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callmepkgood morning00:51
dufluMorning callmepk 01:23
callmepkmorning duflu 01:31
jibelGood morning 04:58
dufluMorning jibel 05:10
luna_morning05:11
dufluHi luna_ 05:11
jibelHi duflu 05:13
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:17
dufluMorning oSoMoN 06:19
oSoMoNhey duflu 06:26
didrocksgood morning07:03
dufluMorning didrocks 07:30
didrockshey duflu 07:35
seb128goood morning desktopers07:47
dufluMorning seb128 07:48
seb128hey duflu , how are you?07:48
dufluseb128, Improving. Nearing 20 hours with a sinus headache but getting better. You?07:49
seb128:(07:49
seb128I'm alright, a bit tired as usual07:49
dufluI should try to chart these against air pressure changes07:49
didrockssalut seb128 !07:50
seb128didrocks, lut, ça va ?07:50
didrocksça va, et toi, à part la fatigue ?07:54
seb128ça va oui :)07:55
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, seb128 08:00
didrockssalut oSoMoN 08:00
seb128lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ? ton oeil est retapé ?08:01
oSoMoNseb128, oui, il est comme neuf!08:02
seb128bonne nouvelle :-)08:02
oSoMoNj’en ai été quitte pour une bonne frayeur08:02
Laneyyo08:05
oSoMoNyo Laney 08:06
didrockshey Laney 08:08
Laneyhey oSoMoN and didrocks!08:09
Laneyhappy thursday08:09
oSoMoNhappy Thor's Day08:10
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:10
Laneywhat up seb128 08:13
LaneyI just went outside in the rain to get some water to give to the plants inside08:13
Laneyso ... quite wet08:13
Laneyand tired, was up late hacking on cdimage08:13
Laneybut if you have a raspberry pi, you can try the results of this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-preinstalled/current/08:14
seb128I managed to mostly avoid the rain this morning \o/ but tired as well08:14
seb128nice one08:14
* seb128 needs to get a raspberry to play with at some point08:14
Laneyyes indeed08:18
seb128we have dynamic wallpapers now?08:20
dufluseb128, depends what you mean by dynamic. In Settings > Background you can choose auto-changing wallpapers as the one(s) with the clock icon on them08:27
dufluHi oSoMoN and Laney08:27
seb128duflu, I was reading a french review of 20.10 beta and it claims that we have now 'dynamic wallpapers on the forest theme' preinstalled08:28
duflu??08:28
seb128which I didn't know about/don't see here08:29
seb128right08:29
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers08:30
oSoMoNthat reviewer probably installed a separate wallpaper pack and didn't remember it?08:30
oSoMoNmorning marcustomlinson 08:30
Laneyhey duflu marcustomlinson 08:31
dufluHi marcustomlinson 08:31
LaneyI bet they saw the forest one (wink @ oSoMoN) with the clock icon and guessed what it does08:32
dufluMaybe they only saw it change between forests08:32
seb128I was wondering that08:32
dufluwhich is an interesting idea08:33
dufluyou could timelapse the same scene08:33
bendman_oy, speaking of wallpaper, has anyone considered making the login screen wallpaper higher resolution for high dpi displays? it looks a bit jank on a modern laptop08:33
seb128the article is not very nice, I'm a bit disappointed08:34
marcustomlinsonhey oSoMoN Laney duflu08:34
seb128they basically are saying that we don't innovate much and a 'resting' compared to other distributions08:34
seb128like nothing fancy in 20.10, just software updates08:34
seb128which I guess is somewhat true...08:34
seb128(they do mention new GNOME and AD integration in ubiquity)08:35
marcustomlinsonIt’s a non-LTS they can chill08:35
duflubendman_, the login screen is a single blank colour so it should scale to high DPI perfectly :)08:35
bendman_duflu: hm... I had a grainy ubuntu logo in the bottom middle, at least when I first booted after the install. is that a different layer?08:36
* duflu checks another machine08:36
duflubendman_, oh that's not the wallpaper. It's a separate logo. Are you saying it doesn't upscale nicely?08:38
dufluI can't tell because my 4K monitor gets scale 1.0 on the login screen for some reason08:38
bendman_duflu: yup, it was a good size, but looked grainy on a high-DPI screen. I'd link a screenshot or something but I'm on a different machine08:40
dufluAlso we get that logo from plymouth where it's used in the boot animation. I'm not sure plymouth can handle downscaling if we give it something bigger08:40
dufluWe could give the login screen a higher resolution version of the same logo but I am still not sure what problem you are seeing08:41
duflubendman_, please take a photo of the issue and attach it to a new bug, created by running 'ubuntu-bug gnome-shell'08:43
seb128marcustomlinson, right, which I think is part of why they are surprised. Traditionally the LTS cycle is conservative and changes start happening after the LTS is out at the beginning of the next LTS cycle 08:45
bendman_duflu: will do, thanks :)08:45
Laneyseb128: push a switch to wayland now, that'll do it08:47
seb128Laney, right, they explicitly mention that compared to e.g fedora no brtfs or wayland adoption in Ubuntu :p08:48
Laneyheh08:49
Laneynext cycle ... 👍08:49
LaneyWHY08:49
Laneythat actually seems like a bug wtf08:49
Laney👎08:49
Laneythere's some error in selecting the emojis from the search provider08:49
Laney😱 <- that should have been "face screaming in fear"08:50
dufluIt is, from this angle08:51
Laneyit's "astonished face"08:51
Laney😰08:51
Laneythere's an off by one error08:52
* Laney looks a bit08:52
Laneypoor gnome-characters, it looks a bit dead08:54
seb128Laney, I wonder if the issue is your IRC client because the smiley are right here08:56
duflu+108:56
seb128already yesterday, you said you used the wrong one but it was the right one afaik08:56
Laneyyeah I was checking, they are right when pasted into gedit08:56
seb128like your next cycle one is a thumb up08:56
Laneyit's like vte or tilix though08:57
seb128which I think is what you intended08:57
Laneysomeone else paste an emoji please?08:57
Laneyjust paste one of those back to me08:57
seb128👍08:58
seb128thumb up one08:58
Laneyhttps://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/bork.png09:00
Laneyit's right in gnome-terminal which is also vte09:00
seb128Laney, https://people.canonical.com/~seb128/laney.png09:01
Laneyfixed after restarting tilix09:01
seb128ah09:01
Laney🙄09:01
seb128weird one09:01
Laneyquality software™09:01
* Laney channels mclasen09:01
LaneyoSoMoN: did you want to do the honours for tepl/gedit/plugins?10:11
oSoMoNoh, right, I forgot I can upload gedit10:12
oSoMoNlooks like I can upload tepl too, but not gedit-plugins10:12
Laneyah ok, I can sync that one10:13
oSoMoNLaney, how do I sync a package that's still in NEW ?10:17
LaneyoSoMoN: you can't, you'll have to rebuild the source package, add '~fakesync' or similar to the version and upload it normally10:25
oSoMoNLaney, ack, so we don't want to wait for it to be accepted in Debian?10:27
LaneyI guess we might if there were more time before the release :(10:27
oSoMoNok10:29
oSoMoNI'll upload the rebuilt package then10:30
LaneyNEW processing is a bit of an unknown quantity in Debian, so we will often have to re-upload to Ubuntu and then sync back over10:31
Laneyhttps://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html10:31
LaneyI don't envy those guys, it's a difficult/boring job10:31
Laneygood to see jbicha wake up and find the sync button again :>10:40
oSoMoNLaney, so "5.0.0-1fakesync1" would be the right version number?10:41
oSoMoNnevermind, you already wrote what the suffix should be…10:42
Laneyyeah ~ makes it lower so the real one can be synced over10:43
oSoMoNnow I get "Error connecting to remote host" when dputting to ubuntu10:45
oSoMoNI experienced the same problem last week for about a day, then it was gone and I could upload again10:45
oSoMoNis it just me?10:45
oSoMoNah, now it worked10:46
oSoMoNtransitory problem I guess10:46
oSoMoNLaney, done fakesyncing tepl and syncing gedit10:48
Laney🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘10:49
GunnarHjHi seb128! gnome-software was just built, and this was a surprise:11:58
GunnarHjhttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/gnome-software/+imports11:58
GunnarHji.e. the .po files were not imported. The reason may be that it's set to share translations with snap-store-desktop. Usually we solve that kind of things by deleting such share links, but in this case that's probably not advisable...11:58
GunnarHjAny thoughts on how it should be set up?11:58
seb128GunnarHj, hey, opt out of langpacks and just ship the upstream translations with the software?11:59
GunnarHjseb128: Yeah, that's one thought. But then we break the attempt to share translations between the two projects. Or maybe that has never worked as intended anyway?12:01
seb128I don't think that we ever properly figured that out, see the bug I mentioned recently12:07
seb128we need to figure out how to properly handle snap store translations12:08
seb128that's probably just by merge the upstream .po back to the vcs with msgmerge or something12:08
GunnarHjseb128: Upstream's translation updates seem to be fetched into snap-store trunk (but they are a bit old ATM).12:12
GunnarHjseb128: I'm thinking that if we opt out of langpacks, we could as well drop the translation template for the gnome-software package.12:13
seb128right12:13
seb128or if we don't rely on sharing just untick the sharing box and keep langpacks...12:14
GunnarHjseb128: Right, that's the other way.. Probably better. Can you do that? (I don't have access to do it.)12:14
seb128GunnarHj, you don't have access to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/gnome-software/+sharing-details ?12:16
GunnarHjseb128: Yes, but my previous attempts to change something used to fail.12:16
seb128try clicking the red minus?12:16
seb128if it fails I can do it but it should work...12:17
GunnarHjseb128: Just did. Let's see if it's persistent... Will upload a no-change rebuild then.12:18
seb128it seems to have worked, at least from a page refresh, thanks12:18
GunnarHjnp12:19
hellsworthgood morning desktopers13:26
hellsworthmarcustomlinson: would you please upload the 7.0.2~rc2 LO that is in https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/lo-dummy-repo-113:26
hellsworthricotz: approved13:26
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 13:38
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: can do, have you tested manually?13:40
marcustomlinsonand I assume autopkgtests are good13:43
marcustomlinsonschool run bbiab13:49
hellsworthmarcustomlinson: yes i tested manually and all autopkgtests passed13:52
hellswortho/ oSoMoN marcustomlinson :)13:52
hellsworthamurray: emitorino could one of you please do a manual review on the libreoffice snap with lzo : https://dashboard.snapcraft.io/snaps/libreoffice/revisions/193/14:52
emitorinoyes hellsworth ! BTW, the review-tools are already updated to support lzo, and the store is pulling the updates15:14
hellsworthah ok great thanks :)15:15
emitorinoyou are welcome!15:15
emitorinoapproved hellsworth !15:18
hellsworththanks!15:26
hellsworthi just noticed that the snap is actually way larger with lzo, by almost 200Mb...15:28
hellsworthi'll go investigate15:28
hellsworthnevermind. to be expected :)15:30
ricotzseb128, Wimpress, hi, nv-codec-headers 9.1.23.1-0ubuntu1 looks a bit broken when files are installed to /debian/libffmpeg-nvenc-dev/usr/20:24

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