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callmepkgood morning00:13
jameshhi callmepk 01:27
dufluHi callmepk and jamesh 01:28
callmepkhey jamesh duflu 01:49
jameshduflu: for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1897224, this really does look like something to fix in Mutter01:49
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1897224 in snapd (Ubuntu) "[snap] chromium won't start on Xwayland in Ubuntu 20.10: Unable to open X display" [High,Confirmed]01:49
duflujamesh, yeah I already got the bug mail. I don't understand that code (yet) so it might be best for you to propose a revert if you can explain it01:50
jameshduflu: my understanding is that with the autoload logic, Mutter bound two sockets and would only start Xwayland when someone tried to connect.  At which point it would pass the file descriptors for the listening sockets to Xwayland.01:51
jameshHowever it was only polling the abstract namespace socket, so ignored attempts to connect to the non-abstract socket01:52
jameshduflu: I've filed https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/145402:39
dufluCool02:40
jibelGood morning04:58
jameshmorning jibel 05:07
jibelHi jamesh 05:13
dufluMorning jibel 05:18
jibelmorning duflu 05:20
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:36
ricotzhey oSoMoN 06:49
dufluMorning oSoMoN and ricotz 06:55
didrocksgood morning07:08
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dufluMorning didrocks 07:16
didrockshey duflu 07:20
Laneyyo08:02
duflu(elbow bump) Laney08:03
seb128goood morning desktopers08:06
dufluHi seb128 08:07
seb128hey duflu , how are you?08:08
dufluseb128, I'm alright. It's springtime here, and I am surveying the set of things that missed 3.38, hopefully GNOME 40.08:08
dufluHow are you seb128?08:08
seb128duflu, I'm alright, trying a new coworking space today08:09
* Laney toe bumps duflu 08:10
Laneymoin seb128 08:10
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:11
oSoMoNhey everyone08:12
didrockshey Laney, seb128, oSoMoN 08:15
seb128lut didrocks , comment ça va ?08:15
didrocksça va, p-e une petite fenêtre d’opportunité pour reprendre la course à pied :)08:16
seb128ah, super, la laisse pas passer :-)08:16
Laneyseb128: yeah alright, looking like a nice day outside!08:25
Laneywhat's different about the new space? closer?08:25
Laneyyo oSoMoN yo didrocks 08:26
Laneyhow's it going?08:26
Laneypied-ing I see08:26
didrocksLaney: heh, correct :p08:27
didrocksseb128: je vais essayer :)08:27
seb128Laney, yes, it's in walking distance (or 5 min with bike), also it's a proper coworking space with desks, screens, etc where the other is an hackspace08:27
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers08:28
* seb128 enjoys a cappuccino from the bar08:28
seb128hey marcustomlinson, how are you?08:28
marcustomlinsonseb128: meh, got a cold. you?08:28
seb128:-(08:29
seb128I'm alright, the usual lack of sleep but I will stop mentioning it at this point since that seems the 'normal' state of affairs at this point :-)08:29
seb128-at this point08:30
Laneyahhhh08:30
marcustomlinsonha, yeah08:30
dufluMorning marcustomlinson 08:38
* duflu goes to the "bar" to make a coffee08:38
seb128duflu, you are playing the role of the barista there as well? ;-)08:40
dufluseb128, yes because I rang the bell for ages and nobody came08:40
* duflu now realises that's a mouse08:44
marcustomlinsonhey duflu08:51
luna_morning desktoppers09:34
dufluMorning luna_ 09:42
LaneyTrevinho: hey, we're past user interface freeze so you need to get an exception for yaru I think10:17
seb128GunnarHj ^10:20
Laneyvia a Launchpad bug10:21
GunnarHjHey seb128, not sure what you mean.10:23
seb128GunnarHj, UIF is going to come as a FYI, you usually help reviewing those I think?10:24
GunnarHjseb128: Ah, ok.10:24
seb128GunnarHj, do you plan to do the gnome-user-docs 3.38.1 update?11:02
GunnarHjseb128: Yes I do. Didn't know it has been released already. I'll fix it.11:04
GunnarHj* including gbp pull *11:04
seb128GunnarHj, thanks11:22
ricotzplease retry vala/s390x https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#vala11:51
seb128ricotz, hey, retried now11:52
ricotzseb128, ty11:52
pizzaioloi'm curious, how long does it usually take for a new version of gnome to make it's way into ubuntu images?12:22
xnoxpizzaiolo:  have you checked the release schedule? it outlines when gnome releases, and when that gets integrated into ubuntu.12:34
GunnarHjseb128: Ready to sponsor: https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-user-docs12:36
pizzaioloxnox i see, looking now12:36
seb128GunnarHj, thanks, I will do that in a bit12:37
mgedminpizzaiolo: precisely the same amount of time there is between the (time-based) gnome releases and (time-based) ubuntu releases12:53
mgedmini.e. about one month12:54
pizzaiolomgedmin i think i'll download the beta and try messing around with it in a VM13:24
TrevinhoLaney: mh, I've pinged the yaru team let see.. from what I was told they were only fixes, " no design changes"14:55
TrevinhoLaney: they said to me "The changes are not visible but they revert that "gray" row selection from the previous update. I think design didnt even ack the gray selection. So for orange rows + fixes for borders and especially for libhandy apps you need this update"15:02
Trevinhothis is what they said to me, want this in a bug?15:02
hellsworthgood morning desktopers!15:07
luna_good afternoon15:08
luna_Waiting for Day 2 of the ZFS Summit to start in 11 minutes: https://openzfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit 15:09
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 15:20
hellsworthhey there oSoMoN !15:21
luna_started now15:40
rbalintLaney, re: rpcsvc-proto, thanks fixing it15:51
Laneyooh15:51
Laneythanks, I was going to JFDI that but then I forgot /o\15:51
rbalintno prob, i'm back now15:59
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juliankI assume there's a regression somewhere in gtk or something, as geany (editor in universe) in groovy is hanging from time to time while typing, but worked fine in focal18:18
juliankAnd geany is the same version18:18
juliankAnyone has some tips for where to start debugging?18:18
juliankwell any of : libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.27), libcairo2 (>= 1.8.0), libgcc-s1 (>= 3.0), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.41.1), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.21.5), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libpangocairo-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2), really18:19
juliankI know, I should just switch to vim18:24
kenvandinehellsworth: the review-tools change hasn't been pulled from the store yet, but jdstrand said they could do a manual review18:24
kenvandineso go ahead and add compression: lzo18:24
hellsworthoh ok neat18:24
hellsworthwill do then :)18:24
hellsworththanks!!18:24
jdstrandhellsworth: feel free to ping amurray or emitorino when you need that manual review18:25
jdstrandhellsworth: (if we don't get to it before you notice :)18:25
hellsworthhaha ok thanks, will do :)18:26
jdstrandhellsworth: the only thing I ask is that if you have automated builds/uploads that perhaps you scale them back a bit so we can keep up better (otherwise they queue up and are rather painful to approve one after the other). I suspect considering it is libreoffice, you probably aren't doing per commit build/uploads, but thought I'd mention it just in case :)18:32
jdstrandhellsworth: or get an lzo build you like, then move it out of edge and then go back to xz for edge until this lands. really, whatever you think/need is best18:33
jdstrand(there have been times on fast moving projects that scores of builds were in the queue due to a change not yet being in prod)18:34
hellsworthjdstrand: right so i don't build libreoffice that often just because it is so huge, usually build and release only once or twice per upstream release19:08
hellsworthi'll get an lzo build going for upload to edge and then (assuming it passes) it should be ready for review tomorrow19:08
jdstrandhellsworth: sounds great19:25
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