[00:01] install and run, from a terminal, glmark2. run all tests, until it finishes by itself. this takes about 5-10 minutes. then post the full output on paste.ubuntu.com [00:02] don't put the window to the background and dont resize it [00:06] sqpp: example output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7CS8cQycTp/ [00:10] sqpp: according to this, you should see roughly half the performance (glmark2 Score) https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Radeon-RX-580-vs-GeForce-GTX-1050-(Mobile)/3736vs4088 [00:10] I'm going through the exercise of installing ubuntu using debootstrap. I've arrived at the point of installing grub and it's giving me the error "grub-install: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/nvme0n1p2. Check your device.map." within the chroot. Is there something I can do to help it find the grub drive. I'm trying to use uefi booting. [00:11] with uefi booting, you should have an efi system partition, and just need to run grub-install without parameters [00:11] this will only work if you already booted in uefi mode now [00:12] you can also try passing the disk containing the efi system partition to grub-install, so probably /dev/nvme0n1 in your case. but i don't think that's actually needed. [00:13] actually, it may be needed for the first time [00:15] Actually, now I'm not sure if my partitioning maybe didn't write correctly. [00:15] do you have networking, yet? [00:16] ya I'm using a systemrescuecd on a usb stick [00:17] gmm hopefully that'll be compatible [00:17] lsblk -o +LABEL | nc termbin.com 9999 [00:18] personally i'd be using the ubuntu desktop installer or mini iso to ensure a compatible kernel [00:18] https://termbin.com/vyym4 [00:19] debootstrap should work though [00:19] nvme0n1p1 lacks an ESP label [00:19] I basically had another system on the vg0-root [00:20] what'S the output of: echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS [00:20] that i'm replacing with this experiment [00:20] This system booted via: UEFI [00:20] good, so bootstrappping a uefi booting system should work out [00:21] which file systems do you have on nvme0n1p1 and nvme0n1p2 and the vg0-root LV? [00:23] p1 is fat32, p2 ext2, vg0-root ext4 [00:24] no need for ext2 there, you can do ext4, but looks fine. so you just need the esp label. [00:25] or rather you need the right partition type on /dev/nvme0n1p1 [00:27] p1 type is ef00, parted -l shows name EFI and flags boot, esp [00:28] hmm this should be fine. [00:30] and inside the chroot, you can run efivar -l and efibootmgr ? [00:31] ya both work [00:31] jonjitsu: and apt list --installed grub* 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 says what? [00:32] actually now I'm getting a different error of no sspace on device: /dev/nvme0n1p1 2.0M 2.0M 0 100% /boot/efi [00:32] I have a drive that I'm trying to get part of a RAID 1 array. In the disk utility, it says "SMART is not enabled". Is that a software choice, or is the drive not capable of the reporting? How can I check? [00:32] which is weird since it's 200M [00:33] jonjitsu: maybe the partition is 200 but the file system is so snall? [00:33] *small [00:34] jayjo_: smartctl -x /dev/disk/by-id/YOURDRIVEHERE [00:34] + sudo [00:34] My machine doesn't have smartctl installed, but a different drive is doing some sort of reporting [00:35] I can install it, but what is the GUI using to get info on the separate drive? [00:35] if it's a hardware raid, then linux may not get to see the individual members of the array, though [00:35] i don't know what the gui is using [00:35] It's not, it's just two inexpensive drives that I can see as /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc [00:36] those name assignments can change, which is why i usually prefer the by-id paths for such tasks [00:37] "/sbin/grub-install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition." Is this due to having an empty freshly formatted efi partition without boot/bootx64.efi? [00:38] I'm booting from an much smaller SSD, and I have a 1TB drive and 500GB drive in the drive bay. I'm hoping to set them up as a RAID 1 LVM so I can use them as backups for network things and the my home partition on the SSD [00:40] jonjitsu: no, i don't think so, there's another issue. sudo file --special-files /dev/nvme0n1p1 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [00:41] /dev/nvme0n1p1: DOS/MBR boot sector [00:41] jayjo_: personally, i'd recommend the same disk models, ideally the same batch, for raid. though this can still work out. [00:41] which mkfs should be used for the efi partition? [00:41] jonjitsu: vfat [00:42] that's what I originally tried when I got the 2MB issue... Lemme try again [00:42] here's hwat it sas for me: DOS/MBR boot sector, code offset 0x58+2, OEM-ID "mkfs.fat", sectors/cluster 8, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/track 63, heads 255, hidden sectors 2048, sectors 974848 (volumes > 32 MB), FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 951, reserved 0x1, serial number 0x52208ab, label: "ESP " [00:42] not only are they not the same make/model, but different sizes. I just assume I will lose the remaining space on the larger disk? Could it be partitioned and used as regular block storage? [00:43] jayjo_: yes, you can join partitions to a software raid [00:44] you can also use partitions as LVM PVs [00:45] Hello everyone. My computer had Ubuntu on the internal hard disk and it won't boot any more. I've booted into an Ubuntu 18.04 live DVD and I'm typing on HexChat within that environment. But I can't see my internal hard disk! [00:45] Richard_Cavell: where can't you see your internal hard disk? Did anything of note happen before it stopped booting? [00:47] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7VCbgCZdz7/ [00:47] matsaman, I can't see my internal hard disk there [00:48] Richard_Cavell: is this a laptop or desktop? [00:48] tomreyn, a desktop. [00:48] also, you didn't answer one of matsaman's questions [00:48] tomreyn, as to what happened... all I know is one day I booted my machine, and it didn't boot [00:49] tomreyn: there we go grub-install worked, used this based off your output: mkfs.fat -F 32 -n "ESP" /dev/nvme0n1p1 [00:49] Richard_Cavell: ok. is this a spinning rust hdd or a flash based (fast) SSD? [00:49] Richard_Cavell: disconnect all the cables on the storage drive and reconnect them [00:50] Richard_Cavell: if that doesn't work try different connectors [00:50] tomreyn, it's a mechanical internal 1 terabyte hard disk [00:50] I think my first partitioning with mkfs.vfat dev made it fat16, then the second with mkfs.exfat dev made is something else... [00:50] Richard_Cavell: if that doesn't work try different cables [00:50] matsaman, the disk is entirely internal, I never connected anything [00:50] Richard_Cavell: sure but there are still connectors in there [00:50] It's an iMac, so it's an all in one machine [00:50] oh, so it's a PITA to open [00:50] well that might still be something you'll have to do, if you don't want to pay someone to [00:50] they're really obnoxious to open these days, all sorts of glue [00:50] you should check whether the bios / firmware still sees the drive [00:51] tomreyn, I don't know how to do that [00:51] it's mac specific, i don't either [00:51] you should boot the built-in macOS recovery system and see if it sees the drive [00:51] tomreyn, I know that it has a 32-bit EFI. And it's not Linux-friendly [00:51] might be soldered/glued [00:51] CMD+r during bootup, IIRC [00:51] but i think it is possible, you press some hiotkey before boot [00:52] jonjitsu: exfat is something completely different indeed ;) [00:52] Can I at least confirm... if sudo fdisk -l doesn't give me sdxx, does that mean the internal hard disk isn't being seen? [00:52] jonjitsu: glad it worked out this time [00:52] Richard_Cavell: if it doesn't give you a device of the right size, most likely something is up, yes [00:53] tomreyn, yep, thanks [00:53] :) [00:53] Richard_Cavell: or put another way: it is ordinary for fdisk -l to show the first internal hard disk as /dev/sda [00:54] you think I will need something specific in the initramfs to decrypt my password protected luks partition on boot? [00:54] Richard_Cavell: you could also post your logs, so we can look at whether the disk failed to detect, or was seen by linux at all [00:55] tomreyn: https://bpa.st/YEAA seems to indicate the drive has SMART capabilities, but in disk utility I still get that error "SMART is not enabled" [00:55] jonjitsu: which partition is this? [00:55] tomreyn, which file do you need? [00:55] jonjitsu: oh i see now [00:56] Richard_Cavell: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [00:56] https://termbin.com/95pm [00:56] jonjitsu: be sure to create /etc/crypttab, and double-check it. and i'd start with the default settings for mkinitramfs [00:57] i.e. MODULES=most, i think [00:57] basically, it's p1 - efi p2 - boot(ext2) p3 - encrypted blob with lvm and all the "real" partitions [00:57] jayjo_: i'm afraid i can't help debug disk utility [00:59] jonjitsu: right, i just missed the "crypt" on https://termbin.com/vyym4 earlier [01:00] jayjo_: but you could look for an existing bug report, or, if there's none, file one. [01:01] jayjo_: ...by running: ubuntu-bug gnome-disks [01:01] actually gnome-disk-utility === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:03] jonjitsu: alternative approach https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019 [01:05] i just got anice reminder that i should be in bed. good luck y'all. [01:06] https://termbin.com/95pm Is there anyone who can look through this log and tell me if Ubuntu can see my internal hard disk? [01:07] I've booted into Ubuntu live DVD and Ubuntu seems to not be able to see my internal hard disk [01:07] tomreyn, have a good night [01:07] and thanks again :) [01:10] Richard_Cavell, seems so, is it seen in the bios of that apple? [01:10] oerheks, I don't know how to tell. It doesn't produce a log like most computers do === leden_ is now known as leden [02:00] what is the best way to limit diskspace on ubuntu? [02:02] quota ? [02:06] guys help [02:07] mount failed: Operation not permitted. -- when I try and mount a dd image via (sudo mount -t ext4 -o loop,ro,noexec,noload suspicious.dd.sda1 /mnt/test/) [02:09] ComputerTech: for individual users? [02:09] fyi: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device: No such device [02:10] matsaman for all new users [02:10] mozzarella: ask a question? [02:10] if I want to use my remaining partition for non-RAID stuff, when I'm using mdadm and see this: "mdadm: largest drive (/dev/sdb) exceeds size (488254464K) by more than 1%" do I have to partition before this, or go ahead and create the array? [02:11] I thought I had to work with raw disks with mdadm, so not sure about using partitions instead [02:11] lotuspsychje: I want video files to be opened with mpv by default, I've already set mpv to be the default video app in my settings, but it's not working for all files [02:11] mozzarella: each filetype needs to be set by default [02:12] mozzarella: if you set by default for mkv it wont open all avi's, you need to do it for avi too then [02:12] lotuspsychje but it won't let me change it [02:13] mozzarella: right click/properties on your video file and change to mpv [02:15] lotuspsychje: https://imgur.com/a/9emQRT7 [02:15] mozzarella: click mpv, set as default? [02:16] lotuspsychje: it's not changing it, it jumps back to Videos [02:17] ComputerTech: you should be able to use quotas, sure [02:18] it seems a little confusing to me :/ [02:18] the blocks part [02:18] what i'm trying to do is [02:18] when i add a user [02:18] it will set a limit of diskspace of 100mb [02:18] for every user i add === RandolfR is now known as Randolf [02:39] I'm noticing now after I've already started creating the array this line: "If the component devices you are using are not partitions with the boot flag enabled, you will likely see the following warning..." - Does that mean I could have first created partitions in order to create the RAID array? (and that way I could reserve the remaining space on the larger disk?) [03:00] I found a good question for it: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/320103/whats-the-difference-between-creating-mdadm-array-using-partitions-or-the-whole === EuphOria is now known as GoyleOfGar === OERIAS is now known as CristobalColon === leden_ is now known as leden [04:26] Hello All ! Had issues getting back and now I can pick up where I left oof. [04:34] fe80::1%lo0 localhost What does this line in /etc/hosts mean? [04:34] What is % symbol? [04:34] Oct 03 22:32:22 desktop dnsmasq[810]: bad address at /etc/hosts line 8 this is in dnsmasq log [04:34] That is line 8 [04:36] it is the local link address I believe [04:37] but it is not valid for /etc/hosts [04:37] ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback [04:37] ff02::1 ip6-allnodes [04:37] ff02::2 ip6-allrouters [04:37] should look like this ^ [04:43] On imgur.com to share all my images so you all can see it. Would the URL look like username.imgur.com/all to see all my images about an issue I am having? I think it has something to do with BusyBox (initramfs) [04:48] lol whut [04:48] A couple of months I was here asking questions and was told to go to imgur.com and upload images of my issue [04:49] So others can see them [04:49] I see [04:49] I don't have any dns resolution left anymore [04:50] and wanted to know if the url I am looking at is in my account or you be able to see [04:51] I am trying to use dbab/dnsmasque dns adblocking, and I installed dbab and dnsmasq, set systemd-resolv.conf to not bind to port 53, I start the dnsmasq and dbab services, and system-d resolv is on also, and I have resolvconf package installed [04:51] I still don't have any dns resolution. I wonder what's up [05:16] I think I got it [05:22] Anyone remembers me please PM me. Still have not figuge out how to get crashed computer Ubuntu 16.04 is the highest my machine goes. When do I live boot I am able to see my hard-drive with all the data and OS prior to crashing. The File Manager Image on the Left Panel Right below Network there is 499 GB Volume. Would like to know how to get it back running again. And think this is the URL to see what I am speaking.The image abouve and the one on [05:22] the left show where it stops booting up on its own. On a side not getting over a health issue other wise it would not have taking me about 2 months or so. Please PM me you able to assist. I am relearning to IRC and do not know how I know if someone directed a message to me. I think there is a way just forgot. Hope someone here can help me. And please teach me to be more terse here instead of writing a book. Thanks and look forward to your [05:22] answer. One last note some reason this computer new backed up and do not know why. After I get all information on different device from here plan to reformat computer and rebuild it. [05:27] The URL for Images https://chiefmonk.imgur.com/all [07:04] chief-monk_: no PM's, support can be given in this channel. === CristobalColon is now known as OERIAS [07:42] What is this jb2/sda2-6 which access io frequently causing a clicking noise [07:42] *jbd2/sda6-8 [07:46] leibniz[m]: hd's that make ticking noises is bad news, might wanna do a SMART test [07:46] lotuspsychje: SMART didn't found a problem. [07:47] oh he got enough answers from other channels too [07:47] clicking noise = end of life, replace [07:47] i see its a crosspostHD :p [07:47] I used iotop, HDD clicks seems to happen when jbd2/sda6-8, firefox and a kworker:xxx get executred [07:47] and the execute a lot [07:48] I'm also using TLP. I mean shouldn't they write to RAM first and then write in batch to HDD after a few minues? [07:50] doesn't change that the disk is bad. [07:50] oerheks: Then why it is silent on winodws 10? [07:52] likely windows does not use those corrupted sectors? [07:52] you might want to reask in ##hardware too [07:53] oerheks: Shouldn't SMART detect if something is wrong with HDD? I tested it both on windows (Thinkpad Vantage) and linux, it says its fine [07:54] a smart test could show errors, but can take a while [07:55] obviously the disk is damaged. [07:58] Does anyone know whether the IRC Client Relay ever had a fork or if its still supported? [07:59] leibniz[m], SMART is a diagnotic tool that is intended to help detect issues before they occur, best results are regularly watching & noticing sudden changes in the SMART reports; rather than a single report (which is a calculated-guess only), at least from my experience [08:09] fontis: the question isn't really related to Ubuntu support [08:10] Maik: you are right. Was just curious and thought I'd ask here :) [08:11] Ubuntu support only in this channel, try in #ubuntu-offtopic ;) [08:15] How do I get my file explorer to sort strictly on ascii/unicode rather than ignoring underscores? [08:16] _b a c, rather than a _b c [08:17] Hi, I reported a bug but it automatically attached a lot of confidential information, like my phone serial number and lots of other, there's option to mark it as private, but *no one* will be able to see the bug. I won't be reporting more bugs and delete the reported one if it has to be this way [08:18] tichun: what has ubuntu bug reporting to do with your phone in the first place [08:19] Dmesg has [08:19] you run ubuntu on your phone? [08:20] or was it attached to your machine [08:20] No, it just was connected. That's not the topic. The problem is ubuntu bug reporting adds a lot of information to the report that i am not even able to edit [08:20] ah, i see [08:20] It has attached list of installed snaps etc. [08:21] What is Flutter? [08:21] Sorry, wrong chan. [08:22] tichun, then don't use ubuntu-bug tool, but manually https://askubuntu.com/questions/473839/how-can-i-delete-private-information-in-a-bug-report [08:58] Okay so now I am hiccuping against a artificial limit in the kernel to the amount of usb-devices [08:59] Not enough host controller resources for new device state. [08:59] can't set config #1, error -12 [09:02] how many usb devices do you have connected then? [09:09] host controller resources may well point to a hardware limitation [09:30] I tried to get spelunky 2 to run in steam using proton 5.18. After many fails it doesn't run and I'm left with a load of wine- and proton-related files on the computer. I want to delete all that stuff. Since it was a tarball, I tried "make clean". But now "locate proton" and "locate wine" still spit out plenty of files. Can I just delete those and the removal is complete? [09:32] Hey, so it seems my network and sound is gone on my Ubuntu 20.04.1 system, only Dummy Output displayed at the control panel. Seems the sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel returns not found fatal error [09:32] that's not how you do software management on ubuntu. you use apt and maybe snap, and maybe yet other software package management systems [09:32] agopo: ^ === eruditass_ is now known as eruditass [09:32] but steam may differ from that, there's #ubuntu-steam, i think [09:32] tomreyn, yes and I try to do that and remove packages the regular way. with proton 5.18 that wasn't possible though, it's only available as tarball === megoix0 is now known as megoix === SrPx_ is now known as SrPx === Ps1-Jack is now known as Psi-Jack === seednode8 is now known as seednode === arch1mede9 is now known as arch1mede [09:33] basically I made a mess and now I want to clean it up [09:34] it seems the network card is completely unrecognized too for some reason, while the wireless is working [09:35] Okay it seems to be something with the Thunderbolt 3 as well... [09:36] agopo: that's outside the scope of what's supported here. the general approach you should take on ubuntu is to install only packaged software on a system level (so outside of /home and maybe outside of /usr/local ), and non-packaged software in /home only. [09:37] agopo: you can run dpkg -S against the full path to a given file to check whether it is part of an installed debian package (.deb) [09:37] tomreyn, I get that. But then I can't be the only one who tried to build from tarball, install a bunch of dependent libs, fail with the tarball and then want to delete the libs [09:38] agopo: some files will be generated during installation of a debian package, though,a nd those cannot be identified this way. [09:38] tomreyn, I'll try the dpkg [09:38] Yeah, I probably go back to Windows :( [09:39] agopo: most likely you're not. but most of these people would know where they placed those tarballs, and where they extracted them to, ideally. [09:39] if you're wondering which packages you installed recently, you can check /var/log/apt/history.log [09:40] what you could do is extract and/or build the tar with a --prefix /tmp/something and then make a list of all the files in that folder and delete those [09:40] tomreyn, I know the folder I placed it to and deleted it. That wasnt everything though as locate showed [09:41] agopo: locate can output outdated information, it uses a database backend which is not refreshed immeditately [09:41] tomreyn, I did updatedb [09:41] use the updatedb command to refresh it, or use gnu find to search [09:41] you can share your output on a pastebin, maybe we can help. [09:42] good idea [09:48] tomreyn, xtao https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dWRkcYC4py/ [09:49] neither the packages wine nor proton* are installed. still I get this mess [09:50] is wine* installed, though? [09:50] no [09:51] the stuff in /home/agopo/.steam you can probably delete. it may break steam, but i guess you can reinstall that if needed. [09:52] the stuff in /home/agopo/.PlayOnLinux/ would only be used by playonlinux, if you still have that [09:52] I dont, so that gets deleted, too [09:54] if you don't have wine / playonlinux, you should be able to delete /home/agopo/.local/share/mime/application/x-wine-* and /home/agopo/.local/share/applications/wine-extension-* and /home/agopo/.local/share/icons/*/*/apps/application-x-wine-* safely [09:56] /usr/bin/wine64-stable sounds like you still have some wine installed [09:57] i don't knoiw what /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/wine belongs to [09:58] which ubuntu release is this actually? [09:58] 20.04 [09:59] are any of these packages still installed? fonts-wine libwine libwine:i386 [10:01] a path of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/wine does not seem to exist in focal [10:02] could be a third party package, though [10:03] files in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/wine are part of libwine [10:04] good call. fonts-wine, libwine, libwine:i386, wine32, wine64 were installed, are now purged. [10:04] generally, you should not make such a mess in the first place. [10:04] how come removing wine* didnt recognize wine32 and wine64? [10:05] tomreyn, haha yeah I know XD [10:05] maybe you needed to do wine\* so the shell didn't complete it [10:05] building from source still drives me nuts [10:06] or maybe you needed regular expressions rather than shell globbing, depends on the commands you used and how you used them [10:06] Does Ubuntu still send search strings to Canonical? === enoq_ is now known as enoq === ltrager_ is now known as ltrager === waxfire1 is now known as waxfire === To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne is now known as ToAruShiroiNeko [10:20] i have a dd to mount -- but I keep getting mount failed: Operation not permitted. [10:24] bonhoeffer: through commandline? [10:24] yes [10:24] sudo [10:24] try adding that to the command [10:25] yeah -- sudo mount -t ext3 -o loop,noexec,noload suspicious.dd.sda1 /mnt/ [10:26] was trying that === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [10:56] Maik : Thanks I did not know that with IRC. But can you assist me with my issue Maik? [10:57] if i could i would have answered that by now :) [10:57] i need to install a font that supports Ú (big ú) and other normal letters [10:57] what packet do i need [10:58] font for terminal [10:58] hi, I've Ryzen 7 4700U based laptop, brightness settings and suspend didn't work on ubuntu 20.04 and 5.4 kernel so I've updated to 5.8.13 and brightness settings work but suspend is still not working on 5.8.13 and 5.9 RC7. cat /sys/power/mem_sleep returns: [s2idle] and dmesg | grep -i acpi | grep supports returns: [ 0.364412] ACPI: (supports S0 [10:58] S4 S5) . How to fix that? [10:59] it is strange that the font didn't come by default [10:59] this bug report for postfixadmin 3.0.2-2 bionic https://paste.ovh/view/raw/407e80c3 [11:00] Hi, I just upgraded my desktop PC from 18.04 to 20.04. The only GUI that now works is unity. The Ubuntu and Ubuntu on Wayland load, but then no icons are shown on the desktop and the launcher & the top bar buttons are non-responsive. I have to CTL+ALT+Fx and login to a terminal and then reboot. Any suggestions? [11:01] theopensourcerer: ubuntu gui? do you mean gnome? [11:01] hejkki: Probably. When you are at the login screen, the options are called "Ubuntu", "Ubuntu on Wayland" and "Unity". [11:11] theopensourcerer: unity shouldn't be on there if you installed 18.04 before and upgraded to 20.04. Unless you added the Unity desktop environment to your install. [11:11] or did you upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 and then 20.04? [11:11] i would recommend to delete this user profile [11:12] and restart gui [11:12] It's a fairly old computer and has been upgraded a few times. When I am at the login screen, I can choose three options as described and the only one that actually aloows me to do anything is unity. [11:12] s\allows [11:13] theopensourcerer: what is fairly old and what are the system specs? [11:14] Intel® Core™ i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz × 4 [11:14] Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 530 (SKL GT2) [11:14] 15.5 GiB RAM [11:15] I don;t recall how old it is - probably 5 years or so I guess. [11:15] that not old to me :) [11:15] that/that's [11:16] :-) [11:16] i had an 8 years old laptop before i changed to new one [11:17] I upgraded my laptop a moth or so ago and that was fine. [11:17] moth/month [11:44] I created a new account on my PC and can login using the default gnome desktop. So presumably this means I have something in my gnome config which is a bit borked that stops me from using gnome with my main account... Where is this stored? Can I just remove it and it will be re-generated? [11:47] theopensourcerer: generally $HOME/.config/ $HOME/.local and possibly $HOME/.cache/ -- you can try *moving* those to backup names to isolate which, if any, contains something that is affecting log-in [11:49] hi, is it possible to use thunar insteed of files on Ubuntu 20? [11:51] i guess so, install thunar and set it as default. [11:53] Maik, thanks [11:54] yw [11:54] It i not possible to add a link to a folder on Ubuntu desktop ? I tried, but the link appear with a red cross... [11:55] TJ-: Thanks. There is a ton of non-gnome related config information in those directories... Is there anything more specific? [11:56] Gwalenn: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1235661/how-to-create-desktop-shortcuts-for-folders-in-ubuntu-20-04 [11:57] theopensourcerer: we generally do that as a test to find out if the cause is in one of them, then either create a replacement directory and copy sub-dirs in a few at a time and keep re-testing the login until it breaks, OR, make a copy of the entire directory and then delete sub-dirs from that a few at a time, until it works :) [11:57] theopensourcerer: generally a bisection approach is fastest for that [11:57] TJ-: lol - oh great ;-) [11:58] theopensourcerer: so e.g. if you have $HOME/.config/ with 5 sub-dirs, after backing it up, delete 2 and test. if it works, put the two back and delete one, and test, and so on. [11:59] theopensourcerer: the other option is to search log files for clues [11:59] TJ-: in .config I have approximately 70 directories ;-) [11:59] Maik, tanks, not intuitive Gnome, but works [12:00] theopensourcerer: and one last thing - ensure that all files in $HOME are owned by that account and not accidentally by root (do to using 'sudo') -- "sudo find /home/$USER -not -user $USER -ls" [12:01] theopensourcerer: the above command will list files/dirs NOT owned by $USER (replace $USER with the account name with the problem) [12:01] Gwalenn: you could always switch to any other official buntu flavor if you think Gnome isn't for you. [12:03] Maik, I do not want to make a new install, but I do not feel Gnome. Looks eye candy but not to complicated for me. [12:03] TJ-: No need to replace $USER, that's my environment var. I found a few files owned by root; a couple in .cache/dconf, and a load in .local/share/mime [12:04] Gwalenn: you do not need to re-install to use an alternate flavour; E.g. to install and use Xubuntu simply "sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop" then at the greeter log-in, use the session selector (gear icon) to choose Xubuntu [12:05] theopensourcerer: you can correct those with "sudo find /home/$USER -not -user $USER -exec chown $USER:$USER \; " [12:05] Sure, or sudo chown -R ... [12:06] theopensourcerer: saves time with find - chown does a brute-force of everything [12:06] theopensourcerer: and of course saves writes/erases of the storage medium [12:06] Gwalenn: besides what TJ- suggested, a new install is done within 15 to 20 minutes depending on your hardware. Or is your set up that complicated? :) [12:07] TJ-, I have done like this in the past to switch to kde, and I remember I got issues after switching. [12:09] Gwalenn: KDE is a bit of a large brute compared to something like XFCE or LXQT though [12:09] Maik, 20 mn for installing the os, and a day for completing installation and settings... I loose two hours this morning because my network printer do not print when i connected to my vpn. Sub network whitelist...et... [12:09] Gwalenn: try the various flavors from a live usb stick and see what fits you most, then install that one once you made up your mind. The base in all flavors is ubuntu after all. [12:09] a day? [12:10] Maik, yes at least [12:10] For systems with lots of personal customisations a day is often what it needs - especially when you cannot (or do not know how) copy previous config files in [12:11] i'm done within an hour max with updating, configuring and installing a couple of things. Everyone his/her needs i guess. :) [12:12] Gwalenn: you can always test a different flavour using an alternate login account to see if you like it - that will not affect your usual user account until you log-in to that account with the new flavour's session [12:13] Maik, this depend on a lot of things. As said, I loose a couple of hours because with the vpn in use, the printer network won't print. [12:13] not so easy [12:13] :) [12:13] Maik: some of us have very complex configs across many applications, some of which we rarely tweak, and it takes a lot of time to track down and clone (or worse, figure out what to do when config options and/or files have been removed/changed) [12:14] or fixing copy/paste from clipboard with vim for example [12:17] anyway, wait and see. If I can I stay with gnome... If not... Thanks for your help ;-) [12:19] General tip for vim + clipboard pastes. Do "set paste" beforehand and indents won't go mad [12:21] yep. i have that bound to F12 [12:28] Hi all [12:41] TJ- [12:43] TJ- Looks like it was either .config/Code (VSCode config I assume) or gedit. Thanks for the assistance. [12:43] theopensourcerer: glad you found the culprit; often-times we don't [12:44] Was a lot quicker that I imaged it was going to be as well. [13:46] After having googled this for an hour, I revert to asking for help here. Running a local mail setup with Postfix and Courier imap (accessing mail from mutt via imaps served locally). The setup sees $HOME/Maildir which is actually a symlink to $HOME/Main/Maildir. I want to kill the symlink and have the system recognize $HOME/Main/Maildir as the mail directory. How do I do this without breaking mail? [13:47] isene: Do it and move the Maildir back to $HOME [13:51] How do I disable a screensaver if a specific application was running ? [13:57] isene: you'd have to change config in both Postfix and Courier. Both use different options. For postfix you'd need to look at the mailbox_* and/or home_mailbox options [13:59] wyoung: I want to remove Maildir (as a directory or symlink) from my Home dir [14:00] TJ-: Where do I set this in postfix and in courier? What config files or what programs to run to set this? [14:01] Anyone can help me with lost of audio and network over wired cable? [14:01] isene: if you're operating postfix these are things you should know, or know where to look in the config and related docs. It is a great responsibility running a public mail server! [14:02] Suddenly since last reboot I just experienced no sound and lost of wired network [14:02] TJ-: This is not a public mail server. This is on my laptop. [14:03] isene: phew! well, time to read the docs if you're wanting a non-standard mailbox layout [14:03] isene: postfix local mail delivery is based on local (unix) accounts and delivery to the home directory of the recipient [14:04] Apperently snd-intel-hda not even loaded into kernel. [14:04] And modprobe can't find the so file [14:05] TJ-: Well, that was indeed why I asked here - after having prowled through google and docs for an hour. So, if there are anyone in here that could point me to the exact files/programs to set my Maildir folder to $HOME/Main/Maildir, then that would be just swell. [14:05] sqpp: show us "uname -r; modinfo snd-hda-intel" [14:05] Sec [14:05] isene: you need postfix specific support; you might be lucky and find someone in #ubuntu-server but it is the weekend so most sys admins are not around [14:06] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MZWSKjzxQj/ [14:06] isene: postfix only defines the *sub-directory* to deliver to (e.g. "home_mailbox = Maildir/") it uses the recipients home directory as the parent [14:07] sqpp6: looks like the kernel packages weren't correctly installed or the system may have run out of space. Check space first: "df -h " [14:08] def not run out of space but here you go [14:08] https://imgur.com/a/RJ8049G [14:09] sqpp6: looks like a problem since it is apparently missing the package "linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-48-generic" - try a "sudo apt -f install" to fix any existing errors. If that is clean, and it doesn't install that package, do "sudo apt install linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-48-generic" and then figure out WHY that wasn't installed [14:10] it is installe as well [14:10] d [14:10] linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-48-generic is already the newest version (5.4.0-48.52). [14:10] sqpp6: then there is a greater problem since the module is in that package [14:11] hi,getting notifications about minor kernel upgrades from time to time.do i need to install them all? [14:11] sqpp6: maybe depmod failed; try "sudo depmod -a " then re-check for the module with "modinfo snd-hda-intel" [14:12] return blank [14:12] "udo depmod -a" [14:12] sorry, sudo [14:12] sqpp6: depmod will not report anything if successful [14:12] sqpp6: try the modinfo now [14:12] modinfo: ERROR: Module snd-hda-intel not found. [14:13] sqpp6: something seems broken [14:14] definitely [14:14] sqpp6: try "sudo apt install --reinstall linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-48-generic" [14:14] sqpp6: the package:file should be linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-48-generic: /lib/modules/5.4.0-48-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko [14:14] gotta do a restart then [14:15] Ok the file is here now [14:15] modinfo also returns the thing now [14:16] sqpp6: there must have been a failure during the kernel upgrade. for the file to be missing suggests the system powered off unexpectedly [14:17] well [14:17] I am using like [14:17] a SecureBoot [14:17] so it could be [14:17] SecureBoot won't affect this [14:17] Hope to fix a couple of things tho [14:18] Some apps don't even seems to use 3D acceleration [14:18] like Chrome for example [14:18] package manager reports package installed but files misssing - either someone deleted the files manually or they never got installed. Not many scenarios that can cause that if the storage medium has free space [14:19] Well [14:19] I tried some magic with the audio yesterday [14:19] because it was kind of laggy [14:19] but I didn' expect the whole audio and network gone [14:19] * TJ- suspects this 'magic' was destructive! [14:19]