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 Has anyone installed Ubuntu Touch on Xiaomi Mi A3?, Can I do this without a PC?
 @Silvershock [Someone somewhere clearly got it to work but for me it seems to constantly reboo …], Uncheck the option to flash the bootloader and boot into the recovery for it
 you also might have to format the cache partition
 Yeah I saw the instructions for those on the wiki but they didn't seem to have any effect.
 [Edit] Yeah I saw the instructions for those on the forum but they didn't seem to have any effect.
 It's a shame. I'd make a fresh image to replace the ones i flashed from XDA Dev, but the repo used to make the images doesn't appear to exist any longer, and the author says it was a "testing project". It ruddy works though.
 maybe is a bug in the current installler, someone in the welcome group had better luck with v 4.8 i think
 @mateosalta [maybe is a bug in the current installler, someone in the welcome group had bette …], if i use an older installer, i still get current code, yeah?
 yeah
 also maybe try the snap if you can, people have the best luck with that I think
 using the snap beta channel yeah
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 @Charlie Malkowski [<reply to media>], Charlie is posting scamms
 Charlie got sent out of room by force
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/1VKiWV0Z.webp
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 pls anyone can advise?
 I am trying to install Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 5
 I have done it with no problems before on nexus 5 as well as 7
 this time it tells me device locked on phone as well as error on computer "not supported in locked device"
 what exactly is locked device or carrier?
 @CSmartly [this time it tells me device locked on phone as well as error on computer "not s …], fastboot oem unlock
 @Flohack [fastboot oem unlock], please be specific what to take
 @CSmartly [please be specific what to take], You need to unlock your bootloader probably. Bring the device into fastboot mode by pressing Vol-Down and PWr until you see the small menu
 Then, connect it to a PC and open a shell and type this command fstboot oem unlock
 yes did that it says locked
 You can google thw whole process
 oh I see..
 but you say its just this one short command
 @dohbee [https://github.com/ubports/utqemu], getting error at cmd: utqemu start … qemu-system-x86_64: -device virtio-vga,virgl=on: Property '.virgl' not found
 @CSmartly [but you say its just this one short command], Its one short command, yes but please google "unlock Nexus 5" and follow the instructions. Its better you can read it in the web I think ;)
 sorry for trivial questions but what is locked - lock by carrier right?
 @suranju410 [getting error at cmd: utqemu start … qemu-system-x86_64: -device virtio-vga,virgl …], either QEMU is too old or compiled without virgl support
 other I did always also said locked when restarted into bootloader but then ubports program in computer fixed it automatically
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 @Flohack [fastboot oem unlock], wow it literally took just that, thank you now I know
 @CSmartly [other I did always also said locked when restarted into bootloader but then ubpo …], No, the UBports Installer cnanot unlock your phone
 That would be potentially dangerous: Unlocking wipes all (Android) data from your phone
 We wont take that responsibility on us. Unlocking needs to be a human decision, with knowning all the consequences
 @Flohack [No, the UBports Installer cnanot unlock your phone], really, I did it alrady on 3 nexus 7 and 2 Nexus 5 fore this one
 and in each case after conecting to ubports installer
 and getting to bootloader
 They must have been already unlocked then
 it was saying locked and asked me if unlock
 i confirmed
 hmmm I dont believe that but Ok maybe :)
 if were it didnt say so
 @neothethird can comment on this
 really I am happy to be wrong but its what I did every time
 but it did ask me on the phone
 I had to select yes unlock
 this is first time other way thus I asked and happy it was simple
 maybe it is someting specific to Nexuses and not same on all devices or so?
 btw, if team ever comes here and takes suggestions - I like how UI evolved after some of the latest updates but I would like option just see wallpapers as well
 when there is multiple apps open if click empty space it should let me just  select none - to have seeminly clean slate
 ^^ There is a bitcoin spammer a few post up that asks for being kicked out.
 done
 Great. Thanks.
 @Flohack [No, the UBports Installer cnanot unlock your phone], yes it can
 @CSmartly [maybe it is someting specific to Nexuses and not same on all devices or so?], if the installer gets an error that can be attributed to the phone being oem-locked, it asks the user if it's okay to run `fastboot oem unlock`. you're not crazy :)
 @CSmartly [when there is multiple apps open if click empty space it should let me just  sel …], i for one agree, but i had a small war with @dohbee over this and lost 🙃
 @CSmartly [this time it tells me device locked on phone as well as error on computer "not s …], you're coming from android? in that case, you might have to boot up the android system again and allow oem unlocking in the settings. some devices are picky that way, before you do that, it won't allow fastboot to lift the oem lock.
 the first installer screen has some information on that, so if you start the installer w/o a device connected, you should see a button that'll take you to a gif and instructions in detail
 I feel like taking a picture of my grouper on Ubuntu preview vs now latest ubports on bacon
 @neothethird [the first installer screen has some information on that, so if you start the ins …], installing done, all works! all I needed to use the command line mentioned above by Florian
 @neothethird [i for one agree, but i had a small war with @dohbee over this and lost 🙃], it was just one battle .. we win the war :) eventually
 honestly i am now again frustrated by this
 having phone in hand
 opened 3 apps and cant basically go "home"
 i have to be on one of them even I put phone on table and disengage
 @CSmartly [installing done, all works! all I needed to use the command line mentioned above …], huh, but that's what the installer does, too. weird.
 guys really please keep discussing it, good things is that both could have it
 there could be setting option
 We don't want to become KDE with too many options like that, I'm afraid
 to enable wallpepar-home as an option to select in open apps menu
 [Edit] We don't want to become Plasma with too many options like that, I'm afraid
 I understand just voicing my view i think as now its flawed design
 imagine I am eating with friends checkign 3 apps.. back and forth
 then put phone on table to eat
 i was forced to leave on one app
 put your phone in the pocket when you're out with your friends :P
 jk
 haaha
 well even when nobody around
 i dont see benefit of tihs except for battery
 beause it pushes me to close all apps
 You could use a long left edge swipe to open the drawer over everything if that's a concern
 yes I am aware
 but then I am in apps hahaa
 I wish I could just have clear slate
 you know different people like different things and I get it no tto be KDE
 but this may be topic really where opinion will be 50 50
 among people
 and I dare to say the one I suggest is the default intuinive one that everyone expects it would work
 now I would even let person to chose option to have only wallpaper not even side menu (that can be pulled)
 in idela world
 so clean
 just your wallpaper
 that would go we with simplicity philosphy and ease of use
 and kept Ubuntu Touch original
 yes Sailfish has also just wallpeper and menu can be pulled from button but hat menu hides automatically very qucik
 in Ubuntu Touch case could stay unless pulled back
 and also
 (Sticker, 496x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0Svt39Nx.webp
 in Sailfish OS  slate is never really clean because anyting you open is right there
 Ubuntu Touch wild let me to have just wallpaper yet opened many apps quick to access
 and no toggle needed for left side menu if hide or pull - can be done with pull - back and forth
 if hiding it becomes hard to work with and catch to do what u intend to do
 (again sialfish experience it hides too quick)
 Since you are writing a lot, your opinion might be voiced best here: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2579/i-wanna-go-home
 ok thank you
 @amyosx [I feel like taking a picture of my grouper on Ubuntu preview vs now latest ubpor …], OK got 13.04 PC to work
 I'll update to 14
 And see if I can get mainline to work too
 one more note- that seems inconstency a bit .. when phone is locked I can pull the menu from right side and hide (with no timer)
 once I am in all is same but menu must be there
 wish I can do the same swipe it out from left or back to right anytime I wish
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 Is there a way to compile ubports recovery without the rest of Ubuntu touch
 Like the minimal twrp manifest
 Probably not, there's a lot of AOSP components required for building a functional recovery.
 Also it would mean maintaining two manifests and their respective combination of software repos.
 basing on TWRP manifest may work, but someone needs to do it and fix possible problems
 @amyosx [Is there a way to compile ubports recovery without the rest of Ubuntu touch], Whats the usecase?
 @Flohack [Whats the usecase?], I just wanna try ubports recovery on krillin
 I'm gonna go insane if I don't try
 I think I have a build
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/oLcBQ8Ak.png
 TWRP
 Replaced with ubports recovery
 https://t.me/joinchat/ObVnsRsHxby4ybAG29TCQQ
 For all my screaming and buggy builds
 Well where is Yumi 😆
 @Flohack [Well where is Yumi 😆], S0n
 It was just a test to see if the tree worked
 :P
 I'm now cloning cm so I can build ubports recovery
 Didn't work with minimal manifest
 Hmm maybe better you move this discussion to porting channel? 90% of people here have no idea what you are talking about ;)
 @Flohack [Hmm maybe better you move this discussion to porting channel? 90% of people here …], Ahh ok
 I made a group as well but if u think its good there
 Well it can be group also, but I am already in 50 groups, I am very reluctant to join new ones ^^
 @Flohack [Well it can be group also, but I am already in 50 groups, I am very reluctant to …], Also why is 4 of your profile pictures been the same just different crop?
 @Flohack [Well it can be group also, but I am already in 50 groups, I am very reluctant to …], Makes sense
 You can advertise your stuff here, but I would keep detail discussions out
 @Flohack [You can advertise your stuff here, but I would keep detail discussions out], OK
 @amyosx [Also why is 4 of your profile pictures been the same just different crop?], wut?
 I dont remember xD
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 (Photo, 610x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/gIYE4CaO.png
 Lol
 guys..
 Thanks yes. Please keep tzhis out
 @Flohack [Thanks yes. Please keep tzhis out], Sorry
 Its totally offtopic, here are over 3000 people!
[12:24] <ubptgbot> <Anaan Ahamad taha> too long ?
 Halium has a manifest for krillin
 Hmmm
 @amyosx [Halium has a manifest for krillin], Probably a fake
 @Flohack [Probably a fake], Needs Mount point fixing
 @Flohack [Probably a fake], And it is in main halium
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 @Flohack [Probably a fake], I built
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 hmmm, seems it still is not possible to click on a locally downloaded html file in the File Manager and have the option to open it in Morph, and it also seems entering a local url in Morph to file:///home/phablet/Documents/localhtmlfile.html is not working either (I get a Network error, permission denied message).  Is there anything I
[22:59] <ubptgbot> am missing in my attempts on this, or is it confirmed these are absent features in UT currently?
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