| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:42 |
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| Mamarok | oh brilliant, now I have no sound whsatsoever, niether the built-inb audio card nor the USB plug card are seen on Groovx :-( | 12:38 |
| Mamarok | at least Plasma loads correctlx now, nut why is the sound gone? | 12:38 |
| BluesKaj | Mamarok, intel audio ? | 12:39 |
| Mamarok | yes | 12:39 |
| BluesKaj | not the usb, but the onboard | 12:39 |
| Mamarok | yes | 12:40 |
| BluesKaj | Mamarok, if you upgraded to a new kernel lately then perhaps the old intel bug is in effect, sometimes the driver doesn't load | 12:41 |
| Mamarok | oh crap, yes, that's the -21 kernel, the 20 had serious problems loading everything, now at least it is jsut the sound | 12:42 |
| BluesKaj | so run sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel, if it loads properly there will be no output from the command, then a reboot might be needed | 12:42 |
| Mamarok | meaning I have external keyboard and mouse working now and Plasma loads correcltly, which the -20 kernel never did | 12:42 |
| Mamarok | let me check | 12:43 |
| Mamarok | btw, how can I make sure the WiFi card is activate on startup? That is another thing which is highly annoying since 20.04 | 12:44 |
| BluesKaj | Mamarok, I have the same network start problem with my laptop. clicking on the netwoek manager and choosing your listed router should worl. i haven't found a method yet to tell network manager to autoconnect wifi | 12:49 |
| Mamarok | right, let's reboot to try getting some sound... | 12:49 |
| Mamarok | good, sound is back, but the Plasma loading issues are back as well, maybe some conflicts on startup? takes roughly 25 seconds to load the panel | 12:54 |
| Mamarok | the externsl sound card is not seen at all, strsngelyx I can sue the buttons on it to change the volume, but the sound card doesn't appear in the devices list | 12:56 |
| BluesKaj | run lsusb to se if the external sound card is listed | 12:57 |
| BluesKaj | see | 12:57 |
| Mamarok | it is listed | 12:59 |
| BluesKaj | perhaps it shows with F6 in alsamixer | 12:59 |
| BluesKaj | you can choose it there | 13:00 |
| Mamarok | yes, that works, now let's see if that helps... | 13:00 |
| Mamarok | doesn't help, though, I can't get any output through it, or do I need to reload Plasma? | 13:02 |
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| BluesKaj | Mamarok, you may need to choose it in pavucontrol as well | 13:05 |
| Mamarok | it still doesn't show in pavucontrol :-( | 13:07 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, wonder if it needs to be chosen in the efi/bios | 13:09 |
| BluesKaj | that's a bit of a pita tho | 13:09 |
| Mamarok | oh my, that would be a first, that just worked previouslx, why would this have changed= I have never chosen a soundcard in the Bios on this machine | 13:10 |
| Mamarok | having to choose USB plugs in the bios makes no sense | 13:10 |
| BluesKaj | ok, well then my knowledge about outboard sound is rather limited, unless you know how to use jack, something i have no clue about | 13:12 |
| Mamarok | I think I will leve it for now, at least it recognized the HDMI output again so I have sound on the display | 13:14 |
| Mamarok | waiting for the new laptop to arrive and see if the idsues persist on the AMD machine | 13:14 |
| BluesKaj | what do you use the outboard audio for? | 13:14 |
| Mamarok | I plug in the external speakers and microphone, as the laptop sound card is rather very basic and has no wayx to plug in external speakers | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | can't you plug the external speakers into the audio out on the laptop? | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | same place where you plug the neadphones | 13:19 |
| BluesKaj | headphones | 13:19 |
| Mamarok | yes, but then I would ahve to plug in the headphonbes on the speakers aas well for the mic, whcih is a bit of a cable mess | 13:19 |
| BluesKaj | true | 13:19 |
| Mamarok | also I have better sound through that external sound card | 13:20 |
| BluesKaj | sometimes intel audio distorts the input audio volume if it goes above 80% in alsamixer | 13:21 |
| Mamarok | true, and even a cheap external card is better in that regard | 13:26 |
| Mamarok | looking forward to that AMD machine... hopefull arriving next week | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | ryzen? | 13:26 |
| Mamarok | yes, Ryzen5, the 7 laptop ones are not available until next year | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | i use a hdmi to my avreceiver from this pc, but it's spdif so it's a totally digital stream thru the onboard intel audio, so the D/A conversion doesn't happen in the pc at all and the audio is really quite clean on all codecs. I don't use my laptop for audio listening at all. | 13:33 |
| BluesKaj | this setup is basically a HTPC | 13:34 |
| BluesKaj | getting an occasional FF freeze up here, any ideas? | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | on GG | 14:35 |
| ricktimmis | A kubuntu user emailed the list about no Sudo for Dolphin or Kate. I've managed to solve kate using sudoedit, any ideas on how to approach file management with sudo ? | 18:01 |
| Mamarok | oh well, it's a KDE decision, advanced users can always handle their files with the command line | 18:07 |
| Mamarok | it's too risky for most users to have sudo access in Dolphin, the risk of actully totally ruining their system is too high, I think it's legit not to make this too easy to use | 18:08 |
| ricktimmis | Yes, I read Martins blog which makes sense. | 18:08 |
| Mamarok | and experienced users know how to circumvent that anyway | 18:09 |
| ricktimmis | I was thinking of perhaps having an admin file manager solution in the K Menu. Obviously not Dolphin | 18:09 |
| ricktimmis | Yes that is a good point | 18:09 |
| ricktimmis | The user who emailed pointed out that they don't want to use the CLI for this. | 18:10 |
| Mamarok | they don't have to, but as I said, if they know what they are doing they have sudo access on the GUI | 18:10 |
| Mamarok | I remember back in RedHat 5 times the root GUI was dark red overall :-) | 18:11 |
| ricktimmis | Wow! Red Hat 5 | 18:11 |
| ricktimmis | That is a long time ago | 18:11 |
| ricktimmis | I think I started with RH7 | 18:11 |
| ricktimmis | I was using SuSe before that | 18:12 |
| Mamarok | that was my first Linux installation, and it took me like 3 months to get X working | 18:12 |
| Mamarok | then I switched to SuSE too | 18:12 |
| ricktimmis | Yeah, I tried Mandrake which I got in a box with about 12 3.5 disks | 18:12 |
| ricktimmis | Never got it workingh | 18:12 |
| Mamarok | only to develop a deep hatred for Yast... | 18:12 |
| ricktimmis | I still have found feeling for SuSe | 18:13 |
| Mamarok | and then I tried Debian, and soon discovered Sid and as happy for a long time | 18:13 |
| Mamarok | was | 18:13 |
| Mamarok | with some experiments with Gentoo and Mandrake, and Mepis | 18:13 |
| ricktimmis | Similar deal here Mandrake 'Fail' -> SuSe (Yay! ) RedHat (Yat! ) -> Gentoo ( Ouch, Ooo, Fail, fix, Yay!) - Debian -> Ubuntu -> Kubuntu ( Home ) | 18:15 |
| ricktimmis | Ah ha | 18:19 |
| ricktimmis | Thanks @Mamarok - Found a pkexec solution based upon your hint | 18:19 |
| ricktimmis | Now I feel like I know what I am doing | 18:19 |
| Mamarok | ;-) | 18:42 |
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