[00:15] <callmepk> good morning
[01:52] <pieq> Morning all!
[01:59] <Maik> good morning
[03:07] <callmepk> morning pieq Maik 
[03:48] <duflu> Morning pieq, Maik, callmepk 
[03:55] <callmepk> morning (almost noon though) duflu
[04:53] <jibel> Good morning
[05:18] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[05:23] <callmepk> morning jibel 
[06:05] <jibel> hi duflu and callmepk 
[06:53] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk pieq Maik duflu jibel and desktoppers
[06:53] <callmepk> morning marcustomlinson 
[06:53] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:06] <didrocks> good morning
[07:07] <jibel> Salut didrocks 
[07:07] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[07:07] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[07:08] <marcustomlinson> hey didrocks
[07:09] <didrocks> hey duflu, marcustomlinson 
[07:11] <jibel> Salut marcustomlinson 
[07:38] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:41] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[07:41] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you? how was your weekend?
[07:42] <duflu> seb128, it was nice. Got a few things done and saw family. You?
[07:45] <marcustomlinson> hey seb128
[07:50] <seb128> duflu, it was nice enough, though it has been raining most of it. We did assemble some new furnitures and did watch some tennis on TV, nothing fancy, mostly relaxing
[07:50] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, how are you? had a nice weekend?
[07:51] <marcustomlinson> seb128: productive yeah, lots of repairing of things around the house, so not so relaxing :p
[07:52] <GunnarHj> seb128: As regards translations and gnome-software/snap, I suppose we should add "X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes" to gnome-software anyway. Would that possibly help wrt the snap?
[07:53] <seb128> hey GunnarHj, I don't see how it would help with the snap?
[07:53] <didrocks> hey seb128, GunnarHj 
[07:54] <seb128> the snap doesn't use the same prefix and doesn't have read access to the langpack directory
[07:54] <GunnarHj> Morning didrocks!
[07:54] <seb128> lut didrocks, en forme ?
[07:54] <GunnarHj> seb128: I thought that the snaps might include the langpacks...
[07:55] <GunnarHj> Probably not then.
[08:02] <Laney> yo
[08:03] <didrocks> seb128: un peu mal à la tête, mais ça va
[08:13] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney, good long weekend?
[08:14] <seb128> shrug, I didn't notice the eth cable unplugged from the wifi router when I moved it
[08:14] <seb128> GunnarHj, the snap has some UI changes and extra strings so it couldn't use the translations from gnome-software directly, you can only have on domain
[08:14] <seb128> one
[08:15] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you? had a nice weekend?
[08:15] <seb128> didrocks, outch, manque de sommeil ? trop picolé ? ;-)
[08:15] <seb128> going to be a busy week, GNOME .1 and product sprint
[08:17] <GunnarHj> seb128: It sounds that merging gnome-software translations into the snap manually could help then. But let's listen to Ken's input first.
[08:19] <seb128> GunnarHj, if you know how to do that automatically or easily ...
[08:20] <GunnarHj> seb128: Unfortunately I don't.
[08:20] <seb128> GunnarHj, it sort of was discussed on https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store-desktop/+bug/1878672
[08:20] <seb128> see my comment there
[08:21] <seb128> GunnarHj, the snap does a msgmerge but that leads to fuzzy strings in some cases
[08:21] <didrocks> seb128: même pas, justement, aucune idée, et c’est lancinant (ça vient et ça part, bizarre…)
[08:22] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:22] <seb128> didrocks, :-(
[08:24] <GunnarHj> seb128: This is not ideal. How many translators know that they need to go to https://translations.launchpad.net/snap-store-desktop to translate Ubuntu Software?
[08:27] <seb128> GunnarHj, I had emailed the translators list about, unsure what else we could do?
[08:30] <GunnarHj> seb128: That's the channel we have. I might post a reminder. But there should really be a smooth way to import gnome-software translations. Might play around later.
[08:32] <seb128> GunnarHj, I see the way is to rebase the fork on the current gnome-software git
[08:32] <seb128> that would include refreshing the .po to their current version
[08:33] <GunnarHj> seb128: That was over my head. :-/
[08:36] <seb128> GunnarHj, well, snap-store is maintained as a forked version of gnome-software, so rebase on the current source of gnome-software should mean bring to the po/ to its current upstream content
[08:36] <seb128> the .po in the source dir are not modified
[08:37] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ah, now I see. Sounds reasonable. Would you mind if I make an attempt to update gnome-software first?
[08:37] <seb128> GunnarHj, please do
[08:38] <GunnarHj> ok
[08:44] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson seb128 didrocks 
[08:45] <seb128> I wonder if I do something wrong or if that's configuratble
[08:45] <Laney> break was very nice thanks, who says you can't have a good holiday with rain/wind all the time :p
[08:45] <seb128> do other also get annoyed that gbp buildpackage doesn't let the tree in a clean state?
[08:45] <seb128> having to git clean -fdx or similar after a test build is annoying
[08:46] <seb128> (It's better now that I googled how to properly use clean, before I ended up doing a clean -f and a manual rm of some subdirs :p)
[08:50] <GunnarHj> seb128: One question, so I don't mess up things again: Should I start with debian only, or is there some special import procedure when both debian/master and ubuntu/master exist?
[08:50] <seb128> GunnarHj, start from debian/master, do the gbp import there, then yes you git checkout ubuntu/master and git merge debian/3.38.0-1 (or whatever Debian version you just tagged)
[08:51] <seb128> do forget to gbp pull before doing the import :p
[08:51] <GunnarHj> seb128: Got it. Nope, won't forget gbp pull. ;)
[08:52] <seb128> gbp should really autopull for us
[08:52] <seb128> or at least ask a 'are you sure you want to import on an outdated checkout'
[08:52] <seb128> if you want to try maybe to write a patch :)
[08:53] <GunnarHj> Good idea. (The patch will have to wait.)
[09:38] <Laney> seb128: you can pass --git-export-dir=../build-area/ (or set that in config) and then it gets exported to there before building, that might be more like what you want maybe
[09:39] <seb128> Laney, is that how you do it yourself?
[09:39] <seb128> or do you just manually git clean after the testbuild?
[09:39] <seb128> (or build another way, maybe that's what I'm doing wrong?)
[09:39] <Laney> I have it set, yeah
[09:40] <seb128> I will do that then, copying the masters can't be wrong :)
[09:40] <seb128> thx!
[09:40] <Laney> BUT
[09:40]  * seb128 pauses
[09:40] <Laney> I always build in sbuild by doing gbp buildpackage -S and then sbuilding the .dsc
[09:40] <Laney> so I probably wouldn't have the same problem anyway
[09:41] <seb128> right, I'm lazy and don't do that usually, especially not for minor updates
[09:41] <Laney> ya
[09:41] <seb128> I just gbp buildpackage on my normal system
[09:41] <Laney> it's fine, just saying that I might not have noticed if this isn't enough for you
[09:41] <Laney> I think it is though
[09:41] <seb128> right
[09:41] <seb128> well, I wil try and see how it goes :)
[09:42] <Laney> you just clean up the build area every so on
[09:42] <Laney> often*
[09:43] <seb128> that's fien, will reming me from the bzr times :)
[10:11] <GunnarHj> seb128: Did the Debian part. Good if you check and upload before I continue. Especially check out the latest commit (I don't really know what I'm doing, but it made dh_missing happy.)
[10:11] <GunnarHj> https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-software/
[10:14] <seb128> GunnarHj, removing the .a there makes sense yes
[10:15] <seb128> GunnarHj, the update seems fine to me
[10:16] <GunnarHj> Will you upload if I finalize d/changelog?
[10:16] <GunnarHj> seb128 ^
[10:24] <seb128> GunnarHj, yes
[10:27] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, done.
[11:34] <seb128> GunnarHj, gnome-software, you are going to update for Ubuntu? I didn't review the changes but that might need a ffe?
[11:34] <seb128> (would be nice to have the updated serie though)
[11:34] <seb128> I've uploaded to Debian
[11:35] <GunnarHj> Great, thanks!
[11:37] <GunnarHj> seb128: I'm just preparing an Ubuntu upload. What do you mean by updated serie?
[11:38] <seb128> GunnarHj, 3.38 (vs 3.36 we currently have)
[11:39] <Laney> GunnarHj: any problem with uploading a new default wallpaper to groovy?
[11:39] <seb128> Laney, could you do the new tepl sponsoring for Olivier in Debian?  
[11:39] <Laney> UIF wise
[11:39] <Laney> later, I'm working on that now and raspi image in parallel
[11:39] <seb128> Laney, the abi changes so packages got renamed, which means binNEW which means a binary build and I'm out of clean Debian env to do the build atm
[11:39] <GunnarHj> seb128: Right, ok. I'll file a FFe request then. (There are quite some changes...)
[11:40] <seb128> between other updates and the sprint I'm probably not going to resolve that before a bit
[11:40] <seb128> GunnarHj, thanks
[11:40] <GunnarHj> Laney: No problem.
[11:40] <seb128> Laney, no hurry, just if you can squeeze that in at some point
[12:58] <seb128> GunnarHj, the ubuntu-software dummy package can go now
[12:58] <seb128> GunnarHj, also the depends in universe is fine now that the source moved to universe
[13:00] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, let me drop the dummy then. But please note that I enabled langpacks...
[13:03] <seb128> GunnarHj, I saw, that's fine, it can probably go directly to Debian though?
[13:03] <seb128> it's just a control tag
[13:04] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yeah, the thing is that I came to think about it only after I had finalized debian...
[13:05] <seb128> GunnarHj, stage it in the vcs for next upload?
[13:06] <GunnarHj> seb128: Maybe I misunderstood "the depends in universe is fine now".
[13:06] <seb128> GunnarHj, also unsure why the polkit build-depends is required in Ubuntu but not Debian?
[13:06] <seb128> GunnarHj,     - Disable malcontent for now as it's not in main yet
[13:06] <seb128> we can revert that change, gnome-software has been demoted to universe
[13:07] <GunnarHj> seb128: Because of dh_translations. But indeed, I can stage those changes in Debain's VCS.
[13:08] <GunnarHj> seb128: I see. Then I'll need to figure out the nature of the change.
[13:08] <seb128> GunnarHj, I basically sync we could sync gnome-software
[13:08] <seb128> think we could sync rather :)
[13:09] <GunnarHj> seb128: So it seems. Maybe I should prepare another Debian upload?
[13:10] <seb128> GunnarHj, that would be fine, or we could so an ubuntu1 and sync when Debian does the next upload
[13:11] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, that's probably good enough.
[13:17] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center tags c7f9346 Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.38.1 * Upstream version 3.38.1 * https://deb.li/3Uru1
[13:18] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center pristine-tar ed3545e Sebastien Bacher gnome-control-center_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-control-center_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-control-center_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3SKe4
[13:18] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/latest 75de78c Sebastien Bacher * pushed 17 commits * https://deb.li/NkrM
[13:39] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center signed tags f8d49f0 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.38.1-1ubuntu1 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.38.1-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/Pdhz
[13:39] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master c38f312 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 26 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3JNys
[13:39] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 32d094b Dušan Kazik po/sk.po * Update Slovak translation * https://deb.li/nGcv
[13:39] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master f386ca6 Cheng-Chia Tseng po/zh_TW.po * Update Chinese (Taiwan) translation * https://deb.li/iwk4n
[13:39] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 5d42f20 Efstathios Iosifidis po/el.po * Update Greek translation * https://deb.li/lG8c
[13:39] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 35e1577 Hui Wang panels/sound/cc-sound-panel.c * sound: update the profile list after getting the signal from gvc * https://deb.li/3Pkty
[13:39] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 2cb8709 Arne panels/sound/cc-subwoofer-slider.c * sound: fix subwoofer slider * https://deb.li/5N6G
[13:44] <KGB-1> glib debian/master Simon McVittie * [open] merge request !9: WIP: clean up unmanaged libraries * https://deb.li/i4Dze
[13:52] <KGB-1> glib Simon McVittie 195746 * commented merge request !9 * https://deb.li/3iJt2
[13:58] <KGB-1> glib Simon McVittie 195747 * commented merge request !9 * https://deb.li/i2uBC
[14:05] <KGB-1> glib Simon McVittie 195749 * commented merge request !9 * https://deb.li/3UM3G
[14:07] <KGB-1> glib Didier 'OdyX' Raboud 195750 * commented merge request !9 * https://deb.li/itDJM
[14:14] <KGB-2> glib Simon McVittie 195753 * commented merge request !9 * https://deb.li/3I7Ie
[15:12] <paride> jibel, it seems that the /efi directory is back in the ISO images
[15:12] <paride> I think it has different capitalization than before
[15:13] <paride> but it's there
[16:04] <Laney> seb128: got to reject your nautilus, sorry, you can't do that substitution in an arch:all package :(
[18:05] <seb128> Laney, thanks for catching that one, do you have an opinion on how to fix it? I'm leaning toward moving the apport script into the nautilus binary...