[01:20] <callmepk> good morning
[02:20] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[02:20] <callmepk> morning duflu 
[05:10] <jibel> Good morning
[05:54] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[06:03] <jibel> hi duflu 
[06:07] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:07] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, jibel 
[06:07] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN 
[06:10] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN 
[06:42] <didrocks> good morning
[06:43] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[06:44] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[06:56] <seb128> hey duflu, lut didrocks, goood morning desktopers
[06:57] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[06:57] <jamesh> morning seb128 and others
[06:57] <seb128> hey jamesh 
[06:57] <seb128> it's friday! :-) how are you?
[06:57] <didrocks> salut seb128, joyeux vendredi
[06:57] <didrocks> hey jamesh 
[07:01] <seb128> didrocks, salut et à toi également ;-)
[07:05] <duflu> Hi jamesh 
[07:05] <duflu> Come here often?
[07:11] <Maik> good morning  everyone
[07:48] <seb128> clobrano, hey, I saw the comment on bug #1875993 , while we encourage users to report issues upstream when they can we don't discourage them to report bugs against the Ubuntu package in launchpad since Ubuntu is what they are using
[07:49] <seb128> ideally triagers would help to review and upstream those as needed though
[07:49] <seb128> also reporting upstream requires knowledge and every project has their own infra, users might not want to go through creating stack of accounts to report their issues
[08:00] <duflu> It's also objectively correct to log a bug in Ubuntu first, since the bug definitely exists in Ubuntu at least
[08:00] <duflu> but not always in the upstream
[08:05] <Laney> sup supo supo sup
[08:05] <duflu> super
[08:05] <duflu> sup Laney
[08:07] <seb128> hey Laney, happy friday to you!
[08:07] <Laney> hey duflu seb128, happy friday indeed
[08:07] <Laney> feels like a long week this time
[08:08] <seb128> time to go back to have fridays off! :p
[08:10] <Laney> tempting
[08:11] <Laney> whoever came up with 5/2 work/non-work days was wrong :>
[08:34] <Laney> ricotz: hey, just wondering about the libreoffice upload in the queue... is your plan to push 7.0.2 final next week?
[08:35] <Laney> actually, looks like 7.0.2 is out now? so should we skip the rc? https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/10/08/libreoffice-702/
[09:44] <seb128> ricotz, hey, I saw your msg yesterday, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nv-codec-headers/9.1.23.1-0ubuntu2
[10:25] <Laney> ah good, we have that clear-old-devices flag set in pulseaudio, was going to ping about that
[11:26] <ricotz> Laney, this package was actually meant to be pushed last week, not sure why it got delayed that much
[11:27] <ricotz> rc2 == final, so it would basically mean to repack and change the version string
[11:27] <ricotz> there is no need to do this
[11:28] <ricotz> seb128, thanks
[11:39] <luna_> seb128: Wimpress: Sent in some suggestions for Swedish for the new AD and ZFS Features in the installer now :) 
[11:45] <seb128> luna_, great!
[12:08] <Laney> ricotz: you don't think there is value in having it labelled as a stable release properly?
[12:10] <ricotz> Laney, no
[12:10] <Laney> :/
[12:11] <Laney> I can guarantee you we will get complaints / questions / enquiries about that
[12:11] <ricotz> Laney, I understand, but there is no real benefit doing so
[12:11] <Laney> worth the 10 minutes work
[12:11] <ricotz> Laney, this is not 10 min work
[12:11] <ricotz> likely an hour
[12:17] <ricotz> Laney, please accept this package, I will provide a "final" package next week
[12:19] <Laney> ok, sorry, I'm watching a presentation at the same time as this
[12:20] <Laney> tkamppeter: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/494034809/system-config-printer_1.5.12-0ubuntu1_1.5.12-0ubuntu2.diff.gz lol
[12:21] <tkamppeter> Laney, I discovered this today when I checked whether there are still packagges recommending or requiring ippusbxd.
[12:22] <tkamppeter> The -0ubuntu3 is uploaded.
[12:22] <Laney> yeah, that's why I went back to look at the previous upload
[12:22] <Laney> funny ;)
[13:05] <luna_> marcustomlinson: saw your work on better theming support for Snaps listening to this weeks Ubuntu Podcast, looks great :)
[13:23] <marcustomlinson> luna_: thanks :) big up to jamesh for doing most of the work ;)
[14:49] <oSoMoN> seb128, I prepared the shared-mime-info update in salsa, do we want to preventively upload to ubuntu before it's in Debian?
[14:50] <seb128> oSoMoN, wouldn't hurt since we are getting close from release?
[14:51] <oSoMoN> seb128, would you mind giving it a quick review?
[14:51] <seb128> oSoMoN, let me review
[14:51] <oSoMoN> (I verified that it builds on all arches and installs fine, ofc)
[15:21] <seb128> oSoMoN, seems fine to me, I will sponsor to Debian a bit later but feel free to upload to ubuntu as 0build1 or 1~fakesync
[15:21] <seb128> (I tend to do 0build1 so it got automatically synced without manual intervention next cycle)
[15:22] <oSoMoN> ok, I'll do that
[15:22] <seb128> thx
[15:23] <Laney> both versions achieve that, only the string 'ubuntu' stops auto-sync
[15:24] <Laney> only saying because it read like a claim the second one does too, maybe that wasn't the intention
[15:33] <oSoMoN> so semantically speaking, using ~fakesync is more correct, right? (because it's not a no-change rebuild)
[15:35] <seb128> Laney, thanks, I didn't know *ubuntu was special, I though *build was, I learnt something :-)
[15:36] <seb128> oSoMoN, yes, I just though that it wouldn't be automatically overwritten
[15:37] <Laney> some people don't rev the number at all, they just re-target the _source.changes for ubuntu (syncpackage --no-lp)
[15:38] <seb128> that feels weird to me :p
[15:38] <Laney> me too, but I see the logic as it's unchanged and not a rebuild, kind of morally a sync
[15:38] <seb128> indeed
[15:39] <Laney> wouldn't do it for syncs from new though, as they could end up being rejected and then you would be lying about the contents
[15:39] <seb128> right
[15:40] <didrocks999> "I didn't know *ubuntu was special, I though *build was, I learnt something :-)" +1, I was thinking *build was special-cased
[15:40] <seb128> speaking of updates I started on an hackish script to automate some of the steps to do GNOME updates
[15:40] <seb128> I will try to clean that up next week and share it
[15:41] <seb128> didrocks999,^5
[15:41] <Laney> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/view/head:/auto-sync#L438
[15:41] <seb128> didrocks999, still not land line for internet?
[15:41]  * didrocks999 high five back (999 times)
[15:41] <didrocks999> seb128: no, but TBH, with 4G, I have 50Mb/s, where DSL here is 2…
[15:41] <Laney> script> niceeeeeeeee
[15:41] <oSoMoN> seb128, that script sounds interesting, looking forward to seeing it
[15:41] <didrocks999> the only issue is stability with those micro-cut
[15:42] <seb128> wouldn't be an issue on mattermost :p
[15:42] <didrocks999> BUT that doesn’t impact TV or HO, only IRC
[15:42] <didrocks999> yeah
[15:42] <seb128> we need that to replace IRC
[15:42] <didrocks999> TBH, browsing and all the rest is great
[15:42] <didrocks999> only IRC sucks (and lack of static IP for my server)
[15:43] <didrocks999> I wasn’t expecting such reliable bandwidth (also, I’m aggregating 3 frequency bands)
[15:44] <didrocks999> with TV and due to all-day HO with j_ibel, I’m topping 300Gb/month for 16€…
[15:45] <didrocks999> so, I think, I’ll wait for fiber (it’s now only 150m away!) to get wired
[15:45]  * didrocks999 sees fiber going from one house closer to the next one :)
[15:46] <oSoMoN> seb128, ready for sponsoring: https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/sponsoring/shared-mime-info.debdiff
[15:47] <seb128> oSoMoN, did you apply for moday's dmb meeting yet? ;-)
[15:48] <seb128> and did you corner didrocks or Laney to get extra endorsements?
[15:48] <oSoMoN> seb128, no, I'm waiting for at least a third endorsement (gotta ping my favourite coredevs again), and I'm afk on Monday anyway
[15:48] <Laney> you need to give N days notice anyway (7?)
[15:49] <Laney> I will do it :>
[15:49] <Laney> need to check what I sponsored
[15:49] <oSoMoN> Laney, didrocks999: this is the perfect task for a Friday afternoon, right before opening a beer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierTilloy/CoreDevApplication
[15:49] <didrocks999> afternoon? is it still afternoon? :p
[17:16] <oSoMoN> alrighty, I'm off for three days, have a good week-end everyone