[15:00] <sil2100> o/
[15:00] <bdmurray> o/
[15:00] <slyon> o/
[15:00] <waveform> o/
[15:00] <rbalint> o/
[15:01] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[15:01] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
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[15:01] <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)
[15:02] <bdmurray> slyon vorlon infinity xnox doko rbalint sil2100 bdmurray mwhudson tdaitx waveform juliank
[15:02] <bdmurray> slyon:
[15:02] <slyon> - NAVEX ...
[15:02] <slyon> - setting up a virtual MAAS system
[15:02] <slyon> - learning how to use MAAS & curtin
[15:02] <slyon> === Netplan ===
[15:02] <slyon> - Many netplan & NM related meetings
[15:02] <slyon> - Some handholding for the 0.100 Focal SRU
[15:02] <slyon> - Reproducing MAAS/OVS/PXE issue
[15:02] <slyon>   * reported as bug #1898997
[15:02] <slyon>   * debugging systemd/netplan/cloud-init integration
[15:02] <slyon> (done)
[15:02] <ubottu> bug 1898997 in netplan "MAAS cannot deploy/boot if OVS bridge is configured on a single PXE NIC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898997
[15:02] <bdmurray> vorlon:
[15:02] <vorlon> - roadmap sprint week, lots of discussion sessions and watching roadmaps
[15:03] <vorlon> - working on the remaining regressions in groovy bootability per LP: #1886148; no luck so far on the Lenovo V-series, so will escalate to OEM team
[15:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1886148 in Ubuntu CD Images "failure to boot groovy daily" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886148
[15:03] <vorlon> - misc release, proposed-migration work
[15:03] <vorlon> (done)
[15:03] <bdmurray> xnox:
[15:03] <xnox>    roadmap sprint
[15:03] <xnox> done
[15:03] <xnox> fixing a few things here and there
[15:04] <bdmurray> doko:
[15:05] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[15:05] <sil2100> What about rbalint?
[15:05] <bdmurray> okay let's let him go
[15:05] <bdmurray> rbalint:
[15:05] <rbalint> (short week due to holidays)
[15:05] <rbalint> * testing and discussions around LP: #1871268
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1871268 in apt (Ubuntu) "Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871268
[15:06] <rbalint> * partner work
[15:06] <rbalint> * fixed rpcsvc-proto to break/replace libc-dev-bin, but not break upgrades to groovy :-)
[15:06] <rbalint> * +1 maintenance
[15:06] <rbalint> (done)
[15:06] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[15:06] <sil2100> - Finalized groovy beta
[15:06] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:06] <sil2100> - Queue reviews for groovy
[15:06] <sil2100> - Some FFe reviews as well
[15:06] <sil2100> - Validated the ubuntu-image 1.10 SRUs
[15:06] <sil2100> - Fix up image size limits for some flavors
[15:06] <sil2100> - Discussions regarding netplan and the single-source-of-truth concept
[15:06] <sil2100> - Looking into the snap promoter script, making it a bit smarter for multi-arches
[15:06] <sil2100> - Meeting with HWE
[15:06] <sil2100> - Pi desktop work:
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Finished up livecd-rootfs changes for pi desktop support
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Ran a few test builds on a livefs builder, debugged some weird issues with EXTRA_PPAS, filled bug
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Released livecd-rootfs to groovy, reviewed other needed packages prepared by Iain
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Various related reviews
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Prepared cdimage and isotracker changes to support the new image on the isotracker
[15:07] <sil2100> - Prepared release tracking thread on discourse for 20.10, experimented with syntax
[15:07] <sil2100> - Toolchain update releases
[15:07] <sil2100> - Tried reproducing LP: #1875062 without any success, asked reporters for a double-check
[15:07] <sil2100> - Discussions regarding ubuntu-image customization
[15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1875062 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[20.04] Keyboard layout not enabled immediately during installation when typing username/password" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1875062
[15:07] <sil2100> - Discussed and updated google-cloud-sdk in xenial partner-proposed, waiting for further testing
[15:07] <sil2100> (done)
[15:07] <bdmurray> wrote tests cases for LP: #1887544
[15:07] <bdmurray> added test case information to LP: #1895865
[15:07] <bdmurray> sru verification of the fix for LP: #1895865
[15:07] <bdmurray> review of ubuntu-release-upgrader bug reports
[15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1887544 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 fails to calculate if python-dbg is installed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887544
[15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1895865 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py@59:dump_acpi_tables:dump_acpi_table" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1895865
[15:07] <bdmurray> debugged LP: #1898152 then discussed with juliank
[15:07] <bdmurray> discussed image sizes with flavor leads
[15:07] <bdmurray> short week out 10/2
[15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1898152 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrade fails to calculate if gnuradio-dev is intalled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898152
[15:08] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:08] <doko> joining late
[15:08] <bdmurray> tdaitx:
[15:08] <tdaitx> * packaged openjdk 11.0.9+10 and 8u272-b09
[15:08] <tdaitx>   - verified that new test failures were not regressions
[15:08] <tdaitx>   - uploaded to groovy
[15:08] <tdaitx> * working on pkexec failure for update-notifier (bug 1821412)
[15:08] <tdaitx> * netbeans has been basically removed from debian, checking how that affects groovy
[15:08] <ubottu> bug 1821412 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) ""System program problem" report button does nothing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821412
[15:08] <tdaitx> Other:
[15:08] <tdaitx> * moved from oh-my-zsh to zprezto, nighly fun getting all working again
[15:08] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:08] <bdmurray> doko: ready?
[15:10] <juliank> ...
[15:10] <bdmurray> tdaitx: I installed zsh-syntax-highlighting recently which is neat
[15:10] <doko>  - tracking down an arm32 GCC issue
[15:10] <doko>  - python3.9 PPA builds
[15:10] <doko>  - setting up a machine for TCK testing (openjdk-15)
[15:10] <doko> (done)
[15:10] <bdmurray> waveform:
[15:10] <tdaitx> btw, openjdk-lts and openjdk-8 need approval for groovy-proposed, if any brave soul is around
[15:10] <waveform> * Changed cronjobs to systemd timers in update-notifier (still needs testing) (LP: #1836475)
[15:10] <waveform> * Tweaks to linux-firmware-raspi2 for MIR (many thanks to xnox for assistance on this!) (LP: #1867813)
[15:10] <waveform> * Working on FTBFS for numpy
[15:10] <waveform> * Investigating port of raspi-config to Ubuntu
[15:10] <waveform> * Onboarding meetings
[15:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1836475 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Groovy) "update-notifier-common weekly cron job runs at the same time for all computers across the globe" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836475
[15:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1867813 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] linux-firmware-raspi2 to restricted" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867813
[15:10] <waveform> * Investigating random date/time issue in docker clients on pi (LP: #1896443)
[15:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1896443 in cloud-images "The latest Ubuntu base image for armhf return random values for date/time" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896443
[15:10] <waveform> * Fixed several minor boot sequence issues in pi-gadget (classic and desktop branches)
[15:10] <waveform> * Other: now working primarily on a pi4 after meltdown of main machine's PSU!
[15:11] <waveform> (done)
[15:11] <juliank> * went through email backlog from PTO last week
[15:11] <juliank> * clicked merge button for some python-apt changes last week including waveform's, but realized I need to do some more python-apt style fixes before it's releasable again, which I'm gonna do ... tomorrow?
[15:11] <juliank> * started looking into the OEM kernel switching work from Lany - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/oem/+merge/389421
[15:11] <juliank> * did some rudimentary analysis of some upgrade bugs
[15:11] <juliank> * started work on LP: #1871268 - came up with https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/merge_requests/133 (second commit)
[15:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1871268 in apt (Ubuntu) "Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871268
[15:11] <juliank> (done)
[15:11] <tdaitx> bdmurray: yeah, prezto has zsh-syntax-highlighting, it is pretty good =)
[15:12] <bdmurray> tdaitx: is zprezto or prezto?
[15:12] <tdaitx> bdmurray: prezto, the first was a typo
[15:12] <bdmurray> any questions about status? other than zsh stuff ;-)
[15:13]  * waveform also ditched o-m-z recently though went the zplug route instead ;)
[15:13] <bdmurray> okay, moving on
[15:13] <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
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[15:14] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:14] <bdmurray> bug 1890435 - we are still waiting for a reproducer correct?
[15:14] <ubottu> bug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890435
[15:15] <bdmurray> doko: what is happening upstream there?
[15:16] <doko> dude, I just reported that, what do you expect?
[15:17] <bdmurray> I hadn't read enough to understand that you just reported it
[15:17] <bdmurray> I was looking for a brief summary
[15:17] <bdmurray> which I guess "I just reported that" is
[15:18] <bdmurray> lets move on since that's been upstreamed
[15:18] <doko> ok, I just reported that
[15:18] <bdmurray> bug 1898152 I mentioned and the python-dbg / python-dev changes I've already made are insufficient
[15:18] <ubottu> bug 1898152 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrade fails to calculate if gnuradio-dev is intalled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898152
[15:18] <bdmurray> juliank: you had some ideas about how to fix that right?
[15:19] <juliank> bdmurray: i think you tried that? I've not looked further so far, but yes, I have ideas
[15:19] <bdmurray> juliank: I tried what I think you meant but I could have done it wrong
[15:20] <bdmurray> Let's card that but if you could provide a patch juliank I'd be happy to test it
[15:20] <juliank> anyway should card it
[15:21] <juliank> I need to setup a container that reproduces it I suppose
[15:21] <bdmurray> bug 1898614 should be incomplete
[15:21] <ubottu> bug 1898614 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "ubuntu server installer serial console not preserved after update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898614
[15:21] <juliank> though actually, should be fine to just hack /var/lib/dpkg/status since it doesn't get past dep solving :D
[15:21] <bdmurray> Oh, that was on rls-ff - my bad
[15:22] <bdmurray> back to gg
[15:22] <bdmurray> bug 1897444
[15:22] <ubottu> bug 1897444 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot find and translate the new Active Directory strings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897444
[15:22] <bdmurray> xnox: we talked about the secret things to do last week - I guess its a question of who does them?
[15:24] <bdmurray> I'm pinging the desktop team
[15:24] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:24] <bdmurray> okay, I jumped the gun and already talked about a couple
[15:25] <bdmurray> but there is still bug 1898729
[15:25] <ubottu> bug 1898729 in shim (Ubuntu) "shim can end up being removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898729
[15:25] <juliank> card it
[15:25] <mclemenceau> ok done
[15:25] <bdmurray> great
[15:26] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
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[15:26] <vorlon> [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:26] <vorlon> rbalint: anything further to be said on LP: 1891929?
[15:26] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1891929 in google-guest-agent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] google-guest-agent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891929
[15:26] <vorlon> (google-guest-agent MIR)
[15:27] <rbalint> it is waiting for the security team and i've pinged them
[15:27] <vorlon> ok
[15:27] <vorlon> and lintian is also blocked on MIR; rbalint we didn't get a quick ack from the Security Team, are you going to file the MIRs?
[15:27] <rbalint> i'll prep the mirs for lintian after my +1 is over
[15:28] <rbalint> (tomorrow)
[15:28] <vorlon> ok
[15:28] <vorlon> then that's all that's currently late/blocked
[15:28] <sil2100> \o/
[15:28] <vorlon> one newer one worth mentioning though that doesn't look like it's going to fix itself
[15:29] <vorlon> binutils blocked by zlib, doko: have you seen this? it appears to be an actual regression
[15:29] <vorlon> eh sorry
[15:29] <vorlon> other way around
[15:29] <vorlon> zlib blocked by binutils
[15:29] <vorlon> and it's mwhudson's upload not yours
[15:29] <vorlon> so needs looking at but maybe I pester him later today
[15:30] <vorlon> otherwise, looks like various autopkgtest failures that might just need retrying or hinting
[15:30] <vorlon> nothing really to discuss
[15:30] <vorlon> bdmurray: back to you
[15:30] <nae2040> https://www.amd.com/en/events/gaming-2020
[15:31] <nae2040> 30min
[15:31] <bdmurray> #topic FTBFS
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[15:32] <bdmurray> numpy is waveforms
[15:32] <bdmurray> so there are effectively 3
[15:32] <bdmurray> libpsl
[15:32] <bdmurray> strace
[15:32] <bdmurray> klibc
[15:32] <rbalint> strace is mine
[15:32] <doko> vorlon: please ignore that. it's the same unreproducible compiler issue
[15:33] <doko> or retry
[15:33] <bdmurray> doko: which one strace?
[15:34] <vorlon> doko: zlib+binutils? it's been retried once, failed both times. you think it should be retried again?
[15:34] <vorlon> well it is the season to fix libpsl
[15:34] <doko> just ignore.
[15:34] <vorlon> that is lib pumpkin spice latte, right?
[15:34] <bdmurray> lol
[15:35] <vorlon> who's volunteering for libpsl and klibc?
[15:36] <sil2100> I can take libpsl
[15:37] <slyon> I can take klibc
[15:38] <bdmurray> alright so that's the FTBFS
[15:38] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
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[15:38] <bdmurray> Monday is a US holiday which I won't be taking
[15:38] <vorlon> I will be
[15:39] <bdmurray> Next week is the Groovy RC
[15:40] <bdmurray> Anything else?
[15:42] <bdmurray> Okay, thanks everybody
[15:42] <sil2100> o/
[15:42] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
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[15:42] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Oct  8 15:42:10 2020 UTC.
[15:42] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-10-08-15.01.moin.txt
[15:42] <tdaitx> monday is also a holiday here, won't be taking it as well
[15:44] <rbalint> i think i'll take Monday, while it is not a holiday here
[18:57] <mwhudson> retrying all the failures triggered by zlib yesterday went from 14 failures to 2
[18:57] <mwhudson> so i'll try that again
[18:58] <vorlon> ay
[18:58] <vorlon> yay
[18:59] <vorlon> mwhudson: xmobar needs more finesse than just a retry, something in -proposed now makes the test pass where it hasn't for months, wreaking havoc with the force-reset-test.  I think you probably want to try with --all-proposed
[19:01] <mwhudson> vorlon: damn these tests that pass once