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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:01
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bdmurray#topic Lightning Round15:01
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bdmurrayecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)15:01
bdmurrayslyon vorlon infinity xnox doko rbalint sil2100 bdmurray mwhudson tdaitx waveform juliank15:02
bdmurrayslyon:15:02
slyon- NAVEX ...15:02
slyon- setting up a virtual MAAS system15:02
slyon- learning how to use MAAS & curtin15:02
slyon=== Netplan ===15:02
slyon- Many netplan & NM related meetings15:02
slyon- Some handholding for the 0.100 Focal SRU15:02
slyon- Reproducing MAAS/OVS/PXE issue15:02
slyon  * reported as bug #189899715:02
slyon  * debugging systemd/netplan/cloud-init integration15:02
slyon(done)15:02
ubottubug 1898997 in netplan "MAAS cannot deploy/boot if OVS bridge is configured on a single PXE NIC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189899715:02
bdmurrayvorlon:15:02
vorlon- roadmap sprint week, lots of discussion sessions and watching roadmaps15:02
vorlon- working on the remaining regressions in groovy bootability per LP: #1886148; no luck so far on the Lenovo V-series, so will escalate to OEM team15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1886148 in Ubuntu CD Images "failure to boot groovy daily" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188614815:03
vorlon- misc release, proposed-migration work15:03
vorlon(done)15:03
bdmurrayxnox:15:03
xnox   roadmap sprint15:03
xnoxdone15:03
xnoxfixing a few things here and there15:03
bdmurraydoko:15:04
bdmurraysil2100:15:05
sil2100What about rbalint?15:05
bdmurrayokay let's let him go15:05
bdmurrayrbalint:15:05
rbalint(short week due to holidays)15:05
rbalint* testing and discussions around LP: #187126815:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1871268 in apt (Ubuntu) "Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187126815:05
rbalint* partner work15:06
rbalint* fixed rpcsvc-proto to break/replace libc-dev-bin, but not break upgrades to groovy :-)15:06
rbalint* +1 maintenance15:06
rbalint(done)15:06
bdmurraysil2100:15:06
sil2100- Finalized groovy beta15:06
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:06
sil2100- Queue reviews for groovy15:06
sil2100- Some FFe reviews as well15:06
sil2100- Validated the ubuntu-image 1.10 SRUs15:06
sil2100- Fix up image size limits for some flavors15:06
sil2100- Discussions regarding netplan and the single-source-of-truth concept15:06
sil2100- Looking into the snap promoter script, making it a bit smarter for multi-arches15:06
sil2100- Meeting with HWE15:06
sil2100- Pi desktop work:15:06
sil2100  * Finished up livecd-rootfs changes for pi desktop support15:06
sil2100  * Ran a few test builds on a livefs builder, debugged some weird issues with EXTRA_PPAS, filled bug15:06
sil2100  * Released livecd-rootfs to groovy, reviewed other needed packages prepared by Iain15:06
sil2100  * Various related reviews15:06
sil2100  * Prepared cdimage and isotracker changes to support the new image on the isotracker15:06
sil2100- Prepared release tracking thread on discourse for 20.10, experimented with syntax15:07
sil2100- Toolchain update releases15:07
sil2100- Tried reproducing LP: #1875062 without any success, asked reporters for a double-check15:07
sil2100- Discussions regarding ubuntu-image customization15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1875062 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[20.04] Keyboard layout not enabled immediately during installation when typing username/password" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187506215:07
sil2100- Discussed and updated google-cloud-sdk in xenial partner-proposed, waiting for further testing15:07
sil2100(done)15:07
bdmurraywrote tests cases for LP: #188754415:07
bdmurrayadded test case information to LP: #189586515:07
bdmurraysru verification of the fix for LP: #189586515:07
bdmurrayreview of ubuntu-release-upgrader bug reports15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1887544 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 fails to calculate if python-dbg is installed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188754415:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1895865 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py@59:dump_acpi_tables:dump_acpi_table" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189586515:07
bdmurraydebugged LP: #1898152 then discussed with juliank15:07
bdmurraydiscussed image sizes with flavor leads15:07
bdmurrayshort week out 10/215:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1898152 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrade fails to calculate if gnuradio-dev is intalled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189815215:07
bdmurray✔ done15:08
dokojoining late15:08
bdmurraytdaitx:15:08
tdaitx* packaged openjdk 11.0.9+10 and 8u272-b0915:08
tdaitx  - verified that new test failures were not regressions15:08
tdaitx  - uploaded to groovy15:08
tdaitx* working on pkexec failure for update-notifier (bug 1821412)15:08
tdaitx* netbeans has been basically removed from debian, checking how that affects groovy15:08
ubottubug 1821412 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) ""System program problem" report button does nothing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182141215:08
tdaitxOther:15:08
tdaitx* moved from oh-my-zsh to zprezto, nighly fun getting all working again15:08
tdaitx(done)15:08
bdmurraydoko: ready?15:08
juliank...15:10
bdmurraytdaitx: I installed zsh-syntax-highlighting recently which is neat15:10
doko - tracking down an arm32 GCC issue15:10
doko - python3.9 PPA builds15:10
doko - setting up a machine for TCK testing (openjdk-15)15:10
doko(done)15:10
bdmurraywaveform:15:10
tdaitxbtw, openjdk-lts and openjdk-8 need approval for groovy-proposed, if any brave soul is around15:10
waveform* Changed cronjobs to systemd timers in update-notifier (still needs testing) (LP: #1836475)15:10
waveform* Tweaks to linux-firmware-raspi2 for MIR (many thanks to xnox for assistance on this!) (LP: #1867813)15:10
waveform* Working on FTBFS for numpy15:10
waveform* Investigating port of raspi-config to Ubuntu15:10
waveform* Onboarding meetings15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1836475 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Groovy) "update-notifier-common weekly cron job runs at the same time for all computers across the globe" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183647515:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1867813 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] linux-firmware-raspi2 to restricted" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186781315:10
waveform* Investigating random date/time issue in docker clients on pi (LP: #1896443)15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1896443 in cloud-images "The latest Ubuntu base image for armhf return random values for date/time" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189644315:10
waveform* Fixed several minor boot sequence issues in pi-gadget (classic and desktop branches)15:10
waveform* Other: now working primarily on a pi4 after meltdown of main machine's PSU!15:10
waveform(done)15:11
juliank* went through email backlog from PTO last week15:11
juliank* clicked merge button for some python-apt changes last week including waveform's, but realized I need to do some more python-apt style fixes before it's releasable again, which I'm gonna do ... tomorrow?15:11
juliank* started looking into the OEM kernel switching work from Lany - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/oem/+merge/38942115:11
juliank* did some rudimentary analysis of some upgrade bugs15:11
juliank* started work on LP: #1871268 - came up with https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/merge_requests/133 (second commit)15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1871268 in apt (Ubuntu) "Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187126815:11
juliank(done)15:11
tdaitxbdmurray: yeah, prezto has zsh-syntax-highlighting, it is pretty good =)15:11
bdmurraytdaitx: is zprezto or prezto?15:12
tdaitxbdmurray: prezto, the first was a typo15:12
bdmurrayany questions about status? other than zsh stuff ;-)15:12
* waveform also ditched o-m-z recently though went the zplug route instead ;)15:13
bdmurrayokay, moving on15:13
bdmurray#topic Release Incoming Bugs15:13
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bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:14
bdmurraybug 1890435 - we are still waiting for a reproducer correct?15:14
ubottubug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189043515:14
bdmurraydoko: what is happening upstream there?15:15
dokodude, I just reported that, what do you expect?15:16
bdmurrayI hadn't read enough to understand that you just reported it15:17
bdmurrayI was looking for a brief summary15:17
bdmurraywhich I guess "I just reported that" is15:17
bdmurraylets move on since that's been upstreamed15:18
dokook, I just reported that15:18
bdmurraybug 1898152 I mentioned and the python-dbg / python-dev changes I've already made are insufficient15:18
ubottubug 1898152 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrade fails to calculate if gnuradio-dev is intalled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189815215:18
bdmurrayjuliank: you had some ideas about how to fix that right?15:18
juliankbdmurray: i think you tried that? I've not looked further so far, but yes, I have ideas15:19
bdmurrayjuliank: I tried what I think you meant but I could have done it wrong15:19
bdmurrayLet's card that but if you could provide a patch juliank I'd be happy to test it15:20
juliankanyway should card it15:20
juliankI need to setup a container that reproduces it I suppose15:21
bdmurraybug 1898614 should be incomplete15:21
ubottubug 1898614 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "ubuntu server installer serial console not preserved after update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189861415:21
juliankthough actually, should be fine to just hack /var/lib/dpkg/status since it doesn't get past dep solving :D15:21
bdmurrayOh, that was on rls-ff - my bad15:21
bdmurrayback to gg15:22
bdmurraybug 189744415:22
ubottubug 1897444 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot find and translate the new Active Directory strings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189744415:22
bdmurrayxnox: we talked about the secret things to do last week - I guess its a question of who does them?15:22
bdmurrayI'm pinging the desktop team15:24
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:24
bdmurrayokay, I jumped the gun and already talked about a couple15:24
bdmurraybut there is still bug 189872915:25
ubottubug 1898729 in shim (Ubuntu) "shim can end up being removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189872915:25
juliankcard it15:25
mclemenceauok done15:25
bdmurraygreat15:25
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report15:26
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vorlon[LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:26
vorlonrbalint: anything further to be said on LP: 1891929?15:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1891929 in google-guest-agent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] google-guest-agent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189192915:26
vorlon(google-guest-agent MIR)15:26
rbalintit is waiting for the security team and i've pinged them15:27
vorlonok15:27
vorlonand lintian is also blocked on MIR; rbalint we didn't get a quick ack from the Security Team, are you going to file the MIRs?15:27
rbalinti'll prep the mirs for lintian after my +1 is over15:27
rbalint(tomorrow)15:28
vorlonok15:28
vorlonthen that's all that's currently late/blocked15:28
sil2100\o/15:28
vorlonone newer one worth mentioning though that doesn't look like it's going to fix itself15:28
vorlonbinutils blocked by zlib, doko: have you seen this? it appears to be an actual regression15:29
vorloneh sorry15:29
vorlonother way around15:29
vorlonzlib blocked by binutils15:29
vorlonand it's mwhudson's upload not yours15:29
vorlonso needs looking at but maybe I pester him later today15:29
vorlonotherwise, looks like various autopkgtest failures that might just need retrying or hinting15:30
vorlonnothing really to discuss15:30
vorlonbdmurray: back to you15:30
nae2040https://www.amd.com/en/events/gaming-202015:30
nae204030min15:31
bdmurray#topic FTBFS15:31
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bdmurraynumpy is waveforms15:32
bdmurrayso there are effectively 315:32
bdmurraylibpsl15:32
bdmurraystrace15:32
bdmurrayklibc15:32
rbalintstrace is mine15:32
dokovorlon: please ignore that. it's the same unreproducible compiler issue15:32
dokoor retry15:33
bdmurraydoko: which one strace?15:33
vorlondoko: zlib+binutils? it's been retried once, failed both times. you think it should be retried again?15:34
vorlonwell it is the season to fix libpsl15:34
dokojust ignore.15:34
vorlonthat is lib pumpkin spice latte, right?15:34
bdmurraylol15:34
vorlonwho's volunteering for libpsl and klibc?15:35
sil2100I can take libpsl15:36
slyonI can take klibc15:37
bdmurrayalright so that's the FTBFS15:38
bdmurray#topic AOB15:38
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bdmurrayMonday is a US holiday which I won't be taking15:38
vorlonI will be15:38
bdmurrayNext week is the Groovy RC15:39
bdmurrayAnything else?15:40
bdmurrayOkay, thanks everybody15:42
sil2100o/15:42
bdmurray#endmeeting15:42
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Oct  8 15:42:10 2020 UTC.15:42
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-10-08-15.01.moin.txt15:42
tdaitxmonday is also a holiday here, won't be taking it as well15:42
rbalinti think i'll take Monday, while it is not a holiday here15:44
mwhudsonretrying all the failures triggered by zlib yesterday went from 14 failures to 218:57
mwhudsonso i'll try that again18:57
vorlonay18:58
vorlonyay18:58
vorlonmwhudson: xmobar needs more finesse than just a retry, something in -proposed now makes the test pass where it hasn't for months, wreaking havoc with the force-reset-test.  I think you probably want to try with --all-proposed18:59
mwhudsonvorlon: damn these tests that pass once19:01

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