OfflineLubuntulooks like 20.04 only has kernel 5.400:00
OfflineLubuntumaybe it's a good thing to stray from LTS now that I got the hang of it?00:00
OfflineLubuntuonly thing is, very worried about losing data during partitioning, is there an easy way to upgrade from 20.04 to 20.10 while securing files?00:01
lotuspsychjeOfflineLubuntu: you could try a 20.04.1 lubuntu sure00:01
lotuspsychjeOfflineLubuntu: 20.10 is not an lts and also not final released, so not yet ready for non-testers00:02
OfflineLubuntuso despite being lower resources if it has the 5.8 kernel it will have the driver support?00:02
OfflineLubuntusorry what I means is if the 5.8 would work on 20.0400:02
lotuspsychjeOfflineLubuntu: not sure, if i was you i would first liveusb 20.10 just as a test first00:03
OfflineLubuntuyeah I should run it off usbs more and not jump to installation so hard00:03
OfflineLubuntualways forget that option00:03
OfflineLubuntualthough... is it even possible to download driver updates when runing OS off the usb?00:03
lotuspsychjeOfflineLubuntu: ubuntu loads driver modules at boot (if supported)00:04
OfflineLubuntubut the drives would be on the OS's iso?00:04
OfflineLubuntuso I don't need to DL?00:04
lotuspsychjeOfflineLubuntu: it depends on the chipset brand00:05
OfflineLubuntuhm, looks like lubuntu's last version was 19.04 guess it hasn't been updated in a while00:05
lotuspsychjeOfflineLubuntu: like broadccom has offline drivers on the iso extra00:05
OfflineLubuntumaybe I should find anothe lower-resource port of ubuntu which has had a more recent update00:05
lotuspsychjeOfflineLubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/pending/00:06
OfflineLubuntuposted at https://askubuntu.com/questions/1280661/can-i-download-a-dongles-driver-via-windows-10-laptop-put-it-on-my-usb-then-i00:06
OfflineLubuntuonly 64bit :(00:07
OfflineLubuntuwell, I could run that on the 2010 4gb, that's 64bit processor00:07
OfflineLubuntujust not my beloved 2007 3gb because it's 3200:07
OfflineLubuntugetting1.8gb iso to try out on other now I guess00:08
OfflineLubuntuwill just overrwite the 20.04 on my 4gb usb00:10
OfflineLubuntuoh man, yeah lsb_release a says I'm using 18.04.5 LTS00:11
OfflineLubuntumaybe there's just no recent kernel support for 32bit00:12
jeremy31OfflineLubuntu:  I edited the tags and will work on it later00:13
OfflineLubuntudo you know command to check if I have build-essential ?00:17
lotuspsychjeOfflineLubuntu: apt policy build-essential00:18
OfflineLubuntuinstalled: 12.4ubuntul00:18
OfflineLubuntuso I was told to download the zip which I think is https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux/archive/master.zip from https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux00:22
OfflineLubuntuin https://askubuntu.com/questions/571414/driver-8812au-install-with-no-ethernet-access noticed something perhaps relevant from chiili55500:32
OfflineLubuntuI tried apt policy linux-headers and it says installed (none) so if that's necessary I'll need to manually add that too00:33
OfflineLubuntuunless maybe there's a 32bit iso which includes it00:33
oerheksi thought headers are included with the build-essential package?00:33
oerhekswhich you seem to have..00:33
guivercOfflineLubuntu, did you verify your ISO post-download? and then validate the write to media?  With your description of a machine being freezing/flaky (even windows), have you checked your hardware? (SMART to validate drives, validated PSU provides good power, & visual scan of motherboard to ensure no swollen caps etc)00:40
OfflineLubuntuI'm not really sure what to look for in terms of hardware damage for swelling. I do know that prior to inheriting the 2010 comp this year it had probably gone 10 years without cleaning by previous owner, was picking out a LOT of dust00:41
OfflineLubuntuso if there was heating damage that could be possible00:41
OfflineLubuntulike tweezing dust balls out of the fan,  etc. first hing I did after I got it00:42
guivercOfflineLubuntu, if careful you can vacumn inside box (don't use metal end of cleaner, don't touch anything), capacitors swell as they go bad so the flat tops (& cross/lines indented) they should have disappear.. sign of them going bad, result is machine will freeze, reboot or risks corrupt data.. dusty keeps heat in and shortens life somewhat, but it's mostly age (components reaching their EOL)00:46
guivercfyi: my own desktop is a 2009 dell00:47
OfflineLubuntuthere is a 50 pg pdf I found for the 2010 one which maybe I can find a pic of capacitors in http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c0185945500:50
OfflineLubuntualso I have no idea what pocket media drives are but they always seem to be thee00:50
guivercOfflineLubuntu, https://i.stack.imgur.com/iVlmX.jpg00:54
OfflineLubuntuthey double in length? madness00:54
guiverc(height is usually minimal difference, key is the smooth top versus flat-good-top)00:55
OfflineLubuntuman I'm just gonna stop screwing in my VGA and DVI connectors from now on, big hassle00:56
guivercanother pic - arrow highlights bad - https://zdnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/08/29/d3b45073-2f54-11e4-9e6a-00505685119a/resize/1170x878/d145b5ad2e062e2edf12245612ba2817/16859.jpg00:57
guiverc(I think they missed an marginal [on it's way out too] on in that last pic)00:57
OfflineLubuntuthose things seem pretty tiny, that's a big closeup, I'll take a photo of the inside of the 2010 4gb 64bit tht keeps crashing though01:00
OfflineLubuntuthe 2007 gb 32bit is weathering along niecly with lubuntu except for the need of wireless LAN means01:00
guivercyou won't get much from a photo, a visual scan is required as you need to see it from varying angles (the one that looks marginal to me may for example look great for other angles thus why the arrow isn't there)01:01
OfflineLubuntua convex  curve in the metal circle middle on top is the indicator?01:03
guivercplease don't post photo here, this is a Ubuntu channel, photos of hardware belong in a hardware room too.  I was suggesting a cap-scan as it's what I'd be doing.01:03
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OfflineLubuntu visibly neither the red ones or blue ones seem to be swelling01:08
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skymousehow can I diagnose my window manager crashing on resume from `systemctl suspend'?02:04
k_szeI just got a coupld of warnings like these when running `apt full-upgrade`: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_33.0.0.bin for module i91502:43
k_szeWhat the heck is that about?02:43
skymouseyour kernel was probably updated, and during that process drivers have to be compiled or installed in to the new kernel.02:45
skymouseBut the source or microcode for a specific driver isn't present on your system in the place expected02:45
oerheksinfo linux-firmware02:47
oerheks!info linux-firmware02:47
ubottulinux-firmware (source: linux-firmware): Firmware for Linux kernel drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.187.3 (focal), package size 96593 kB, installed size 523435 kB02:47
k_szelinux-firmware is installed. This is bionic 18.04 with latest HWE kernel.02:48
k_szeIn fact, the kernel was not even updated during the `apt full-upgrade` just now. It was initramfs, I think.02:48
oerhekshmm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/189088902:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1889137 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1890889 HWE kernel is missing firmwares" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:49
skymousefor me, `dpkg -L linux-firmware | fgrep 'bxt_guc_3' ' lists the firmware as being installed there?02:50
k_szeskymouse, wrong version though, as reported in the bug that oerheks linked.02:52
k_szesomething is expecting version 33.0.0, but I still see version 32.0.3 in linux-firmware02:53
skymouseahh, I'm sorry. I'm running 20.04, whose package includes both firmware versions02:53
OfflineLubuntuediting modeswitch.rules is a tad confusing... has these commands like ^G for Get Help and ^O for Write Out and so on but not sure where to type those letters02:56
OfflineLubuntuI think ^W for Where Is would be something like a Find Test which could be helpful02:57
k_szeIt's also missing firmware for realtek r816902:57
pavlosOfflineLubuntu: are you using nano editor?02:57
OfflineLubuntuGNU nano 2.9.302:57
skymouse^G or ^O means press control g or control o02:57
k_szeDoes the Intel i915 firmware have anything to do with the Intel integrated graphics on 8th gen Core i7?02:58
OfflineLubuntuah, will try to remember this, thanks02:58
OfflineLubuntuand I'm getting the sense that using # at start is for doing comment notes that don't function03:00
pavlosOfflineLubuntu: after you're done with edits, control o will write to a file modeswitch.rules press enter and then control X will exit nano03:00
pavlosOfflineLubuntu: # this is a comment   newline # another comment03:01
delitaman, this guy has been goin for seven hours now03:02
pavlosperseverance ...03:03
OfflineLubuntuwas wondering if I cloned the git and want to install a driver03:07
OfflineLubuntuif it matters where you have that clone when you install it03:07
OfflineLubuntuor if you need to keep the clone afterward there03:07
OfflineLubuntuit seems like I just need to copy the folde over and then open it in terminal and say MAKE03:08
pavlosOfflineLubuntu: when you git clone it will create a dir and all the files inside dir03:08
OfflineLubuntuyeah I did that using Desktop GitHub and then put the folder in my USB03:08
OfflineLubuntuI guess folder = dir03:08
oerheksif that git builds a DKMS, yes you want to keep the clone03:08
OfflineLubuntuanyway I copied the folder to my /home/MYNAME/ directory03:09
OfflineLubuntubut I imagine if I did that with a lot of clones it would get cluttered and might want to move it later03:09
OfflineLubuntubut wondering if that would mess it up03:09
OfflineLubuntuistructions say I could build and install without DKMS, but I went through step of verifying I had DKMS, so kinda confusing..03:10
pavlosOfflineLubuntu: each folder has all the files in needs, so you could have /home/doctor/projectA and /home/doctor/projectB03:10
OfflineLubuntuyeah but if I decided to change the directory would I need to change some kind of reference to where it points?03:11
OfflineLubuntuie for the drivers for my dongle to still get called upon03:11
oerhekswhy changing directory?03:11
OfflineLubuntuno need now since home isn't that cluttered, just seems like eventually it might be good idea03:12
OfflineLubuntudidn't want to make it too hidden so I could find it03:12
pavlosOfflineLubuntu: after a clean "make" it may need a "make install" which will place files in the proper system dirs03:12
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OfflineLubuntuhmmm " To make use of the DKMS feature with this project, just run:03:12
OfflineLubuntuI think I overlooked that because I only just now noticed the .sh file within the clone, perhaps that'd be simpler03:13
pavlosOfflineLubuntu: do you have a link for this driver so I can follow ...03:13
k_szeIn practice, what do the warnings of missing firmware mean for me? Does that mean the related hardware won't work at my next reboot?03:16
skymousep much03:17
OfflineLubuntuTHREE BARS ... I'll take it03:18
k_szeskymouse, unless I pick a slightly older kernel that still has the firmware from the grub menu, right?03:18
OfflineLubuntupavlos I just installed https://github.com/brektrou/rtl8821CU03:19
OfflineLubuntuit actually worked and stuff... this is amazing03:19
skymousek_sze: yeah03:19
OfflineLubuntuthis would even make me go out and buy another copy of the same dongle for the other desktop once I can test if it can run lubuntu 64bit without dying03:19
OfflineLubuntuif it can't even run that then something is terribly wrong beyond my means03:19
k_szeWhat's odd is that the bug isn't exactly new. How is it that I only see it now? I run apt full-upgrade quite frequently.03:20
k_sze(`apt update` first, and then `apt full-upgrade`, obviously)03:21
skymouseI have no idea. I'm sorry. :'(03:23
OfflineLubuntugotta sleep now night all03:28
OfflineLubuntuthanks for help03:28
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c-nisterhello in here... anyone running an encrypted customized ubuntu pendrive ?04:51
mlok_Hello I was trying to setup RAID but I removed one of the disks before I properly removed it from RAID /dev/sdd06:59
mlok_Is there a way I could remove it from RAID when the disk is not physically there?06:59
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max12345hey everyone, I reached out to a package maintainer via question and bug report on launchpad three weeks ago and have not received a reply. I want to contribute/improve the package. Any advice on what else I can try?08:04
ynota@max12345 have you tried code triage? https://www.codetriage.com/08:09
max12345ynota: how would that help improving the package I have the problem with?08:13
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu08:15
ynota@max12345 if the project is linked with code triage it may be a better way to communicate with the maintainer.08:16
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tomreynmost of the time, package maintainer != original developer08:20
max12345I signed up for the ubuntu-devel mailing list and ask my question there again, with links.08:22
max12345I don't mind that it's not the original developer, I just want to talk to the guy who decides on merges at the moment and convince him that some things should be changed. :)08:22
tomreynmax12345: cool, i was rather responding to ynota there. you may also want to read up on the !SRU process08:25
ubottuStable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates08:25
max12345tomreyn: thanks! I don't think my case is that critical... do you happen to know if the list subscription has to be confirmed by a moderator or it should be automatic? I'm waiting on the confirmation mail...08:29
tomreynmax12345: hmm, i'm not actually sure, no. i think it's just mailman, though, isn't it? if so, there should be a web interface where you could login and check your status.08:30
tomreynyes, it's mailman08:31
tomreynsee the bottom options08:31
tomreynyou'll need to get a password reminder then use that to login and edit options08:32
tomreyn"Open to all to subscribe, posting moderated for people who are not Ubuntu developers"08:33
tomreynyou'd probably still need to confirm your subscription in terms of clicking on a link in a subsdcription prompt e-mail, but this should be it.08:34
max12345Yep, I will just wait a bit for the prompt mail then.08:38
tomreyncheck spam :)08:39
max12345naturally. :) it's not there.08:41
todohi all please help, wanting to get a program running after installing aa and firejail, have run "sudo aa-genprof", system throws error cant find systemlog "/var/log/syslog" can you give me any pointers please08:45
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yuri6037Hi, does anyone know how to fix DPKG? It's broken. Trying to update a NVIDIA driver caused DPKG to break completely: cannot install, cannot remove, cannot purge, cannot upgrade, cannot fix-broken09:21
yuri6037Every commands complains that pulseaudio has unmet dependencies and trying to install pulseaudio causes zlib to be  have unmet dependency on libglib2 WTF is that?09:22
yuri6037Here is a log when trying fix-broken: https://pastebin.com/5nAE9gBH09:23
yuri6037I tried to remove architecture i386 but guess what DPKG refuses to do this cause apparently it's in use while I know no apps are currently running and needs x86 support!09:25
oerheks43 not upgraded. run apt full-upgrade09:25
yuri6037E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).09:25
oerheksoh removing i386 arch also ..09:26
yuri6037Cannot remove it09:26
yuri6037dpkg: error: cannot remove architecture 'i386' currently in use by the database09:26
oerhekstehn odn for now, do a proper upgrade first09:26
oerheksc/then don't for now09:26
yuri6037I tried all commands possible DPKG/apt is completely broken everything is rejected09:27
chietahow to monitor the directory ?09:36
jpdschieta: What directory?09:37
chietathe upload directory /srv/upload/09:38
jpdschieta: You could use auditd or some monitoring solution that keeps a count of how many files are in there09:43
jpdschieta: But nothing is directly built into Ubuntu so you'd have to create your own script09:43
MadLambAfter some updates yesterday, one of the keys on my keyboard started behaving weirdly. Its like its locked, but if I press it for lets say 30 seconds it starts working normally. I am thinking this is software related, but could also be hardware. Can someone help me to confirm?09:50
jpdsMadLamb: Boot into a LiveCD, if it happens there, it's hardware related09:50
MadLambjpds, I would have done that, but dont have a pendrive atm, will need to buy one.09:51
MadLambjpds, another option?09:51
jpdsMadLamb: It's the quickest way to confirm it09:51
MadLambjpds, when you have the pendrive yes09:52
jpdsMadLamb: It's unlikely that we have your exact keyboard + software versions installed09:52
MadLambjpds, I can see that, but there should be a way to debug it no? probable causes?09:52
jpdsMadLamb: Otherwise, you can look at /var/log/apt/history.log and look at downgrading the packages involved in the update09:53
MadLambjpds, that is excellent advice09:53
MadLambI can see conmon:amd64 (2.0.20~1, automatic)09:55
jpdsWhich has nothing to do with keyboards09:56
jpdsSo I suspect it's a hardware issue09:56
MadLambI also have this very weird behavior when I open the on screen keyboard and press the same key09:56
MadLambit freezes for a while and spits 20 times that key09:57
MadLambwhen i do that, journalctl tells "gnome-shell[3355]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 31 with keysym 31 (keycode a)."09:58
MadLamba bunch of time09:58
MadLambcaribou[87284]: daemon.vala:120: error in focus handler: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.Caribou.Keyboard was not provided by any .service files10:00
MadLambthe key that frezzes is "q", and I can type it now10:04
sub526I have a file with multiple lines. I want to find a particular pattern in the file and then delete the rest of the line once that pattern finds.. I need to do this for entire file, is there a command to get this?10:31
BluesKajHi all11:25
tomreynsub526: here's an example: sed --regexp-extended --in-place 's;(PATTERN).*$;\1;' path/to/file11:29
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PeanutHi, where could I find out why the 'csv2svn' package has been removed in Focal? It was included in Xenial and Bionic.12:36
tomreynPeanut: i'd start at https://packages.ubuntu.com/cvs2svn confirm it's not in recent ubuntu releases, then click on the latest version (bionic), and notice it says "original maintainer" pointing to Debian. then i'd look at https://tracker.debian.org/cvs2svn and the "news" there12:42
oerhekscvs2svn perhaps?12:42
tomreyn...where it then says "Removed 2.5.0-1 from unstable", and inspect that12:43
Peanuttomreyn: Awesome, thanks. I had gotten as far as the Ubuntu packages, but missed the step to Debian.12:43
oerheksdepends on python2.7?12:44
PeanutYes, seems to be a combination of 'requires python 2', and 'repository is gone'.12:45
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MikeRLAnyone know what happened to the Wireguard PPA for Ubuntu on Launchpad? Went to update this morning and got an error saying there was no release file. Searched it up and nothing on Launchpad.13:05
oerheksindeed.. https://launchpad.net/~wireguard/+archive/ubuntu/wireguard13:06
jpdsoerheks / MikeRL: The team page shows that the PPA has been removed for normal distro packages13:07
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/wireguard-linux/+packages ?13:07
MikeRLjpds, Thanks. But what do I do? The wireguard-dkms package I had from the PPA is newer.13:08
jpdsMikeRL: Which release/kernel are you running?13:08
tomreynwhich version do / did you have?13:08
MikeRLjpds, Ubuntu 20.04.1 with a 5.8 kernel.13:09
jpdsMikeRL: Then you don't even need dkms13:09
jpdsMikeRL: WireGuard has been in the kernel itself since 5.413:09
MikeRLWhen was dkms required?13:09
jpdsMikeRL: Before that13:09
MikeRLOh ok. So it's apt-purge time.13:09
tomreyneven ppa-purge13:10
MikeRLjpds, Installing the wireguard package also installs the dkms package. Should that be considered a bug on newer versions?13:11
jpdsMikeRL: Stop using the PPA version :P13:11
MikeRLActually you saying it's been in since 5.4 rings a bell.13:11
jpdsAll you need is wireguard-tools13:11
MikeRLYeah but with the PPA gone, it still installs wireguard-dkms. Weird.13:11
MikeRLI actually removed the PPA when I noticed the error before posting here.13:12
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MikeRLI also apt-purged all the packages after removing the PPA. Still insists on dkms.13:16
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BluesKajMikeRL, dkms is a separate package builder13:22
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MikeRLBluesKaj, What does that mean exactly?13:25
BluesKajMikeRL, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support13:26
MikeRLBluesKaj, Thanks.13:26
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MikeRLOh. I see now, I overthought things.13:27
MikeRLI honestly knew DKMS built things for the kernel.13:27
MikeRLThanks guys for the info. Was helpful.13:28
todohey yall need some help with firejail apparmor am trying to run youtube-dl via sudo aa-complain youtube-dl-gives profile for firejail usr/binfirejail not found-how do i create one?13:28
MikeRLSo one less PPA for me to need to mess with. Good.13:28
todois there a way around apparmor firejail to just let youtube-dl thru on a per command basis13:28
todohttps://pastebin.com/Dj8sW4xJ here is a little more detail13:31
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conjolotuspsychje, hey man im sorry to single u out but i could really do with a hand if you can afford it please13:34
lotuspsychjeconjo: throw your issue into the channel13:35
conjohello again all can anyone help me to get aa and firejail to allow my program to runs please13:36
conjo:) trying man13:37
* conjo thinks his rtfm too many times and is permanently insane13:37
conjoim trying to get program x to run from cli, error i get is this "Profile for /usr/bin/firejail not found, skipping" i have firejail and aa installed loaded running  https://pastebin.com/Dj8sW4xJ please help me13:40
conjohave tried sudo aa-complain youtube-dl, not working13:41
lotuspsychjeconjo: https://linuxconfig.org/protect-your-system-run-your-browser-in-firejail can this help?13:42
conjothanks lotuspsychje, its just that ive read 7 pages with more or less the same explained on ea page, problem being its just not sinking in13:44
conjothanks ill have another read13:44
lotuspsychjeconjo: the linuxconfig howto's are mostly pretty clean and nice explained13:45
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subcooloff topic chat?13:49
lotuspsychje!discuss | subcool13:51
ubottusubcool: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!13:51
conjoty lotuspsychje13:52
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conjohow would i find out the full path of a program when i usually run it from the terminal eg vlc firefox?14:22
xtaowhich vlc14:23
conjojust a min while i check14:23
xtaoas in that's what you type14:23
xtaothat's not me asking you a question :)14:23
conjoo shit lol14:24
conjocould kiss u xtao ty14:25
* xtao runs away14:26
random1Any advice on how to block all USB ports on Ubuntu 20.04??14:35
PeanutHot Glue?14:35
random1was looking more int a blacklist method ;)14:35
lxusr50random1, You could try changing permissions on your media directory...possibly14:38
wedrQuestion for Ubuntu 20.04. Is there a way to disable horizontal scrollbars from blocking the last list item from view and mouse click?  https://i.imgur.com/uw5TpTf.png14:39
wedrI'm using the default Gnome UI and default installation.14:39
Peanutrandom1: What are you exactly trying to block? All devices including mice/keyboards? Audio devices, mass storage, PTP, phones, Palm Pilot (I still have one of those...) ?14:40
leftyfblxusr50: that will not prevent non-storage devices or manually mounting them elsewhere14:40
lxusr50Got ya...It was just a thought.14:40
random1I am only trying to block all USB ports peanut14:43
random1I have 3 usb ports on my laptop. I would like to block them from external threats.14:44
lotuspsychjerandom1: lock a user with chmod, dont share your admin pass14:45
xtaoarn't some of the threats outside of the o/s? as in devices can directly affect the firmware on the USB controller and stuff14:45
lxusr50random1, Very hard to block a dedicated hacker that has access to your hardware.14:46
xtaoi guess you can't just simply disable all USB in the o/s as a lot of the internal devices on the motherboard likely sit on the USB bus too14:46
xtaocertainly on a laptop anyway14:47
xtaolike trackpad etc14:47
random1Best I can do is bios password with encrypted hard drive. Next step is USB blacklist. Figured there would be a route to stop this. I have seen software on other distros that have a preinstalled program that easily blocks all USB plugs14:48
random1stopping anyone from plugging in a USB without first enabling it.14:48
pavlosrandom1: you can add "blacklist usb_storage" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf14:49
random1thank you pavlos. Let me try that out.14:49
pavlosrandom1: lsmod | grep usb shows modules loaded14:50
random1effective pavlos. I made the mistake of adding ID #'s and it didnt quite work the way I wanted it to. This was quite simple. I appreciate your guidance.14:53
pavlosrandom1: yw14:53
random1Would like to make a script for this. Would be rather simple I would imagine. Enable disable blacklist14:54
tdmainiaci finally got this setup14:56
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donaldkbrownWhat is the difference between the flatpak of Steam and the .deb version? I'm able to launch No Man's Sky through proton on flatpak but not .deb, but I can't get Hydroneer running through the flatpak version of Steam+proton even though it runs fine through the .deb version.15:28
donaldkbrownI really don't want to have to run two different versions of Steam, so I'm trying to nail down what's not working on one of them.15:29
oerheksflatpak .. interesting, we do support snap natively.15:34
oerheksfind the flatpack maintainer?15:35
donaldkbrownAs far as I know, Valve is the maintainer of both. I can reach out to them, but I've never gotten support.15:37
donaldkbrownI can't launch any Steam+proton games through the Snap version, though. And the Linux-native ones are slower in Snap than .deb.15:38
donaldkbrownI only get about 45 FPS in a game like Forager through Snap.15:38
oerheksthe official way is steam tru apt, fast search learns there is no snap version on https://snapcraft.io/search?q=steam15:39
donaldkbrownHm, been a while, maybe I wasn't using Snap at the time. It was back on 18.04 that I (thought) I tried it. Coming back to Ubuntu from Clear Linux now that 20.04 is out.15:41
oerheksflatpak, appimage, snap or deb, they should do the same, get the key and installer15:42
Mat63How to run the scan from Ubuntu, only the printer works, I'm not interested?15:47
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donaldkbrownAre you asking how to use a scanner?15:49
conjosimple scanner ubuntu software center15:49
Mat63Can you help me in some way to run a scanner from Ubuntu (usb connection)?15:49
donaldkbrownJust install, as cojo said, the simple scanner from the software center.15:50
conjoif you open up the ubuntu software center and install simple scanner then reboot, then try scan a doc see if it works report back15:50
Mat63Very good, it works. Thank you, see you soon.15:56
donaldkbrownAlright, for some reason the version of steam installed through just `apt install steam` is different than that installed by flatpak or `apt install steam-installer`. If I use the regular `steam` package, I get a Steam_API error when launching No Man's Sky. If I use the `steam-installer` version, I can run all of my Steam+Proton games without issue.15:58
oerheksyeah right, there is no 'steam' package but steam-installer only16:01
oerheksthere must be some flatpak confusion here16:02
donaldkbrownNo, there is just a regular `steam` package.16:03
nbusroneMay i know what does the kernal different in SMART reading on external hard disk ? why Windows able to read smart on WD passport external hard disk while ubuntu can't ?16:04
ryan-cI'm on ubuntu 20.04, trying to get my headphone jack to work on my desktop with intel hda sound. line out in the back and spdif both work16:11
plujonIs Ubuntu still releasing non-LTS versions?16:11
lotuspsychjeplujon: yes every 9 months16:12
ryan-cbeen googling all afternoon16:13
plujonlotuspsychje: Thanks; and those on such usually do do-release-upgrade every 9 months or so?16:13
pavlosnbusrone: did you try the gnome-disks app? the smart data option is grayed out?16:13
wedrUbuntu 20.04.1 bug where the text on the login page is too large is now fixed.   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/189244016:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1892440 in mutter (Ubuntu Groovy) "Shell text with wrong size in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 (mostly on Nvidia)" [Medium,Fix released]16:14
lotuspsychjeplujon: the community has a lot of different users, its hard to generalize the way they use it, some do, others dont16:14
wedrUnless, this is not the bug affecting the login page?16:14
plujonlotuspsychje: Okay, thanks.  But one could keep doing that to stay up to date...16:15
lotuspsychjeplujon: correct, you can jump to the next release before your current has gone eol16:15
nbusronepavlos : The SMART is grey out and I try Gsmartcontol also the same issue.But in windows using crystalinfo i get all the SMART attributes .I wonder what is the different between both16:15
lotuspsychjewedr: the mutter bug should be fixed by now16:21
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wedrlotuspsychje, I just don't know how to actually attempt the reproduction of the bug to verify if it works16:22
wedrwithout restarting the computer16:22
lotuspsychjewedr: why do you want to reproduce a fixed bug?16:23
wedrSo I can personally verify it actually is fixed.16:34
wedrI have no idea how they reproduce the bug before the fix is released.16:35
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jwashhi everyone, i may have made a mistake in the sense that i issued a database backup command without thinking about the size. can ext4 handle a 150-200Gb file?16:56
demonsporkjwash: it supports single files up to 16TiB  according to the wikipedia article17:02
jwashthank goodnes17:03
plujonCan a 32-bit ubuntu 18.04 system be updated to 20.04 ?17:03
lotuspsychjeplujon: 18.04 is the last of the 32-bit saga17:04
lotuspsychjeplujon: you can still use it till eol, and extend it with !ESM if you pay17:05
plujonI wonder what the [small] 32-bit world will use...17:05
plujonI see that fedora dropped i686 as well.17:06
dan01Is it possible to automatically run a script after installation?17:06
dan01To install some packages, setup dns, etc.17:07
lotuspsychjedan01: are you on a desktop or server?17:08
demonsporkdan01: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apbs02.html17:08
demonsporkPreseed file is what you are looking for dan0117:09
dan01lotuspsychje: desktop17:16
lotuspsychjedan01: the packages install is easy to: sudo apt install package1 package2 package3 quickly17:19
lotuspsychjedan01: it all depends a bit what your endgoal is exactly, do you want to always automate the same on different machines? or just backup the same on your own system?17:20
dan01lotuspsychje: I want to create a script so that when I install Ubuntu on a machine it automatically installs a list of my favorite software and adds some ppas17:21
ioriadan01, i guess you need a custom ubuntu iso17:24
lotuspsychjedan01: or a backup image that suits you17:25
dan01ioria: yeah, but then the apps would be outdated... A post install script17:25
lotuspsychje!borg | dan0117:25
ubottudan01: borg is a fast backup tool with incremental backups: https://www.borgbackup.org/ (Ubuntu packages: borgbackup, borgbackup-doc, and borgmatic)17:25
ioriadan01, probably, but usually you need anyways run update/uypgrade after you make an install17:26
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ioriadan01, and when you'll do it, you'll upgrade also the added packages17:28
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Peanutdan01: consider a configuration managment system like Ansible? That's how I do, for quite a lot of server.17:38
Peanut*duh* he left.17:38
xbfrogi know my GPU is capable of higher resolution than Ubuntu sets as the maximum. is the maximum video resolution controlled in the Kernel?17:41
xbfrogi have contacted matrox they issued the last update for graphics but said they dont offer any support17:41
xbfrogthe matrox box i have has no gpu it takes the video given by my system and splits it across the three17:42
xbfrogmy resolution max in the gpu of the laptop is 4096x230417:43
xbfrogthe matrox box supports a max of; 5760x108017:43
benharriborgmatic is lovely17:45
gordieHello ! I got troubles trying to write a shell script to automate some commands. Could anyone help on this ? https://superuser.com/questions/1591517/my-shell-script-to-open-a-new-terminals-with-two-tabs-that-runs-npm-start-and17:55
leftyfb!mint | gordie18:05
ubottugordie: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)18:05
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jpmiller25EriC^^: hey idk if youre in here watching right now but I found a trick to solve the bootloader issue when installing on a USB drive -19:15
jpmiller25EriC^^: I've loaded the installer on a virtualbox with no hard disk, and gave it access to the usb3.0 drive, that way it installs the OS and bootloader on the only drive it sees :)  got it working now19:17
ipatrolI am tying myself in knots getting kpatch-dkms upgraded19:27
Bashing-om!info kpatch-dkms bionic19:28
ubottukpatch-dkms (source: kpatch): DKMS module for Kpatch. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-0ubuntu1.1 (bionic), package size 13 kB, installed size 58 kB (Only available for linux-amd64)19:28
Bashing-om!info kpatch-dkms focal19:29
ubottuPackage kpatch-dkms does not exist in focal19:29
ipatrolBashing-om: yes, it's bionic19:30
ipatrolI'm trying to prepare for a release upgrade19:30
tomreynfrom bionic to focal?19:30
tomreynah, good to know19:30
ipatrolor whatever is the stable release19:31
tomreyni guess the removal off focal can be related to the past removal off debian testing https://tracker.debian.org/news/953691/kpatch-removed-from-testing/19:31
tomreynit's back in debian, but not in ubuntu19:31
tomreynmaybe look for a ppa then19:33
ipatroltomreyn: It should still be in Bionic's repo, no?19:34
tomreynit is still in bionic's universe, yes. but you said you're preparing for upgrading to focal19:35
tomreynor seemed to19:35
ipatrolI still need to upgrade every package to its latest for do-release-upgrade to work19:35
tomreyndo you have an ubuntu support question?19:38
ipatrolyes, how do I get this package to upgrade so I can upgrade my distro version?19:38
tomreynfrom Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS?19:39
tomreynor something completely different?19:39
Bashing-omipatrol: 5.3 kernel ? How does this play into ununtu ? out of tree ?19:39
ipatrolBashing-om: what's the current kernel version for Bionic?19:40
ipatroltomreyn: yes, LTS to LTS19:40
tomreyn16.04 is also a supported LTS19:40
tomreynyou'll need to be more specific19:40
ipatrolMost recent LTS19:40
Bashing-omipatrol: " [security]: amd64 i386 ".19:40
tomreynlsb_release -ds    says?19:40
ipatrolUbuntu 19.1019:41
tomreynthats not lts19:41
ipatrolOk, my mistake19:41
ubottuUbuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) was the 31st release of Ubuntu, support ended July 2020. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-July/005494.html19:41
leftyfbipatrol: since the package isn't available in focal and ppa's and their packages should be removed during an upgrade, you should just remove the package before upgrading and re-install it later19:41
ipatrolleftyfb: ok, done, that leaves the problem with ubuntu-advantage tools19:42
benharriquick question: i already posted this in #ubuntu-packaging but i haven't heard anything. i ran into some issues with this bug yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman3/+bug/187770119:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1877701 in mailman3 (Ubuntu) "Mailman3 3.2.2-1 is incompatible with Python3 3.8.2-0" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:42
benharriis it possible to bet a newer upstream version of mailman3 in backports or should i look at migrating to a pip-based install of mailman3?19:42
ipatrolleftyfb, tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V4H5g4BmW6/19:43
ipatrolYes, I know eoan is out of support, however I am trying to install focal, which is not.19:44
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:44
tomreynyou may need to carry out a debian style release upgrade to upgrade from this now unsupported source release19:45
tomreynipatrol: i take this back, eoan (19.10) packages are still available on archive.ubuntu.com, so you should still be able to carry uot an upgrade using do-release-upgrade19:47
ipatroltomreyn: I'm at the "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", which is the problem19:48
tomreynsee what leftyfb said19:48
tomreynstart with a    sudo dpkg --purge ubuntu-advantage-tools19:49
ipatroltomreyn: yeah, I removed kpatch, but ubuntu-advantage-tools is a dependency of ubuntu-minimal19:50
tomreynso you could remove ubuntu-minimal19:50
ipatrolwon't that break the rest of the system?19:51
tomreynno, its a meta package only19:51
tomreynare your apt sources currently pointing to 19.10?19:51
leftyfbipatrol: I have a feeling you have something very non-standard installed causing issues. Something python'y19:51
tomreynyes, it'd unexpected that packages from main barf like this19:52
leftyfbipatrol: try installing python3-cffi-backend19:52
leftyfbipatrol: also: pastebin: apt-cache policy python3-cffi-backend ubuntu-advantage-tools19:53
tomreynchnaces are you installed python modules globally via pip19:53
tomreynor mixed python 2 / 319:53
leftyfbugh, pip19:54
ipatrolI cleared out the pip packages19:54
ipatrolNo, the problem was virtualenvwrapper was held back19:54
ipatrol> Your python3 install is corrupted. Please fix the '/usr/bin/python3' symlink.19:55
leftyfbipatrol: ls -l /usr/bin/python319:56
tomreynipatrol: you will want to re-install ubuntu-minimal later before you do the do-release-upgrade. i just suggested removal for now to help you make apt happy. thanks to Bashing-om for pointing this out.19:57
ipatroltomreyn: What do I need to fix with python to make the system happy now?19:58
tomreynundo what you did to break it19:58
tomreyna fresh installation can do wonders, too19:58
ipatrolWhat should it point to?19:59
tomreyni'm not sure, packages.ubuntu.com doesn't list unsupported EOL releases20:00
Bashing-omipatrol: I am on fully recently updated 20,04 -- and my python for reference " ls -al /usr/bin/python3 >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 11 14:41 /usr/bin/python3 -> python3.8 ".20:00
ipatrolBashing-om: that's 20.04, I need to know what it linked to in 1920:02
tomreyni think you mean 19.1020:02
ipatrolyeah, and it was 3.720:02
tomreynyou can     sudo update-alternatives python320:04
tomreynand set it to that, or to the default20:04
tomreynyou can     sudo update-alternatives --config python320:04
tomreyn^ that rather20:05
tomreynbut i'm not sure this will solve all your python problems20:05
ipatrolSuggestion: give do-release-upgrade a mode where it can determine all the things that may block an upgrade in one go20:06
Bashing-omipatrol: there is the " -s " switch to (S)imulate what the package manager will do .20:08
ipatrolnot quite the same thing I don't think20:10
ipatrolppa-purge is doing nothing, using Synaptic to clear them by hand20:18
tomreynppa-purge only works when apt doesn't quit with errors.20:20
PeanutHi - is there neat way to reshape an array with alternating real and imaginary numers into one that's half the length consisting of complex numers? I'm currently using c=a[::2]+1j*a[1::2].20:20
ipatroltomreyn: only thing it gave was a warning about the lack of a Release file in a repo. Shouldn't be an error though?20:21
PeanutErrr. apologies, this is not #python, wrong channel!20:21
tomreynipatrol: i think this comes with an "E:" in front, indicating error, or a follow-up message does.20:22
ipatrolyes, it does20:22
ipatrol"Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason" is kinda non-indicative. A warning usually doesn't mean the command failed.20:23
tomreynusually this is accompanied by another message20:23
ipatrolNope, that was the last line20:23
tomreynbut there probably were other lines, too?20:24
ipatrolNo, just those two20:24
tomreynwell the other is an error, and then the final message points out "make sure you thorughly read the full output, something is wrong"20:25
ipatrolOk, but I think describing a failure as a warning is bad UI, no?20:25
tomreynmaybe. and while you could file bugs about EOL releases, i don't think it will serve a purpose20:26
ipatrol!info ppa-purge focal20:27
ubottuppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr63 (focal), package size 6 kB, installed size 24 kB20:27
Bashing-om!ppa-purge | ipatrol20:28
ubottuipatrol: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html20:28
ipatrolno, I was just checking if the package still exists20:28
ipatrolI suspect that particular behavior hasn't changed though, but I'll check the source first if I do file a bug.20:28
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ipatrol2020-10-07 16:31:24,812 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'postgresql-10-postgis-2.4' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.'20:33
ipatrolWhat's a removal blacklist and how to I un-blacklist it?20:34
tomreyna list of packages do-release-upgrade knows it should not remove, and i don't think you can easily remove it off the blacklist, nor that you want to20:35
tomreynyour system is most likely not in a good state to start a release upgrade, yet20:35
ipatrolSynaptic removed it perfectly cleanly20:36
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tomreynyou could post this    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog20:37
tomreynand, if your apt is currently happy, you could installapt-forktracer and post its output20:38
tomreynthis should help us help you prepare for a proper release upgrade20:38
ipatrolI don't run strange lines including netcat. Plus, they might not get through my network in the first place.20:39
tomreynyou can just omit the last part and just inspect /tmp/aptlog and share it if you feel like it20:40
tomreynor run those single commands individually:    sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list}        sudo apt-get -y update      apt-cache policy       sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade20:41
ipatrolNo, I got through it by just manually removing them, since there were no depends on them20:42
tomreyn-s to apt-get simulates20:42
tomreynalright, good luck20:42
ipatrolyeah, it's downloading the upgrades now20:43
ipatrol(also had to mount the EFI, which I normally don't to avoid accidentally breaking stuff)20:44
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MacGregorIn the Files app in Ubuntu 20.04, how do I get a textbox into which I can type a location? I would rather double-clicking down into a folder tree.21:01
MacGregorjpds: Thank you that works perfectly. Any way to have that textbox be permanent?21:03
jpdsMacGregor: Not that I know of21:03
MacGregorjpds: Ok, thank you for the help.. much appreciated21:03
MacGregorWell, I must say, there is nothing left to do except enjoy the computer. I'm quite impressed with Ubuntu 20.0421:06
Bashing-omMacGregor: My prejudice showing: try (x)ubuntu 20.04 :D21:12
MacGregorBashing-om: Not a fan of XFCE21:13
Bashing-omMacGregor: :D - why we do have choice .21:14
MacGregorBashing-om: Indeed, choice is a great thing :)21:14
boredguyChoice of themes or choice of os?21:15
Bashing-omboredguy: My take: the kernel is the kernel is the kernel - what you lay on top is your choice.21:16
boredguyEverything is based on English,C,C++ and Unix-like concepts though21:18
boredguyWas hoping another country might pitch in with their own implementation21:18
MacGregorBashing-om: That's an excellent way of puttin git21:19
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plujondpkg-query --list # shows many linux-modules; is there an easy way to remove ones I don't need?23:27
blahboybazI am not able to connect my phone to my laptop (ubuntu 18.04 lts).  This: https://www.quora.com/My-Moto-E2-is-not-connecting-to-my-PC-via-a-USB-cable-The-cable-is-fine-What-should-I-do  Talks about installing drivers and a link: https://support.motorola.com/us/en/solution/MS88481  given in that post for drivers does not seem to have them for linux. What is the source of the problem? How can I fix it? And, is there a simpler /23:28
blahboybazsimple workaround (perhaps something on the command line to connect the device)?23:28
jeremy31plujon: > sudo apt autoremove23:29
blahboybazit is a cheap motorola moto e with android 923:29
plujonjeremy31: Thanks, but that doesn't remove them.23:29
jeremy31blahboybaz: what are you trying to do with the phone?23:30
blahboybazjeremy31: mount it so I can transfer files23:30
jeremy31blahboybaz: you may have to check notifications on the phone and switch from charge only to MTP mode23:31
blahboybazThe phone's display indicates it is charging when I plug it in via usb but the laptop / operating system does not give a promp about it being mounted / available23:31
blahboybazjeremy31: Don't know where to find that23:31
blahboybazjeremy31: I do get notifacation display on my home screen when locked but no notification about that appears23:32
jeremy31blahboybaz: after plugging the phone into the USB connected to computer, drag from the top of the phone display down, there should be a notification about phone connected to USB, click to change23:33
blahboybazjeremy31: I will attempt it23:33
blahboybazjeremy31: Yeah, there just isn't a notifacation about that appearing. ( only the other stuff that was alread there).23:34

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