[00:51] <callmepk> good morning
[01:23] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[01:31] <callmepk> morning duflu 
[04:58] <jibel> Good morning 
[05:10] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[05:11] <luna_> morning
[05:11] <duflu> Hi luna_ 
[05:13] <jibel> Hi duflu 
[06:17] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:19] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN 
[06:26] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[07:03] <didrocks> good morning
[07:30] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[07:35] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[07:47] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:48] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[07:48] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you?
[07:49] <duflu> seb128, Improving. Nearing 20 hours with a sinus headache but getting better. You?
[07:49] <seb128> :(
[07:49] <seb128> I'm alright, a bit tired as usual
[07:49] <duflu> I should try to chart these against air pressure changes
[07:50] <didrocks> salut seb128 !
[07:50] <seb128> didrocks, lut, ça va ?
[07:54] <didrocks> ça va, et toi, à part la fatigue ?
[07:55] <seb128> ça va oui :)
[08:00] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, seb128 
[08:00] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[08:01] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ? ton oeil est retapé ?
[08:02] <oSoMoN> seb128, oui, il est comme neuf!
[08:02] <seb128> bonne nouvelle :-)
[08:02] <oSoMoN> j’en ai été quitte pour une bonne frayeur
[08:05] <Laney> yo
[08:06] <oSoMoN> yo Laney 
[08:08] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:09] <Laney> hey oSoMoN and didrocks!
[08:09] <Laney> happy thursday
[08:10] <oSoMoN> happy Thor's Day
[08:10] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:13] <Laney> what up seb128 
[08:13] <Laney> I just went outside in the rain to get some water to give to the plants inside
[08:13] <Laney> so ... quite wet
[08:13] <Laney> and tired, was up late hacking on cdimage
[08:14] <Laney> but if you have a raspberry pi, you can try the results of this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-preinstalled/current/
[08:14] <seb128> I managed to mostly avoid the rain this morning \o/ but tired as well
[08:14] <seb128> nice one
[08:14]  * seb128 needs to get a raspberry to play with at some point
[08:18] <Laney> yes indeed
[08:20] <seb128> we have dynamic wallpapers now?
[08:27] <duflu> seb128, depends what you mean by dynamic. In Settings > Background you can choose auto-changing wallpapers as the one(s) with the clock icon on them
[08:27] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and Laney
[08:28] <seb128> duflu, I was reading a french review of 20.10 beta and it claims that we have now 'dynamic wallpapers on the forest theme' preinstalled
[08:28] <duflu> ??
[08:29] <seb128> which I didn't know about/don't see here
[08:29] <seb128> right
[08:30] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[08:30] <oSoMoN> that reviewer probably installed a separate wallpaper pack and didn't remember it?
[08:30] <oSoMoN> morning marcustomlinson 
[08:31] <Laney> hey duflu marcustomlinson 
[08:31] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[08:32] <Laney> I bet they saw the forest one (wink @ oSoMoN) with the clock icon and guessed what it does
[08:32] <duflu> Maybe they only saw it change between forests
[08:32] <seb128> I was wondering that
[08:33] <duflu> which is an interesting idea
[08:33] <duflu> you could timelapse the same scene
[08:33] <bendman_> oy, speaking of wallpaper, has anyone considered making the login screen wallpaper higher resolution for high dpi displays? it looks a bit jank on a modern laptop
[08:34] <seb128> the article is not very nice, I'm a bit disappointed
[08:34] <marcustomlinson> hey oSoMoN Laney duflu
[08:34] <seb128> they basically are saying that we don't innovate much and a 'resting' compared to other distributions
[08:34] <seb128> like nothing fancy in 20.10, just software updates
[08:34] <seb128> which I guess is somewhat true...
[08:35] <seb128> (they do mention new GNOME and AD integration in ubiquity)
[08:35] <marcustomlinson> It’s a non-LTS they can chill
[08:35] <duflu> bendman_, the login screen is a single blank colour so it should scale to high DPI perfectly :)
[08:36] <bendman_> duflu: hm... I had a grainy ubuntu logo in the bottom middle, at least when I first booted after the install. is that a different layer?
[08:36]  * duflu checks another machine
[08:38] <duflu> bendman_, oh that's not the wallpaper. It's a separate logo. Are you saying it doesn't upscale nicely?
[08:38] <duflu> I can't tell because my 4K monitor gets scale 1.0 on the login screen for some reason
[08:40] <bendman_> duflu: yup, it was a good size, but looked grainy on a high-DPI screen. I'd link a screenshot or something but I'm on a different machine
[08:40] <duflu> Also we get that logo from plymouth where it's used in the boot animation. I'm not sure plymouth can handle downscaling if we give it something bigger
[08:41] <duflu> We could give the login screen a higher resolution version of the same logo but I am still not sure what problem you are seeing
[08:43] <duflu> bendman_, please take a photo of the issue and attach it to a new bug, created by running 'ubuntu-bug gnome-shell'
[08:45] <seb128> marcustomlinson, right, which I think is part of why they are surprised. Traditionally the LTS cycle is conservative and changes start happening after the LTS is out at the beginning of the next LTS cycle 
[08:45] <bendman_> duflu: will do, thanks :)
[08:47] <Laney> seb128: push a switch to wayland now, that'll do it
[08:48] <seb128> Laney, right, they explicitly mention that compared to e.g fedora no brtfs or wayland adoption in Ubuntu :p
[08:49] <Laney> heh
[08:49] <Laney> next cycle ... 👍
[08:49] <Laney> WHY
[08:49] <Laney> that actually seems like a bug wtf
[08:49] <Laney> 👎
[08:49] <Laney> there's some error in selecting the emojis from the search provider
[08:50] <Laney> 😱 <- that should have been "face screaming in fear"
[08:51] <duflu> It is, from this angle
[08:51] <Laney> it's "astonished face"
[08:51] <Laney> 😰
[08:52] <Laney> there's an off by one error
[08:52]  * Laney looks a bit
[08:54] <Laney> poor gnome-characters, it looks a bit dead
[08:56] <seb128> Laney, I wonder if the issue is your IRC client because the smiley are right here
[08:56] <duflu> +1
[08:56] <seb128> already yesterday, you said you used the wrong one but it was the right one afaik
[08:56] <Laney> yeah I was checking, they are right when pasted into gedit
[08:56] <seb128> like your next cycle one is a thumb up
[08:57] <Laney> it's like vte or tilix though
[08:57] <seb128> which I think is what you intended
[08:57] <Laney> someone else paste an emoji please?
[08:57] <Laney> just paste one of those back to me
[08:58] <seb128> 👍
[08:58] <seb128> thumb up one
[09:00] <Laney> https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/bork.png
[09:00] <Laney> it's right in gnome-terminal which is also vte
[09:01] <seb128> Laney, https://people.canonical.com/~seb128/laney.png
[09:01] <Laney> fixed after restarting tilix
[09:01] <seb128> ah
[09:01] <Laney> 🙄
[09:01] <seb128> weird one
[09:01] <Laney> quality software™
[09:01]  * Laney channels mclasen
[10:11] <Laney> oSoMoN: did you want to do the honours for tepl/gedit/plugins?
[10:12] <oSoMoN> oh, right, I forgot I can upload gedit
[10:12] <oSoMoN> looks like I can upload tepl too, but not gedit-plugins
[10:13] <Laney> ah ok, I can sync that one
[10:17] <oSoMoN> Laney, how do I sync a package that's still in NEW ?
[10:25] <Laney> oSoMoN: you can't, you'll have to rebuild the source package, add '~fakesync' or similar to the version and upload it normally
[10:27] <oSoMoN> Laney, ack, so we don't want to wait for it to be accepted in Debian?
[10:27] <Laney> I guess we might if there were more time before the release :(
[10:29] <oSoMoN> ok
[10:30] <oSoMoN> I'll upload the rebuilt package then
[10:31] <Laney> NEW processing is a bit of an unknown quantity in Debian, so we will often have to re-upload to Ubuntu and then sync back over
[10:31] <Laney> https://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html
[10:31] <Laney> I don't envy those guys, it's a difficult/boring job
[10:40] <Laney> good to see jbicha wake up and find the sync button again :>
[10:41] <oSoMoN> Laney, so "5.0.0-1fakesync1" would be the right version number?
[10:42] <oSoMoN> nevermind, you already wrote what the suffix should be…
[10:43] <Laney> yeah ~ makes it lower so the real one can be synced over
[10:45] <oSoMoN> now I get "Error connecting to remote host" when dputting to ubuntu
[10:45] <oSoMoN> I experienced the same problem last week for about a day, then it was gone and I could upload again
[10:45] <oSoMoN> is it just me?
[10:46] <oSoMoN> ah, now it worked
[10:46] <oSoMoN> transitory problem I guess
[10:48] <oSoMoN> Laney, done fakesyncing tepl and syncing gedit
[10:49] <Laney> 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
[11:58] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128! gnome-software was just built, and this was a surprise:
[11:58] <GunnarHj> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/gnome-software/+imports
[11:58] <GunnarHj> i.e. the .po files were not imported. The reason may be that it's set to share translations with snap-store-desktop. Usually we solve that kind of things by deleting such share links, but in this case that's probably not advisable...
[11:58] <GunnarHj> Any thoughts on how it should be set up?
[11:59] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, opt out of langpacks and just ship the upstream translations with the software?
[12:01] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yeah, that's one thought. But then we break the attempt to share translations between the two projects. Or maybe that has never worked as intended anyway?
[12:07] <seb128> I don't think that we ever properly figured that out, see the bug I mentioned recently
[12:08] <seb128> we need to figure out how to properly handle snap store translations
[12:08] <seb128> that's probably just by merge the upstream .po back to the vcs with msgmerge or something
[12:12] <GunnarHj> seb128: Upstream's translation updates seem to be fetched into snap-store trunk (but they are a bit old ATM).
[12:13] <GunnarHj> seb128: I'm thinking that if we opt out of langpacks, we could as well drop the translation template for the gnome-software package.
[12:13] <seb128> right
[12:14] <seb128> or if we don't rely on sharing just untick the sharing box and keep langpacks...
[12:14] <GunnarHj> seb128: Right, that's the other way.. Probably better. Can you do that? (I don't have access to do it.)
[12:16] <seb128> GunnarHj, you don't have access to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/gnome-software/+sharing-details ?
[12:16] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yes, but my previous attempts to change something used to fail.
[12:16] <seb128> try clicking the red minus?
[12:17] <seb128> if it fails I can do it but it should work...
[12:18] <GunnarHj> seb128: Just did. Let's see if it's persistent... Will upload a no-change rebuild then.
[12:18] <seb128> it seems to have worked, at least from a page refresh, thanks
[12:19] <GunnarHj> np
[13:26] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[13:26] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson: would you please upload the 7.0.2~rc2 LO that is in https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/lo-dummy-repo-1
[13:26] <hellsworth> ricotz: approved
[13:38] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[13:40] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: can do, have you tested manually?
[13:43] <marcustomlinson> and I assume autopkgtests are good
[13:49] <marcustomlinson> school run bbiab
[13:52] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson: yes i tested manually and all autopkgtests passed
[13:52] <hellsworth> o/ oSoMoN marcustomlinson :)
[14:52] <hellsworth> amurray: emitorino could one of you please do a manual review on the libreoffice snap with lzo : https://dashboard.snapcraft.io/snaps/libreoffice/revisions/193/
[15:14] <emitorino> yes hellsworth ! BTW, the review-tools are already updated to support lzo, and the store is pulling the updates
[15:15] <hellsworth> ah ok great thanks :)
[15:15] <emitorino> you are welcome!
[15:18] <emitorino> approved hellsworth !
[15:26] <hellsworth> thanks!
[15:28] <hellsworth> i just noticed that the snap is actually way larger with lzo, by almost 200Mb...
[15:28] <hellsworth> i'll go investigate
[15:30] <hellsworth> nevermind. to be expected :)
[20:24] <ricotz> seb128, Wimpress, hi, nv-codec-headers 9.1.23.1-0ubuntu1 looks a bit broken when files are installed to /debian/libffmpeg-nvenc-dev/usr/