[00:48] <callmepk> good morning
[04:01] <jibel> Good morning
[04:07] <duflu> Morning jibel
[04:12] <jibel> Hi duflu 
[04:19] <callmepk> good morning jibel duflu 
[04:21] <jibel> Hi callmepk 
[04:24] <duflu> Hi callmepk 
[04:28] <jibel> I've been hit by bug 1871538 again this morning
[04:29] <jibel> If anyone has an idea how to collect any useful information, I'm all ears
[05:30] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[05:45] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[05:48] <duflu> Back later...
[05:51] <callmepk> morning seb128 
[05:54] <luna_> morning
[06:20] <didrocks> good morning
[06:56] <ricotz> good morning desktopers
[06:58] <didrocks> hey ricotz 
[07:04] <duflu> Morning luna_, didrocks, ricotz 
[07:04] <didrocks> morning duflu 
[07:14] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:15] <ricotz> hey didrocks duflu 
[07:15] <ricotz> hey oSoMoN 
[07:15] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz 
[07:16] <ricotz> oSoMoN, jyi https://launchpad.net/%7Emozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next/+packages
[07:16] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN !
[07:16] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[07:17] <oSoMoN> ricotz, thanks, I was afk yesterday but I'll push builds to ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa in a moment
[07:18] <ricotz> oSoMoN, I assume 81.0.2?
[07:19] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I was thinking 82.0, but better to wait for your builds to complete I guess
[07:30] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[07:30] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[07:52] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk jibel duflu seb128 luna_ didrocks ricotz oSoMoN :)
[07:53] <oSoMoN> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:53] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:54] <didrocks999> hey marcustomlinson 
[08:00] <seb128> hey to those who joined during my morning errands, how are you?
[08:03] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing ok thanks, you?
[08:04] <Laney> yo
[08:04] <didrocks999> hey seb128, Laney 
[08:04] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm alright, hopefully it's a quiet day and I can participate to the iso testing hangout and get some other things done :-)
[08:04] <seb128> lut Didier, hey Lany
[08:04] <jibel> salut marcustomlinson and all
[08:04] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:09] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 & jibel 
[08:09] <jibel> hola oSoMoN 
[08:11] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:17] <Laney> hey didrocks999 marcustomlinson jibel oSoMoN duflu 
[08:17] <oSoMoN> hey Laney 
[08:18] <jibel> Good morning Laney 
[08:20] <luna_> morning
[08:26] <duflu> jibel, how do I confirm the milestone/build numbers I am seeing are for the daily image I am using?
[08:28] <duflu> Oh, the version is in the right column on the builds page :)
[08:31] <callmepk> hey marcustomlinson
[08:31] <oSoMoN> seb128, shared-mime-info 2.0-1 is in unstable, do we still want to sync? (can't do myself)
[08:31] <callmepk> and morning/afternoon luna_ didrocks999 ricotz oSoMoN 
[08:32] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk 
[08:38] <seb128> oSoMoN, oh, sorry, I though you could/were syncing it last week
[08:38] <seb128> I will do it
[08:38] <seb128> did you manage to get some extra endorsement?
[08:39] <seb128> yeah, you got Didier +1
[08:39] <seb128> time to send your application for the next meeting
[08:39] <Laney> I'm writing that now too, how timely
[08:39] <Laney> was just looking at https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=Iain+Lane&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=Olivier+Tilloy&sponsoree_search=name
[08:39] <Laney> seems I didn't sponsor too much
[08:45] <didrocks999> sponsoring is one thing, but reviewing MP is equal to me
[08:47] <Laney> yeah, I just don't know of a nice webpage for that :p
[08:48] <didrocks999> even unnice would do :)
[08:48] <ricotz> Laney, marcustomlinson, I regarding libreoffice 7.0.2-0ubuntu1 -- the test build succeeded here and some runtime testing worked out -- https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+sourcepub/11659977/+listing-archive-extra
[08:49] <ricotz> depends on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1899456
[08:54] <Laney> ricotz: did you email ubuntu-doc as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze ?
[08:54] <Laney> ah Gunnar found it anyway
[08:54] <Laney> nm (but do note that in case you aren't so lucky next time)
[08:57] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, Laney, which location do you prefer to pull the actual source package from?
[09:10] <Laney> I'll let marcustomlinson reply, I will be reviewing so can't sponsor :>
[09:10] <marcustomlinson> ricotz: we can copy it from that ppa that's fine
[09:11] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, ok, but that is not the source to be uploaded
[09:11] <marcustomlinson> but that's the build you tested
[09:11] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, the changelog is not sufficient for the archive
[09:12] <ricotz> yes, only the changelog and version needs a minor tweak
[09:12] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?h=wip/groovy-7.0&id=8b35616fbefdcafc76b6095ddeed7d7c5ccdd65c
[09:13] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/
[09:14] <ricotz> let me know if you require the full source, otherwise you can put it together by dget'ing from the ppa 
[09:41] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, the full source package is at https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/
[09:42] <marcustomlinson> ricotz: I have uploaded already
[09:42] <marcustomlinson> sorry, waiting for the LP link to work to share it
[09:43] <ricotz> alright https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=libreoffice
[09:43] <marcustomlinson> yeah
[09:44] <ricotz> cheers
[10:20] <seb128> jamesh, marcustomlinson, Trevinho, tkamppeter, kenvandine, weekly summary reminder?
[10:20] <oSoMoN> thanks didrocks999 and Laney for the endorsements, I'll announce my application later today. Switching to ISO testing for now
[10:20] <seb128> & oSoMoN 
[11:21] <luna_> oSoMoN: have you packaged Firefox 81.0.2 ?
[11:22] <oSoMoN> luna_, I'm on it, it's in the groovy queue (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=firefox) and I'll prepare the update for stable releases
[11:22] <luna_> oSoMoN: perfect thanks
[11:23] <oSoMoN> jibel, care to confirm bug #1899620 ?
[11:37] <jibel> oSoMoN, done
[11:50] <luna_> oSoMoN: its there now thanks :)
[11:51] <luna_> will not attend the meeting today, as i have other things that collides
[12:27] <luna_> will read the log afterwards however as i still idle here
[12:28] <seb128> luna_, 👍
[13:27] <hellsworth> good morning folks
[13:27] <kenvandine> hey hellsworth 
[13:27] <hellsworth> hi kenvandine 
[13:28] <jibel> Good morning hellsworth 
[13:29] <seb128> hey Heather, how are you?
[13:29] <hellsworth> hi there jibel seb128 ! i'm good. coming off a long weekend.. it was nice
[13:29] <hellsworth> ready to do some iso testing today :)
[13:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 13 13:30:09 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:30] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth and kenvandine
[13:30] <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
[13:30] <marcustomlinson> \o
[13:30] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:30] <hellsworth> ~o~
[13:30] <callmepk> o/
[13:31] <Trevinho> o/
[13:31] <didrocks999> h e y
[13:31] <seb128> ;-)
[13:31] <seb128> let's get started!
[13:31] <Laney> I 8 U
[13:31] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
[13:31] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:31] <jibel> o/
[13:31] <kenvandine> o/
[13:31] <seb128> no desktop entry
[13:31] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> no unassigned one
[13:32] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> bug #1899473 from d_oko
[13:32] <seb128> oSoMoN, any opinion?
[13:33] <seb128> it's the only report so far so I would say it hasn't shown the sign to be a rls issue but we should keep an eye on it
[13:33] <oSoMoN> yeah, I'll try to reproduce it
[13:33] <oSoMoN> and assigning myself
[13:34] <seb128> thx
[13:34] <seb128> let's notfixing it for now
[13:35] <seb128> bug #1872159 is handled, just those aren't filtered out yet, I need to ping Brian about it
[13:35] <seb128> bug #1899206	
[13:36] <seb128> seems like a SRU regression so something we should handle
[13:36] <seb128> Trevinho, could you check on that one?
[13:36] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah
[13:36] <seb128> thx
[13:36] <seb128> bug #1892486
[13:37] <seb128> 'Looks like the crash won't ever happen in a normal Ubuntu session so dropped severity.'
[13:37] <seb128> so why did you tag it Daniel?
[13:37] <seb128> it seems an easy one to fix and we should probably do the tweak but not rls I would think
[13:37] <didrocks999> ack
[13:37] <Laney> indeed
[13:38] <seb128> bug #1880508 is still assigned to tseliot but I kept it as a testcase for that filtered tweak bdmurray is supposed to do
[13:38] <oSoMoN> agreed
[13:39] <seb128> that's it for focal incoming
[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:39] <seb128> nothing new there
[13:39] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:40] <seb128> bug #1897224
[13:40] <seb128> that's being discussed upstream and handled by jamesh and duflu
[13:40] <kenvandine> that should be rls 
[13:40] <seb128> Trevinho you might need to help with a cherry pick upload
[13:40] <Laney> seems worth tracking to me, even if not our default session it's pretty important for other distros
[13:41] <Trevinho> ok
[13:41] <seb128> right, needs to land upstream, we can distro patch help other distros...
[13:41] <tseliot> seb128, isn't that a duplicate of LP: #1768499 ?
[13:41] <seb128> but agreed, we need to follow up on that one
[13:41] <Laney> so assign it to jamesh imho
[13:41] <seb128> ack
[13:42] <Trevinho> I was reading that bug upstream, so I felt like it needed some work :)
[13:42] <Trevinho> better if you can ask him to have a look, otherwise I can jump...
[13:42] <seb128> tseliot, could be, I didn't investigate the details, it's just on our list, feel free to dup if appropriate
[13:42] <seb128> Trevinho, k, I will do that then, thanks
[13:42] <seb128> bug #1859308
[13:42] <seb128> that one was also a testbug kept for the filtering improvement
[13:43] <seb128> I will clean to keep only one of those
[13:43] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:43] <seb128> those are assigned
[13:43] <tseliot> ok
[13:43] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:43] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:44] <seb128> xorg-server needs work but t_jaalton said it was on his todolist
[13:44] <luna_> can say that the Firefox 81.0.2 build works running it atm
[13:44] <seb128> luna_, ah, nice one, thank you
[13:44] <oSoMoN> thanks luna_ for the feedback!
[13:45] <seb128> k, that's it for proposed migration
[13:45] <seb128> #topic AOB
[13:45] <seb128> release is next week, ISO testing is happening if you want to join
[13:46] <luna_> seb128: at what time/date ?
[13:46] <Laney> if you know how to make screen reading work for apps run under sudo, come contribute a fix :>
[13:47] <seb128> luna_, no specific date, a bunch of people have been doing installs today
[13:47] <luna_> seb128: ah alright 
[13:47] <seb128> luna_, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/413/builds/221687/testcases
[13:47] <luna_> thx
[13:47] <seb128> issues can be discussed here
[13:47] <seb128> anything else?
[13:48] <seb128> kenvandine, we should discuss how we deal with snaps as a team again at some point, but probably doesn't need to be in the meeting
[13:49] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:49] <seb128> relying on one person to press a button to not have our snap store expire doesn't sound great
[13:49] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: can you add me as contributor to the snap store snap
[13:49] <seb128> no offense to the work you are doing there :)
[13:50] <kenvandine> we do have collaborators there :)
[13:50] <kenvandine> but yeah
[13:50] <seb128> we didn't know who those are
[13:50] <seb128> and they didn't seem to be around or know themselve they are
[13:50] <seb128> anyway, we have a trello card for that now
[13:50] <seb128> anything else to discuss in the meeting?
[13:51] <seb128> k, seems not
[13:51] <kenvandine> oh... you are right, i never added you to that snap
[13:51] <seb128> let's wrap then an go back to iso testing and other work
[13:51] <seb128> thanks desktoppers!
[13:51] <seb128> #endmeeting
[13:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 13 13:51:35 2020 UTC.  
[13:51] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-10-13-13.30.moin.txt
[13:51] <marcustomlinson> thanks
[13:51] <oSoMoN> thanks seb128 
[13:51] <luna_> no problem, joined in the middle as i was doing other things and was not in front of the PC but i read along :) 
[13:58] <seb128> didrocks, jibel, can you help with reviewing https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/fr/302/+translate ? that one could deserve some translator context, I'm unsure to understand how it's used exactly taken out of context as it is there
[13:59] <luna_> seb128: i think its the administrator account to join the AD/Windows/NETBIOS domain, but i might be wrong
[14:01] <seb128> luna_, thanks
[14:30] <luna_> Can't install the latest Atom release on 20.10 
[14:32] <luna_> some depencies is missing gconf-service and gvfs-bin
[14:35] <luna_> but gvfs-bin is deprecated in 20.10, where do i report this issue?
[14:37] <Laney> where's the package from?
[14:38] <luna_> the .deb from the Atom github: https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/download/v1.52.0/atom-amd64.deb https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/tag/v1.52.0
[14:39] <seb128> tracker indexer doesn't seem to do its job correctly for me, if I do
[14:39] <seb128> $ echo isotesting > ~/Documents/todolist
[14:39] <seb128> $ tracker search isotesting
[14:39] <seb128> no result
[14:39] <Laney> then I guess atom
[14:39] <seb128> $ tracker status
[14:40] <seb128> doesn't show a difference before and after creating the file
[14:42] <luna_> Laney: got it too work by installing the latest depencies from Debian sid, but yeah 
[14:42] <luna_> oh well writing a bug report
[14:43] <luna_> https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/21494
[14:44] <seb128> thanks
[14:44] <Laney> nice one
[14:45] <Laney> hopefully they respond, we get these problems when we drop stuff sometimes
[14:45] <Laney> seb128: on the iso? I have some memory that tracker is disabled there, not sure if that's right
[14:45] <Laney> it seems to work for me in the installed system though (new install, just done)
[14:46] <seb128> Laney, no, new install (in a VM but should do a difference)
[14:46] <seb128> it works if I copy that file to ~
[14:46] <Laney> I did echo foo > Documents/bar
[14:46] <Laney> open nautilus
[14:46] <Laney> type foo
[14:46] <Laney> works
[14:47] <seb128> Documents is listed in the list of locations to index though
[14:47] <seb128> k
[14:47] <Laney> tracker status went from 135 to 136 as well
[14:47] <Laney> :( 
[14:48] <seb128> works after restarting tracker-fs-miner
[14:49] <seb128> :/
[14:49] <Laney> BUGSSSSSSSSSS
[15:04] <luna_> Laney: seb128: seems they have fixed it in the 1.53 Beta version 
[15:04] <Laney> 👍
[15:08] <seb128> luna_, great
[15:09] <luna_> put in a request to Wimpress and popey to snap it up too 
[15:15] <seb128> tseliot, do you know what could be writting WaylandEnable=false to /etc/gdm3/custom.conf in the case of nvidia installations?
[15:18] <luna_> thats solved now too
[15:24] <tseliot> seb128, I am trying to remember. I think it used to be nvidia-prime. It definitely isn't the case any more. I don't think Wayland works unless KMS is enabled, and KMS is not enabled by default.
[16:56] <Laney> seb128: found it with Trevinho, gdm has a bug in the meson port that it overwrites this file instead of writing to /run :S
[16:56] <Trevinho> yeah, quite bad regression
[16:56] <Trevinho> ISO TESTING WON!
[17:03] <Trevinho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1899673 
[17:03] <Trevinho> and Ben had fixed it some weeks ago but just because he thought was related to auto-login, didn't get the actual implication for nvidia.
[18:42] <KGB-0> gdm tags 33e4cf0 Marco Trevisan upstream/3.38.1 * Upstream version 3.38.1 * https://deb.li/3ZPBi
[18:42] <KGB-0> gdm upstream/latest d15c4cc Marco Trevisan * pushed 8 commits * https://deb.li/x1Rl
[18:42] <KGB-0> gdm pristine-tar 54e2de9 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3KgnI
[18:56] <seb128> Laney, Trevinho, nice catch!
[18:56] <Trevinho> seb128: I may have it to sponsor soon
[18:56] <seb128> you need a sponsor for gdm?
[19:47] <seb128_> Trevinho, sorry I timeouted earlier, you need sponsoring for gdm?
[19:47] <seb128_> it's annoying that desktop set doens't really cover desktop packages :-/
[20:05] <ItzSwirlz> Oh lol. I use @DebianUpload on twitter to see uploads and I saw the gdm one. :P