 Valorie, I agree with earlier frustration as these issues are difficult to pinpoint the problem packages.
[01:10] <valorie> by chance I just got the onboard sound to work again, maybe because I had to shut down earlier when we lost power
[01:10] <valorie> there was a PA update yesterday I think
 PA?
[01:10] <valorie> but I wish it would just go back to what it was at the beta -- plug in headset, Just Works
 pulseaudio?
[01:11] <valorie> unplug headset, onboard sound Just Works
[01:11] <valorie> PulseAudio
[01:11] <valorie> I guess I could start a Google Meet and see if the cam still works
 Yes, that's the same problem I am fighting. Sometime I have to re-plug my headset dongle 3 times before it works correctly.  Testing neon dev unstable works fine with plasma 5.20, so if it's a KDE issue then fixed are in the pipe.  I don't think its a kernel issues as I Ubuntu 20.10 works fine with the same hw.
 sure, I can help test your  cam if you want.
[01:16] <valorie> it worked yesterday
[01:18] <valorie> yep, works today
 on 20.04 my web cam mic would occasionally turn my voice into Donald Duck.  I had to re-connect the usb plug to fix it or use a different browser.
[01:18] <valorie> you don't even have to join a meeting, just say 'yes, I give permission to use my cam'
[01:18] <valorie> and it starts up
 Ok, very good, then ignore my meeting link in the PM.
[01:22] <valorie> lol
[01:22] <valorie> I host meetings all the time for my genealogy society
[01:23] <valorie> I do like BBB better
[01:23] <valorie> it seems friendlier
[01:23] <valorie> but gMeet works
[01:23] <valorie> and you don't have to install a crappy app
 More flexible with whiteboard type stuff.  I just tried gMeets for the 1st time and it seemed straight forward.
[01:24] <valorie> yep
 For work, I use both Teams and Zoom.  Those apps consume 100's of MB of RAM.  But they work really well on Linux.
[01:25] <valorie> when the lockdowns were imposed, my society already had the non-profit free GSuite, and a friend and I tested it out and advocated for us to use it
[01:25] <valorie> now we have more than one meeting per week, and people from around the US attending
[01:25] <valorie> it's pretty cool
[01:25] <valorie> I hate zoom
 Funny, I like using both of those on Linux better than on my Windows work laptop.
[01:26] <valorie> except the name, which is great
[01:26] <valorie> I hate the app
[01:26] <valorie> it isn't great in the browser, but not horrible
 Zoom is updated on a weekly/bi-weekly basis and sometime they break things.  So I always keep a known good working copy.
[01:27] <valorie> some groups don't allow me to join via the browser tho
 Teams is updated via  PPA, where Zoom requires manual updating.
[01:27] <valorie> I've not used teams
 Due to the excessive number of teams and active conversation I have with people from work, all the Teams processes consume ~800MB  of RAM!
 In a half hour, I have my last Zoom meeting for today ...Working for a global company mandates long days at times...
 Several reconnections of my plantronics headset never succeeded in correctly configuring both mic and  headset, so I am back to strongly considering reverting back to 20.04.... :(
[02:51] <valorie> it worked in the beta
[02:51] <valorie> :(
[02:52] <valorie> usually by messing with the "advanced" settings in pavucontrol I can get things to work
[02:52] <valorie> or sometimes by restarting Chrome
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hi all