[00:17] <tgp1994> Hi everyone, sorry if this is a dumb question - I'm using Ubuntu server 18.04. My primary terminal is getting spammed with what looks like dmesg/debug output that should normally be sent to the messages/logging terminal. Any ideas how I can silent this output on my main terminal?
[00:18] <naribia> hello, I'm trying to get amdgpu drivers installed on Ubuntu 20.04, via "./amdgpu-pro-install --opencl=legacy,pal --headless"
[00:18] <naribia> appears to install fine
[00:19] <naribia> however, "dpkg -l amdgpu" shows no packages, does that mean it did not install correctly?
[00:25] <pavlos> did you miss | grep
[00:26] <pavlos> my mistake
[00:26] <oerheks> amdgpu should be installed standard, you want the grep for amdgpu-pro  i guess
[00:27] <naribia> ok I see it now with just 'dpkg -l'
[00:27] <naribia> amdgpu-pro-core, and others
[00:29] <oerheks> $ apt show amdgpu-pro
[00:31] <naribia> oerheks: ah got it, thanks
[01:10] <tatertots> Richard_Cavell: does the disk drive in question show up in BIOS?
[01:45] <randmin_342> Hi, I use DNS over VPN, and it's working with ipv4. I also get a ping to the DNS Server via ip6. However, if I disable ip4, I cannot resolve any domain names. Where would I start debugging this (e.g. does ubuntu work with ip6 only?) Could be that the DNS (pihole) is not set up to resolve ip6 (but it seems to be). Any help/hints are highly appreciated.
[01:46] <oerheks> there is #pihole here on #freenode
[01:48] <randmin_342> I was not sure if this may be related to how ubuntu handles ip4/6, but I will ask there, too.
[02:06] <CarlFK> I upgraded to Focal, and now Alt-Tab seems to .. maybe it is now tab?
[02:07] <CarlFK> no, it isn't the same as tab. but regardless, how do I tie it to "switch apps" I guess
[02:09] <CarlFK> also, no wifi. lspci shows: Broadcom  802.11a/b/g/n
[02:11] <Maik> CarlFK: it's Super+TAB
[02:12] <oerheks> lspci shows more, the 8 digit hex number?
[02:12] <CarlFK> Maik: thanks.  might be able to get used to this
[02:12] <Maik> CarlFK: you can change it in Settings -> Keyboard Shortcuts if you like
[02:13] <CarlFK> Maik: thanks.  again.
[02:13] <Maik> you're most welcome
[02:15] <derpadmin> CarlFK, did you installed the proprietary drivers for wifi?
[02:15] <CarlFK> oerheks: full line 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n
[02:15] <derpadmin> it is an option somewhere in the GUI
[02:15] <CarlFK> derpadmin: it was a while ago.  Broadcom... sounds like something that needs them
[02:16] <derpadmin> if the GUI does not work, there might be a package and a procedure somewhere
[02:17] <Bashing-om> !bcm | CarlFK
[02:17] <CarlFK> found the gui thing.  "Additional Drivers"
[02:18] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: No - Broadcom is proprietary ^ ,
[02:27] <jackiiilong> does ubuntu need reboot to  improve kernel security?
[02:28] <jackiiilong> does ubuntu need auto reboot to  improve kernel security?
[02:30] <oerheks> to  improve kernel security? .. no, only to apply a new kernel or core components
[02:31] <oerheks> and Livepatch can hot-swap a kernel, in LTS only
[02:42] <randmin_342> I cannot resolve any domain when using ipv6 DNS (and disable ipv4). How do I enable?
[02:43] <randmin_342> 5.4.0-48-generic #52~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 10 12:50:22 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:44] <tatertots> randmin_342: ok, then if you choose pure IPv6 then you know the repercussions of that choice
[02:45] <tatertots> randmin_342: if you can't handle the repercussions of that choice , consider another choice
[02:45] <tatertots> repercussions and or consequences
[02:46] <vyst> I transferred a file to my wife's external hard drive and unplugged it before it finished unmounting. Now when I try to open the HD, I get an error message: "Sorry, could not duisplay all the contents of "My Passport": Error when getting information for file...: input/output error"
[02:47] <vyst> The file in question is the one I was transferring.
[02:47] <tatertots> vyst: can you open the original file?
[02:47] <vyst> How do I get access to the hard drive again so I can delete the file in question and safely keep the rest?
[02:47] <randmin_342> I believe to understand security concerns (have strong ip6table rules, router with ip6 firewall), I need it only for debugging purposes
[02:47] <tatertots> vyst: if yes, copy it again, this time try not to make the same mistake twice
[02:47] <vyst> tatertots: No, when I click "Ok", the hard drive shows up empty.
[02:48] <vyst> Oh wait, you mean the original file on my computer?
[02:48] <vyst> Let me see.
[02:48] <derpadmin> randmin_342, can you resolve domains?
[02:48] <derpadmin> ping an ipv6 ip
[02:49] <vyst> tatertots: yes it opens. I'll try transferring it now.
[02:49] <tatertots> randmin_342: you think you need it, but when you got it, you didn't know what to do with it
[02:49] <vyst> tatertots: didn't work. Pulled up the same error.
[02:50] <CarlFK> Where is "system" in  System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers
[02:50] <randmin_342> @vyst I have good experience with testdisk (quite low level though): https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[02:50] <tatertots> vyst: if the original produces the same result as the 1:1 copy and or clone, then you got the same result as the original, a clone or copy at best can be identical to the original
[02:51] <vyst> tatertots: I didn't quite get that.
[02:51] <tatertots> vyst: with that having been said, it unrealistic to expect the copy to function any differently than it's original
[02:52] <vyst> tatertots: Is there a way I can safe the rest of the files on the hard drive?
[02:52] <vyst> save*
[02:52] <tatertots> vyst: your original is of no use to use, neither is your "copy", that is expected
[02:53] <vyst> tatertots: I might not be being clear: I don't care about the file transferred. I care about the rest of the hard drive.
[02:53] <vyst> I can't access anything on it.
[02:53] <tatertots> vyst: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[02:53] <vyst> yes
[02:53] <oerheks> run a fsck on that hdd, if it is formatted ntfs, use windows
[02:53] <randmin_342> derpadmin: I can using ip4. A friend cannot, however, using ip4. May be a problem with Win10 & DNS via VPN (there are issues) but ip6 seems to be the way to go. So I want to debug the VPN for that purpose (and then go back to ip4 DNS)
[02:54] <tatertots> vyst: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[02:54] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[02:54] <tatertots> vyst: follow instructions if not installed then follow through
[02:54] <vyst> stand by...
[02:54] <vyst> Installing...
[02:55] <vyst> https://termbin.com/9owl
[02:55] <derpadmin> randmin_342, what? there is a vpn now?
[02:56] <derpadmin> randmin_342, do you have native ipv6 ?
[02:56] <vyst> oerheks: I saw fsck on Google. What's it supposed to do?
[02:56] <oerheks> read the wiki?
[02:57] <randmin_342>  derpadmin: Yes and no. Debugging VPN is the reason I want to use DNS over ip6 in the first place and found out it is not enabled/working.
[02:57] <tatertots> vyst: in terminal>      ls -ld /media/vyst/My\ Passport/*/|nc termbin.com 9999
[02:57] <randmin_342> derpadmin: I figured I may have IPv6 Capable device, not native, just checking
[02:58] <vyst> https://termbin.com/1j2l
[02:58] <derpadmin> randmin_342, it is a binary question, "do you have native ipv6 connectivity?"
[02:58] <derpadmin> let's arrest vyst for piracy!
[02:59] <derpadmin> ok, not helpful, sorry
[02:59] <vyst> oerheks: I'm reading this, and it's definitely something I'll need help with.
[02:59] <vyst> derpadmin, YOU CAUGHT ME
[02:59] <tatertots> vyst: looks accessible, what can't you access from this https://termbin.com/1j2l ??
[02:59] <vyst> tatertots: Absolutely nothing.
[02:59] <vyst> Let me get up a screen shot for you.
[03:01] <vyst> tatertots: https://imgur.com/a/AMLtnNE
[03:01] <vyst> First is the error message, then what I see after I click OK.
[03:02] <vyst> derpadmin: On moral considerations, I canceled Netflix due to their what appears to be open support of pedophilia. I figured the high seas were more ethical than supporting that.
[03:03] <derpadmin> vyst, come again?
[03:03] <vyst> derpadmin: I canceled Netflix because of their pushing the show/movie "Cuties", and decided to pirate my own entertainment instead.
[03:03] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#A12.04_.28Precise_Pangolin.29  (there is no Focal).. I get: Reinstallation of bcmwl-kernel-source is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[03:03] <vyst> tatertots: Did you see the screenshots?
[03:04] <CarlFK> um.. why not?   and do I care?
[03:04] <tatertots> vyst: yes i see it
[03:04] <vyst> tatertots: I'm happy to hear everything looks accessible through the terminal. Any idea why everything isn't accessible via GUI?
[03:05] <tatertots> vyst: in terminal>      ls -lh /media/vyst/My\ Passport/Ri*|nc termbin.com 9999
[03:05] <vyst> ls: cannot access '/media/vyst/My Passport/Rick.and.Morty.S04E04.Claw.and.Hoarder.Special.Ricktims.Morty.HDTV.x264-CRiMSON[TGx]': Input/output error
[03:05] <vyst> ls: cannot access '/media/vyst/My Passport/Rick.and.Morty.S04E05.1080p.WEBRip.x264-TBS[TGx]': Input/output error
[03:05] <vyst> https://termbin.com/shox
[03:06] <tatertots> vyst: file is corrupt and or doesn't exist, so i would expect some error or issue trying to consume it
[03:06] <derpadmin> vyst, I am torn appart on this one
[03:07] <tatertots> vyst: that file should have shown up in the link you just shared but it does NOT
[03:07] <derpadmin> just read an article from the new york post about it
[03:07] <vyst> derpadmin: About the Cuties ridiculousness?
[03:07] <tatertots> vyst: with that having been said, i must disregard that specific file as it does not show here https://termbin.com/shox
[03:08] <vyst> tatertots: Any ideas yet how to access all the other files?
[03:09] <tatertots> vyst: try to view Meteorite-Final.odt
[03:10] <vyst> via the terminal?
[03:10] <derpadmin> vyst, yes, the filmmaker (a woman) won a bunch of awards including "Academy Gold Fellowship for Women" it seems to touch a sensitive subject that she witness first hand
[03:10] <tatertots> vyst: no via GUI
[03:10] <vyst> tatertots: I can't access anything via GUI.
[03:10] <vyst> Nothing shows up.
[03:10] <derpadmin> but fix your filesystem first :)
[03:11] <vyst> Ah yes, the NYT spinning it as something other than outright support of pedophilia. Imagine my shock.
[03:12] <vyst> tatertots: When I open the hard drive via GUI, I get the error message, and after I click OK, it says the folder is empty. That's the problem.
[03:12] <derpadmin> it is based on real life events, and they interview real life kids to see why they act that way, but I get the point that re-enacting something that was wrong to start with with children... it's like a catch 22
[03:12] <tatertots> vyst: strange , because i can see the contents in terminal just fine
[03:13] <tatertots> vyst: do you know how to open your PDF viewer application?
[03:13] <vyst> tatertots: Again, that makes me feel good that the contents are fine.
[03:13] <vyst> tatertots: Sure, do you want me to see if I can open the odt from there?
[03:13] <tatertots> derpadmin: this is ubuntu support NOT IMDB movie/show site
[03:14] <vyst> tatertots: Don't blame him, I started it.
[03:14] <tatertots> vyst: yes
[03:14] <vyst> tatertots: Yes, that worked.
[03:14] <derpadmin> ok, let's focus on the filesystem
[03:14] <vyst> I was able access the files and open a PDF.
[03:14] <vyst> Through the document viewer.
[03:15] <vyst> So...this is some weird Nautilus glitch?
[03:15] <tatertots> vyst: ok ...that means if i said "the files on the external drive are accessible" that would be a true statement
[03:15] <tatertots> opposite of false
[03:16] <vyst> Which is great.
[03:16] <vyst> So the question is... why does it show up as empty when I try to access it normally through the GUI?
[03:17] <tatertots> vyst: there is no rick and morty file(s) so i must disregard that as some flaw cause by your non proper removal of the drive earlier
[03:17] <oerheks> interesting, you read anything but the wiki to check the filesystem with fsck
[03:17] <vyst> tatertots: Can we fix the flaw?
[03:17] <oerheks> and as it seems ntfs, use windows
[03:18] <tatertots> vyst: you can run a file system check on the disk with it connected to a Windows 10 PC
[03:19] <tatertots> vyst: outside of that, there is no real issue accessing the files that appear here https://termbin.com/1j2l
[03:20] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx  didn't help me.  this did: https://wiki.debian.org/wl
[03:20] <derpadmin> I think linux had a ntfs utility too no?
[03:20] <CarlFK> (with a little skipping over the debian repo bit)
[03:20] <derpadmin> ntfsfix /dev/sdxx
[03:21] <derpadmin> where sdxx is your usbdrive
[03:21] <tatertots> CarlFK: good...glad you are using wifi now
[03:21] <vyst> tatertots: Hooking it up to my wife's Windows machine now...
[03:22] <derpadmin> hmm, no, tatertots idea of using windows chkdsk is better
[03:22] <CarlFK> tatertots: well, still on wire, but ip a shows wlp3s0:  lets see if it comes up on reboot.   brb
[03:24] <vyst> Hm. Weird. So I plugged it into the Windows machine and all the files are showing up, include the R&M files. I just tried to delete them and I can't.
[03:26] <tatertots> vyst: your drive is exhibiting abnormalities, even when used with Windows 10, I would expect some of those abnormalities are carried to the Linux PC's when transporting this drive between systems
[03:27] <derpadmin> vyst : use the chkdsk utility on windows, but it is off topic for ubuntu, see also : I pm'ed you
[03:36] <jackiiilong> oerheks :why my ubuntu sys auto reboot sometimes
[04:32] <adrian_1908> I'm looking for PDF Editor recommendations for Ubuntu. I first tried LibreOffice Draw, but it's not able to even display the PDFs I have correctly.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: inkscape
[04:39] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: nice, I'll give that a try. I always have that installed anyway!
[04:53] <adrian_1908> That worked surprisingly well, thanks for the tip!
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> +1 adrian_1908
[06:34] <cjoke> after a cold start gdm3 loads , I log in and all I get is a blank screen. I restart gdm3 and log in again, now it's not blank, seems like normal. This happens when I have nvidia driver installed,  opensourcedriver nouveau I dont get blank screen. is this a known issue ?
[06:37] <mgedmin> in the sense that nvidia is known to cause problems for linux systems? yes; the specific situation with your pc?  not necessarily
[06:38] <mgedmin> I would file a bug (or search for an existing one about the same graphics card model)
[06:38] <cjoke> I think it's rare that hw-driver should interferrence with login.
[06:38] <mgedmin> often I've seen advice to file a new bug even if you think your bug is the same -- it's easier to mark a bug as duplicate than to disentangle several issues presenting similar symptoms from one mess of a bug report
[06:39] <mgedmin> on login it's possible that gnome-shell/gnome-settings-daemon is trying to change your monitor resolution, which could cause a blank screen
[06:39] <mgedmin> you may want to move ~/.config/monitors.xml aside for testing
[06:40] <cjoke> yea, your right, Ill guess Ill try to run in debug mode aswell. Im lazy throwing in question from my hips , thanks for responce :) <3
[06:40] <mgedmin> (or it might be some nvidia-specific stuff started from /etc/xdg/autostart or similar; I don't know!)
[07:07] <x0n> is zsys worth it yet? I just built 0.5.2 from source and apparently there is still no command to restore a state taken with the "save" command...
[07:11] <x0n> I have to say I like the idea of having snapshots integrated with package management, so is there a way to make zsys useful with manual workarounds, or is this something better avoided until next os major version?
[07:14] <oerheks> Zsys is still early in development ..
[07:14] <oerheks> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/03/ubuntu-20-04s-zsys-adds-zfs-snapshots-to-package-management/
[07:21] <x0n> oerheks, yeah I've seen that. I've tried an ubuntu install on zfs a couple months back and noticed zsys seemed to do everything on the "save state" front. so I was wondering whether it's progressed far enough to restore states yet
[07:34] <rdz> hey all. How can I enable my second display to switch workspaces, too?
[07:34] <rdz> currently, when switching workspaces, all windows on second monitor stick
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> rdz: you could try workspaces to dock extension from the repos, theres a lot of settings in there
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock | rdz
[07:36] <rdz> lotuspsychje, thanks.. i'll try
[07:37] <rdz> lotuspsychje, i just found the setting in gnome-tweaks: "Workspaces on primary display only" and it is checked.. however, i cannot uncheck it
[07:38] <rdz> ah, figured it out.. it's a ctually radio button appearing as checkbox
[07:38] <rdz> bad UX
[07:38] <rdz> but it works
[07:39] <rdz> i had to check "Workspaces span displays"
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> rdz: +1
[08:03] <kieto> Hi! What's the most stable software to mount my google drive as a folder in ubuntu? I've checked gnome online acconts but it's not what I'm looking for. Right now I'm using self-made rclone scripts to manually sync my google drive with a local directory. Is https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse the best way to go?
[08:07] <mgedmin> ah yes, gvfs-fuse uses internal IDs of some sort instead of human-readable filenames in google-drive:// mounts
[08:07] <kieto> yes, I can't use it to work from the terminal
[08:07] <mgedmin> I once had some command-line tool to sync my google drive, but the external HDD died and I never bothered resurrecting my setup
[08:31] <kab0m> How can i disable hibernation and remove the menu entrie from the restart menu? im using KDE plasma
[08:31] <oerheks> the standard google account thingy mounts in the homefolder, IIRC
[08:34] <hwdyki> anyone knows why ruby gems installed by apt are now in /usr/share/rubygems-integration instead of /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby ?
[09:02] <XATRIX> Hi, can you advice ? I'm trying to install fglrx drivers on my laptop. But seems like my Ubuntu doesn't know about it
[09:03] <oerheks> fglrx is old, standard would be openradeon installed.
[09:03] <XATRIX> https://pastebin.com/BFRUzWHv
[09:04] <oerheks> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[09:04] <XATRIX> 18.04.5 TLS
[09:04] <XATRIX> i915  in use
[09:04] <oerheks> that would be intel.
[09:04] <XATRIX> Yes, but
[09:05] <XATRIX> 03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun LE [Radeon HD 8550M / R5 M230]
[09:05] <XATRIX> 	Kernel driver in use: radeon
[09:05] <XATRIX> 	Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu
[09:06] <XATRIX> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[09:09] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics or DRI_PRIME=1 <program name> in terminal, see https://askubuntu.com/questions/1068343/switch-between-intel-amd-gpu-on-18-04
[09:09] <oerheks> and maybe your bios gives an option to set radeon as primairy
[09:10] <XATRIX> Ahh
[09:15] <XATRIX> oerheks: [xatrix@SYSADMIN-NB ~]$ DRM_PRIME=1 glxgears -info | grep -i renderer
[09:15] <XATRIX> GL_RENDERER   = Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400 (HSW GT2)
[09:43] <ksk> Hola. Soo, someone has been sporting 18.04 and used the default installed "Notes" app, the user was german and he used it by calling a localized term "Notiz"; It seems to me this app was tomboy
[09:43] <ksk> Now Tomboy is not in 20.04
[09:44] <ksk> How can Ubuntu do that, that you have a standard app in a standard Ubuntu DE, but not even an uprade-path?
[09:46] <oerheks> Tomboy has been discontinued in Ubuntu 19.04 and later
[09:46] <oerheks> tons of alternatives, gnote is compatable
[09:46] <oerheks> !info gnote
[09:46] <Habbie> oerheks, compatible or comparable?
[09:47] <oerheks> c/compatible
[09:48] <ksk> oerheks: thanks, I just found that on the webz. The used did not encounter automagic migration of his data though :/
[09:48] <ksk> *the user
[09:48] <oerheks> oh, and a fork lives on as tomboy-ng https://github.com/tomboy-notes/tomboy-ng/releases
[09:49] <ksk> Spawning an older Ubuntu container and exporting it is I guess. thanks again..
[09:50] <mgedmin> tomboy notes are just xml files in a dot directory, I'm sure there are tools to import these into other note apps
[09:50] <ksk> I found that xml, but though that to be just the "headlines" of the notes. The user was not too helpful in describing what sort of notes he stored :X
[09:55] <ace_me> upgrade to ubuntu 20 dropped me to initramfs prompt :(
[09:55] <ace_me> some crash at the middle of installs logged me out
[09:55] <ace_me> lucky me (new nick?)
[09:56] <mgedmin> ouch
[09:56] <mgedmin> for next time, don't reboot if an upgrade fails halfway through
[09:57] <mgedmin> for now, let's see how we can recover this system
[09:57] <Mystified1234> having issues with "torbrowser-launcher" it hangs verifying signature or during install. I tried resolving with this guide https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=298095
[09:57] <mgedmin> it would probably be easiest to boot a live session, mount the hard drive, chroot, and let apt dist-upgrade finish its job there
[09:57] <Mystified1234> but failed
[09:58] <oerheks> Mystified1234, how did you get tor browser?
[09:59] <Mystified1234> I've had on the pc since I installed 20.04 in April via snap (ubuntu packages) I think
[09:59] <ace_me> mgedmin: I was avle to login into terminal ALT+F2
[09:59] <Mystified1234> each update works without fail
[09:59] <ace_me> shoud I run apt-get upgrade to continue ?
[09:59] <Mystified1234> not this one
[10:00] <oerheks> this is old.. https://snapcraft.io/tor
[10:01] <mgedmin> ace_me: the usual fix for an interrupted upgrade is to run sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f, possibly repeating both commands until they report that there's nothing more to be done
[10:01] <Mystified1234>  always run "# apt update && apt upgrade && apt autoremove"
[10:01] <mgedmin> ah, you can then run apt autoremove at the end to remove stuff that's no longer needed for the OS
[10:01] <oerheks> ubuntu suggests to use the tor package from their site, or follow this page to fix the key https://itsfoss.com/install-tar-browser-linux/
[10:02] <oerheks> gpg --homedir "$HOME/.local/share/torbrowser/gnupg_homedir" --refresh-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com
[10:02] <oerheks> not sure this is the fix for the snap package.
[10:02] <oerheks> then again, it is 2 years old..
[10:03] <ace_me> started sudo sudo dpkg re-configure -a
[10:03] <mgedmin> ace_me: that's not the right command!
[10:03] <ace_me> I can see lot of dependency problems
[10:03] <mgedmin> ace_me: it's sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:04] <mgedmin> dpkg-reconfigure is something completely different!
[10:04] <ace_me> I've stopped that
[10:04] <mgedmin> dependency problems are normal at this point
[10:04] <ace_me> should I re-run it ?
[10:04] <mgedmin> yes
[10:04] <ace_me> lot of deps error
[10:04] <Mystified1234> purging, Ill see what happends
[10:04] <mgedmin> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f should take care of the dependency problems
[10:05] <Mystified1234> ok purged
[10:05] <ace_me> yes.. but as it was interrupted I should go for the moment with dpkg c-configure -a ;)
[10:05] <ace_me> let'ssee whatg comes out
[10:06] <Mystified1234> dpkg c-configure -a should it not be "dpkg --configure -a"
[10:07] <mgedmin> I would do the 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' first, but it shouldn't really matter
[10:09] <mgedmin> a half-installed upgrade has many things to be done: some packages have been unpacked, but not yet configured, and some packages haven't been unpacked yet
[10:09] <Mystified1234> apt install --fix-missing
[10:09] <mgedmin> dpkg --configure -a fixes the first part; apt-get dist-upgrade -f fixes both parts, but does the 2nd part first
[10:10] <mgedmin> a distro upgrade may require some packages to be removed because they conflict with other, newer packages, and I fear that apt install --fix-missing can't handle package removals
[10:10] <Mystified1234> line 541, in verify
[10:10] <Mystified1234>     raise errors.BadSignatures(results[1], results=results)
[10:10] <Mystified1234> gpg.errors.BadSignatures: 110775B5D101FB36BC6C911BEB774491D9FF06E2: Key expired
[10:10] <Mystified1234> During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
[10:11] <Mystified1234> mgedmin: thanks, did not know.. D
[10:12] <deanc> Im having troubles connecting to an nfs share which previously worked. Finder on OSX is not very helpful and just says it has problems connecting. Where can I debug?
[10:15] <Mystified1234> https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher/issues/485
[10:16] <Mystified1234> wget -v 'https://github.com/sysrqb/torbrowser-launcher/raw/develop/share/torbrowser-launcher/tor-browser-developers.asc' ; sudo cp -v ~/tor-browser-developers.asc /usr/share/torbrowser-launcher/ ; torbrowser-launcher ; echo "DONE"
[10:17] <Mystified1234> The version of Tor Browser you have installed is earlier than it should be, which could be a sign of an attack!
[10:17] <Mystified1234> the install hangs
[11:33] <ace_me> mgedmin: now I get grub rescue at reboot
[11:46] <Mystified1234> ace_me: how have you installed it to usb
[11:46] <ace_me> I did dpkg -configure -a
[11:46] <ace_me> than reboot n
[11:47] <ace_me> now I create a usb
[11:47] <ace_me> 23%
[11:47] <ace_me> Will try to boot from there and do a sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[11:47] <Mystified1234> show me the package or the link
[11:47] <ace_me> https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=20.04.1&architecture=amd64
[11:47] <Mystified1234> grub rescue is an iso that boots your pc
[11:48] <ace_me> the above will work no ?
[11:48] <ace_me> I use startup to write it on disk
[11:48] <ace_me> on usb I mean
[11:48] <Mystified1234> yes
[11:48] <Mystified1234> whar are you trying to acheive
[11:49] <Mystified1234> what are you trying to acheive
[11:49] <Mystified1234> are you installing ubuntu or repair an os thats noot booting
[11:49] <ace_me> I was upgrading 18.04 to 20.04
[11:49] <ace_me> it crashed at middle somewhere and I was graphically logged out
[11:50] <ace_me> Then I reboot as i was not able to login and started dpkg configure -a
[11:50] <Mystified1234> im guessing that might n=be due to your graphics driver
[11:50] <ace_me> possible
[11:50] <Mystified1234> try ctrl alt F1 or F2
[11:50] <ace_me> I was like one year ago had a World of Tanks installed and tried some nvidia drivers
[11:51] <ace_me> Now I have grub> rescue
[11:51] <ace_me> i was able to crtrl+f1 before dpkg configure a
[11:52] <ace_me> in shell I was running dokg configure -a
[11:52] <Mystified1234> ok grub rescue, you need to boot from the usb, not hard drive so, you need to press f12 f10 f 9 depending on your pc to get into your bios/uefi settings, then boot the usb
[11:52] <ace_me> now nee to fix the grub probably and hopefully will work
[11:53] <ace_me> I have 2 hdds Mystified1234
[11:53] <ace_me> not sure if it will sda1 or sdb1
[11:53] <Mystified1234> you need to create a bootable media to run grub rescue
[11:54] <ace_me> 96% is created
[11:54] <ace_me> 98%
[11:54] <ace_me> done..
[11:54] <Mystified1234> does it boot
[11:54] <ace_me> yes
[11:54] <Mystified1234> if doesn't boot then you have not made the media bootable
[11:55] <ace_me> is now presenting loader of Ubuntu
[11:55] <ace_me> from stick
[11:56] <Mystified1234> goto youtube & see  how to make a bootable grub rescue  media
[11:56] <mgedmin> ace_me: you did not do apt-get dist-upgrade -f before rebooting?
[11:56] <Mystified1234> thats not grub rescue
[11:56] <ace_me> is now checking disk
[11:57] <ace_me> is not this ?
[11:57] <ace_me> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:57] <ace_me> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[11:57] <Mystified1234> try typing " ctrl + alt & F2" at the same time
[11:57] <ace_me> why ?
[11:58] <Mystified1234> then run from root " #" what mgedmin: stated
[11:58] <ace_me> just to have a terminal to play with ?
[11:58] <Mystified1234> yes thats right
[11:58] <ace_me> ok
[11:58] <Mystified1234> then run what he stated
[11:58] <ace_me> got one
[11:59] <ace_me> but login does not work
[11:59] <Mystified1234> blkid or lsblk afterwards an look at you drives & partitions
[11:59] <Mystified1234> sudo -i
[11:59] <Mystified1234> root password
[11:59] <ace_me> now we booted from usb and nothing yet available
[12:00] <ace_me> I have in ctrl+f1 an install welcome
[12:00] <Mystified1234> goodnight, my wife is waiting for me..  speak tomorrow
[12:00] <ace_me> I've just clicked on try ubuntu
[12:01] <ace_me> ok
[12:01] <ace_me> sleep well
[12:04] <ace_me> I can't type in terminal
[12:04] <ace_me> no letters
[12:08] <bendman> has there been discussion of including .AppImage support (prompt to make executable, register as a desktop application, etc) to Ubuntu? I'm thinking something similar to .dmg file installation on macos.
[12:10] <mgedmin> bendman: no, but canonical seems to be strategically focused on snaps in exclusion to all other package formats
[12:10] <bendman> users can already manually setup each package themselves or try to find some working daemon that handles it, but I'm thinking the user experience could easily be better
[12:12] <bendman> mgedmin: thanks for the response. with different competing packages would it make sense and be possible to add a .AppImage package handler to the snap store? I've never built a snap package myself, so I'm not sure of the limitations.
[12:12] <mgedmin> I have zero familiarity with appimages (and I've never tried to build a snap either)
[12:14] <bendman> alright, I'll look more into it, thanks!
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:51] <leibniz[m]> Why can't I use hdparam to enable APM? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VjYHTnBf4b/
[13:00] <samdragon> I'm on 20.04 (5.4 kernel) but want to see if a wifi hw bug doesnt repro in with the 5.3 kernel. In general is downgrading kernels like that risky or not that big a deal?
[13:02] <Maik> samdragon: 5.3 kernel is EOL afaik
[13:02] <jpds> samdragon: Just pick the old kernel in GRUB
[13:04] <ace_me> it looks barrier refuses to connect with ubuntu 20
[13:04] <ace_me> in 18 I was using synergy and it worked
[13:04] <ace_me> any hints
[13:04] <ace_me> I did also ufw allow 24800
[13:08] <samdragon> I only have 5.4.X versions of the kernel in grub, so id have to install it, but Im a noob and not sure if downgrading like that to an outdated kernel will make everything blow up
[13:08] <samdragon> granted its only 5.4 -> 5.3 so maybe its not a big deal and i should just try it
[13:09] <jpds> samdragon: Kernel installs are not the same as a normal package install
[13:09] <jpds> samdragon: They install a new kernel separately
[13:09] <jpds> They don't downgrade/upgrade anything
[13:11] <samdragon> im under the assumption that maybe there are landmines Im not aware of, like all the packages ive got installed will only work with the newer kernel, ie theyve been compiled/conigured for 5.4 and if I boot with 5.3 then some random crucial package or app would blow up
[13:11] <samdragon> configured*
[13:11] <jpds> samdragon: You're wrong
[13:11] <jpds> Userspace applications are not tied directly to a kernel
[13:12] <jpds> Otherwise, you'd have to reinstall everything everytime there was a new kernel
[13:12] <samdragon> ok that sounds like im concerned about a non issue
[13:12] <jpds> samdragon: And again, you can just reboot, go to GRUB, and boot back into another kernel version
[13:13] <samdragon> thanks, gonna give it a try
[13:14] <Ether_Man> Hey so, in linux5.9 there's a driver added for rtl8821ce. That kernel is currently rc8 so I'd assume released soon. How long before that's installable with that driver available after that? I assume I'll have to run HWE or something ofc
[13:16] <Ether_Man> Or perhaps, is there some way to use the rc already (in a supported way that is)
[13:16] <Maik> Ether_Man: HWE only gives you kernels from a new buntu release. Once 20.10 is out as stable 5.8 might show up as HWE
[13:16] <jpds> Ether_Man: Technically, you could void all your warrenty and run: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D
[13:17] <Maik> beat me too it
[13:17] <Ether_Man> 5.8 is already hwe in groovy
[13:18] <Ether_Man> Maik: would that have the driver in question enabled?
[13:19] <Ether_Man> or jpds >_<
[13:25] <jpds> Ether_Man: They don't provide a kernel config
[13:32] <Ether_Man> How do they not have a config of a binary built kernel O_o
[13:38] <jpds> Ether_Man: Oh, they certainly have one, they just don't post it on that website
[13:38] <Ether_Man> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.9-rc8/ links directly to them...
[13:38] <jpds> Ether_Man: The .deb sure
[13:39] <jpds> Ether_Man: You asked if the driver is enabled
[13:39] <jpds> Ether_Man: Response> don't have the kernel config, therefore; no idea
[13:39] <Ether_Man> Ah you mean like that
[14:00] <Ether_Man> Not mentioned in the build log so I'd assume it's not. Damn. Oh well, building my own for now is the way to go it seems :/
[14:19] <narakrish> Hello all, I'm running an application on Ubuntu 16.04. That application is dependent on a configuration file present in the home directory. Intermittently we observed that file is getting deleted somehow. Is there any way to identify which process is deleting that file ?
[14:19] <narakrish> Hello all, I'm running an application on Ubuntu 16.04. That application is dependent on a configuration file present in the home directory. Intermittently we observed that config file is getting deleted somehow. Is there any way to identify which process is deleting that file ?
[14:29] <pavlos> narakrish: make the config file immutable, sudo chattr +i -V /home/username/configfile
[15:06] <xbfrog> hi, i'm running ubuntu 20.04 and shotcut video editor 20.02.21. My issue is opening shotcut. it overfills my 24" monitor. I can't reduce the app enough to fit one screen. is this an app issue? or an O.S. issue?
[15:15] <jelly> xbfrog, can you press Alt-Space and "maximize" it to only fill the whole screen?
[15:15] <xfechx> Hello everyone
[15:16] <xfechx> I am having trouble creating new users and the new user doesn't have a 'pretty' prompt
[15:16] <xfechx> don't know much about this, so looking for the tip, on how to make new users keep the same 'pretty' bash prompt
[15:16] <xfechx> like username@hostname: ~/
[15:23] <xfechx> anyone
[15:23] <pavlos> xfechx: did you create new user via gui?
[15:23] <xfechx> no, everything is terminal (server, ssh)
[15:24] <pavlos> xfechx: did you make home dir for that user
[15:25] <xfechx> yes
[15:25] <xfechx> when I change to that user, I only get a $
[15:25] <pavlos> xfechx: that user should have a ~/.bashrc, same as every other user. In there the prompt is set
[15:25] <xfechx> yes - I have copied the .bashrc from other user where it works, and nothing...
[15:25] <xfechx> reboot
[15:25] <xfechx> etc, still the same
[15:27] <pavlos> xfechx: .bashrc has if/then blocks -- the terminal is xterm or something else.
[15:27] <xfechx> not sure how to check this
[15:27] <xfechx> why would it be different than the main user ?
[15:28] <pavlos> xfechx: echo $TERM
[15:28] <pavlos> xfechx: I have xterm-256color so my ssh sessions provide a color PS1
[15:28] <xfechx> xterm-256color
[15:29] <xfechx> yes, my main ssh session is OK, with colour, and everything good
[15:29] <xfechx> if I su other_user
[15:29] <xfechx> then other_user has a super basic prompt, only "$"
[15:30] <pavlos> xfechx: su - otheruser (dash will force to source their .bashrc iirc
[15:30] <xfechx> nope... doesn't work
[15:31] <pavlos> :q
[15:32] <ioria> xfechx, are you sure you're using Bash ? echo $SHELL
[15:44] <xfechx> pavlos
[15:44] <xfechx> in the user that works, it uses /bin/bash
[15:44] <xfechx> in the user that doesn't work
[15:44] <pavlos> xfechx: yes ... ioria asked you a question
[15:45] <xfechx> ah sorry, @ior
[15:45] <xfechx> ioria
[15:45] <xfechx> the user that doesn't work uses /bin/sh , instead of /bin/bash
[15:45] <ioria> xfechx, so, you have your answerù
[15:46] <xfechx> ok, but why is that new user using sh instead of bash, and how can I swap it for that user?
[15:46] <ioria> xfechx, 'cause of useradd
[15:46] <ioria> xfechx, instead of adduser
[15:46] <xfechx> ahhh I see....
[15:47] <ioria> xfechx, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/479086/newly-created-user-on-ubuntu-server-has-the-wrong-shell-prompt
[15:47] <xfechx> so adduser -m will make it bash and homedir ?
[15:47] <xfechx> how can I amend this ?
[15:47] <xfechx> delete user, etc, or ?
[15:48] <ioria> nope
[15:51] <ioria> xfechx, if you now want bash as default  (but i suggest to us adduser) you need to reconfigure dash
[15:51] <xfechx> ok, I think it might be easier to just delete and re add user
[15:53] <omega_doom> hello. During ubuntu loading i have "Press CTRL+C to cancel all filesystem checks in progress". What do i need to do?
[15:54] <sonOfRa> Probably "wait until the file system checks are done"
[15:55] <omega_doom> @sonOfRa. I am waiting for it every loading. It bothers me.
[16:07] <strive> I've learned to just let it do its thing and it runs smoother.
[16:13] <xbfrog> no just the opposite i need to reduce the app to "fit" the screen
[16:14] <xbfrog> jelly: the app is too wide need to reduce it and the app won't go smaller to fit
[16:16] <xbfrog> Jelly: or what might work is setting xrandr to 5760x1080 on the external monitors
[16:16] <xbfrog> but i have no expertise with xrandr
[16:17] <xbfrog> jelly: this is a cli setting and i hated it when i had windows, and terminal isnt convincing me
[16:18] <xbfrog> so...is this screen setting even possible with xrandr?
[16:18] <xbfrog> need help
[16:19] <xbfrog> Jelly: if not here, where would i go for help?
[16:25] <jelly> xbfrog, do you have multiple monitors connected right now?  pastebin the output of "xrandr -q"
[16:26] <jelly> xbfrog, dunno, this seems the optimal channel for end user issues in ubuntu, if it's too quiet you can try and see whether ##linux is more active
[16:27] <jelly> xbfrog, did the "maximize" thing make any difference?
[16:27] <jelly> (did you try Alt-Space then that, at all)
[16:27] <xbfrog> yes but it takes the whole 3 monitor desktop
[16:27] <jelly> ah, that's unusual
[16:28] <xbfrog> ok thanks for the response :) i'm getting help now
[16:28] <jelly> it means your graphic driver is set up so that the app thinks there's only one huge output screen
[16:29]  * jelly afk
[16:48] <hexo_> hello, is there anyone who understands KSM? i dont get why ksmtuned always disables ksm, and i'd love to ask how to reconfigure it properly. (yes i've googled for a few hours first) how to force it (if it makes sense) to merge more pages?
[17:17] <ace_me> Sad :( It was 20 years ago when I was in charge of a network based on 20 red hat systems in a Internet cafe. The clients were coming on that P1 PC's and were clicking on netscape communicator to browse the internet. An "loading" gif was shown on their NC launch for 1-2 seconds than the mouse cursor was shown again, and they click again to the icon in order to launch the expected program. Again 2-3 seconds and a normal cursor. Of course the c
[17:17] <ace_me> sometimes after 2-3 minutes of clicks, 10-20 windows with desired program were shown. It was , as I've said a P1 computer 333 Mhz. Nowadays we have 2.x Ghz computers 4-24 GB of RAM (10x-40x more ram) faster HDDS, but UBUNTU 20.04 is saying the same story on a powerfull i7 PC. Incredible stubborn team.
[17:17] <xbfrog> Jelly: yes its running thru a matrox triplehead2go
[17:18] <ace_me> There is really no solution to keep a loading icon over a launched program with a small window (lik in windows) showing everyone that a program will soon fill that window ... or a better option ???   ? ? ?
[17:19] <ace_me> Nobody feels the same as I do regarding this bad experience on starting some programs in some circumstances ?
[17:19] <xbfrog> jelly: matrox supports the higher resolution of 5760x1080 but says it will need displayport
[17:20] <xbfrog> Jelly: but i'm reading there is virtually no difference between displayport and hdmi. dp is used for projectors
[17:43] <friv> my ubuntu partition has become unbootable seemingly out of the blue. what should I do?
[17:45] <tomreyn> remain connected to irc
[18:01] <friv> I can only boot ubuntu in recovery mode (all of a sudden ?). Search implies it might be a graphics card driver issue so I tried to switch to nvidia driver but its telling me I have broken packages
[18:02] <pavlos> friv: "sudo apt install -f" (to fix broken pkgs
[18:02] <tomreyn> friv: share some commands you ran, output, error messages, your ubuntu version, architecture.
[18:03] <friv> 1 not fully installed or removed
[18:03] <tomreyn> and please remain connected for >2 minnutes after asking a question ;)
[18:04] <tomreyn> partial output is insufficient. full comannds and full outputs can help. use a pastebin.
[18:05] <friv> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3RKfQNJx3Y/
[18:06] <tomreyn> nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
[18:07] <tomreyn> friv: ^ this gathers version info and some configuration basics
[18:07] <friv> its there
[18:07] <friv> https://termbin.com/8290
[18:08] <tomreyn> sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[18:08] <tomreyn> gathers info on your apt configration and package system state
[18:09] <friv> thanks anyway
[18:11] <tomreyn> you can run these commands in ( ... ) locally without sharing the output, if you'd like to see what they do
[18:12] <tomreyn> -s to apt-get simulates, doe snot apply any changes
[18:14] <tomreyn> friv: did you find a better solution then?
[18:37] <SteelRose> hi all!
[18:37] <SteelRose> a little help here...
[18:38] <tomreyn> !ask
[18:38] <SteelRose> could you guys tell me whether Ubuntu has a similiar file to /etc/init.d/functions (RPM: initscripts)  in CentOS?
[18:40] <tomreyn> supported ubuntu releases use systemd for service management
[18:41] <tomreyn> if you can tell what you're trying to achieve, and on which ubuntu release, providing a better answer may be possible.
[18:45] <SteelRose> tomreyn, I know... so does CentOS 8... but that functions file contains, well, some nice functions which you can use to print [ OK ] or [ ERROR ] when the return code of a command either succeeds or fails... which is pretty cool and saves me coding an extra function :-)
[18:46] <SteelRose> i.e....  Hacking into the Pentagon   [ OK ]
[18:46] <SteelRose> surely you know what I mean
[18:47] <tomreyn> yes, you want to Go directly to Jail. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200
[18:47] <SteelRose> tomreyn, LOL
[18:48] <tomreyn> i guess systemd must have something for this as well, but i'm not sure how you 'd do this. i guess you probably just define a service.
[18:48] <tomreyn> *service unit
[18:52] <SteelRose> https://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Find-and-Fix-Linux-Boot-Issues.png  this shows what I mean...
[18:52] <SteelRose> see the OK, FAILED, etc?
[18:53] <tomreyn> yes, those are systemd messages about success and failure of bringing up system service units
[18:54] <pavlos> SteelRose: are these called run level control functions ?
[18:54] <tomreyn> you get to see those if you boot without "quiet"
[18:54] <tomreyn> and without "splash", too
[18:55] <SteelRose> OK, on CentOS you can use them by sourcing /etc/iinit.d/functions ... even when systemd is controlling everything
[18:55] <SteelRose> pavlos, I guess so
[18:55] <SteelRose> BRB - I'll read you later
[18:57] <pavlos> SteelRose: https://bash.cyberciti.biz/guide//etc/init.d/functions
[18:58] <pavlos> SteelRose: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.4/scripts/apds02.html
[18:59] <jwhitmore> Don't know what update applied over the last few days, but Pulseview has stopped working for me: pulseview: symbol lookup error: /tmp/.mount_PulseVxsUxjR/usr/lib/libsigrok.so.4: undefined symbol: libusb_get_version
[19:00] <jwhitmore> Have libusb-dev installed so not sure what has changed
[19:00] <tomreyn> !info pulseview
[19:01] <tomreyn> this?
[19:01] <jwhitmore> yes that's the one
[19:01] <TJ-> jwhitmore: is that a snap or a regular package installed from the archives?
[19:08] <jwhitmore> I have been using the regular package installed from the repo with apt-get install pulseview up till now. But when I hit this problem an hour ago I downloaded the app image from pulse view to try that and got the same error. I've not installed the snap package
[19:10] <TJ-> jwhitmore: ok; the reason I asked was the reported path would not be the archive package (/tmp/.mount_PulseVxsUxjR/))
[19:11] <TJ-> jwhitmore: which Ubuntu release are you using? I ask since 20.04 has libusb 0.1-4 and 1.0-0
[19:12] <jwhitmore> 20.04
[19:14] <TJ-> jwhitmore: so that symbol isn't in 0.1-4 but is in 1.0-0 so I'm guessing the package is linking the wrong version
[19:15] <TJ-> jwhitmore: compare: " ls -l /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-* "
[19:17] <TJ-> tomreyn: have you seen any reports on 20.04 of the touchpad movement being lost after S3 resume (but button presses continue to work) ?
[19:18] <tomreyn> TJ-: i remember a recent report about "touchpad not working", but that was about all the info provided,a nd i didn't follow up. and a single report only.
[19:19] <TJ-> tomreyn: thanks. I've experienced it several times recently including right now. I've a thinkpad so the nipple still works for movement although difficult to control precisely. Not found any clues so far as to why
[19:19] <jwhitmore> I have two so should probably remove one. Probably the later? /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4 -> libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4     /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-1.0.so -> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-1.0.so.0.2.0
[19:20] <tomreyn> TJ-: might it need a firmware update, which could be distributed seperately and be windows-only? i know, this should happen out of the blue.
[19:20] <TJ-> jwhitmore: 1.0.so is the one that DOES contain the symbol - but it isn't clear why we have both, or why your software is linking the older version and failing when it was OK earlier
[19:21] <TJ-> tomreyn: doubt it - I tend to think this is an Xorg issue, since a display-manager restart wil solve it
[19:21] <TJ-> tomreyn: and the device buttons are working - just no movement reported
[19:22] <tomreyn> hmm, ok, i'll be of no use there.
[19:22] <jwhitmore> TJ-, thanks, I assumed that a recent update had caused it. I'll try remove 0.1.4
[19:23] <TJ-> tomreyn: we have several identical models though I'm the only one that stresses mine, so only mine has so far experienced it. I tend to suspend/resume frequently as well
[19:24] <tomreyn> i use a mouse whenever possible
[19:25] <tomreyn> (or just keyboard)
[19:26] <TJ-> jwhitmore: since pulseview doesn't directly depend on libusb, I'd guess this is caused by another library that pulseview depends on and that in turn requires libusb
[19:26] <TJ-> tomreyn: so do I normally but I'm in bed now :)
[19:27] <TJ-> jwhitmore: you could check the recent package installation history in /var/log/apt/history.log  - look at the dates immediately before the problem started
[19:32] <TJ-> jwhitmore: this command might help you find packages with recent update timestamps whose changelogs mention libusb: " find /usr/share/doc -type f -name changelog.Debian.gz -exec zgrep -ln libusb {} \; | while read f; do ls -l $f; done "
[19:35] <jwhitmore> TJ-, thanks I'll try figure out some info on this
[19:38] <TJ-> jwhitmore: I can't think why but on the face of it it would appear that some library has *lowered* the version of libusb it depends on. This command will show you the names of all packages that depend on the 0.1-4 package: " apt-cache rdepends libusb-0.1-4 "
[19:45] <jwhitmore> TJ-, thanks for your help you'll have to leave it with me till I muddle though what's happened
[19:51] <SteelRose> pavlos, thanks for the links. Yes. I know those ones. My question was: where are they located in Ubuntu?
[19:58] <shaman_king> is ubuntu user friendly ?
[19:58] <tomreyn> SteelRose: for all i can tell, those are (or were?) specific to rpm land and don't exist on ubuntu, at least no more (maybe variants existed in the distant past)
[19:59] <tomreyn> !discuss | shaman_king
[19:59] <tatertots> shaman_king: each human has their own unique definition of easy or hard
[19:59] <tomreyn> they're just trolling anyways
[19:59] <SteelRose> tomreyn, thanks for the clarification mate!
[19:59] <tomreyn> SteelRose: you're welcome
[20:01] <grimpo> It doesn't look like ufw supports the creation / management of groups of firewall rules which can be enabled / disabled independently of each other... is there any easy tool for that or would I have to interact with iptables directly?
[20:03] <tatertots> grimpo: have you got experience using "groups of rules" in ANY GNU/Linux distribution?
[20:03] <pavlos> grimpo: have you tried gufw? you can create profiles with diff rules for each profile (if that helps)
[20:06] <grimpo> pavlos: neat - does the G stand for GNOME? unfortunately this is a headless environment.
[20:07] <grimpo> tatertots: I have a vague recollection of maintaining chains under iptables a long time ago.
[20:08] <pavlos> grimpo: not sure what G stands for (probably graphical) but it needs gui
[20:17] <whizter> is there any way to set a standard sound output-device? every time i reboot it sets my usb-headset as output-device, and i have to change that manually to s/pdif, which i want to use normally.
[20:20] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/71863/how-to-change-pulseaudio-sink-with-pacmd-set-default-sink-during-playback
[20:24] <whizter> tomreyn, thanks, i hope 'pacmd set-default-sink 2' did it. have to reboot to check if that worked.
[20:42] <tomreyn> whizter: i think this isn't permanent, but you could probably add it to an init file such as .bash_profile
[20:42] <tomreyn> or you could configure it permanently with an alsa configuration file.
[20:46] <whizter> tomreyn: thanks, i'll test that tomorrow, it's not that important for me that i'd do a reboot now. just a little annoying :)
[20:47] <TJ-> I think the local user config saves the Pulseaudio default device config
[21:14] <IoannisJVM> Hi friends,i'm trying to dual boot a Windoews laptop and install ubuntu 20.04 LTS but when i'm facing an issue about Intel RST
[21:14] <IoannisJVM> i didn't manage to configure that out
[21:15] <IoannisJVM> It says that i need to disable the RST
[21:15] <oerheks> i think it is an UEFI thing, RST
[21:15] <oerheks> !uefi
[21:15] <oerheks> yes.
[21:19] <TheWild> hello
[21:20] <RingtailedFox> hi
[21:20] <TheWild> Update from 18.04 to 20.04 was long but ended without major problems.
[21:20] <TheWild> I have some unpolished corners though... and guess what? I'm going to check one more setting and will get back
[21:25] <TheWild> back
[21:26] <TheWild> i3 on this OS, updated from 18.04 to 20.04 doesn't look as good as i3 installed on office computer with Ubuntu 20.04 just installed.
[21:28] <TheWild> this is the worst at the moment: https://pasteboard.co/JuibGwL.png
[21:28] <TheWild> something loads that light skin and while terminal is black, the scroll bars are light-gray. Menu is light-gray too when I enable it.
[21:30] <Master666> hi guys, can someone help me to install to on Ubuntu 12.04
[21:30] <TJ-> TheWild: same with a fresh new user account too? or just your regular account?
[21:30] <Master666> it is 32 bit
[21:31] <TheWild> TJ-: I'll try
[21:31] <TheWild> (I'm the only user on this computer)
[21:31] <TJ-> TheWild: it may be caused by inherited config
[21:32] <kxsl> im trying to use ubuntu 20.04 on a raspberry pi. I've already logged in and installed mate-desktop. i want to use the CLI to do a few more things, so I switch to one of the virtual terminals with Ctrl+Alt+F2, but how do you switch back to the mate login? It doesn't seem to be anywhere F1-F12
[21:32] <matsaman> kxsl: +F7, usually
[21:32] <matsaman> kxsl: you might be able to use the 'chvt' command, too
[21:33] <oerheks> Master666, no, 12.04 is EOL, no suppport
[21:33] <kxsl> matsaman, no it's not there and I can't type anything. i can't switch to any other terminal once I switch away from the one on F2
[21:33] <oerheks> such machines without huge bugfixes should not be connected to the internet.
 Hi Sir, so Tor won't work?
[21:34] <matsaman> kxsl: you can't type anything? Well that's your primary problem, then
[21:34] <matsaman> kxsl: can you ssh in?
[21:34] <kxsl> I'm not sure, but I can try once I get it booted again
[21:35] <TJ-> kxsl: wired or wireless keyboard?
[21:36] <oerheks> Master666, tor? no, as 12.04 is End Of Life.
[21:36] <oerheks> us a supported version, 16.04/18.04
[21:37] <kxsl> matsaman, wireless keyboard. I can't ssh in, it says connection refused
[21:37] <TheWild> TJ-: new account is even worse
[21:37] <oerheks> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04/release/ gives 32 bit.
[21:37] <TheWild> The "system default" colors for terminal are black text on white background.
[21:37] <matsaman> kxsl: well then you might have to reboot
[21:38] <TJ-> TheWild: so something to do with (lack of) default theme possibly?
[21:38] <kxsl> matsaman, I've been doing that. I can't switch to any working terminal or type anything in the one I'm on
[21:39] <TJ-> kxsl: check the logs after it reboots
[21:39] <matsaman> kxsl: after reboot you can't?
[21:39] <TheWild> TJ-: I have no clue now whether some service loads the light theme now, or it was loading dark theme back then and now it's missng
[21:40] <Master666> oerheks my version is not 12.04
[21:40] <Master666> Description:	Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS
[21:40] <Master666> Release:	20.04
[21:40] <Master666> Codename:	focal
[21:40] <kxsl> how? what logs to look at for this?
[21:40] <TheWild> oh wait, I think I got a clue
[21:41] <Master666> It has to do with expired ring signature
[21:41] <Master666> When installing tor
[21:42] <TJ-> kxsl: first stop would be look at the last boot log, at its end before it rebooted. "journalctl -b -1 -n 250" will show the last 250 lines of the previous sesion... you may need to increase that number to go back and find clues, or you can ommit the -n 250 entirely and review the entire session log
[21:43] <Maik> Master666: you said you have 12.04 32bit installed
[21:44] <Master666> Ok I made a mistake Maik it is Description:	Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS
[21:44] <Master666> Release:	20.04
[21:44] <Master666> Codename:	focal
[21:44] <kxsl> TJ-, ok, I don't see any errors in that. just info messages from gdm and systemd
[21:44] <TJ-> kxsl: is the keyboard bluetooth?
[21:44] <kxsl> TJ-, no
[21:44] <TJ-> kxsl: in that log do you see shutdown messages or does it abruptly stop since you killed the powe?
[21:45] <TJ-> kxsl: so a wireless USB dongle ?
[21:45] <kxsl> TJ-, right, it just stops. i can't get it to respond at all once i switch away from F2. pulling the plug is the only thing to do
[21:46] <TheWild> didn't make it :/
[21:46] <Master666> Maik I am getting a message expired Ring Signature all the time when installing
[21:46] <Maik> Master666: there are many users having the same issues with installing Tor lately. Best to search for reports on that matter. I don't use it so i can't help you with that.
[21:46] <Maik> info should be out there on the web
[21:47] <TJ-> kxsl: so now you have to determine if the RasPi is simply freezing. You could do that by causing it to fail again and noting the EXACT time to the second. Then reboot, examine the log again, and see if there are log entries after the time you noted... and how long logging continues. If the timestamps don't carry on much after the noted time it might indicate the RasPi froze up
[21:54] <ash_worksi> does ^[[D communicate something other than simply "left arrow" ?
[21:55] <matsaman> not sure it communicates that
[21:55] <ash_worksi> like I kind of wanted to jot down some shortcut keys; I generally use ^ for "ctrl+" (eg: ^a)
[21:55] <ash_worksi> if I use ctrl+v in my terminal, I can get raw codes, for example ^[ = escape
[21:56] <ash_worksi> I generally would have to perform some kind of escape-key acrobatics if I were going to write colors in vim for example
[21:56] <matsaman> to what end
[21:56] <ash_worksi> if I use ctrl+v and then press the left arrow, it prints ^[[D
[21:57] <ash_worksi> so I wondered, does ^[[D mean = "escape" + {something else} ?
[21:57] <ash_worksi> matsaman: it's just easier to annotate when I'm trying write some things down
[21:57] <matsaman> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/222901/caret-square-bracket-square-bracket-a-a-what-does-it-mean
[21:58] <ash_worksi> interesting
[21:58] <ash_worksi> thanks matsaman
[21:59] <oerheks> ubuntu suggests to use the tor package from their site, or follow this page to fix the key https://itsfoss.com/install-tar-browser-linux/
[21:59] <oerheks> gpg --homedir "$HOME/.local/share/torbrowser/gnupg_homedir" --refresh-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com
[21:59] <oerheks> but this does not work for the snap version
[21:59] <ash_worksi> I was getting results for people who have problems with CSI printing instead of doing what they expect
[21:59] <ash_worksi> and indeed, esc + [ + shift-d = move left
[22:01] <ash_worksi> however, ctrl + left arrow => jump back a word, but ctrl + (esc, [, shift-d) does not
[22:15] <kxsl> i just screwed up my raspberry pi shrinking /. is there a special way to do this? you can't just use parted to resize?
[22:16] <oerheks> growing a partition can be done from within the system, shrinking only with the live iso.
[22:16] <TJ-> kxsl: parted doesn't deal with the file-system inside the partition
[22:17] <kxsl> TJ-, are you sure? I thought it did. That's the whole point of using it
[22:20] <TJ-> kxsl: no, the 'part' in parted is a big clue. read its man-page, for "resizepart"
[22:21] <kxsl> so what is good for resizing a partition AND filesystem. different tools doing only one isn't useful, especially if they don't cooperate
[22:22] <TJ-> the GUI tool gparted wraps all the functionality
[22:22] <TJ-> which is totally different to the CLI tool parted!
[22:24] <TJ-> kxsl: this is why using LVM can be such a pleasure - it handles all this and much more elegantly
[22:24] <kxsl> i really want to use a cli program here. restoring the image, updating it, and installing a gui is going to take literally hours
[22:25] <kxsl> TJ-, i'm trying to use a raspberry pi. it's just an image written to a SD card, then booted. there is no installer and no provision for customizing how it's set up
[22:25] <TJ-> kxsl: all you need do is move the SD-card to a PC and use gparted from there to fix the partitioning - presumably all that is needed is to make the partition the maximum size once again?
[22:26] <TJ-> kxsl: the Rasbian images have an auto-expand operation on first boot. Does the Ubuntu image do the same?
[22:26] <TJ-> sorry, no longer Raspbian... RasPi OS :)
[22:28] <kxsl> yeah, / takes up the entire card. no way to make another partition to use encryption or a different filesystem
[22:28] <kxsl> but you're right about using gparted on another computer, i can do that
[22:30] <TJ-> kxsl: in the #raspberrypi channel the sole Ubuntu developer hangs out; I think his nick is waveform or similar. Might be worth asking for advice from him.
[22:31] <kxsl> TJ-, thanks, I'll check it out
[22:33] <TJ-> kxsl: I usually write my own images, and use LVM always. That way I only need to allocate minimal space to the required file-systems initially and can expand them on-line as needed, as well as adding others, some ephemeral, some for experiments, etc.
[22:33] <TJ-> kxsl: e.g. "{lvreduce | lvextend} --resizefs ... "
[22:35] <Richard_Cavell> TJ-, I have another question from yesterday
[22:35] <Richard_Cavell> I have found that in order to boot the Ubuntu live DVD well, I need to add pnpbios=off to my boot options.
[22:35] <Richard_Cavell> If I don't add that, I get a warning telling me to add it.
[22:36] <Richard_Cavell> Could that possibly be the cause of my disappearing hard disk?
[22:36] <Richard_Cavell> (Ubuntu does not think that I have an internal hard disk, even though I do)
[22:38] <xbfrog> i'm looking for information. i'm wanting to use a resolution of 5760x1080. i know that Ubuntu only goes as high as 3072x768. My matrox triplehead2go  supports this higher resolution. Can the software be changed? and by who? Who would i contact to see if there is any possiblity to up the resolution that Ubuntu 20.04 uses? Is this a Ubuntu issue or a limitation of the graphics driver?
[22:42] <TJ-> Richard_Cavell: pnpbios - possibly yes, that could cause it
[22:47] <xbfrog> ok apparently its a limitation of Ubuntu
[23:08] <Master666> Hi Guys please who else is having problems intalling tor on Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS 32 bit?
[23:09] <Master666> Problem is with ring signatures
[23:11] <tieinv> Users of the i386 architecture will not be presented with an upgrade to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Support for i386 as a host architecture was dropped in 19.10.
[23:13] <Richard_Cavell> I don't think there's any such thing as 20.04 32 bit
[23:14] <oerheks> Master666, from tor? read back, i gave an url and solution,, maybe there is no 32 bit tor browser?
[23:17] <Master666> Hi Richard Cavell, I type lsb_release -a Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS Release:	20.04 Codename:	focal
[23:18] <Richard_Cavell> try uname -a
[23:18] <Master666> How do I check if my Ubuntu is 32 or 64 bit Richard?
[23:18] <pavlos> Master666: type uname -a
[23:19] <genii> It will be 64bit
[23:19] <genii> ..because there is no 32bit version of Focal
[23:20] <pavlos> Master666: 5.4.0-48-generic #52~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 10 12:50:22 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux <------------ those x86_64 mean 64bit
[23:22] <jeremy31> pavlos: yes, 64 bit
[23:33] <cluelessperson> hrm, ubuntu is feeling extremely laggy
[23:33] <cluelessperson> seems whenever I type or change the screen it slows down
[23:34] <signofzeta> i have a similar issue.  are you running your screens in fractional scaling mode?  if I turn that off, I have to squint, but things are noticeably faster (AMD Radeon RX480).
[23:34] <signofzeta> i mean, with my hardware, it's not an issue, but it is a little noticeable
[23:37] <cluelessperson> signofzeta, No.  It was perfect up until like yesterday?
[23:37] <cluelessperson> it's sooooooo slow
[23:37] <signofzeta> oh, then my issue must be separate.  it doesn't bother me, though.
[23:37] <cluelessperson> it's torture waiting for every mouse click to load a menu or just typing to take a second to load the text
[23:38] <oerheks> interesting what hardware specs?
[23:38] <Master666> pavlos this is what I got 5.4.0-48-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 10 10:58:49 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:39] <pavlos> Master666: you have 64 bit
[23:39] <cluelessperson> Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga 4th Gen, 8GB ram, 4K screen - 5.4.0-48-lowlatency #52-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT
[23:40] <Master666> pavlos yes you are right so how do I install tor because I keep on getting error with ring signature expired
[23:40] <cluelessperson> literally takes 4 seconds to open a context menu when I click in the menu bar.
[23:40] <pavlos> Master666: I dont use tor
[23:41] <cluelessperson> I'm getting gnome-shell js errors
[23:41] <oerheks> cluelessperson, did you hit low power mode/normal/high ? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Yoga_(Gen_4)#Hidden_Fn-Keys
[23:43] <Master666> Is anyone here using Tor on Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS 64 bit?
[23:43] <oerheks> should i gave my answer 3 times, Master666 ???  ubuntu suggests to use the tor package from their site, or follow this page to fix the key https://itsfoss.com/install-tar-browser-linux/
[23:43] <oerheks> gpg --homedir "$HOME/.local/share/torbrowser/gnupg_homedir" --refresh-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com
[23:43] <oerheks> but this does not work for the outdated snap version
[23:44] <cluelessperson> oerheks, I don't think so, but I'm looking into power modes now
[23:44] <cluelessperson> brb, restarting after firmware update
[23:45] <signofzeta> @Master666: I am.  I'm connected to Freenode over Tor.  Working great.
[23:45] <signofzeta> then again, I'm also using the Tor Project's PPA
[23:46] <cluelessperson> everything's instant after restarting
[23:47] <oerheks> cluelessperson, shocking :-P
[23:48] <Master666> ok signofzeta how do I install this? do I use terminal or search software centre?
[23:48] <signofzeta> Master666, you'd need to use the terminal.  the version in Ubuntu's repos is a little old.  hold on, I'll get you a link.
[23:48] <cluelessperson> oerheks, yeah, but it's unclear what the problem is or how to find it
[23:49] <signofzeta> Master666:  directions included here: https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[23:50] <signofzeta> add that PPA, apt update, and apt install like it says.
[23:50] <Master666> Ok signofzeta let me try this
[23:51] <Bashing-om> Master666: Will want to "purge" the present tor install .
[23:52] <signofzeta> I updated Ubuntu's Tor with Tor's Tor and it was fine, but a purge certainly wouldn't hurt