[00:17] <callmepk> goood morning
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[05:10] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[05:17] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[05:28] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you?
[05:33] <duflu> seb128, kind of average. Long enough sleep but low quality. How are you?
[05:58] <callmepk> good morning seb128 and good afternoon duflu 
[05:58] <duflu> Afternoon callmepk 
[06:02] <jibel> seb128, hi, when you released ubiquity-slideshow for focal did you do it from trunk?
[06:02] <jibel> there are changes in trunk from early april that don't seem to be in focal
[06:03] <jibel> and updates of translations are not in trunk
[06:10] <jibel> this is the diff https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T5PsDBjmmP/
[06:11] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[06:11] <jibel> translations differ and a couple of htlm files
[06:11] <jibel> Good morning duflu 
[06:11] <duflu> Seb beat you to the #firstpost today :)
[06:11] <jibel> yeah, I've been lazy saying good morning today
[06:12] <duflu> To be fair those mornings of yours I would still call night
[06:12] <jibel> lets say it's early morning
[06:13] <jibel> I wake up between 5 and 6, after a coffee, ranting with myself about news of the world, I then start working
[06:20] <seb128> lut jibel 
[06:20] <seb128> hey callmepk 
[06:21] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright, got waken up at 6am though so feeling a bit tired
[06:21] <seb128> jibel, no, I reverted a commit that was changing a string since that would have invalidated some of the translations
[06:22] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/focal
[06:39] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:49] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN 
[06:59] <jibel> seb128, so I should first merge translations from focal (commmit 878 and 879) into trunk, then push trunk to /groocy, right?
[06:59] <jibel> groovy*
[07:00] <jibel> just this file actually po/ubuntukylin/zh_CN.po
[07:02] <jibel> and commit 877 too
[07:02] <jibel> which diverged from trunk
[07:02]  * jibel is tempted to move the project to git
[07:06] <didrocks> good morning
[07:06] <duflu> Hi didrocks 
[07:07] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[07:07] <jibel> slaut didrocks 
[07:16] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk seb128 duflu jibel oSoMoN didrocks and other desktoppers
[07:16] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:16] <luna_> morning
[07:19] <duflu> Hi luna_ 
[07:19] <jibel> Salut marcustomlinson 
[07:19] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, re jibel 
[07:24] <callmepk> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:27] <jibel> seb128, have removing free software and memtest from the boot menu been discussed with desktop? 
[07:27] <jibel> I don't recall any discussion, but I may have missed something
[08:03] <Laney> yo
[08:03] <seb128> jibel, Steve was under the impression it had been discussed at the focal release sprint but I didn't join that one, maybe Laney does remember?
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:04] <seb128> speaking of who
[08:04] <seb128> hey Laney , how are you?
[08:04] <didrocks> salut seb128 
[08:04] <seb128> lut didrocks, hey other desktopers I didn't greet earlier
[08:04] <Laney> moin seb128 and didrocks and jibel 
[08:04] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[08:04] <Laney> don't remember that, I think I would have said that it should be discussed more widely
[08:04] <seb128> jibel, re the slideshow, if there is a string change in trunk compared to what is in the archive so yes
[08:05] <jibel> I'll reply it hasn't been discussed
[08:05] <seb128> thx
[08:06] <jibel> seb128, I merged translation changes from focal into trunk but there was some pending string changed in trunk that should have been in focal and will be untranslated
[08:06] <jibel> seb128, how do you wan to proceeed? do a release with the new mascot and images anyway?
[08:06] <jibel> and refresh the translation like early next week
[08:06] <jibel> want*
[08:07] <jibel> I can push to /groovy and then someone sponsors an upload to groovy from thre
[08:07] <seb128> I don't understand the situation, let me see what is in trunk
[08:07] <seb128> I would take the current ubuntu package version
[08:07] <seb128> and replace the image
[08:07] <seb128> and not touch anything else
[08:07] <jibel> well, everything is in the vcs
[08:08] <seb128> (or maybe just do a translation export from launchpad to get new strings)
[08:08] <seb128> let me look groovy vs vcs
[08:08] <jibel> seb128, what I'm saying is that bdmurray fixed some typos in trunk which had not been pushed to the focal branch and the focal branch is what is in the archive
[08:09] <jibel> so there'll be some translation to redo
[08:09] <seb128> we should use the trunk branch, the only reason we made a focal one was to avoid uploading the string break that was in trunk at the time
[08:10] <jibel> okay
[08:11] <seb128> but the situation is going to be the same again, the focal and groovy package are identic
[08:11] <seb128> which means you didn't do an upload post focal to get the string change out
[08:11] <seb128> jibel, so yeah, I would just push /focal to /groovy and commit the artwork change and upload that
[08:12] <seb128> then when H opens we can upload was is staged in trunk
[08:12] <seb128> does it make sense?
[08:16] <jibel> at this stage of the release it does
[08:16] <jibel> let me do that
[08:17] <jibel> someone make to note somewhere to release trunk to H as soon as it opens so we don't end up in the same situation next cycle
[08:17] <jibel> makes a note*
[08:17] <Laney> trello !!!
[08:17] <jibel> what?
[08:18] <seb128> I will create a card for it and assign myself
[08:19] <didrocks> (and assign to Laney, kthxbye) :)
[08:19] <seb128> ;p
[08:19] <Laney> I love Launchpad karma
[08:19] <seb128> jibel, I can do the slideshow upload once the vcs is updated
[08:20] <jibel> thanks
[08:21] <jibel> I'll tell you when it's done
[08:24] <seb128> Laney, was that IS problem what caused Trevinho to not get an email for his rejected uploads on saturday?
[08:25] <Laney> it caused nobody to get mails, so yes :-)
[08:26] <seb128> Trevinho, in case you are still wondered what happened there, it was not your email setup being buggy but the launchpad one, upload rejection emailed failed to go out
[08:27] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah :)
[08:27] <Trevinho> I noticed, I got plenty of mails last night
[08:27] <seb128> Trevinho, ola, how are you? ;)
[08:27] <Trevinho> hey!
[08:28] <Trevinho> All good :)
[08:28] <Trevinho> you?
[08:28] <seb128> I'm alright! it's quiet and sunny here today :-)
[08:38] <Laney> Trevinho on phone DETECTED
[08:38] <Trevinho> nope, youreee wronggggggggggg
[08:39] <Laney> bah
[08:39] <Trevinho> https://i.imgur.com/YKZoXfm.png :P
[08:44] <jibel> seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/groovy
[08:53] <jibel> didrocks, bug 1899842
[08:53] <ubot5> bug 1899842 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crashes (ZFS+encryption;automatic scheme)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899842
[08:53] <seb128> jibel, uploaded
[08:53] <jibel> do you see what went wrong?
[08:53] <jibel> seb128, excellent, thanks!
[08:54] <seb128> np!
[08:54] <jibel> didrocks, there is a "failed to mount /target" but I don't see why
[08:55] <didrocks> jibel: do you think it can be due to property 'encryption' specified multiple times ?
[08:55] <didrocks> weird, was working well on Tuesday
[08:55] <didrocks> so, either a racy bug or…
[08:56] <seb128> didrocks, jibel, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/502055995/CasperMD5CheckMismatches.txt
[08:56] <seb128> it feels like the ISO is corrupted
[08:56] <seb128> also
[08:56] <seb128>  Package: ubiquity 20.10.11 [modified: usr/share/ubiquity/zsys-setup]
[08:57] <seb128> the modified file is weid, probably another read error?
[08:57] <didrocks> the user upgraded
[08:57] <didrocks> but that shouldn’t impact that file, no?
[08:58] <didrocks> when is CasperMD5CheckMismatches generated? boot time or when there is a failure ?
[08:58] <didrocks> well even ./casper/filesystem.squashfs, so not related to the upgrade
[10:21] <duflu> oSoMoN, I've been using MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 on groovy and after adding some debug logging to mutter just noticed Firefox is actually using Wayland in software mode. That's slightly disappointing. I wonder if it will improve in future
[10:23]  * duflu shrugs and goes to make dinner
[10:40] <KGB-0> gdm signed tags d51507f Iain Lane ubuntu/3.38.1-2ubuntu1 * gdm3 Debian release 3.38.1-2ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3sizg
[10:40] <KGB-0> gdm ubuntu/master d404404 Iain Lane debian/gdm3.preinst * preinst: Fix the bug link * https://deb.li/DXIz
[10:40] <KGB-0> gdm ubuntu/master 82e1f8d Iain Lane debian/gdm3.preinst * Fix preinst again * https://deb.li/iQZNg
[10:40] <KGB-0> gdm ubuntu/master 0ff291a Iain Lane debian/gdm3.preinst * Merge branch 'debian/master' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/CiuG
[10:40] <KGB-0> gdm ubuntu/master cda31a3 Iain Lane debian/changelog * Finalise changelog * https://deb.li/3cSSM
[12:50] <fidencio> didrocks: hey/ping. JFYI, I'm rolling out an osinfo-db now, should be ready for you to use on the next ubuntu in ~30 minutes or so.
[13:13] <fidencio> didrocks: https://releases.pagure.org/libosinfo/osinfo-db-20201015.tar.xz and https://releases.pagure.org/libosinfo/osinfo-db-20201015.tar.xz.asc
[13:13] <fidencio> didrocks: have fun!
[13:38] <didrocks> fidencio: thx a lot :)
[13:40] <fidencio> didrocks: anytime!
[14:10] <Laney> systemd-oomd just got merged
[14:10] <Laney> exciting times!
[14:39] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:39] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[14:40] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[14:41] <hellsworth> i there marcustomlinson oSoMoN 
[14:49] <jibel> Good morning hellsworth 
[14:52] <seb128> Laney, I didn't read much about it, does it make any user visible difference?
[14:52] <seb128> like being less random in what gets oomed?
[15:00] <Trevinho> Laney: yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
[15:00] <Trevinho> seb128: I'm not sure, but I get quite hard hit by OOM at times, so force-rebooting isn't nice at all in such cases :-/
[15:00] <Trevinho> even with 32GB when I've some vms and compiling c++ code can be annoying
[15:01] <seb128> byt like of it rather no?
[15:01] <Laney> I don't know about less/more random, but it does it earlier in the process before your system dies
[15:01] <seb128> e.g machine slowing down so much you can't do anything for like 10 minutes until it decides to axe something
[15:02] <KGB-0> gdm Marco Trevisan 197107 * commented commit 82e1f8d * https://deb.li/3NI3h
[15:02] <seb128> by lack of it rather*
[15:02] <Laney> it does have some more controls too
[15:02] <seb128> I googled and saw that service can opt in for it
[15:03] <Laney> and it's per-cgroup too
[15:03] <seb128> sounds like a nice way to tell to the system things that are important and can be stopped first if needed
[15:40] <juliank> tkamppeter: so, question, how can i force cups to never pause a printer?
[15:40] <juliank> tkamppeter: like just had this again - my mum couldn't print because the printer was paused and then obviously retried that 10 times
[15:43] <juliank> I mean, the policy is set to retry-job
[20:08] <seb128> jibel, didrocks, Laney, small follow up since that come every now and then, I've added a section 'Updating the translations' to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity
[20:54] <karlthane> Ok hopefully someone can help. Installed 20.04 with the guide from openzfs.org ( needed more than single drive ) software center didn't get installed, found that, but apt cant find steam
[20:55] <oerheks> get the steam installer from their site?
[20:57] <oerheks> or wait, it is in our repos 
[20:57] <oerheks> !info steam-installer
[20:57] <ubot5> 'focal' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed
[20:57] <sarnold> go home ubot you're drunk
[20:57] <oerheks> yeah, covid probably
[21:10] <karlthane> It is in the repos and when I try to install it, I get "steam-installer : Depends: steam (= 1:1.0.0.61-2ubuntu3) but it is not installable
[21:11] <oerheks> must be there .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam
[21:11] <oerheks> multiverse repo
[21:11] <karlthane> Which  it tells me is enabled.