[00:48] good morning [04:01] Good morning [04:07] Morning jibel [04:12] Hi duflu [04:19] good morning jibel duflu [04:21] Hi callmepk [04:24] Hi callmepk [04:28] I've been hit by bug 1871538 again this morning [04:28] bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871538 [04:29] If anyone has an idea how to collect any useful information, I'm all ears [05:30] goood morning desktopers [05:45] Morning seb128 [05:48] Back later... [05:51] morning seb128 [05:54] morning [06:20] good morning [06:56] good morning desktopers [06:58] hey ricotz [07:04] Morning luna_, didrocks, ricotz [07:04] morning duflu [07:14] good morning desktoppers [07:15] hey didrocks duflu [07:15] hey oSoMoN [07:15] hey ricotz [07:16] oSoMoN, jyi https://launchpad.net/%7Emozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next/+packages [07:16] salut oSoMoN ! [07:16] salut didrocks [07:17] ricotz, thanks, I was afk yesterday but I'll push builds to ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa in a moment [07:18] oSoMoN, I assume 81.0.2? [07:19] ricotz, I was thinking 82.0, but better to wait for your builds to complete I guess [07:30] Hi oSoMoN [07:30] hey duflu [07:52] morning callmepk jibel duflu seb128 luna_ didrocks ricotz oSoMoN :) [07:53] hey marcustomlinson [07:53] Hi marcustomlinson [07:54] hey marcustomlinson [08:00] hey to those who joined during my morning errands, how are you? [08:03] seb128: doing ok thanks, you? [08:04] yo [08:04] hey seb128, Laney [08:04] marcustomlinson, I'm alright, hopefully it's a quiet day and I can participate to the iso testing hangout and get some other things done :-) [08:04] lut Didier, hey Lany [08:04] salut marcustomlinson and all [08:04] hey Laney [08:09] salut seb128 & jibel [08:09] hola oSoMoN [08:11] Hi Laney [08:17] hey didrocks999 marcustomlinson jibel oSoMoN duflu [08:17] hey Laney [08:18] Good morning Laney [08:20] morning [08:26] jibel, how do I confirm the milestone/build numbers I am seeing are for the daily image I am using? [08:28] Oh, the version is in the right column on the builds page :) [08:31] hey marcustomlinson [08:31] seb128, shared-mime-info 2.0-1 is in unstable, do we still want to sync? (can't do myself) [08:31] and morning/afternoon luna_ didrocks999 ricotz oSoMoN [08:32] hey callmepk [08:38] oSoMoN, oh, sorry, I though you could/were syncing it last week [08:38] I will do it [08:38] did you manage to get some extra endorsement? [08:39] yeah, you got Didier +1 [08:39] time to send your application for the next meeting [08:39] I'm writing that now too, how timely [08:39] was just looking at https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=Iain+Lane&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=Olivier+Tilloy&sponsoree_search=name [08:39] seems I didn't sponsor too much [08:45] sponsoring is one thing, but reviewing MP is equal to me [08:47] yeah, I just don't know of a nice webpage for that :p [08:48] even unnice would do :) [08:48] Laney, marcustomlinson, I regarding libreoffice 7.0.2-0ubuntu1 -- the test build succeeded here and some runtime testing worked out -- https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+sourcepub/11659977/+listing-archive-extra [08:49] depends on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1899456 [08:49] Ubuntu bug 1899456 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) " [UIFe] Update yaru icon style to 2010-10-11 (Ubuntu) " [Undecided,New] [08:54] ricotz: did you email ubuntu-doc as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze ? [08:54] ah Gunnar found it anyway [08:54] nm (but do note that in case you aren't so lucky next time) [08:57] marcustomlinson, Laney, which location do you prefer to pull the actual source package from? [09:10] I'll let marcustomlinson reply, I will be reviewing so can't sponsor :> [09:10] ricotz: we can copy it from that ppa that's fine [09:11] marcustomlinson, ok, but that is not the source to be uploaded [09:11] but that's the build you tested [09:11] marcustomlinson, the changelog is not sufficient for the archive [09:12] yes, only the changelog and version needs a minor tweak [09:12] marcustomlinson, https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?h=wip/groovy-7.0&id=8b35616fbefdcafc76b6095ddeed7d7c5ccdd65c [09:13] marcustomlinson, https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/ [09:14] let me know if you require the full source, otherwise you can put it together by dget'ing from the ppa [09:41] marcustomlinson, the full source package is at https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/ [09:42] ricotz: I have uploaded already [09:42] sorry, waiting for the LP link to work to share it [09:43] alright https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=libreoffice [09:43] yeah [09:44] cheers [10:20] jamesh, marcustomlinson, Trevinho, tkamppeter, kenvandine, weekly summary reminder? [10:20] thanks didrocks999 and Laney for the endorsements, I'll announce my application later today. Switching to ISO testing for now [10:20] & oSoMoN === JanC_ is now known as JanC [11:21] oSoMoN: have you packaged Firefox 81.0.2 ? [11:22] luna_, I'm on it, it's in the groovy queue (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=firefox) and I'll prepare the update for stable releases [11:22] oSoMoN: perfect thanks [11:23] jibel, care to confirm bug #1899620 ? [11:23] bug 1899620 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Going back to change the installer's language doesn't update the default keyboard layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899620 [11:37] oSoMoN, done [11:50] oSoMoN: its there now thanks :) [11:51] will not attend the meeting today, as i have other things that collides === franksmcb_ is now known as franksmcb [12:27] will read the log afterwards however as i still idle here [12:28] luna_, 👍 [13:27] good morning folks [13:27] hey hellsworth [13:27] hi kenvandine [13:28] Good morning hellsworth [13:29] hey Heather, how are you? [13:29] hi there jibel seb128 ! i'm good. coming off a long weekend.. it was nice [13:29] ready to do some iso testing today :) [13:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13 [13:30] Meeting started Tue Oct 13 13:30:09 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [13:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.38 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13 | Current topic: [13:30] hey hellsworth and kenvandine [13:30] Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk [13:30] \o [13:30] o/ [13:30] ~o~ [13:30] o/ [13:31] o/ [13:31] h e y [13:31] ;-) [13:31] let's get started! [13:31] I 8 U [13:31] #topic rls-bb-bug === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.38 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13 | Current topic: rls-bb-bug [13:31] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:31] o/ [13:31] o/ [13:31] no desktop entry [13:31] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html [13:32] no unassigned one [13:32] #topic rls-ff-bug === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.38 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13 | Current topic: rls-ff-bug [13:32] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:32] bug #1899473 from d_oko [13:32] bug 1899473 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "gpg migration is stuck (gpg running at 100%)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899473 [13:32] oSoMoN, any opinion? [13:33] it's the only report so far so I would say it hasn't shown the sign to be a rls issue but we should keep an eye on it [13:33] yeah, I'll try to reproduce it [13:33] and assigning myself [13:34] thx [13:34] let's notfixing it for now [13:35] bug #1872159 is handled, just those aren't filtered out yet, I need to ping Brian about it [13:35] bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu Focal) "Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872159 [13:35] bug #1899206 [13:35] bug 1899206 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899206 [13:36] seems like a SRU regression so something we should handle [13:36] Trevinho, could you check on that one? [13:36] seb128: yeah [13:36] thx [13:36] bug #1892486 [13:37] bug 1892486 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in strstr(NULL, "ubuntu") from cc_sound_panel_init" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892486 [13:37] 'Looks like the crash won't ever happen in a normal Ubuntu session so dropped severity.' [13:37] so why did you tag it Daniel? [13:37] it seems an easy one to fix and we should probably do the tweak but not rls I would think [13:37] ack === didrocks999 is now known as didrocks [13:37] indeed [13:38] bug #1880508 is still assigned to tseliot but I kept it as a testcase for that filtered tweak bdmurray is supposed to do [13:38] agreed [13:38] bug 1880508 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu Groovy) "package nvidia-340 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/lib/udev/rules.d/71-nvidia.rules', which is also in package nvidia-kernel-common-440 440.82+really.440.64-0ubuntu6" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1880508 [13:39] that's it for focal incoming [13:39] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html [13:39] nothing new there [13:39] #topic rls-gg-bug === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.38 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13 | Current topic: rls-gg-bug [13:39] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:40] bug #1897224 [13:40] bug 1897224 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Graphical snaps can't run in Gnome 3.38 Wayland sessions (can't open X display)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897224 [13:40] that's being discussed upstream and handled by jamesh and duflu [13:40] that should be rls [13:40] Trevinho you might need to help with a cherry pick upload [13:40] seems worth tracking to me, even if not our default session it's pretty important for other distros [13:41] ok [13:41] right, needs to land upstream, we can distro patch help other distros... [13:41] seb128, isn't that a duplicate of LP: #1768499 ? [13:41] Launchpad bug 1768499 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu) "package nvidia-340 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/lib/udev/rules.d/71-nvidia.rules', which is also in package nvidia-kernel-common-390 390.48-0ubuntu3" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768499 [13:41] but agreed, we need to follow up on that one [13:41] so assign it to jamesh imho [13:41] ack [13:42] I was reading that bug upstream, so I felt like it needed some work :) [13:42] better if you can ask him to have a look, otherwise I can jump... [13:42] tseliot, could be, I didn't investigate the details, it's just on our list, feel free to dup if appropriate [13:42] Trevinho, k, I will do that then, thanks [13:42] bug #1859308 [13:42] bug 1859308 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Groovy) "software-properties-gtk erroneously reports that certain Intel wireless adapter cards are not working" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859308 [13:42] that one was also a testbug kept for the filtering improvement [13:43] I will clean to keep only one of those [13:43] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html [13:43] those are assigned [13:43] ok [13:43] #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.38 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13 | Current topic: update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [13:43] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [13:44] xorg-server needs work but t_jaalton said it was on his todolist [13:44] can say that the Firefox 81.0.2 build works running it atm [13:44] luna_, ah, nice one, thank you [13:44] thanks luna_ for the feedback! [13:45] k, that's it for proposed migration [13:45] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.38 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13 | Current topic: AOB [13:45] release is next week, ISO testing is happening if you want to join [13:46] seb128: at what time/date ? [13:46] if you know how to make screen reading work for apps run under sudo, come contribute a fix :> [13:47] luna_, no specific date, a bunch of people have been doing installs today [13:47] seb128: ah alright [13:47] luna_, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/413/builds/221687/testcases [13:47] thx [13:47] issues can be discussed here [13:47] anything else? [13:48] kenvandine, we should discuss how we deal with snaps as a team again at some point, but probably doesn't need to be in the meeting [13:49] yeah [13:49] relying on one person to press a button to not have our snap store expire doesn't sound great [13:49] kenvandine: can you add me as contributor to the snap store snap [13:49] no offense to the work you are doing there :) [13:50] we do have collaborators there :) [13:50] but yeah [13:50] we didn't know who those are [13:50] and they didn't seem to be around or know themselve they are [13:50] anyway, we have a trello card for that now [13:50] anything else to discuss in the meeting? [13:51] k, seems not [13:51] oh... you are right, i never added you to that snap [13:51] let's wrap then an go back to iso testing and other work [13:51] thanks desktoppers! [13:51] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.38 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 [13:51] Meeting ended Tue Oct 13 13:51:35 2020 UTC. [13:51] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-10-13-13.30.moin.txt [13:51] thanks [13:51] thanks seb128 [13:51] no problem, joined in the middle as i was doing other things and was not in front of the PC but i read along :) [13:58] didrocks, jibel, can you help with reviewing https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/fr/302/+translate ? that one could deserve some translator context, I'm unsure to understand how it's used exactly taken out of context as it is there [13:59] seb128: i think its the administrator account to join the AD/Windows/NETBIOS domain, but i might be wrong [14:01] luna_, thanks [14:30] Can't install the latest Atom release on 20.10 [14:32] some depencies is missing gconf-service and gvfs-bin [14:35] but gvfs-bin is deprecated in 20.10, where do i report this issue? [14:37] where's the package from? [14:38] the .deb from the Atom github: https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/download/v1.52.0/atom-amd64.deb https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/tag/v1.52.0 [14:39] tracker indexer doesn't seem to do its job correctly for me, if I do [14:39] $ echo isotesting > ~/Documents/todolist [14:39] $ tracker search isotesting [14:39] no result [14:39] then I guess atom [14:39] $ tracker status [14:40] doesn't show a difference before and after creating the file [14:42] Laney: got it too work by installing the latest depencies from Debian sid, but yeah [14:42] oh well writing a bug report [14:43] https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/21494 [14:44] thanks [14:44] nice one [14:45] hopefully they respond, we get these problems when we drop stuff sometimes [14:45] seb128: on the iso? I have some memory that tracker is disabled there, not sure if that's right [14:45] it seems to work for me in the installed system though (new install, just done) [14:46] Laney, no, new install (in a VM but should do a difference) [14:46] it works if I copy that file to ~ [14:46] I did echo foo > Documents/bar [14:46] open nautilus [14:46] type foo [14:46] works [14:47] Documents is listed in the list of locations to index though [14:47] k [14:47] tracker status went from 135 to 136 as well [14:47] :( [14:48] works after restarting tracker-fs-miner [14:49] :/ [14:49] BUGSSSSSSSSSS [15:04] Laney: seb128: seems they have fixed it in the 1.53 Beta version [15:04] 👍 [15:08] luna_, great [15:09] put in a request to Wimpress and popey to snap it up too [15:15] tseliot, do you know what could be writting WaylandEnable=false to /etc/gdm3/custom.conf in the case of nvidia installations? [15:18] thats solved now too [15:24] seb128, I am trying to remember. I think it used to be nvidia-prime. It definitely isn't the case any more. I don't think Wayland works unless KMS is enabled, and KMS is not enabled by default. [16:56] seb128: found it with Trevinho, gdm has a bug in the meson port that it overwrites this file instead of writing to /run :S [16:56] yeah, quite bad regression [16:56] ISO TESTING WON! [17:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1899673 [17:03] Ubuntu bug 1899673 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm 3.38 with nvidia drivers breaks Wayland support (once nvidia drivers are disabled)" [Critical,In progress] [17:03] and Ben had fixed it some weeks ago but just because he thought was related to auto-login, didn't get the actual implication for nvidia. [18:42] gdm tags 33e4cf0 Marco Trevisan upstream/3.38.1 * Upstream version 3.38.1 * https://deb.li/3ZPBi [18:42] gdm upstream/latest d15c4cc Marco Trevisan * pushed 8 commits * https://deb.li/x1Rl [18:42] gdm pristine-tar 54e2de9 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3KgnI [18:56] Laney, Trevinho, nice catch! [18:56] seb128: I may have it to sponsor soon [18:56] you need a sponsor for gdm? [19:47] Trevinho, sorry I timeouted earlier, you need sponsoring for gdm? [19:47] it's annoying that desktop set doens't really cover desktop packages :-/ [20:05] Oh lol. I use @DebianUpload on twitter to see uploads and I saw the gdm one. :P