[03:07] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:04] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:40] <marcoagpinto> hello!
[07:43] <sorcerer> im trying out a different but very sleek ubuntu
[07:43] <sorcerer> ubuntuDDE
[19:28] <tomreyn> TJ-: maybe you should find some other buttons to debug in bed. :-P
[19:28] <TJ-> tomreyn: !!
[19:29] <tomreyn> we're (especially now) going OT in #ubuntu, so i switched over here
[19:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: then the duvet could fall out of its cover :D
[19:29] <tomreyn> oh yes that sounds too dangerous
[19:30] <daftykins> you could be trapped for hours going in to investigate :)
[19:30] <daftykins> TJ-: \o hope you're well, i was just looking at your (almost) FDE guide recently, to use for creating some ubuntu server VMs for a friend's business
[19:31] <tomreyn> i have a hp laptop i run 20.04 on, which has a touchpad which i use occasionally, but this system has suspend issues of its own, so that's not useful input to your question
[19:32] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Updated touch recognizer of value " https://fossbytes.com/touchegg-2-0-0-released-a-linux-multi-touch-gesture-recognizer-app/ >> A Linux Multi-Touch Gesture Recognizer App ?
[19:32] <tomreyn> it even gets stuck when i connect or disconnect or just power on/off the external monitor during uefi startup (pre-boot, i think)
[19:33] <TJ-> tomreyn: ouch! We've got Thinkpad E495s with AMD Ryzen 7s; so far been really good with no problems
[19:36] <tomreyn> aaw lovely
[19:36] <tomreyn> i didn't get a say in what was being bought, as you can tell by the brand name
[19:37] <tomreyn> 1600 eur for... crap
[19:37] <daftykins> :(
[19:38] <tomreyn> 400 of those probably went into the hipster uefi additions
[19:39] <tomreyn> now super secure because we have all kind of totally awesome sekuriti software running in ring -2
[19:39] <TJ-> ouch! we only paid £425 each for 6 E495s in February. Once Covid hit and demand for laptops shot up they doubled in price
[19:40] <daftykins> pesky scalpers
[19:41] <tomreyn> mine was a standard (pre corona) retail price, but they probably got 10 or 20% off.
[19:41] <TJ-> That is the Lenovo price :) We got in when AMD were still offering rebates to buy Ryzen 7 mobile devices
[19:42] <tomreyn> this lenovo price is indeed reaaally cheap if you compare to intel models
[19:44] <TJ-> we went for no OS, 32GB RAM, 477GB NVME, full-HD
[19:44] <tomreyn> https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E495-Laptop-Review-Inexpensive-office-device-with-a-lot-of-power-but-without-keyboard-illumination.434877.0.html
[19:44] <tomreyn> maybe you got the campus model
[19:45] <tomreyn> did you have problems with the gpu initially?
[19:46] <Bashing-om> UWN: On the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue651 :D
[19:46] <TJ-> No, no problems whatever
[19:46] <TJ-> put 20.04 alpha/beta on them from the start
[19:47] <tomreyn> oh ok
[19:47] <tomreyn> oh the 's' is the campus model, right? students?
[19:50] <TJ-> not sure... don't think there was that distinction when we ordered
[19:50] <daftykins> usually the s's in the other ranges are slightly slimmer variants with some sacrifices
[19:50] <tomreyn> it has an rj-45, usb-c + usb-a v3.1, hdmi 1.4b. all you need.
[19:51] <tomreyn> oh could be slim as well
[19:52] <TJ-> my main aim was to buy something with AMD not Intel CPUs, and wanted latest Ryzen mobile
[19:53] <TJ-> They're a bit plastic-y and we're about to do a warranty claim on some that appear to becoming banana shaped but we've not had problems in performance
[19:53] <tomreyn> oh hehe
[19:55] <TJ-> mainly because my apprentice, Cal, doesn't like that the corner of his screen when 'black' has a white tinge unless you press the bezel :D
[20:00] <tomreyn> this sounds like decomposing-too-early
[20:02] <TJ-> looks like poor chassis design allowing the case to flex
[20:06] <daftykins> kinda what i'd expect of a value series :>
[23:40] <guiverc> :)   looks like I've new wallpapers being installed !
[23:40] <Maik> groovy?
[23:40] <guiverc> yeah..
[23:40] <Bashing-om> guiverc: \o/ eye candy :D
[23:40] <Maik> cool
[23:41] <Maik> saw the post by OMG!Ubuntu earlier today
[23:43] <guiverc> :)
[23:43] <Maik> i'm almost tempted to do as i did in the past, instead of sticking to LTS releases just follow and install every new version that comes out.
[23:46] <guiverc> As I'm heavily testing (esp. Lubuntu), it just makes sense for me to be on dev cycle...  I try and last a week before I bump my release, I got ~26 hours on stable focal; so didn't do well that time