 Issues with 20.10 so far: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g2zQ3dMCd8/
 Trying to file a bug against Kubuntu bluetooth mouse connection failure but none of the installed bluetooth module seem kubuntu specific: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZvbWWd3DMM/
 I don't understand how Ubuntu 20.10 can work fine but not Kubuntu 20.10 without something differentiating the KDE packages.  Booting back to Ubuntu 20.10 to compare the list... brb
 BT list from ubuntu 20.10: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QpDv3NRdqh/
[01:44] <IrcsomeBot1> * DarinMiller has trouble reading, sometimes.... comparing the Ubuntu vs Kbuntu lists I see that the qt/qml vs gnome differences.  Filing but now against qml-module-org-kde-bluezqt/groovy...
 BT scan bug filed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427526
 BT mouse is now working?!  Strange, possible intermittent behavior.  I closed the above case until I can determine are more repeatable failure.
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:21] <santa_> hi everyone
[13:22] <santa_> Mamarok: hmm ... you had a problem with the keyboard?
[13:25] <Mamarok> still do, the NumPad doesn't work at all, it works with Windows, so not a hardwre issue
[13:25] <Mamarok> it's a Logitech MX keys
[13:25] <Mamarok> the same happened with the Cherry MX
[13:26] <Mamarok> I suspect a driver issue, even when selecting a Generic 105 keys model or any of the Logitech ones, no dice
[13:28] <Mamarok> this is an external keyboard to the laptop, connected with the universal USB plug, that does work out of the box with both the mouse and the keyboard, the Cherry is a USB model
[13:29] <Mamarok> one mention: it takes roughly 25-30 seconds until both mouse and keyboard are responsive on startup in the SDDM login screen
[13:31] <Mamarok> IIRC the current driver is evdev, right?
[13:31] <Mamarok> or is it libinput?
[13:45] <santa_> I don't know, nevermind it's just that I hit this thing https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=164820
[13:47] <santa_> Mamarok: another thing I noticed is that I got some extra stuff installed automatically, which shouldn't be there afaik (ibus)
[13:47] <santa_> that's because ibus-data had a "Recommends: ibus", but that was fixes
[13:48] <santa_> so you might want to remove ibus and do "apt autoremove" but I doubt that's going to solve your problem
[13:49] <santa_> s/fixes/fixed/
[13:49] <Mamarok> let me check...
[13:50] <santa_> btw RikMills and everyone else: I finished this morning the last KDE Frameworks 5.75 so it should be ready to test in the staging PPA
[13:51] <Mamarok> no ibus here, other than ibus-data
[13:55] <Mamarok> hm, I have both libinput and evdev installed, maybe there is a driver conflict...
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, no ibus panel in your system tray?
[13:57] <Mamarok> how does that look?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> there might be an icon there, or in the system tray list
[13:59] <Mamarok> apparently not
[13:59] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:00] <Mamarok> what is this supposed to do?
[14:03] <Mamarok> This is not the keyboard layout switcher, isn't it?
[14:03] <Mamarok> which I need daily
[14:03] <BluesKaj> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Input_Bus
[14:04] <Mamarok> well, I don't use any Asian language that apparently needs it
[14:04] <BluesKaj> don't think i really need it anyway 
[14:06] <Mamarok> can I remove evdev without braking something? I suspect a driver conflict
[14:07] <Mamarok> I have libinput, kbd and evdev installed, libinput is apparently default
[14:13] <BluesKaj> yeah same on my laptop
[14:17] <BluesKaj> i have an outboard mouse for the laptop which works fine, but no outboard KB
[14:19] <BluesKaj> not a touch pad user....can't seem to get the touchpad to work for me due to my stiff fingers
[14:19] <BluesKaj> touch of arthritis doesn'thelp
[14:23] <Mamarok> ditto, I am a mouse person
[14:28] <BluesKaj> right
[14:32] <RikMills> santa_: thanks
[14:57] <santa_> RikMills: I have another pending things, for instance KA 2.3: I think I'm going to release 2.3 this afternon (finally!) do you have any urgent issue to be fixed? note that we can, of course, have 2.3.x point releases for easy low-risk bugfixes
 don't think so
[20:38] <valorie> Mamarok: I'm also having problems with sound and my cam in 20.10
[20:38] <valorie> the beta at first was fine, but now th cam is not detected and just doesn't turn on
[20:39] <valorie> my usb headset works, but plugging and unplugging it is undetected, which is v. strange
[20:39] <valorie> I can control it in pavu but cam isn't seen except by lsusb
[20:40] <valorie> and another weirdness: screen brightness can no longer be controlled
[20:41] <valorie> and the alt+f5/f6 for volume control no longer work either, but the little popup showing "change" still pops up!
[20:41] <valorie> I will file bug reports but have no clue against *what*
[20:42] <valorie> I got @DarinMiller 's bug about "sleep" which somehow got turned in in systemsettings -- and caused me to have to quit via the power button
[20:43] <valorie> my son thinks that is an nvidia driver bug
[20:46] <Mamarok> I don't have a NVIDIA card and wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole
[20:46] <Mamarok> looking forward to the new laptop that should arrive sometime next week