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callmepkgood morning00:48
jibelGood morning04:01
dufluMorning jibel04:07
jibelHi duflu 04:12
callmepkgood morning jibel duflu 04:19
jibelHi callmepk 04:21
dufluHi callmepk 04:24
jibelI've been hit by bug 1871538 again this morning04:28
ubot5bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187153804:28
jibelIf anyone has an idea how to collect any useful information, I'm all ears04:29
seb128goood morning desktopers05:30
dufluMorning seb128 05:45
dufluBack later...05:48
callmepkmorning seb128 05:51
luna_morning05:54
didrocksgood morning06:20
ricotzgood morning desktopers06:56
didrockshey ricotz 06:58
dufluMorning luna_, didrocks, ricotz 07:04
didrocksmorning duflu 07:04
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:14
ricotzhey didrocks duflu 07:15
ricotzhey oSoMoN 07:15
oSoMoNhey ricotz 07:15
ricotzoSoMoN, jyi https://launchpad.net/%7Emozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next/+packages07:16
didrockssalut oSoMoN !07:16
oSoMoNsalut didrocks 07:16
oSoMoNricotz, thanks, I was afk yesterday but I'll push builds to ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa in a moment07:17
ricotzoSoMoN, I assume 81.0.2?07:18
oSoMoNricotz, I was thinking 82.0, but better to wait for your builds to complete I guess07:19
dufluHi oSoMoN 07:30
oSoMoNhey duflu 07:30
marcustomlinsonmorning callmepk jibel duflu seb128 luna_ didrocks ricotz oSoMoN :)07:52
oSoMoNhey marcustomlinson 07:53
dufluHi marcustomlinson 07:53
didrocks999hey marcustomlinson 07:54
seb128hey to those who joined during my morning errands, how are you?08:00
marcustomlinsonseb128: doing ok thanks, you?08:03
Laneyyo08:04
didrocks999hey seb128, Laney 08:04
seb128marcustomlinson, I'm alright, hopefully it's a quiet day and I can participate to the iso testing hangout and get some other things done :-)08:04
seb128lut Didier, hey Lany08:04
jibelsalut marcustomlinson and all08:04
marcustomlinsonhey Laney08:04
oSoMoNsalut seb128 & jibel 08:09
jibelhola oSoMoN 08:09
dufluHi Laney08:11
Laneyhey didrocks999 marcustomlinson jibel oSoMoN duflu 08:17
oSoMoNhey Laney 08:17
jibelGood morning Laney 08:18
luna_morning08:20
duflujibel, how do I confirm the milestone/build numbers I am seeing are for the daily image I am using?08:26
dufluOh, the version is in the right column on the builds page :)08:28
callmepkhey marcustomlinson08:31
oSoMoNseb128, shared-mime-info 2.0-1 is in unstable, do we still want to sync? (can't do myself)08:31
callmepkand morning/afternoon luna_ didrocks999 ricotz oSoMoN 08:31
oSoMoNhey callmepk 08:32
seb128oSoMoN, oh, sorry, I though you could/were syncing it last week08:38
seb128I will do it08:38
seb128did you manage to get some extra endorsement?08:38
seb128yeah, you got Didier +108:39
seb128time to send your application for the next meeting08:39
LaneyI'm writing that now too, how timely08:39
Laneywas just looking at https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=Iain+Lane&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=Olivier+Tilloy&sponsoree_search=name08:39
Laneyseems I didn't sponsor too much08:39
didrocks999sponsoring is one thing, but reviewing MP is equal to me08:45
Laneyyeah, I just don't know of a nice webpage for that :p08:47
didrocks999even unnice would do :)08:48
ricotzLaney, marcustomlinson, I regarding libreoffice 7.0.2-0ubuntu1 -- the test build succeeded here and some runtime testing worked out -- https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+sourcepub/11659977/+listing-archive-extra08:48
ricotzdepends on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/189945608:49
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1899456 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) " [UIFe] Update yaru icon style to 2010-10-11 (Ubuntu) " [Undecided,New]08:49
Laneyricotz: did you email ubuntu-doc as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze ?08:54
Laneyah Gunnar found it anyway08:54
Laneynm (but do note that in case you aren't so lucky next time)08:54
ricotzmarcustomlinson, Laney, which location do you prefer to pull the actual source package from?08:57
LaneyI'll let marcustomlinson reply, I will be reviewing so can't sponsor :>09:10
marcustomlinsonricotz: we can copy it from that ppa that's fine09:10
ricotzmarcustomlinson, ok, but that is not the source to be uploaded09:11
marcustomlinsonbut that's the build you tested09:11
ricotzmarcustomlinson, the changelog is not sufficient for the archive09:11
ricotzyes, only the changelog and version needs a minor tweak09:12
ricotzmarcustomlinson, https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?h=wip/groovy-7.0&id=8b35616fbefdcafc76b6095ddeed7d7c5ccdd65c09:12
ricotzmarcustomlinson, https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/09:13
ricotzlet me know if you require the full source, otherwise you can put it together by dget'ing from the ppa 09:14
ricotzmarcustomlinson, the full source package is at https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/09:41
marcustomlinsonricotz: I have uploaded already09:42
marcustomlinsonsorry, waiting for the LP link to work to share it09:42
ricotzalright https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=libreoffice09:43
marcustomlinsonyeah09:43
ricotzcheers09:44
seb128jamesh, marcustomlinson, Trevinho, tkamppeter, kenvandine, weekly summary reminder?10:20
oSoMoNthanks didrocks999 and Laney for the endorsements, I'll announce my application later today. Switching to ISO testing for now10:20
seb128& oSoMoN 10:20
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luna_oSoMoN: have you packaged Firefox 81.0.2 ?11:21
oSoMoNluna_, I'm on it, it's in the groovy queue (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=firefox) and I'll prepare the update for stable releases11:22
luna_oSoMoN: perfect thanks11:22
oSoMoNjibel, care to confirm bug #1899620 ?11:23
ubot5bug 1899620 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Going back to change the installer's language doesn't update the default keyboard layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189962011:23
jibeloSoMoN, done11:37
luna_oSoMoN: its there now thanks :)11:50
luna_will not attend the meeting today, as i have other things that collides11:51
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luna_will read the log afterwards however as i still idle here12:27
seb128luna_, 👍12:28
hellsworthgood morning folks13:27
kenvandinehey hellsworth 13:27
hellsworthhi kenvandine 13:27
jibelGood morning hellsworth 13:28
seb128hey Heather, how are you?13:29
hellsworthhi there jibel seb128 ! i'm good. coming off a long weekend.. it was nice13:29
hellsworthready to do some iso testing today :)13:29
seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-1313:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Oct 13 13:30:09 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.13:30
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marcustomlinsonhey hellsworth and kenvandine13:30
seb128Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk13:30
marcustomlinson\o13:30
oSoMoNo/13:30
hellsworth~o~13:30
callmepko/13:30
Trevinhoo/13:31
didrocks999h e y13:31
seb128;-)13:31
seb128let's get started!13:31
LaneyI 8 U13:31
seb128#topic rls-bb-bug13:31
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:31
jibelo/13:31
kenvandineo/13:31
seb128no desktop entry13:31
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:31
seb128no unassigned one13:32
seb128#topic rls-ff-bug13:32
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:32
seb128bug #1899473 from d_oko13:32
ubot5bug 1899473 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "gpg migration is stuck (gpg running at 100%)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189947313:32
seb128oSoMoN, any opinion?13:32
seb128it's the only report so far so I would say it hasn't shown the sign to be a rls issue but we should keep an eye on it13:33
oSoMoNyeah, I'll try to reproduce it13:33
oSoMoNand assigning myself13:33
seb128thx13:34
seb128let's notfixing it for now13:34
seb128bug #1872159 is handled, just those aren't filtered out yet, I need to ping Brian about it13:35
ubot5bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu Focal) "Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187215913:35
seb128bug #189920613:35
ubot5bug 1899206 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189920613:35
seb128seems like a SRU regression so something we should handle13:36
seb128Trevinho, could you check on that one?13:36
Trevinhoseb128: yeah13:36
seb128thx13:36
seb128bug #189248613:36
ubot5bug 1892486 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in strstr(NULL, "ubuntu") from cc_sound_panel_init" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189248613:37
seb128'Looks like the crash won't ever happen in a normal Ubuntu session so dropped severity.'13:37
seb128so why did you tag it Daniel?13:37
seb128it seems an easy one to fix and we should probably do the tweak but not rls I would think13:37
didrocks999ack13:37
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Laneyindeed13:37
seb128bug #1880508 is still assigned to tseliot but I kept it as a testcase for that filtered tweak bdmurray is supposed to do13:38
oSoMoNagreed13:38
ubot5bug 1880508 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu Groovy) "package nvidia-340 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/lib/udev/rules.d/71-nvidia.rules', which is also in package nvidia-kernel-common-440 440.82+really.440.64-0ubuntu6" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188050813:38
seb128that's it for focal incoming13:39
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:39
seb128nothing new there13:39
seb128#topic rls-gg-bug13:39
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:39
seb128bug #189722413:40
ubot5bug 1897224 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Graphical snaps can't run in Gnome 3.38 Wayland sessions (can't open X display)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189722413:40
seb128that's being discussed upstream and handled by jamesh and duflu13:40
kenvandinethat should be rls 13:40
seb128Trevinho you might need to help with a cherry pick upload13:40
Laneyseems worth tracking to me, even if not our default session it's pretty important for other distros13:40
Trevinhook13:41
seb128right, needs to land upstream, we can distro patch help other distros...13:41
tseliotseb128, isn't that a duplicate of LP: #1768499 ?13:41
ubot5Launchpad bug 1768499 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu) "package nvidia-340 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/lib/udev/rules.d/71-nvidia.rules', which is also in package nvidia-kernel-common-390 390.48-0ubuntu3" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176849913:41
seb128but agreed, we need to follow up on that one13:41
Laneyso assign it to jamesh imho13:41
seb128ack13:41
TrevinhoI was reading that bug upstream, so I felt like it needed some work :)13:42
Trevinhobetter if you can ask him to have a look, otherwise I can jump...13:42
seb128tseliot, could be, I didn't investigate the details, it's just on our list, feel free to dup if appropriate13:42
seb128Trevinho, k, I will do that then, thanks13:42
seb128bug #185930813:42
ubot5bug 1859308 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Groovy) "software-properties-gtk erroneously reports that certain Intel wireless adapter cards are not working" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185930813:42
seb128that one was also a testbug kept for the filtering improvement13:42
seb128I will clean to keep only one of those13:43
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:43
seb128those are assigned13:43
tseliotok13:43
seb128#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages13:43
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seb128https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages13:43
seb128xorg-server needs work but t_jaalton said it was on his todolist13:44
luna_can say that the Firefox 81.0.2 build works running it atm13:44
seb128luna_, ah, nice one, thank you13:44
oSoMoNthanks luna_ for the feedback!13:44
seb128k, that's it for proposed migration13:45
seb128#topic AOB13:45
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seb128release is next week, ISO testing is happening if you want to join13:45
luna_seb128: at what time/date ?13:46
Laneyif you know how to make screen reading work for apps run under sudo, come contribute a fix :>13:46
seb128luna_, no specific date, a bunch of people have been doing installs today13:47
luna_seb128: ah alright 13:47
seb128luna_, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/413/builds/221687/testcases13:47
luna_thx13:47
seb128issues can be discussed here13:47
seb128anything else?13:47
seb128kenvandine, we should discuss how we deal with snaps as a team again at some point, but probably doesn't need to be in the meeting13:48
kenvandineyeah13:49
seb128relying on one person to press a button to not have our snap store expire doesn't sound great13:49
marcustomlinsonkenvandine: can you add me as contributor to the snap store snap13:49
seb128no offense to the work you are doing there :)13:49
kenvandinewe do have collaborators there :)13:50
kenvandinebut yeah13:50
seb128we didn't know who those are13:50
seb128and they didn't seem to be around or know themselve they are13:50
seb128anyway, we have a trello card for that now13:50
seb128anything else to discuss in the meeting?13:50
seb128k, seems not13:51
kenvandineoh... you are right, i never added you to that snap13:51
seb128let's wrap then an go back to iso testing and other work13:51
seb128thanks desktoppers!13:51
seb128#endmeeting13:51
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Oct 13 13:51:35 2020 UTC.  13:51
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-10-13-13.30.moin.txt13:51
marcustomlinsonthanks13:51
oSoMoNthanks seb128 13:51
luna_no problem, joined in the middle as i was doing other things and was not in front of the PC but i read along :) 13:51
seb128didrocks, jibel, can you help with reviewing https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/fr/302/+translate ? that one could deserve some translator context, I'm unsure to understand how it's used exactly taken out of context as it is there13:58
luna_seb128: i think its the administrator account to join the AD/Windows/NETBIOS domain, but i might be wrong13:59
seb128luna_, thanks14:01
luna_Can't install the latest Atom release on 20.10 14:30
luna_some depencies is missing gconf-service and gvfs-bin14:32
luna_but gvfs-bin is deprecated in 20.10, where do i report this issue?14:35
Laneywhere's the package from?14:37
luna_the .deb from the Atom github: https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/download/v1.52.0/atom-amd64.deb https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/tag/v1.52.014:38
seb128tracker indexer doesn't seem to do its job correctly for me, if I do14:39
seb128$ echo isotesting > ~/Documents/todolist14:39
seb128$ tracker search isotesting14:39
seb128no result14:39
Laneythen I guess atom14:39
seb128$ tracker status14:39
seb128doesn't show a difference before and after creating the file14:40
luna_Laney: got it too work by installing the latest depencies from Debian sid, but yeah 14:42
luna_oh well writing a bug report14:42
luna_https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/2149414:43
seb128thanks14:44
Laneynice one14:44
Laneyhopefully they respond, we get these problems when we drop stuff sometimes14:45
Laneyseb128: on the iso? I have some memory that tracker is disabled there, not sure if that's right14:45
Laneyit seems to work for me in the installed system though (new install, just done)14:45
seb128Laney, no, new install (in a VM but should do a difference)14:46
seb128it works if I copy that file to ~14:46
LaneyI did echo foo > Documents/bar14:46
Laneyopen nautilus14:46
Laneytype foo14:46
Laneyworks14:46
seb128Documents is listed in the list of locations to index though14:47
seb128k14:47
Laneytracker status went from 135 to 136 as well14:47
Laney:( 14:47
seb128works after restarting tracker-fs-miner14:48
seb128:/14:49
LaneyBUGSSSSSSSSSS14:49
luna_Laney: seb128: seems they have fixed it in the 1.53 Beta version 15:04
Laney👍15:04
seb128luna_, great15:08
luna_put in a request to Wimpress and popey to snap it up too 15:09
seb128tseliot, do you know what could be writting WaylandEnable=false to /etc/gdm3/custom.conf in the case of nvidia installations?15:15
luna_thats solved now too15:18
tseliotseb128, I am trying to remember. I think it used to be nvidia-prime. It definitely isn't the case any more. I don't think Wayland works unless KMS is enabled, and KMS is not enabled by default.15:24
Laneyseb128: found it with Trevinho, gdm has a bug in the meson port that it overwrites this file instead of writing to /run :S16:56
Trevinhoyeah, quite bad regression16:56
TrevinhoISO TESTING WON!16:56
Trevinhohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1899673 17:03
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1899673 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm 3.38 with nvidia drivers breaks Wayland support (once nvidia drivers are disabled)" [Critical,In progress]17:03
Trevinhoand Ben had fixed it some weeks ago but just because he thought was related to auto-login, didn't get the actual implication for nvidia.17:03
KGB-0gdm tags 33e4cf0 Marco Trevisan upstream/3.38.1 * Upstream version 3.38.1 * https://deb.li/3ZPBi18:42
KGB-0gdm upstream/latest d15c4cc Marco Trevisan * pushed 8 commits * https://deb.li/x1Rl18:42
KGB-0gdm pristine-tar 54e2de9 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3KgnI18:42
seb128Laney, Trevinho, nice catch!18:56
Trevinhoseb128: I may have it to sponsor soon18:56
seb128you need a sponsor for gdm?18:56
seb128_Trevinho, sorry I timeouted earlier, you need sponsoring for gdm?19:47
seb128_it's annoying that desktop set doens't really cover desktop packages :-/19:47
ItzSwirlzOh lol. I use @DebianUpload on twitter to see uploads and I saw the gdm one. :P20:05

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