but it could be a long standing issue cause I usually don't use it. I'm on latest nvidia driver 450.66 and kernel 5.8.12. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. [08:00] Furai: did you try switching to another version of nvidia driver yet? [08:01] Furai: any reason you are on kernel 5.8? [08:04] Furai: can you check if the HDMI device is shown in the output of aplay -l? [08:14] In a typical makefile, why wouldn't this work? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3y55dmhGnM/ [08:14] Ubuntu 18.04 [08:16] !rootirc | dinis [08:16] dinis: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. [08:21] ktosiek: https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com/p/security.html#ID1.1 [08:22] according to the writer anti virus and root kit removers decrease your security [08:24] ktosiek, I don't see it in aplay -l. Actually now that I've asked it I remember that 5.6 introduced some problems with hdmi/display port devices. Current stable in ubuntu is 5.4, right? [08:24] Hello, what's the recommended way to report problems? E.g. Dash-to-dock has 500 open bugs with zero comments for ages on its github, so it seems its developed in-house/in a closed manner by Canonical. Next, mutter by default opens windows in top left corner on 20.04, how is this any good? I've changed it in dconf - org/mutter/center-new-window but that's just for me, and i'm sure that should be the default for anyone not to be confused. [08:25] Furai: my 20.04 is on 5.4, yes [08:25] tichun: bugs on ubuntu report to launchpad please [08:26] thanks [08:26] tichun: check first if your bug doesnt exist here yet: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0 [08:27] tichun: oh its dash to panel? gnome-shell-extension-dash-to-panel [08:38] In a typical makefile, why wouldn't this work? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3y55dmhGnM/ [08:38] hey, anyone free to help me debug a xubuntu boot from live usb? [08:42] eraserpencil: don't crosspost please [08:42] napster: try adding a simple target with "echo $(ARCH) $(ZMQLIB)" [08:43] eraserpencil: not that i can help but could you try to be more specific please about your issue? [08:46] napster: you probably want ARCH := $(shell uname -m) === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [08:47] maik: Sorry about that. I have a laptop, has Windows 10, 16.04 and 20.04.1 (all functioning fine). I wanna try out Xubuntu 20.04.1, so i placed it in a live usb made with Ventoy. In that USB, I have arch, ubuntu 16.04, Ubuntu 20.04.1, Xubuntu 20.04.1. For some odd reason, I could boot into Ubuntu 16.04 installer, and the one for arch, but not [08:47] Ubuntu 20.04.1 installer or Xubuntu 20.04.1 installer. [08:48] so it's a multi boot live stick then? [08:49] I do get thr grub menu options, but just blank screen past that, hoping to be able to configure the grub parameters to atleast output some logs so I could know whats wrong? but i havent had any luck with trying to switch tty after the grub menu [08:49] yes [08:49] made with Ventoy ?? [08:49] i have no experience with that, sorry [08:49] https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html [08:50] oh, never seen or read about that.. [08:50] eraserpencil: so what happens after you choose xubuntu for install? [08:50] i installed the current partitions using that, I'm not sure why I cant get pass the Grub menu. or even get logs about the booting process [08:51] i select xubuntu, i go to grub, i select "try xubuntu ..." blank screen [08:51] eraserpencil: F1 to textboot gives no errors at all? [08:51] nope [08:52] im not sure F1 did anything [08:52] i dont see any text [08:52] eraserpencil: you dont have secureboot enabled or so? [08:52] nope [08:52] eraserpencil: nvidia card? [08:52] yes nvidia card [08:53] wich chipset? [08:53] i did try "nomodeset" with grub [08:53] ah kk tnx [08:53] gtx1070 if thats what you're asking [08:53] yeah gtx cards result into blank a lot, needs nomodeset bypass [08:54] guiverc: did you notice any recent xubuntu 20.04.1 bugs lately? [08:54] nomodeset would be the same for other iso' s on that multi usb,... [08:54] so if i understand correctly, grub is unable to find the files to boot the kernel proper? [08:55] multi boot usb, not worth the trouble, IMHO [08:55] lotuspsychje, no i'm not aware of any sorry (none come to mind anyway) [08:55] eraserpencil: maybe to compare, with an usb stick made from ubuntu disk creator single? [08:56] okay, i'll give that a try. last question. in Grub, i see "file=/cdrom/preseed/xubuntu.seed" [08:56] is that correct? [09:37] hi, how to just download a release upgrade only? [09:38] irgendwer4711: more context please [09:38] there is no release upgrade package/iso, full iso with point release or daily builds [09:39] to do an do-release-upgrade wihtout installing, just download for later use [09:39] i don't think do-release-upgrade supports this scenario. [09:39] maybe another way? [09:40] none that's supported. why would you need this? [09:43] because of lame internet [09:47] there is the !offline method, not sure it covers release upgrades, i think not. [09:47] !offline [09:47] If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD [09:52] irgendwer4711: maybe you can download the iso and it offers a reinstall but leave your current system/packages/user files intact? [09:53] oerheks: its a server, no desktop [09:55] oh server, i hope it is not visible from the www, without updates. [09:55] what? dist-upgrade! [10:01] shopt -s autocd. can i change the config file, instead of .bashrc to run that cmd.... [10:01] i am looking for that alternative as it's faster [10:01] irgendwer4711: when you ask a question, please add as much info as possible so volunteers can advice you properly, ubuntu version, desktop/server, wich version to wich, etc see !details [10:01] similar to systemd [10:02] "shopt -s autocd" sounds like OSX [10:05] Saw on ask... that the Acer Aspire E5-511 and 20.04 do _not_ play well together. Can confirm. No keyboard or trackpad upon boot-up(!). Trying 18.04 now. [10:05] jlj: do you have a bug about that? [10:06] Hang on -- let me see whether that poster's filed it... [10:07] H'm... Actually, it may not have been reported yet: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1275809/ubuntu-20-04-lts-laptop-internal-keyboard-and-touchpad-no-longer-work [10:08] I'll do a bit more digging. Just sort of assumed... :-P [10:08] jlj: did you try this on a clean install/live 20.04.1 ? [10:11] Yeah, clean install of an image I'd burned, maybe a few weeks ago... Just checking... Yeah, it is 20.04.1. [10:11] "other posts on ask ubuntu suggested it's a bug in recent version of the linux kernel" [10:11] H'm, not the same as it's been reported as a bug... [10:12] jlj: i always advice when something doesnt work out of the box on ubuntu, affect to the existing bug, or file a new !bug [10:14] lotuspsychje: absolutely. Will do. Just so used to the community being on it, I guess. Cheers! [10:15] jlj: oh yeah, you did a good thing asking here, maybe volunteers know a solution, still its good for the dev knowing about the bug, so they can work on it [10:16] Gotcha! [10:34] <{g}> Howdy People! === sebastian is now known as tichun [10:36] Hi, do snap packages use some power saving methods? i can see vs code gets blank after not using it for a while, or maybe its on the applications part === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [10:58] I want to print an image at its actual size but it always prints full page. How can I print it smaller? [11:00] <{g}> lesshaste: How do you print it? [11:01] {g}, using eog currently but happy to use any other method [11:01] <{g}> lesshaste: Well, I have no idea. I print something maybe once a year. Maybe even less often. [11:02] <{g}> Every time I am surprised my old laserprinter still works perfectly. [11:02] not massively helpful :) [11:04] lesshaste: check if you have a "fit to page" or "shrink to page" option set in the printer driver or the applications' print settings [11:05] <{g}> lesshaste: I just print from whatever program opens the file. Usually Libre Office I think. It has a bunch of knobs and stuff for settings. [11:05] settings in cups, yes [11:06] i think all channels he asked gives the same answer [11:07] tomreyn, thanks [11:15] when I create a LUKS encrypted USB stick using gnome-disk-utility, and then mount it using the same utility (or Thunar), only root has write permissions to the directory [11:16] how can I make current user be able to write to the dir? [11:25] chown -R $USER /media/$USER/name_of_mount [11:28] tomreyn: so there's no graphical option to do it? only terminal? [11:29] oxek: there probably is, i just don't know. [11:30] sudo chown -R yourusername /media/nameofusbmount I'm not sure how to do by GUI because each FM has different method for open as admin [11:30] it's really odd that I can partition the stick, create a luks partition on it, and mount it - all without root privileges, but then I need root privileges to write files to it [11:31] I'm not that strong on permissions either. It's a headache but it makes the system safe too. [11:32] that command we gave you should change permissions for you if its owned by root though. [11:33] I'll see what I can do with it. Thank you both. [11:45] it works, thank you [11:45] :-) [12:06] hello. what is the command to run an application with the nvidia card? [12:06] it's 20.04 and official drivers from the official repository [12:12] thiras: errrr... if the drivers are installed properly everything runs through nvidia already.... [12:13] Maik, no it doesn't. i was launching the steam client with right click -> launch with dedicated graphic card button [12:14] but now steam got updated. that option has gone. instead there are shortcuts of steam (like store friends etc.) [12:14] i don't use steam so i can't tell. Maybe someone else knows. === akem_ is now known as JohnnyCage [12:30] Hi all [12:37] still looking for a solution [12:37] seems it's a fresh update no question on reddit or askubuntu [12:57] thiras: try asking over at steam === krisd_ is now known as krisd === KaptenRodSkagg1 is now known as KaptenRodSkagg [14:04] Is there a way to make the TouchPad only have a left and right clicks instead of also having a middle click? [14:04] In the settings I can only see "left click only" or "automatic" which results in 3 buttons. [14:04] I just want left and right. [14:08] greetings, how do I upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04? the usual method complains with "Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore" [14:08] isomari: i just responded to the same question you asked in #kubuntu at the same time [14:08] !crosspost | isomari [14:08] isomari: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [14:09] tomreyn: sorry. [14:25] I'm trying to rsync a mounted drive on a ubuntu live session to my server, however I get an error. rsync -a /mnt/lars lars@192.168.1.11:/home/lars/Is there a way to do this? [14:28] and the error message is? and which ubuntu version is the live session on, and what's running on the server at .11? [14:30] All errors har permission related, such as: rsync: [sender] send_files failed to open "/mnt/lars/.cert/nm-openvpn/ca-us13.nordvpn.com.tcp443-ca.pem": Permission denied (13) I've also tried with sudo-prefix. [14:30] Live session is 20.10, server is 20.04. [14:31] (I've ended up with the beta version due to extensive problems, ref https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2451324 [14:32] !ubuntu+1 [14:32] Groovy Gorilla is the codename for Ubuntu 20.10. For technical support, see #ubuntu+1. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [14:33] Ok. I believe this issue is non-specific to 20.10, but related to rsync, hence why I asked here. [14:34] !bootparm pci=noaer should help you work around the AER problems [14:34] tomreyn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:35] a bios upgrade may also help [14:36] Ok. How do I add !bootparm pci=noaer Is it possible to do that with boot-repair, or should I do it manually during boot? [14:37] alternatively, pcie_aspm=off , but this will increase power consumption [14:37] !bootparm | Skotten32 [14:37] !kernelparm | Skotten32 [14:37] Skotten32: To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters [14:38] Thank you. I'm using the machine with issues now so I need to log off to try. [14:38] about rsync, may not be specific to groovy, but until you've proven that, support is in #ubuntu+1 only [14:39] good luck [15:13] Hey ubuntu masters, first time install on an actual machine (I've used VM's for a while) - Ubuntu is incredibly slow to do anything [15:14] I'm on the live boot right now and it's snappy but booting to the install is crazy slow. Surface pro 4, booting from a USB hard drive. I'm not sure what logs to get to start diagnosing. [15:19] jpmiller25: if you have internet access: journalctl -b -p3 | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:19] I do, but from the live machine. The OS is installed on the usb drive which is mounted in media [15:19] is that command still OK to get you what you need? === [1997kB]`2 is now known as [1997kB]` [15:20] no [15:20] does it have wired internet access? [15:21] probably not, unless you're tethering. [15:22] or have a usb -> ethernet dingle [15:22] *dongle [15:35] sorry yall the live install kicked me off wifi and I had to reboot to get back on [15:35] I'm having a problem with my ubuntu install being incredibly slow, installed yesterday on usb3.0 drive on a surface pro 4 [15:36] I got it to complete update && upgrade yesterday but it took 4 hrs, hoped that would help the speed but it is still incredibly slow - takes 30 sec to 1 min to register a mouse click, wont even open software app [15:36] I'm currently on live drive with the OS install mounted under media [15:41] lotuspsychje: just to follow-up, it had been reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1894125 [15:41] Launchpad bug 1894125 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Acer ES511] Mousepad + Keyboard not working in kernel 5.4.0-45, but 5.4.0-42 works" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:43] jpmiller25: sudo journalctl -b -p3 --root /media/*/ 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:46] tomreyn: https://termbin.com/tb17 [15:46] says no journal file found [15:46] jpmiller25: ah, my bad. [15:47] sudo journalctl -b -p3 --root /media/$USER/* 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:47] jpmiller25: this assumes you only have mounted one file system to /media [15:48] otherwise, replace /media/$USER/* by the concrete mount point [15:48] i.e. what gio mount -l lists, but with file:// stripped [15:48] https://termbin.com/s6kx [15:48] its getting the efi partition [15:48] see above [15:48] the correct directory is a long name, ill get it to work [15:49] ok [15:50] https://termbin.com/eogzg [15:52] jpmiller25: which ubutnu release is this? [15:53] jpmiller25: the one you installed, that is, not the live system (though that could be of interest as well) [15:53] 20 [15:53] both [15:54] current, 20.04.1 [15:55] jpmiller25: well, let's see the full log then: sudo journalctl -b --root /media/$USER/LONG_ID_HERE 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:55] replace LONG_ID_HERE by ... you know what [15:56] https://termbin.com/l594 [15:57] you have BIOS 109.3192.768 03.24.2020 - check for an upgrade while i have a look at your logs [15:58] "03.24.2020" is the build date (usually same or some weeks / months before the release date given on vendor support websites) [15:59] you run zfs on this? [16:00] I did update the surface firmware from this site a few days ago while going through this process, I had some trouble getting the efi right [16:00] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=49498 [16:00] whats zfs? [16:00] an installation option marked as experimental [16:01] a specific file system [16:01] not that I know of... [16:01] ok, maybe those messages are normal on 20.40.1 [16:03] so maybe those last two lines of your log point to the problem, udisks2, a service/utility to enable normal users to mount file systems in their graphical file browser conveniently, to /media/$USER/... [16:04] you could try purging it. or to ensure you have all the latest updates installed first of all: sudo apt update & sudo apt full-upgrade [16:07] "systemd[1]: networkd-dispatcher.service: start operation timed out. Terminating." also indicates a problem. your system network configuration seems to be managed by systemd-networkd even though it's a desktop / end user device? [16:07] those usually use network-manager instead [16:09] hm ok [16:09] lack of ram could be an issue, too. you have 4 GB physical ram installed, of which some is taken by intel graphics. [16:09] i did get it to do update & upgrade yesterday, took just over 4 hours and it did complete [16:09] but still super slow [16:10] jpmiller25: any large cpu usage is 'top' ? [16:10] *in [16:10] ok could be ram, but it seems weird the live system is at least usable [16:10] i did get sysmon to run yesterday while doing upgrade, [16:11] the 4 cores showed pretty even usage they took turns, but never really went over 50% [16:11] usually 25-30% [16:11] jpmiller25: what's the output of 'free -h; ps aux | sort -k3 | tail [16:12] you wrote "booting from a USB hard drive" initially, did this refer to how you boot normally, or to how you booted the live system? [16:13] https://termbin.com/mg9t4 [16:13] tomreyn: both. Live system on usb thumb drive, installed OS on usb 3.0 hard drive [16:14] I have ssh-ed into a remote 16.04 server and did a do-release-upgrade. While it was downloading (400+) updates, I pressed CTRL-C. I assumed that as long as it didn't install anything, I could interrupt the process and restart it, but this didn't really work out how I expected. When I do a do-release-upgrade now, it says I should "install all available updates first". How should I proceed and either revert to a correct 16.04 which [16:14] can be upgraded or continue the upgrade from this situation? [16:15] when booting normally, you have sda = Verbatim Store n Go Drive, 4 GB; sdb = USB DISK 3.0, 115 GB; there's also an nvme mentioned, but not used? [16:15] jpmiller25: ^ [16:17] nvme is the internal ssd on the surface, I'm keeping the windows install on that one [16:29] jpmiller25: but you're saying the system booted faster off the usb-3.0 thumb drive before, right? those cheap flash drives are generally unreliable, i wouldn't expect anything to work well off them, especially if you do regular writes to them [16:29] better get an external ssd then [16:32]