[20:09] <jouni65[m]> every time I open Ardour session in Ubuntu Studio 20.10 it crashes. If I start Ardour in safe mode it works ,but all plugins have info" This plugin is not available available on this system  and has been repalced by a stub.  I have to replace all plugins and  they work till next time Ardour is (re)started.
[20:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> jouni65: Were you using Ardour 5 previously?
[20:12] <jouni65[m]> I was
[20:12] <oerheks> ajan, fix your connection please
[20:14] <Eickmeyer[m]> jouni65: That's why. Ardour 6 is what's in 20.10. The file formats are incompatible. This was outlined at https://ubuntustudio.org/2020/06/ardour-6-0-information/.
[20:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> ajan: If you don't fix your connection, I will have to kick you from this room.
[20:22] <jouni65[m]> "once a 5.12 project is opened in 6.0, it is converted to a 6.0 project and cannot be used in 5.12 again unless restored from a backup."
[20:22] <jouni65[m]> I thought opening a old sessions it would be converted , plugins included, but I can understand that with new DSP the plugins may be too much to ask at least as of now.
[20:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> No, plugins are not included. They must be installed in order for that to work. We removed a number of plugins by default from Ubuntu Studio this cycle, including the Calf plugins, which are no longer compatible with Ardour.
[20:23] <jouni65[m]> Got it, thanks
[20:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> :thumbsup: