[03:53] Robert K was added by: Robert K [03:53] Hey everyone! [03:55] I'm fairly new to Linux (I dabbled years ago). Is it safe for me to join the beta or would you suggest I stick with the current version? [04:08] Hey Everyone! [04:09] Didn't know the Telegram and IRC were connected. [04:11] Hey recybery [04:31] Louis Grundy was added by: Louis Grundy [04:38] Hey Louis Grundy [05:09] Sup [05:13] Robert K I'm running the beta right now, but it's beta [05:14] I would start with 20.04 and upgrade when 20.10 if you want [05:19] I'm in 20.04 now. Tried to add the Neon PPA's but get an error. On the Kubuntu site it says the update to 20.10 won't happen until it has Qt.5.12. [05:20] it will happen on release day [05:20] !groovy [05:20] Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) will be the 33rd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release October 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GroovyGorilla/ReleaseSchedule ). Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions. [05:21] adding the neon PPAs is not likely to work [05:21] if you want neon, install neon [05:21] you can always do it in a VM [05:22] Ok so I'll stay with 20.04 until later this month. No I heard Neon isn't stable. [05:23] I'm running on an FX processor that won't let me run a VM, can only run Via software and the new processors have VM capabilities built in. I've tried with Linux and Windows with no luck. [05:24] there is a stable version and an unstable [05:25] I can wait. I like Kubuntu. Just thought I'd try the newer version if it was safe to. [05:25] it's safe, but not very stable right now [05:25] for instance, closing zoom crashed my whole system a couple of hours ago [05:26] first time I've used zoom and I'm not planning to do THAT again [05:26] ick [05:26] That's what I meant stable...not safe like it'll ruin my computer. I never use zoom. [05:27] I have used it in the browser before [05:27] it's ... ok [05:27] I used it once for a virtual funeral. I use Discord and Skype. [05:28] I can't recall closing anything crashing my whole system since I left windows in .... 2001 or so [05:28] so I do blame zoom [05:28] but still [05:28] I was surprised that Kubuntu didn't have a Discord channel, Ubuntu Mate does. [05:29] I haven't had issues with Windows. I'm trying Linux and enjoying it. [05:30] well, we have Telegram and Matrix [05:30] can't have everything.... [05:30] Matrix? [05:30] discord doesn't even pretend to be libre software [05:31] tg sorta does [05:31] https://matrix.org/ [05:31] I know, just didn't you could use Telegram like this and didn't know it can cook up to IRC. [05:33] Looks interesting. I'll have to look into it more. === mangu is now known as nlmarco [05:55] there is a discord <> matrix bridge [05:55] Ok [05:55] so I guess it could be done [05:56] I don't think i'd like even more bridging, frankly [05:56] irc rules -- except on the phone [05:56] there i would prefer tg [05:58] I love telegram but I use it a lot as well [06:00] This is my first time using Telegram. I've used Signal. [06:01] Oh ok [06:01] signal for most everything, yes [06:01] Its similar [06:01] private stuff [06:01] Ok [06:01] even phone calls [06:01] matrix can do calls as well, I hear [06:02] it didn't work well for me [06:03] I'll have to look into that. I kept trying to get friends of mine to use Signal but only one did so I switched to Google Messenger. I can text from my computer to everyone on my phone while Signal you can only message people who use Signal. [06:04] @Robert K, Stay on leap version. [06:05] If you are using your desktop for productivity. [06:06] I'm pretty new too. I tried it many years ago and kept breaking it. It's come a long way since. I just started using it again about 2 weeks ago. Been trying different distros. [06:08] I've been using Kubuntu for about 5 days and that's the longest I've stayed with a dristro. lol [06:09] @Robert K, Yeah in those times, there were too many bugs. No codecs and driver available for users. I started using mandale distro in 2004. [06:09] Mandrake distro* [06:09] I used Xandros and Suse [06:10] Before it became OpenSuse [06:10] I also tried Lindos for a short time. [06:10] @Robert K, Cool [06:11] @Robert K, Opens use is freeware and suse is payware. [06:11] Opensuse* [06:11] Suse is enterprise desktop. [06:12] I wanted to try Gecko but I game and hear Suse is horrible for gaming. [06:13] So far I'm pretty happy with Kubuntu, its stable, fast and looks nice. [06:16] Yeah suse is slower but very stable. [06:16] I don't play games. [06:17] I tried Manjaro but Grub broke my Windows drive. [06:17] Right now I am on opensuse 15.2 [06:18] I liked Yast even back then. [06:18] Use it for sales work on my leonovo miix 320 tablet. [06:18] You work for Kubuntu..or on Kubuntu? [06:20] Just asking because you're in here but use Opensuse. Or do you have Kubuntu on another computer? === lordievader is now known as Guest93575 === vadim_ is now known as _vadi_ === Guest93575 is now known as lordievader [07:00] Good morning [07:04] I was using kubuntu till last week. [07:04] You switched because of work? Or? [07:05] Now I am on opensuse. Trying out the distro. I am looking for super stable distro for productivity. [07:07] Kubuntu and Ubuntu Mate are good, Linux Mint, MX Linux, Pop_OS. Just don't try Arch, I hear it breaks. [07:22] @Robert K, Arch works differently too .... It's normal. But I'm fine with Kubuntu [07:23] I just hear with Arch that you get updates every day and some updates break the OS. [07:24] @Robert K, Any rolling release can have issues, that's like using the alpha and beta versions of the whole OS [07:25] And if you don't have any major reason to use Kali, then use other distros and install the tools you need [07:25] I haven't heard much about OpenSuse tumbleweed. I've used Solus and it's pretty stable. [07:25] I have tried xubuntu, lubuntu, Ubuntu, kubuntu, openmandriva and lastly opensuse. [07:25] @Empire201_Off, Yes, KDE + Ubuntu is a really good combo [07:26] Kde is both light and feature rich. [07:26] I never heard of openmandriva [07:26] Yes. Good op. System in Ubuntu! Debian based [07:26] That is mandrake distro now renamed openmandriva. [07:27] When I used Linux way back when KDE was a hog. Now its lighter than most other DM's. People still say its heavy until they try it and they're shocked how quick it is. [07:27] I have had Elementary, Manjaro, Zorin OS lite, Mint, KDE Neon, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Linux fx, Pop OS, Ubuntu Budgie, that's it [07:27] It was a French origin district just as suse is German origin [07:27] I never heard of mandrake. [07:27] Used lot in French government offices. [07:28] @Robert K, Kde was never a hog as compared to gnome. [07:29] Gnome hangs my tablet. Kde is better. Xfce is lightest but feature poor. [07:30] Xfce is made richer by distros like MX Linux and Manjaro [07:30] I was admin of mandrake india user group. [07:30] @sammy_v, damnn [07:30] I've tried Feren, Mint with Cinnamon, Mint with Mate, Ubuntu, Ubuntu with Mate, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, MX, Peppermint, Sparky, Pop OS, Bodhi Linux, Fedora...I think that's it. lol [07:31] Seems like most of us mostly stayed in the Ubuntu family [07:31] Omg u have tried so many of them. [07:31] @therealriganb, Nothing wrong if it works for you. [07:32] I like Kubuntu, Ubuntu Mate and Mint the best. [07:33] Zorin was good but a little slow with my heardware. Pop I liked but had issues with the store. [07:36] I liked Solus, its fast, but its it's own distro, so if it doesn't have an app you need you're stuck. [07:38] @Robert K, To be honest, I didn't ever like the GUI of Zorin, I know it's there for windows users to have an easy switch, but I'd still say Kubuntu and Linux Mint are better choices [07:38] @Robert K, I am thinking of trying it, will check the repos beforehand, since I don't have much uses anyway [07:39] That's why I'm using Kubuntu :) They have their own repos. [07:39] And I'm about to try MX now [07:40] Which, Xfce or KDE? [07:40] The thing about MX is the KDE version only used KDE 5.17 so it was older. [07:41] If you look in their software center you can install a bunch of DE's. They also use Debian repos and Flatpack. [07:43] If you want snaps you have to reboot and in Grub there is a (I think its called advanced) and it lets you login with systemd. [07:44] @Robert K, Xfce one [07:44] both [07:44] Oh ok [07:44] Misread [07:44] Ik [07:44] I don't remember which version of Xfce it used. [07:45] @Robert K, No tbh I don't like desktop environment hopping, cause it makes the system feel bloated with duplicate software [07:45] I'll better set up dual boots with external hard drives [07:45] You can also delete the ones you don't like. [07:46] But you're right [07:46] @Robert K, Yess but that sometimes causes issues with particular DE's, previously when I installed KDE on Pop it worked really well out of the box, but since the last 2 times it's giving me nightmares [07:47] I used Mint with Cinnamon and then installed Mate and it didn't run as well when I downloaded it with just Mate plus it didn't have a few things. [07:48] With Gnome there is a WM called Material Shell that's I hear is really nice. I saw some videos of it and its cool. [07:49] @Robert K, I have seen Titus talk about it briefly too [07:49] Chris Titus Tech, the youtuber [07:51] I've heard of him. I think I saw his video with it and Tyler [07:51] His channels are among my fav ones for Linux [07:52] Yeah, but Chris Titus looks like a guy I knew that I stopped being friends. [07:53] @Robert K, Big oof 😂 [07:53] lol [07:53] But he does have good content. [08:48] Hi everybody! I am trying to share a folder on the local linux network with a local windows computer using samba .... the windows computers on the network do not see it. [09:00] Hey eeos. Wish I could help but never used Samba. Have you checked YouTube and Google? [09:08] Yes, I did .... this is my last resort. [09:23] Brooo wait [09:24] You tried nitroshare? Idk what samba is but seems like your work would happily be done with software like nitroshare [09:35] thank you! I will go back and try with nitroshare === leonid is now known as nikto [10:07] hi [11:26] Hi all === patrick_ is now known as e-patrick [13:12] Hello everyone [13:13] it's osman from turkey * istanbul [13:13] i have some questions for kubuntu before installation [13:13] can i ask some technical questions to anyone ? [13:14] @everyone [13:14] hello ?? [13:16] icerulez, good ahead and ask :-) [13:16] oh finally [13:16] thank u [13:16] i'm using lenovo e595 thinkpad which has ryzen 5 3500U and vega 8 graphics embedded. [13:16] will i have any problems about that ? [13:16] i mean graphic driver [13:17] and my trakpad can dedect multifinger touch and i'm currently using it like sweep with 3 fingertips etc [13:17] can i use it on kubuntu like i do on win 10 [13:30] icerulez, it's been a while since I last used kubuntu on a notebook, but I remember being impressed with what was possible. [13:30] What about dowloading the current version and insted of installing it directly, have a look at the live system? [13:31] This will not modify anythin on your PC, so you can easily return to what you have now by just rebooting. [13:32] And you can see how well your graphics chip is supported and what the trakpad does (or does not. === kubuntu is now known as Guest26880 [13:36] icerulez, did you see my last few lines about trying the live system? Just noted that you were disconnected. [13:37] yeah i have to restart i just overclocked my display 60 hz to 64 [13:37] i couldn't see your lines am sorry [13:37] i think im missed [13:37] OK, here you go: What about dowloading the current version and insted of installing it directly, have a look at the live system? [13:37] This will not modify anythin on your PC, so you can easily return to what you have now by just rebooting. [13:38] And you can see how well your graphics chip is supported and what the trakpad does (or does not. [13:39] hmm should i install virtual machine for that ? [13:39] or can i try it with flash driver without installation ? [13:39] I'd rather not, because you want to see how kubuntu interacts with your hardware and not with the virtual machine. [13:40] hmm [13:40] so how can i try this [13:40] without installation ? [13:40] If you boot from the installation media, you will have choice between "install kubuntu" and "try kubuntu". [13:40] oh perfect [13:41] but when i click try kubuntu will it loads all drivers? [13:42] Well, at least the stock kubuntu drivers. There may be binary drivers from the hardware manufacturers which are not included on the installation media. [13:42] :((( [13:42] i remember 3-4 years ago i try linux distros side to my windows [13:42] if i get some error i switch to windows and delete the linux completely [13:42] So what you get in the live system is the "worst case" - things may become better after installing and downloading proprietary drivers, but not worse. [13:43] i think i were used easy bcd software [13:43] so i just want to do this actually [13:43] @sammy_v, That's pretty cool [13:43] try few distros and if it's good it will keep going [13:43] i were thinking kde neon or kubuntu but kubuntu looks more stable [13:43] i'm not pro [13:44] Yes, if you feel more comfortable with it, then this is the right way for you. I always felt the live systems are more secure and easy to use because they do not change anything on my PC. [13:44] If one is OK at first glance, I'd try installing it side by side. [13:45] Sorry, got to go now... [13:48] oh thank u very much [13:51] AndyKG was added by: AndyKG [13:53] Hello everyone [13:53] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/6xqx0DTq/file_37279.jpg Was using my laptop with Kubuntu absolutely perfectly then it suddenly became sluggish so I closed everything running and rebooted now this. [13:54] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FCcyk6yf/file_37280.jpg [14:09] @AndyKG, Try booting default kernel or recovery kernel option in grub bootloader. [14:10] Remove any external USB drives when rebooting. [14:11] Once you have successfully rebooted, edit grub settings to "not search for new os during each boot". [14:12] @sammy_v, Thanks but I fixed it by booting the USB installer and running "check" on my system partition from kde partition manager. [14:13] Lastly perform file system check. [14:15] Also you can unselect removable drive automount on boot option in settings. [15:41] hi [15:43] what is the mean iso and DD file mean ? [15:43] now i downloaded kubuntu iso and writing that to my flash [15:43] it says something like this [15:44] Helloo👋🏼 [15:44] I have Kubuntu 20.04 and 3 Thunderbolt port but they didn't work [15:45] wow :( [15:45] that's bad news for u [15:45] I open the app thunderbolt but they saw nothing [15:45] I found nothing on internet except it's maybe in the bios [15:46] So I'm actually in the bios and search for help please :) [15:48] If someone here know how to fix that aha [16:01] @user|17674, Maybe you must choose usb to boot first [17:15] Hello everyone [17:16] wondering if someone can help me understand a strange behaviour on my KDE when searchig file and getting list of the same file [17:35] Are you searching through Dolphin or Krunner? List of same file? I don't think that's ever happened to me. [17:56] Abella McQueen was added by: Abella McQueen [18:23] SharGen19 was added by: SharGen19 === ciro is now known as ciro_ [18:41] ? [19:18] Hi I just installed kubuntu on a tablet and was hoping there were gestures for the touchscreen? like regular finger scrolling in webbrowser instead of having to pinpoint down on the scrollbar [19:19] Does this exist? thanks a lot! [19:38] shepherd_: I have a touchscreen laptop and I think that depends on the application [19:38] usually scrolling works well [19:38] unsure about tablets tho [19:40] Hmm, the touch precision is great, but its not reacting when I try any sort of gestures. im looking through settings and doing some googling [20:03] I'm trying to find a way to totally disable the touch screen on my laptop, but only settings I found were some kind of gesture settings :) [20:05] It's single touch, thats why double finger scrolling and whatnot are not supported on my tablet. [20:07] So...is anybody from developers here? [20:08] First I'm glad to say that the software manager was fixed...thanks! Now the Discover is ok. [20:08] But the next problem is the PalyonLinux [20:09] ...if I started it after few seconds 5-7 sec the system freezing...and goes out...nothing happend...u know it's looks like it's off [20:10] I'm very sad...I can't test the playOnLinux now...;(( [20:10] Why it's happend I don't know...Wine started but in CMD mode...only. [20:12] ...so, let's go back to PonL(play on Linux)...if u try to scroll the software list(doesn't matter what category) it's freezing...and after 5 sec KUbuntu freezing too [20:12] ... please check it and fix that bug. Thanks [20:29] @GalantGTR -- what is the bug number [20:29] IRC is not the place to report bugs btw [20:30] I can't report the bug because the system freezed [20:30] easiest way to report: in the commandline `ubuntu-bug play-on-linux` [20:30] Keyboard is out mouse is out too [20:30] you can't get to a term? [20:30] ah [20:31] well, you'll have to hunt for play-on-linux on launchpad to report [20:31] bummer [20:31] That's look like it's completely out...just freeze and finish [20:31] or report it after restart and then dig out the files the devels ask for [20:32] I'm saying report it NOW [20:32] How to report it when I started the system again?? [20:32] easiest way to report: in the commandline `ubuntu-bug play-on-linux` [20:32] you have a chance to tell about the problem [20:32] in the actual bug report [20:33] Wait...in the Konsole? Just type that??? [20:35] copy paste, yes [20:35] without the ticks [20:35]