=== ianychoi__ is now known as ianychoi [00:52] should I be using the same ssh keypair for multiple unrelated servers [00:52] or is it better to have a seperate keypair for each sever [00:54] you probably already know the answer to that [01:00] RoseBus: it's actually quite common to install the same public key on multiple systems for a user to login to. the secret / private key should only be present on a single system or a few systems its 'owner' fully trusts (which are probably systems not shared with others). === Xard3 is now known as Xard [01:20] when i try to export an environmental variable i'm getting a weird error [01:20] it says "bash: !k: event not found" [01:21] oh it has to do with the string I'm trying to create for the variable [01:21] it has a !k in it [01:21] but even when I put it in quotations it still doesn't work [01:22] use single quotes or escape control characters with a backslash [01:24] to get a better understanding of shell scripting do's and don'ts, see the references in the #bash channel /topic === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:09] Greetings. A friend of mine has a thirty two-bit machine. Is Ubuntu dropping the architecture soon? [02:13] The end of 32 bit? Magzter june 2020 : https://www.magzter.com/article/Computer-Mobile/Linux-Format/The-End-Of-32-Bit [02:22] RoseBus: does this work? export rose='text !k moretext'; echo $rose [02:22] yes [02:22] thank you [02:22] i just needed the single quotes [02:22] xbfrog: but not the end of caps in URIs I guess [02:23] KE0VVT: real issue is whether Debian drops it [02:23] KE0VVT: and beyond that, why your friend can't afford to spend $5-60 on a new computer with a well supported arch [02:26] matsaman: I don’t know, but we’ll sort this stuff out when he comes over tomorrow. [02:28] KE0VVT: I have read plain x86 support is discontinued in Ubuntu 20.04 on [02:29] but Debian will likely support it for a very long time [06:47] Hello. [06:47] is it there any way to have a properly working fractional scaling on ubuntu 20.04 gnome? it not seems to work globally but just for some apps. [06:51] because it's experimental afaik, that's why it's not working 100% [06:52] i could be wrong though [06:55] Available since years ago. [06:55] even it was working properly on unity 7 desktop [07:03] my bad then, i never used it myself, not even on Unity 7 so i can't tell. [08:37] Hi guys... i have a game related bug, it's caused by *something* in the oibaf ppa. Can you help me out how to gather the correct data and submit the bug? [08:38] I know it's caused by something in the ppa because I eliminated everything else one by one. Once I ppa-purged the libs, the game worked well again. [08:40] I'm using amdgpu navi10 rx5700, game is factorio. Tried kernel 5.4 (focal), kernel 5.8 (groovy) and mainline-kernel 5.8.13, 5.8.10. linux-firmware from apt and linux-firmware from git made no difference. Factorio had this persistent screen flickering and severe graphical glitches. [08:47] I've done a 16.04->18.04->20.04 do-release-upgrade on a laptop, and the GUI has stopped working. on reboot, I get the “The system is running in low-graphics mode” error. **is it possible to "re-do" the full installation process** how do I go through and make sure that I have on the laptop all the packages it needs, and that they are all installed and running correctly? [08:48] I've gone through https://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error from 8 years ago, but given the graphics were all working fine on 16.04, I don't think the solutions offered there are relevant [08:56] considering doing this next: https://ostechnix.com/how-to-fix-broken-ubuntu-os-without-reinstalling-it/ [08:59] so how viable is using ubuntu with no snaps installed, and just relying on apt for package management? [09:01] rk4: that works fine [09:03] since gnome is in snaps, and it has a giant dependency tree, was all that removed from apt management? [where plausible] or is everything or most things still in apt? even though they may also be in the snaps [09:12] rk4: EriC^^: related::: https://askubuntu.com/questions/866511/what-are-the-differences-between-snaps-appimage-flatpak-and-others (in case anyone else is interested too) [09:29] Kireji: thanks [09:52] I just installed an m.2 nvme drive, is there a simple way to migrate my whole ubuntu installation to it or is a clean install + moving the home directory a better option? [09:52] Dunams: are the 2 drives equal or bigger? [09:53] the new one is bigger [09:53] it will all easily fit [09:53] Dunams: cool, then you can dd it all to your nvme [09:54] EriC^^ might hand you a handy dd command [09:54] Dunams: what's your partition table look like? sudo parted -ls [09:55] i always forget all the arguments [09:55] can I use dd to do that from within the running OS? I thought these kinds of operations need to be performed by some sort of an external os utility [09:55] hi all [09:56] is there a maintained alternative to https://sourceforge.net/projects/webcamstudio/ [09:56] hejkki: what do you want it be able to do as features? [09:57] Dunams: best to dd from passive devices yea, like an usb/hd dock or external hd's [09:57] lotuspsychje: add some effects like logo and grab the desktop etc [09:58] EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/w5JfPFh6 [09:58] hejkki: grab the desktop you can do with recordmydesktop or kazam [09:58] lotuspsychje: and forward it to skype? [09:59] hejkki: ah you want something live effects? [09:59] EriC^^: I'm a little worried it can break grub or something though, as I have a Windows installation on another drive [09:59] yea [10:01] ubuntu is on /dev/sdc [10:01] hejkki: not sure of many options for those, perhaps check snap find webcam, there is also kamoso as cheese alternate [10:01] Dunams: you just want to copy ubuntu to the new drive? [10:02] yeah, I want to get rid of that old drive === mateen1 is now known as mateen [10:03] Dunams: ok, it's very straight forward for you, dd the whole disk to the new drive (using a live usb to run dd), then you can use resize2fs to enlarge the 2nd partition so it uses the whole space available in the new drive [10:03] Dunams: if you remove the old disk and insert the new, grub will function normally, as all the partition uuid's and fs uuid's would be preserved, so efi will work as if nothing changed [10:04] Dunams: the dd command would be "sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdX bs=4M status=progress && sync" where sdX is the new drive [10:05] how can I tell on which device/partition is grub on? [10:05] (and obviously replace sdc to represent the old disk if it changes when you run the live usb with the new disk inserted) [10:05] Dunams: for ubuntu grub is on /dev/sdc1 [10:07] wouldn't I need to change something to register grub with /dev/nvme0n1 instead of /dev/sdc1 after migrating? [10:09] Dunams: no, the way uefi works is usually there's an entry in the motherboard that has the partition uuid and file path e.g efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi , and there is a file there that points to your /boot/grub and fs it's on using the fs uuid, once that loads you get the menu [10:09] Dunams: if you want to see the current entry you're using type "sudo efibootmgr -v" and the currentboot would be it [10:09] Dunams: and remember to update disk UUID in /etc/fstab [10:09] rud0lf: no need since he's copying the whole disk, fs uuid wont change [10:09] ah okay [10:10] hm sounds fairly simple then, thanks [10:12] the uuid isn't being re-generated on the new device? meaning it's hardcoded to the fs? [10:12] Dunams: dd clones everything [10:13] just the hardware ubuntu will notice its another drive/brand [10:13] Dunams: yeah, dd literally just copies the disk bit for bit, partition table and everything [10:13] what happens if you have several copies of the filesystem on several devices? they all have the same uuid? [10:13] Dunams: yeah, that could be a problem [10:14] got it [10:14] Dunams: nothing can beat a clean install at the end :p [10:14] xD [10:14] thats what i would do on a new nvme [10:14] so I need to make sure to unplug /dev/sdc after dd [10:14] Dunams: yeah [10:15] lotuspsychje: honestly, that's what I thought. but if the process is fairly simple, it would save me time to reinstall all the packages and configurations I've made [10:16] Dunams: true, for cloning its ideal [10:17] can there be any performance side effects from doing that though? that's why i'm not a fan of "dirty" installations like that [10:17] Dunams: well as you clone everything, you take all the issues with you, from your previous install [10:17] space, programs, slowness of startup etc [10:18] but you can all tweak that afterwards too [10:18] I have some weird slowness issues which I attribute to the fact that the ssd is really old [10:18] is it 20.04 you are going to? [10:18] yeah [10:19] Dunams: then thats good news, install preload haveged stacer after your clone, and start tweaking [10:19] 20.04 has also an improved speed on systemd compared to bionic [10:21] i'm surprised by how much difference there is between the performance of regular sata ssd devices, the crucial mx500 ssd I have seems to perform 3-4 times faster in all tests I did than my entique crucial M4 [10:21] antique [10:22] technology is moving rapidly :) [10:23] tomreyn: regarding "sed --regexp-extended --in-place 's;(PATTERN).*$;\1;' path/to/file" , for example, input file is here https://pastebin.com/M0K4afJz, I want to delete the complete text after ";" in entire file. What is the exact command for this? [10:31] sub526: you're working with assembly but don't know regular expressions, yet? things must have changed in how they're taught nowadays. :) [10:32] i guess this should work [10:32] sed --regexp-extended --in-place 's|^[^;]* *;.*$|\1|' path/to/file [10:34] a much simpler approach would be cut -d';' -f1 path/to/file | sed 's/ *$//' [10:35] i'm sure this can be done much better, yet, but lack the proficience, too. you can try asking in #bash [10:46] is anyone here using iwd? [10:47] ereth: they do https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-improved-wifi-via-iwd/17795 === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [10:49] ereth: i think 20.10 will default to it, so you could /join #ubuntu+1 and give the beta a try, too === mateen1 is now known as mateen [10:51] tomreyn: I'm already using it but apparently having issues with the configuration on EAP-TTLS network (works fine with wpa_supplicant tho) [10:51] hmm, no, with this list of issues i guess 20.10 won'T defautl to iwd. [10:51] eduroam, eh? [10:52] i have no experience with it, try adding yours to said post [10:53] not eduroam, home setup with raspberry pi running hostapd [10:59] tomreyn: Thanks. cut command worked well. [11:26] Hi all [12:03] any benefit in changing the default swappiness from 60 to something lower? like 10 or 1? on a workstation with 32gb │@jose [12:03] │ | of ramy [12:03] gah bad copy paste [12:03] I asked that in the wrong channel by mistake [12:14] is there a way to install ubuntu with DE as default keyboard-layout... [12:14] or is there a oneliner (without any prompt) to change layout to de? [12:14] I know the dpkg-reconfigure way, but this needs to interact with the prompt === remy^ is now known as Remy [12:16] prillian5: setxkbmap de === BertyCoX is now known as KaitoDaumoto [13:25] Ohhhhh, with the mutter fixed pushed out yesterday, and finally, I rebooted my work computer, I can now see the UI text in its correct font sizes. It's wonderful. [13:25] !yay | wedr [13:25] wedr: Glad you made it! :-) [13:26] Yeah, it's a shame you can't reboot your work computer while in the middle of crunching stuffs [13:33] @tarzeau : "command not found" on a fresh 20.04 [13:34] (sorry, had lost internet-connection by provider, couldn't answer sooner === Chew_ is now known as Che === Che is now known as Chew === octav1a is now known as weretav1a [14:14] If I make a minimal install from a liveusb. Will I still have everything for USB tethering from an android tablet or would that require the Normal install? [14:15] Ether_Man: whats the purpose of your minimal goal? [14:16] To save as much space on the drive as possible as it's only 64GB and cannot be expanded. [14:16] Ether_Man: i would start normal install, then tweak things afterwards [14:16] Ether_Man: ubuntu desktop asks 8GB+ these days to install on [14:17] if you start tweaking and purging after, youl get a decent minimal aswell, with working networking [14:18] Until I delete something I shouldn't and end up with a non working system entirely [14:19] Ether_Man: before purging, after will tell you what depends it pulls, if you see basics, dont do it :p [14:19] *apt [14:20] Ether_Man: another way, is choosing an even lighter !flavour of ubuntu and start tweaking/purging there with bleachbit & stacer [14:20] It's not like it tells you there what is and isn't needed. I've ended up in completely unbootable systems because as an example in one case, I removed ncurses [14:21] Ether_Man: well try to handle things systematicly, start purging unwanted software first and file shredders that cleanup space a safe way [14:23] Ether_Man: in general, removing packages saves very little space. Space eaters are caches, log files and your own data [14:25] TJ-: very little space is really all I need. I would like to get above the 55GB free mark, because that's what needed for some stuff I want to install. So it's a very tight fit together with the OS as it is. Every little bit helps [14:27] Ether_Man: compressed file system ? [14:27] That's possible as the root fs? [14:28] Ether_Man: yes [14:28] Awesome. I'll look into it [14:28] Ether_Man: Ubuntu has support for ZFS and that supports compression [14:29] Doesn't ZFS eat up kind of a lot of RAM? [14:33] there stats where as to how many packages are in 20.04 universe? [14:34] ah wait, i forgot, i already downloaded the full package list. nevermind :D [14:35] it's ~88k, larger than i was expecting [14:50] Hello #ubuntu. Was needing some help with a USB drive issue. I blacklisted usb-storage under /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf. [14:51] And now my USB will not work anymore unfortunately. [14:51] I tried editing it again to delete is and saved it but it still isnt recognizing my flash drives [14:52] are there hints how to lighten ubuntu to get smaller snapshots (server backups)? [14:54] random1: did you reboot after the change? you can try, sudo modprobe usb_storage [14:55] I did reboot. Complete shutdown pavlos [14:55] Let me try. 1 moment [14:56] initramfs? [14:56] hi [14:56] prillian5: for server questions you can try our experts at #ubuntu-server if you like [14:57] I tried "sudo modprobe usb_storage" nothing returned out of the terminal. [14:57] pavlos [14:57] random1: lsmod | grep usb shows modules loaded [14:57] usb_storage 77824 0 [14:57] is what I get [14:58] I currently have it plugged in as well [14:58] @pavlos [14:59] random1: and you removed "blacklist usb_storage" from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [14:59] Yes that was my first move. Typically i never have this kind of issue but for some reason its deciding to stay for good *face palm* [15:00] random1: the name of the module is usb underscore storage, not usb-storage [15:00] Was a typo on my part. Yes i had it as "blacklist usb_storage" under /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [15:01] Now i went back in with nano and deleted it completely. At first i tried using a # and still had issues. So i deleted it completely and rebooted again and still the same problem [15:01] pavlos [15:03] random1: did you make any changes in /etc/default/grub ? [15:03] I have made no other edits to anything else. [15:03] pavlos [15:07] Usually your my savior pavlos :P. I know you got the solution haha [15:07] random1: lsmod | grep uas do you have that module? [15:08] Nothing came up [15:08] pavlos [15:08] random1: sudo modprobe uas [15:09] pavlos: nothing returned [15:09] random1: lsmod | grep usb [15:09] usb_storage 77824 1 uas [15:09] pavlos [15:09] random1: test is the usb stick is working ... [15:09] if* [15:10] pavlos: I tried both USB's. I tried before I came on here to do a dual boot off of the USB and my bios is recognizing it. It has another distro on it as well as the other flash disk. [15:10] flash drive* [15:12] heh... A full install on compressed is actually smaller than a minimal on uncompressed. Compressed install, "62.1 GB / 63.9 GB available" Full install. Awesome :) [15:12] random1: we just brought in both uas and usb_storage, it shows modules loaded. exactly as my system [15:13] pavlos: I am looking at "disks" and nothing pops up. [15:13] pavlos: weird it just popped up... Ok.. [15:14] random1: so it works? [15:14] pavlos: Not sure why but thank you again pavlos for another day of helping. Yes it works [15:14] random1: no worries [15:15] wait.. no it didnt. Im sorry thats my encrypted hard drive that tricked me. Let me show you a picture one moment. I know im not doing this wrong. pavlos [15:15] Its early and my brain is still waking up so please forgive me on the false success pavlos [15:18] random1: reboot, verify both modules are loaded, test with a stick that is fat32 or ntfs [15:18] pavlos: I will try. I have only 2 flash drives to my name. They both have distros on them. I will try to do a dual boot again. That sound good? [15:19] random1: dual boot will bring another OS, we care about 20.04 [15:20] @pavlos : Im confused on the statement you made them about "verify both modules are loaded". Im unsure what that exactly means [15:20] random1: lsmod | grep usb [15:21] random1: lsmod lists all modules loaded, we filter that list for anything that has usb [15:22] So boot into ubuntu safe mode with terminal and check "lsmod | greb usb" ? [15:23] random1: safe mode? no, just boot into 20.04 and type that command [15:23] alright. Sorry for the windows terminology been doing my best to make the shift to linux. Will be right back [15:25] random1: if you filter for "usb_", it should show one line: usb_storage 77824 1 uas [15:26] random1: you can filter for storage, lsmod | grep storage [15:28] typed "lsmod | grep usb" nothing [15:29] random1: so after reboot, it does not load the usb_storage and uas modules [15:30] Im confused on how to tell if it loads usb_storage and uas_modules except to type it into terminal upon reboot pavlos [15:31] I just typed in "lsmod | grep usb" and "lsmod | grep uas" still same issue [15:31] random1: lsmod | grep storage, that should give you usb_storage 77824 1 uas [15:31] nothing is come up for either one [15:31] "lsmod | grep storage" isnt showing anything [15:32] tried sudo as well [15:32] pavlos [15:34] this is really confusing on whats happening. Makes no sense pavlos [15:35] random1: you can load the modules, sudo modprobe usb_storage; sudo modprobe uas then check they are loaded, lsmod | grep storage [15:37] https://pastebin.com/At37a7CM is my blacklist.conf btw [15:37] after doing that this comes up usb_storage 77824 1 uas [15:37] pavlos [15:38] random1: now test a usb stick, does disks see it? [15:39] No it only shows my hard drive [15:39] pavlos [15:40] shows dev/sda1, dev/vgubuntu/root, and /dev/vgubuntu/swap_1 pavlos [15:41] random1: ok, I'll have to research this ... [15:41] let me know if there is anything i can pastebin. I really appreciate your help. Would hate to wipe everything again pavlos [15:44] So I know it's possible to rebind keys on the keyboard. Is it possible to rebind to Fn+arbitrary key? Like say Fn+m even if Fn+m normally has no function attached? [16:02] fun fact i tried "sudo dd if=linuxmint-18.1-mate-32bit.iso of=/dev/sdb" and my entire system crashed. Was wondering if i could grunt through it. everything just froze [16:07] hey i forget whos name it was whoever was helping me but dont worry about it. Im going to do a fresh install i guess [16:37] Is there a way of "filter out" with grep the last commands (last hour or so) without log off usersession in gdm3 ? [16:38] I cant see anything in this session in ~/.bash_history [16:39] use the "history" command instead [16:40] tomreyn: ahh, learning something new everyday :) I used tabs in terminal , thats why it did now write to .bash_history. Thanks. [16:40] hello. try to format ssd, but get error : /dev/sde1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here! [16:41] you're welcome, cjoke [16:41] also , this is not mount problem : umount: /dev/sde1: not mounted [16:42] How do I put a shortcut in the dash in Ubuntu 20.04? I would like to put a symlink to ~/Documents in the Dash. [16:42] user217_: maybe it's not a file system but it can still be some form of block device layer that's in use, such as a raid array member device, or an LVM physical volume. run file -s against it to get a better idea of how it may be used [16:42] MacGregor: you could put a desktop file of your file manager with the argument pointing to your /home/user/Doc... [16:46] EriC^: I know how to make .desktop files. How do I get that in the Dash? Would that .desktop file go in ~/.local/share/applications ? And then from the menu to the Dash? [16:50] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MqTV36Qn9R/ [16:50] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dMztxRKqK5/ [16:50] ERROR: no btrfs on /dev/sde [16:50] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X6D9HMdvnj/ [16:50] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ssTNBbrZ57/ [16:51] user217_: did you run file -s against it,t hough? [16:52] tomreyn, sdd is empty [16:52] MacGregor: yes, copy the usual filemanager desktop file to your ~/.local.... dir from /usr/share/applications, and edit the Exec line and whatnot, then chmod +x it [16:52] and drag to the dash [16:53] EriC^: Excellent idea! I was wondering what to write in the .desktop file. Your suggestion is genius! Thank you [16:53] user217_: sdd? didn't you say this was about /dev/sde1 ? [16:54] MacGregor: no problem [16:56] tomreyn, yep [16:56] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K7Hc33d7X8/ [16:58] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/M3w4SynbFT/ [16:59] anyone here have the dummy output issue on 20.04? [17:00] user217_: hmm, data is unusual if it had been in use before. what does ths return? ls -l /dev/sde1 [17:01] tomreyn, brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 65 жов 8 19:35 /dev/sde1 [17:02] diamondbond: imagine you're with a fairy, and sher grants you three questions to ask about understanding and solving this issue, would this be one of your questions? === endarchy1 is now known as endarchy [17:04] user217_: hmm ok i guess it's just a standard partition then. can't easily tell how it was used. but rebooting will ensure it's not in use anymore (unless you have it referenced somwhere where it gets activated during boot). [17:05] tomreyn, I cant reboot now, becouse I need to backup files to it, becouse I suddenly delete partition table on other hdd [17:06] tomreyn, yes, its been plaguing me for a few months now and i can't find a permanent fix, pulseaudio -k && rm -rf ~/.config/pulse && sudo alsa-force reload and then rebooting; temporarily fixes the issue but every time i reboot after that my audio output is still "dummy output" [17:06] only after running the pulseaudio cmd's 2-3 times then immediately rebooting with my headphones plugged in does the problem no longer persist [17:07] but this problem is on two of my machines (Both running ubuntu 20.04 - one with xfce and the other with plasma) [17:07] Don't suppose it's possible to get PlayOnLinux/Wine to think the drive is bigger than what it is is there? Have a 64gig drive, using ZFS compression gets me everything I need... Except the game wants 20gig free before it accepts to patch anything and ofc it wants the newest everything... Even if it won't end up using any more and it would have 20gig if it tried with the compression... But because it sees 18, it doesn't even try :/ [17:09] tomreyn, I re-plug ssd and can format it now. thanks for help [17:12] What do you think about Ubuntu having 135k open bugs? They are never going to be fixed and the number is growing. Add Debian to this - instead of Ubuntu directly using Debian's repo + custom repos for additional features it doubles the burde = 135k Ubuntu + 84k Debian, instead of having the bugs tracked once, as the difference in packages between [17:12] the two is small, unjustifiable small compared to the cost. BTW why distros are happy to increase the number of maintained packages? It should be the reverse, look at windows, they carry less than 1000 programs, I guess. Meanwhile distros with waay less resources are trying to carry around 50k of packages. Why should they even provide anything [17:12] beside a bare system? Anything else could be provided from an additional repository, like PPA/Flat/Snap/Google Play/ MS Store/AppImage/steam/websites etc. [17:14] EriC^: I'm now very happy that I learned how to write my own .desktop files instead of using a menu editor :) [17:14] MacGregor: great, good to hear :) [17:15] is there a better notifications app for ubuntu than the standard one? [17:15] which official flavour of Ubuntu 20.04 would be suitable for a laptop with just 4 Gigs of RAM? [17:15] TuxCrazy: I would say Xubuntu [17:16] It uses the XFCE desktop environment.. which is less resource heavy [17:16] MacGregor, how about Ubuntu Mate, Budgie or Deepin? [17:16] * tomreyn on the phone, brb [17:16] TuxCrazy: I know nothing of Budgie or Deepin, but Mate is technically a fork of gnome 2.x [17:16] I have never tried Budgie and Deepin. [17:17] MacGregor, ok [17:17] TuxCrazy: LiveUSB.. the wonderful way to test before installing :) [17:17] are Ubuntu Cinnamon and Deepin official flavors of Ubuntu? [17:18] if not, when will they become official flavors? [17:18] I' not sure about "official" falvors, but I believe Cinnamon is a Linux Mint product [17:19] MacGregor, https://ubuntucinnamon.org/ [17:20] TuxCrazy: Cinnamon, Budgie and Deepin are just desktop environmnets. I suppose you could install them in Ubuntu itself === beaver|bbl is now known as beaver [17:21] TuxCrazy: It's good to think about machine specs, but I feel it's also good to use that which is easiest for the user === ace_me1 is now known as ace_me [17:23] MacGregor, ok [17:25] TuxCrazy: One of the many reasons LiveSUB is so helpful [17:25] MacGregor, ok [17:26] MacGregor, but, after installing the packages later the distro may become heavy and sluggish on such machines with limited resources. [17:26] TuxCrazy: Yes, it would take up HD/SSD space, but a desktop that isn't running isn't really tking up RAM memory, is it? [17:27] MacGregor, ok [17:27] c [17:27] I am grabbing some randomness with: hexdump -C -n 8 /dev/random - I check the entripy before and after - seems that more entropy than should be is being consumed, please see: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qMhympRbxh/ [17:33] user217_: sorry, had a phone call incoming - glad you solved it! [17:35] I had some trouble with booting to usb previously, I've given up on that and dual booted my windows machine, however now my grub / boot config is all jacked up, can I get some help fixing it? [17:35] https://pastebin.com/EMbC9nP1 boot-repair report [17:35] The automatic boot-repair script fails [17:35] diamondbond: sorry, been on the phone. what i meant to explain with the fairy tale is that it's much preferred here to ask specific questions about your very situation, rather than to make it a poll. the poll can seem like a nicer way to start the conversation, but most people on this support chat will prefer you getting straight to the point. [17:39] diamondbond: the problem where alsa does not detect your playback sink or sound chip is unknown to me. the way you describe it, it sounds like a race condition. firmware updates *may* help there, or you can try to gather some info on the hardware ynad environment you have there, using the alsa-info script. [17:39] but i'm pretty bad at sound debugging, so don't expect much from me there. [17:39] !sound | diamondbond [17:39] diamondbond: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [17:39] thank you tomreyn :) [17:42] jpmiller25: we only support ubuntu here, please check the website of your linux distribution for available support channels, or install ubuntu - then we can support you here. [17:43] diamondbond: you're welcome, good luck! [17:44] Shoot, right I forgot in trying different things to get it to work I ended up on mint... my bad [17:45] no problem, jp ;) [17:46] ##linux is another option [17:48] I can not fix this damn dependency issue and therefor can't upgrade my ubuntu heh https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fMTBWwHcJb/ [17:50] Mibix: Why aren't you using zoneminder from the repos? [17:50] its from their PPA [17:51] Mibix: Right, but have you tried using the one in the repos? [17:51] * MacGregor feels that we shouldn't use a PPA for something that is in the repos - the present case is why [17:51] nah i set this up a long time ago and it took me forever to get working so i would rather not mess with it [17:52] Well, you're going to have to do something now [17:52] i dont think the one in the repo was working [17:54] the repo version uses the same dependencies though [17:54] Is there any way to trigger a ZFS recompress after changing compression from the default? [17:54] hi, how can I set back the application search keyboard shortcut to "Super" only ? [17:55] Mibix: The zoneminder in the repos uses the deps from the repos.. that's the whole purpose of repos [17:55] your problem is a deps problem due to unmet dpes from the repos [17:56] Mibix: which ubuntu release are you on, and which repository is configured, and how, where you pull this 'zoneminder' package from? [17:56] bluetemplar: If you do that I don't think you'll be able to use "Super" for anything else - i.e. for Super+H to open the home folder [17:56] im stuck on 18.04 [17:57] but it worked before ? (IIRC when "Super" was released ?) [17:57] APT-Sources: http://ppa.launchpad.net/iconnor/zoneminder-master/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages [17:58] that is from the apt show zoneminder [17:59] Whoa, no inxi app on 20.04? [17:59] Mibix: I'm wondering if you have mixed repo resources [17:59] Mibix: did you sudo apt update before trying to install this? [18:00] Mibix: use Isaac's repo, add-apt-repository ppa:iconnor/zoneminder-1.34 [18:00] https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libavcodec57 shows that libavcodec57 should indeed be on version 7:3.4.8 in bionic (amd64) [18:01] but you have 7:3.4.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 installed instead [18:01] yeah i just did a sudo apt-update [18:01] err [18:01] sudo apt-get update [18:02] then i did a sudo apt-get update libavcodec57 and no updates [18:02] old PPA? [18:02] and sudo apt-get update ran without reporting any errors or warnings? [18:03] note that "apt-get update" does not take additional (non option) arguments [18:03] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ShxFXqFPpq/ [18:04] !repositories | Mibix [18:04] Mibix: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [18:04] you lack important apt repositories, szuch as those providing security updates [18:05] or so it seems [18:05] sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 ^ this would tell [18:05] hello [18:05] Mibix: How did you run that sudo command without the need for a password? [18:06] folks, do you remember? https://pasteboard.co/JuibGwL.png [18:06] that ugly scrollbars on i3. I found out it looks almost good when running "gnome-settings-daemon". What the heck is going on here? [18:06] and how to fix it? === TheWild1 is now known as TheWild [18:07] tomreyn i did not have enough of those boxes checked off [18:07] seems to be working now :D [18:10] lmao wow [18:10] 800mb of updates [18:10] im a moron thanks tomreyn [18:10] :D [18:10] Mibix: I'm hoping that resolves the deps issue [18:11] it did [18:11] it probably also resolves a lot of other (security) issues. [18:12] haha for sure [18:12] it looks like it was only downloading updates from the custom PPAs i added [18:12] :o [18:12] yeah, since y ou only had those checked [18:13] please tell me how do check available disk space using the terminal [18:13] if this system was connected to the internet directly for a while in this configuration, you may want to just do a fresh install now. [18:13] Mibix: ^ [18:13] haha [18:13] Right, due to security vulnerabilities that went unpatched [18:13] wasnt connected directly [18:13] analogical: df -h /path/to/mount_point_or_directory [18:14] I have a lubuntu VM that lacks an ip address after boot. dmesg shows nothing I can identify as problematic. What ordinarily causes networking to start? Where should I look? [18:14] i wonder how this got turned off [18:14] tomreyn, I want to check a hard drive nothing else [18:15] analogical: you mean the physical capacity of a disk, not the remaining capacity of a file system (a formatted partition)? [18:15] tomreyn: the link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources that the bot posted is really old info. Do you know of a more recent page? [18:16] analogical: let me rephrase this: you mean the total capacity of a physical disk, not the remaining capacity of a file system (a formatted partition)? [18:16] tomreyn, I want know how much available free space there is on my hard drive is that so strange? [18:16] plujon: did you assign a network interface to the VM (bridge, NAT) [18:17] maybe that isn't possible with linux [18:18] analogical: i have not fully verified it, but on a quick glance this looks like the default sources.list file of ubuntu 18.04 LTS: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/h0bbel/4b28ede18d65c3527b11b12fa36aa8d1/raw/314419c944ce401039c7def964a3e06324db1128/sources.list [18:18] (for a system close to ths US(A) mirror server) [18:19] analogical: sorry, this wanst for you [18:19] MacGregor: see above [18:19] tomreyn: Thank you [18:19] if im using Cinnamon as my desktop evnironment am I going to have issues when i upgrade to 20.04? [18:20] I want know how much available free space there is on my hard drive how do I do that from the terminal? [18:20] analogical: unless you have a file system directly on the raw disk, which is not very common (but possible), yes. [18:20] Mibix: Are you using Linux Mint? [18:20] pavlos: Yes, the networking used to work fine for the VM. [18:20]