[00:36] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:26] <ducasse> good morning
[13:48] <sumagna> anybody uses budgie desktop environment with default ubuntu (not ubuntu budgie)?
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: do you mean you want to install budgie ontop ubuntu-desktop?
[13:54] <sumagna> i want to do this-> https://itsfoss.com/install-budgie-ubuntu/
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: what we often advice on installing flavour desktops ontop other base ubuntu is this work pretty well to install, but might give you errors on some cases when trying to purge it
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: your system might get into a mix of both worlds
[13:57] <sumagna> i dont want to mess up the gnome one as it will be there as a failsafe
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: so, if you like a flavour its adviced to install it clean
[13:58] <sumagna> should i follow the above given guide of itsfoss?
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: if you understand the risks of having a frankensystem of both, you can
[14:12] <sumagna> what are the maximum risks which are going to be taken in this whole thing
[14:12] <sumagna> ?
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: installing and testing flavour desktop over each other is cool for testing purposes and having multiple desks
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: however, when trying to purge the desktops, we see often users with remaining leftovers so they end up with a mixed system
[14:26] <sumagna> what to do if that happens in my case?
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: you end up with a mixed system thats all
[14:32] <sumagna> i know that
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: make a backup of your data and just test things out, its the best school
[14:33] <sumagna> shouldnt i purge one of them correctly
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: thats what im trying to tell you, purging some of them might leave leftovers
[14:41] <sumagna> i am talking about cleaning those leftovers
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: you can try, but it might not be easy and give you unwanted behaviour
[14:44] <sumagna> the guide i sent is good?
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: yeah the guide seems rather clean to me
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: but a lot of online guides are just generalizing things, but in reality we often see different results
[14:45] <sumagna> yea
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: ive tryed it with ubuntu desktop, install kubuntu, mate and lubuntu for example
[14:46] <sumagna> i followed itsfoss guides earlier and they seemed pretty good then
[14:46] <sumagna> most of the times it worked
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> after purging a desktop i had a mixed gnome/kde system or gnome with greenish folders and boot logo with mate etc
[15:04] <sumagna> lotuspsychje: should i keep this handy? -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/961580/completely-remove-budgie
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: you can, did you read this; There are a few recommended packages also that are installed with ubuntu-budgie-desktop that will not be removed with the above command - but you can deal with those separately if you so wish.
[15:08] <sumagna> thats why i asked
[15:08] <sumagna> how to find those packages?
[15:08] <sumagna> if they are not removed on its own?
[15:09] <oerheks> apt autoremove, apt clean..
[15:09] <oerheks> if not, why bother? cannot be much diskspace
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: instead of all the hassle around, you could just liveusb or virtualbox a budgie iso for testing things out?
[15:11] <sumagna> thats a great idea actually
[15:11] <sumagna> will have to find a pendrive then
[16:44] <sumagna> hey lotuspsychje can you hook me up with a download or a link where i can download a budgie iso from?
[16:46] <daftykins> the first result on search engines will point you to their website where it's available
[16:46] <daftykins> in fact you could have typed fewer characters than asking
[16:52] <Maik> sumagna: https://ubuntubudgie.org/downloads/
[17:49] <sumagna> no not that....
[17:49] <sumagna> anyways this will work
[17:50] <sumagna> i was talking about installing budgie DE on default ubuntu, daftykins
[17:51] <sumagna> i was not talking about installing ubuntu budgie
[17:51] <sumagna> anyways it will work for testing out
[17:52] <daftykins> but you don't get an ISO to add it to an existing install...
[17:52] <sumagna> is there anything different in ubuntu budgie from the normal budgie DE
[17:52] <sumagna> ?
[17:54] <sumagna_> Is there anything different daftykins ?
[17:57] <sumagna_> Or is ubuntu budgie using the budgie DE without any customisations???
[17:57] <oerheks> what is 'normal' budgie?
[17:59] <sumagna_> By normal, I meant the budgie DE
[17:59] <oerheks> i hope installing budgie and ubuntu-budgie iso are the same..
[17:59] <oerheks> let us know if they are different :-P
[18:00] <sumagna_> I wanted to test the budgie DE out before installing it on my default ubuntu installation
[18:05] <daftykins> so boot a live session
[18:05] <sumagna_> Going to do that
[18:11] <sumagna_> And I didn't mean the installation is different BTW.
[18:12] <sumagna_> I asked if the budgie interface, which can be installed in default ubuntu from the package 'ubuntu-budgie-desktop', is different from the budgie interface in ubuntu budgie
[18:12] <oerheks> .. i hope not.
[18:13] <sumagna_> Then its ok
[18:13] <oerheks> maybe an other distro with budgie gives some unique looks
[18:13] <sumagna_> Mightbe
[18:13] <oerheks> Noo, basicly the iso or the desktop meta package gives the same.
[18:14] <oerheks> Still, i would install side-by-side, to avoid clutter of programms.
[18:18] <sumagna_> Then testing ubuntu budgie will be like testing budgie DE
[18:19] <sumagna_> 😎
[18:30] <sumagnadas> hello