[01:48] <swift110> sup
 @chak, yes pantheon is among the best for non tinkerers, pretty understandable
 @chak, Idk, auto tiling is something that seems pretty useful for certain people but I like doing it manually
[03:57] <nieminen> Hello! Can someone help me with an odd issue? Just installed fresh Kubuntu, and I've got probably a weird setup, where I have two HD monitors, and two 2K monitors, which may contribute to the issue.
[03:57] <nieminen> When hovering over certain windows/text/text-inputs, my cursor jumps to about 3x the size it should be.
[03:58] <nieminen> Seems fine over system title bars
 @nieminen, Did you apply any accessibility features?
[04:04] <nieminen> Nope, totally fresh. Installed, ran updates, restarted, and set up my monitor condfiguration.
[04:04] <nieminen> I'll check and see if any are active though
 Cool
[04:04] <nieminen> Nothing seems apparent
[04:05] <nieminen> Saw one Stack Exchange post that mentioned replacing the cursor pack with one that only contains a single resolution. I'd rather not unless it's my only option.
[04:08] <nieminen> Running MSI GTX 1660. According to the driver manager, I'm on the open source driver.
[04:10] <nieminen> https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/241449
[04:11] <nieminen> This answer suggests the auto login is part of the issue. I'll switch that and see if it makes a difference.
[04:12] <Voidablazer> is kde plasma usable with wayland yet?
[04:12] -Voidablazer:#kubuntu- ?
[04:40] <keithzg-M> Voidablazer: I've found it so on my laptop. In fact as of 20.04, mysteriously Xorg no longer works right there, but Wayland *does*!
[04:40] <keithzg-M> This causes some issues because Xorg 100% doesn't work and unfortunately SDDM still opens in Xorg, although it supports choosing Wayland sessions. So I had to go with another DM. But that was the biggest issue I've noticed.
 @nieminen, Ok then it must be a bug.
 Try changing cursor.
 @nieminen, Possible
[04:43]  * keithzg-M had thought `do-release-upgarde -d` failing meant the upgrade was over . . . nope the sources are already switched over, okay, lets do this then :D
 20.10 beta is too unstable...
[05:04] <keithzg-M> GalantGTR: Oh I have multiple other computers here at home, and even a dual-boot setup on the machine in question; unstable isn't a big concern for me!
 Try to do anything, crashed the desktop, than the settings program...it's to early to use it as a beta. … It's an alfa version!
 @keithzg-M, I have 2OS boot too.,Win10 and KUbuntu...but it's the first time that KUbuntu beta is so bad pre-released
[05:10] <keithzg-M> GalantGTR: Well when you consider the release cadence it makes some sense; the last release was the LTS, a lot of the stuff in the *buntu repos for 20.10 is all the stuff that was held up because it wasn't necessarily tested and stable enough yet!
 @keithzg-M, I had an lts 20.04 and do the upgrade to 20.10 beta...that was to bad... I'm really sad that this time is crashed 1/3 off all apps and around 25% of all process
 I send a 1000yh reports...but I'm not sure that they can fixed all problems until 24.10
[05:14] <keithzg-M> If a lot of things are crashing, it's quite possible there's some single central issue.
 @keithzg-M, I'm going to uo-2-date it everyday...but the problem that discover crashed...and I can't change the settings of updater source...
[05:18] <keithzg-M> GalantGTR: No need to use Discover, just use `apt` from the terminal :)
 Before I could choose between release and lts...now it's not possible
 How to change that in terminal?
[05:19] <keithzg-M> Uhhh, you can't because that's not something that can be changed.
[05:19] <keithzg-M> That is to say: you've already upgraded past 20.04, which is the last LTS release.
[05:20] <keithzg-M> You could do the very messy thing and change your sources in /etc/apt/sources.list to be focal rather than groovy, then force reinstallation of things manually.
[05:20] <keithzg-M> But downgrading isn't really supported.
 I was on 20.04lts...than upgrade to 20.10 beta :((
[05:21] <keithzg-M> Yeah, and 20.10 is not an LTS, thus Discover wouldn't give you the option to only upgrade to LTS releases. Next LTS would be 22.04.
 I'm waiting for a release...than it's possible to run the discover I think
 22.04?
[05:22] <keithzg-M> Maybe, it won't just magically fix when there's a release though.
[05:22] <keithzg-M> Yeah, 22.04 is the next LTS, the LTS releases come out every 2 years.
 Oh year every 2 years. U r right
 Thx...I will try to reinstall 20.04 lts....if it's not possiy to downgrade
[05:24] <keithzg-M> Well, it's possible! Just not officially supported ;)
[05:25] <keithzg-M> If the stars align it might even be as simple as changing every instance of groovy to focal in /etc/apt/sources.list and then running `sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop^` or such
[05:25] <keithzg-M> Chaos may ensure, however ;)
[05:29] <keithzg-M> s/ensure/ensue (chaos is not ensured, although it is also not unlikely, hah)
[06:42] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:15] <Voidablazer> do you suggest wayland with kde?
 If I were you I would still wait a little bit. There has been a lot of progress with wayland on KDE recently but not all of it has found its way to Kubuntu yet and there is still a bunch of bugs. However if you want to try it it's definitely usable just not quite stable. If I were you I would wait at least until 21.04 but probably until 21.10 and then it might be kind of stable
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:20] <floown> Hello. I search a smarcontrol packet adapted to Plasma. Doest exist?
[12:21] <floown> I have read a tutorial with gsmarcontrol
[12:22] <floown> g is for Gnome, I suppose?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> floown, /var/lib/smartmontools/ perjaps
[12:27] <BluesKaj> perhaps even
[13:13] <user|31610> hello everybody !
[13:13] <user|31610> I have Kubuntu 20.04 and have some problems
[13:14] <BluesKaj> user|31610, just ask your question
[13:15] <user|31610> I don't know how I hade an error and crash KDE plasma
[13:15] <user|31610> now I can run latte dock
[13:16] <user|31610> like impossible to reinstall proprely
[13:16] <user|31610> I don't know if the best way is just to reinstall kubuntu ?
[13:16] <user|31610> I have a / and /home partition
[13:18] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu release?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> 20.04 ok
[13:19] <BluesKaj> have you updated and upgraded your packages lately?
[13:21] <user|31610> I tried to update all yes, but changed nothing
[13:21] <BluesKaj> not just update, but also upgrade
[13:24] <user|31610> With a sudo apt upgrade ?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:25] <user|31610> yes I dis that too
[13:26] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:27] <BluesKaj> look in /var/log/syslog for errors
[13:28] <user|31610> I'm on Windows right now i need to reboot, It's possible to come back directly to this forum ?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> yes, the kubuntu default irc client is Konversation
[13:30] <user|31610> I'll come back in 1min then
[13:34] <user|35317> I'm back
[13:35] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:35] <user|35317> I had bug with the interface too, like don't see widget, app or weird colors
[13:36] <BluesKaj> which interface?
[13:37] <user|35317> Kde plasma
[13:38] <BluesKaj> do you have the default panel?
[13:38] <user|35317> that mean ?
[13:38] <user|35317> But i think yes
[13:39] <BluesKaj> task manager etc
[13:40] <user|35317> yes
[13:43] <user|35317> I try to reset the panel too
[13:44] <BluesKaj> what kind of gpu/graphics ?
[13:44] <user|35317> intel core with a nvidia graphics
[13:45] <user|35317> had to install nvidia driver afterwards
[13:48] <BluesKaj> are you running in legacy bios mode or uefi?
[13:49] <user|35317> I think uefi, how can I be sure ?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> run df -h in the terminal and look for /boot/efi
[13:53] <user|35317> yes it's write /boot/efi
[13:53] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:54] <BluesKaj> was just making sure that your computer isn't too old to handle graphics like the latte dock thing
[13:55] <user|35317> It's a good machine I won't have problems like that
[14:00] <BluesKaj> ok now Open the KDE Application Launcher (button at the far left end of the Kicker --aka KDE Panel) and click the Applications tab at the bottom and then click Utilities. You should see an entry labeled Dock
[14:05] <user|35317> I have nothing called Dock
[14:05] <user|35317> but I have the Latte widget
[14:07] <BluesKaj> it should show latte dock
[14:09] <BluesKaj> brb
[14:11] <user|35317> It open a very thin dock, but not the same settings,etc
[14:12] <BluesKaj> well it worked here,.i just removed it
[14:13] <user|35317> It worked the first time i install it..
[14:13] <user|35317> until I had my KDE issue
[14:14] <BluesKaj> perhaps you could right click on the panel and adjust the height
 @GalantGTR, That should be fixed in 20.10 now. May still crash until the system is rebooted or some cache somewhere clears.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> @RikMills, yeah I'm using GG and have no issues with the dock
[14:17] <user|35317> I tried
[14:17] <user|35317> doesn't work
[14:17] <BluesKaj> but I prefer the icons only taskbar instead
[14:18] <user|35317> That look nice and the fact it appear on top of app when you're close is nice
[14:20] <BluesKaj> that zoomt effect doesn't do much for me, but that's my taste
[14:20] <BluesKaj> zoomy
[14:22] <user|35317> Yes but it's not normal it doesn't work like the first time when i de/install it now
 @RikMills, Seems another patch might be needed
[14:48] <user|56501> Still no answer for why latte insn't working ?
 @GalantGTR I have just uploaded a fix for discover settings page crash to 20.10. Hopefully that will be available to test in a few hrs
[15:14] <IrcsomeBot1> . was added by: .
[15:30] <bittin-M> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqJoytkNrt8
[15:53] <user|698> Heyy
[15:54] <user|698> I have some issues with kubuntu 20.04 and I want to reinstall I like you can with Ubuntu
[15:55] <user|698> But after I restart with the USB boot and select download, I have the same procedure and they ask me the partitions of the disk
[15:56] <user|698> Do I need to format something? Just install like that? The aim is not to lose data
[15:56] <user|698> Thanks for your help I found nothing :)
[16:00] <diogenes_> user|698, 'I restart with the USB boot and select download'?
[16:32] <steveire> Is it possible to upgrade a 18.10 system anymore?
[16:32] <steveire> `sudo do-release-upgrade` doesn't work.
 Hello. What is the error message ?
[16:34] <Aristide> i'm « Michel labrie » its easier for me on Quassel xD So, steveire, what is error message (if error message appear) ?
[16:34] <steveire> `An upgrade from 'cosmic' to 'focal' is not supported with this tool. `
[16:35] <steveire> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sYcVhcjDg2/
[16:35] <steveire> Is there some other way? Just hack my sources.list?
[16:35] <steveire> I think that's what I used to do years ago.
[16:37] <Aristide> Ok. I have check. Repository has been deleted (end of life since 2019). Maybe with replace all entrys in source files (manually replace cosmic to focal), and update + dist-upgrade and pray for work =)
[16:37] <Aristide> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/590490/can-not-upgrade-ubuntu-18-10-to-higher-version
[16:39] <steveire> https://nelsonslog.wordpress.com/2020/02/21/upgrading-from-an-unsupported-ubuntu/
[16:43] <Aristide> steveire: You can try. But prepare a USB Key for reinstall from scratch if needed ^^
[16:56] <steveire> Yes, I will. The blog approach didn't work for me, so I'm just hacking sources.list.
[19:14] <user|60992> How can I change the volume control applet, to an applet from XFCE (xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin)
 @Aristide, Maybe manually adding focal fossa repository links to update manager will work. Do delete old version repository links.
[22:54] <IrcsomeBot1> Sean Cano was added by: Sean Cano