[00:00] <Ntemis> @Bashing-om it works liked a charm
[00:00] <Ntemis> thanks buddy
[00:00] <Ntemis> system is much faster now on 4k
[00:01] <Ntemis> you are a treasure
[00:01] <Ntemis> thanks again for your time helping me out on this
[00:02] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: Great - help is what we do - remember - there can be only ONE. And "dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P" is a good command to put in your tool box :P
[00:03] <Bashing-om> Gone :(
[00:04] <sarnold> gone but happy :) heh
[00:19] <tomreyn> baegle: how are you coming?
[00:21] <baegle> tomreyn: not ready to reboot to find out. Trying to find a way to assess if update-initramfs and grub-install have made any material changes. I'm really not sure how to test without a reboot.
[00:23] <tomreyn> baegle: if you have any initrd's left from before you manually ran update-initramfs, you could compare to those
[00:23] <baegle> tomreyn: I found this article and I'm trying to figure out how to learn from it https://askubuntu.com/questions/551446/cant-find-lvm-root-dropped-back-to-initramfs
[00:23] <tomreyn> baegle: other than that, you could inspect one and see whether it has the needed binaries in it, and the crypttab and fstab
[00:24] <ash_worksi> I just tried using the kali contaienr
[00:24] <baegle> tomreyn: it does not have /etc/crypttab in it
[00:24] <tomreyn> baegle: so the error was really that it could not find the lvm when you booted last time? i.e. it didn't say the encryption layer was an issue, and you were prompted for the passphrase?
[00:24] <tomreyn> oh, no crypttab, no decryption, i guess
[00:24] <baegle> tomreyn: I was not prompted for the passphrase
[00:24] <ash_worksi> it doesn't appear to have any of the cli tools listed here: https://tools.kali.org/tools-listing
[00:26] <tomreyn> baegle: actually i'm wrong about crypttab, it's not added to the initrd.
[00:27] <tomreyn> but its content is still important for it
[00:27] <baegle> tomreyn: The crypttab has the correct UUID, AFAICT
[00:27] <tomreyn> baegle: so if you weren't prompted for the encryption passphrase then you don't need to concern yourself with the lvm for now, but with the encryption layer - it's the first one that needs to be opened.
[00:28] <baegle> tomreyn: Yeah, it can't find the logical volume because it's not even trying to decrypt the luks volume to find the logical volume within. And I don't know why
[00:29] <tomreyn> baegle: me enither, since i don't know your blkid and crypttab and fstab
[00:30] <baegle> tomreyn: standby, will get you that
[00:30] <tomreyn> hmm, maybe you just missed this line earlier?  <tomreyn> baegle: can you share    blkid    and    grep -hEv '^[[:blank:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/lvm/*.conf    output and the contents of /etc/{crypt,fs}tab ?
[00:34] <baegle> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/4veu
[00:34] <reaga> ubuntu crashed when i tried to install it
[00:34] <reaga> i want a refund
[00:35] <baegle> reaga: Granted
[00:35] <reaga> thanks
[00:35] <baegle> reaga: You're very welcome
[00:35] <baegle> tomreyn: whoops, gotta get you the lvm configs, standby
[00:36] <sarnold> reaga: the bug report I see most often is people running the installer in UEFI mode but not having a EFI filesystem on their drive
[00:37] <baegle> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/y72t
[00:39] <reaga> kubuntu and mint installed fine but ubuntu just died, i think ill give it another shot but disable some options when installing
[00:40] <baegle> reaga: try disabling the "crash on first run" option during installation
[00:40] <tomreyn> baegle: i'm not sure you need them, but those cifs mounts lack dump and pass fields
[00:41] <tomreyn> baegle: i'd probably just comment those lines out until the system boots properly
[00:41] <baegle> tomreyn: they are noauto
[00:41] <tomreyn> oh whoops
[00:41] <baegle> But yes, I can comment them out
[00:42] <baegle> So, interesting comment from sarnold. I don't have an EFI filesystem on my drive, I don't think. Is that a possible problem?
[00:43] <tomreyn> depends on how you're meaning to boot
[00:43] <baegle> Pretty sure I'm just doing straight BIOS because I don't need fancy
[00:44] <baegle> And I've been using this with Ubuntu without an EFI filesystem for years, so....
[00:44] <tomreyn> you do have short partition uuids, which suggests an mbr partition table
[00:45] <baegle> yeah, that sounds like something I remember doing back in day
[00:45] <baegle> well, I guess I'm just gonna reboot and see what happens
[00:45] <baegle> back in 10m
[00:45] <tomreyn> crypttab seems fine to me
[00:45] <sarnold> baegle: hmm if you've got a systm where debconf had incorrect configuration settings for where to install grub (a surprising number of people did), you may need to do some corrective steps.. these instructions were prepared for 'simple' systems, but may be useful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/GRUB2SecureBootBypass#Recovery
[00:45]  * baegle skrrrt
[00:46] <baegle> sarnold: What would the symptoms of this be, though? Seems like Grub is loading just fine for me. It just doesn't know what to do.
[00:47] <baegle> sarnold: It doesn't prompt to decrypt my volume before trying to use it and then, of course, can't find my volume group and then gets down with the busybox
[00:48] <tomreyn> baegle: is cryptsetup installed ?
[00:48] <baegle> tomreyn: And reinstalled
[00:50] <tomreyn> baegle: can you show    apt list --installed linux* grub* crypt*
[00:50] <sarnold> baegle: this describes the symptoms of that grub misconfiguration https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1889509  "error: symbol `grub_calloc' not found."
[00:50] <baegle> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/w7ij
[00:51] <baegle> sarnold: I do not enter grub rescue. I get the grub menu just fine. It's the boot sequence for the image that fails
[00:52] <sarnold> baegle: alright, cool
[00:53] <baegle> sarnold: Thanks for calling it out. I appreciate you looking out for me
[00:54] <sarnold> baegle: and good job noticing my comment to someone else and wondering if it applied :) it's good instinct, pity it did'nt pay off :(
[00:54] <baegle> Linux never pays. unless you're redhat. or SCO
[00:54] <tomreyn> baegle: the package list looks good to me if you're bios booting
[00:55] <baegle> tomreyn: I think i'll just reboot and come back here and cry into your shoulder when it doesn't work if that's alright with you
[00:55] <tomreyn> sure, let me get my rain jacket quickly
[00:56] <baegle> Cool. You do that. I'll reboot and practice breathing deeply
[01:02] <baegle> Tomreyn: Failure
[01:02] <baegle> Prepare thy shoulder
[01:02] <tomreyn> :-/
[01:03] <tomreyn> so what do you get to see there?
[01:03] <baegle> Volume group "xubuntu" not found
[01:03] <baegle> Same as it ever was
[01:03] <tomreyn> so it drops you to busybox, with this message?
[01:03] <baegle> After timeout is reached
[01:03] <baegle> Yes
[01:05] <tomreyn> hmm, we didn't check whether lvm2 is installed, can you check this after setting up the chroot?
[01:05] <tomreyn> lsinitramfs should have    sbin/lvm   too
[01:06] <baegle> It is, but I forgot to grub-install this time
[01:06] <tomreyn> maybe just post your lsinitramfs and i can compare with one i have for such a system
[01:06] <tomreyn> you don't need to grub-install if the verion of grub you have installed is good
[01:06] <tomreyn> *version
[01:07] <tomreyn> and it's installed at the right place (mbr in your case)
[01:07] <baegle> Reinstalling lvm2
[01:08] <tomreyn> maybe you can share your lsinitramfs, too, and i can compare to a similar system i have access to
[01:08] <baegle> Yah
[01:10] <baegle3> https://termbin.com/bjkq
[01:11] <baegle> baegle3 is cool, he's with me
[01:12] <sarnold> lol
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> an irc pet, thats new :p
[01:18] <baegle> Unfortunately he's pretty slow and can't fix the damn boot loader
[01:18] <baegle3> I'm trying!
[01:21] <baegle3> But seriously folks I cannot figure out why the initrd image doesn't try to decrypt the disk before stupidly looking for volumes it won't find
[01:22] <mason> baegle3: Haven't followed, but did you set the initramfs in /etc/crypttab?
[01:22] <tomreyn> baegle3: i'm still comparing, but my 18.04 system has conf/conf.d/cryptroot but your 20,04 system does not
[01:22] <mason> baegle3: That's the flag that tells the initramfs to deal with a cryptdisk.
[01:23] <baegle3> mason: what now? there's a crypttab flag for reminding initramfs to pay attention now?
[01:24] <sarnold> here's what I've got in my /etc/crypttab
[01:24] <mason> baegle3: initramfs tag
[01:24] <sarnold> luks1 UUID=8fda5814-5cf7-404b-9339-54088c28911b none luks,discard,initramfs
[01:24] <mason> baegle3: for example: luksroot2 UUID=cd5d000e-9008-4b8b-8d99-645841e6c4ec none luks,initramfs
[01:24] <mason> that initramfs tag is what says to care during initramfs
[01:25] <mason> without that, it won't be tried
[01:25] <baegle3> Well I'll be a monkey's uncle
[01:25] <baegle> More like a monkey
[01:25] <sarnold> MONKEY
[01:26] <baegle3> mason: if that works, I'm going to be very something
[01:26] <baegle3> brb, rebooting
[01:28] <baegle> Good, he's gone. God I hate that guy
[01:28] <baegle> Bah. Didn't work. Same error
[01:28] <sarnold> he told me he likes you :(
[01:28] <mason> hah
[01:29] <baegle> Ok, now I'm gonna hangout in busybox and talk to y'all from my mobile device
[01:29] <baegle> Which is a blackberry running android, for those who care about physical keyboards
[01:29] <tomreyn> baegle: there is no "lib/cryptsetup/askpass" in your initrd
[01:29] <baegle> My laptop has given up waiting for the device. I am now in busybox
[01:30] <baegle> tomreyn: where would I find that while in busybox. Lib doesn't have a cryptsetup here
[01:31] <tomreyn> baegle: on 18.04, i think the path would be just lib/cryptsetup/askpass
[01:32] <tomreyn> baegle: i'll compare with a 20.04 with cryptsetup-luks now
[01:32] <mason> baegle: Did you update-initramfs after changing crypttab?
[01:32] <baegle> Mason: yes
[01:32] <mason> hrm
[01:33] <tomreyn> yes i have lib/cryptsetup/askpass on the 20.04
[01:33] <baegle> Cryptsetup is nowhere in busybox using find+grep
[01:33] <baegle> Ok, rebooting into rescue disk
[01:33] <baegle> And spawning that stupid pet again
[01:38] <baegle71> I'm baaaaaaaaack
[01:39]  * baegle applies palm to face
[01:39] <tomreyn> to the chroot?
[01:39] <baegle71> tomreyn: I just got the livecd rolling, gimme a couple seconds to get the chroot up
[01:40] <tomreyn> sure. once you'Re ready, tell us how exactly you update the initramfs
[01:42] <baegle71> update-initramfs -c -k all
[01:43] <tomreyn> ok, i guess this should work
[01:43] <tomreyn> normally i'd only update the one that the system will boot into, so the others don't get overwritten
[01:43] <baegle71> lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img|grep cryptsetup     returns nothing
[01:44] <tomreyn> yes, this is wrong, now i still don't understand why it is so.
[01:44] <baegle71> wait a minute
[01:44] <baegle71> apt reinstall cryptsetup-initramfs
[01:45] <baegle71> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-51-generic
[01:45] <baegle71> cryptsetup: WARNING: target 'linux' not found in /etc/crypttabcryptsetup: ERROR: sda5_crypt: Source mismatchdevice-mapper: table ioctl on sda5_crypt  failed: No such device or addressCommand failed.cryptsetup: WARNING: Couldn't determine cipher modules to load for sda5_crypt
[01:46] <baegle71> omg
[01:46] <tomreyn> you didn't have this error message before?
[01:47] <baegle71> I didn't try to reinstall that package before, or if I did I missed the error output
[01:47] <tomreyn> hmm, now i'm not sure what it wants to tell us, though
[01:49] <baegle> I have no idea how this happened, but somehow the volume name was linux and the config thought it was sda5_crypt
[01:49] <tomreyn> sda5_crypt is what you have in crypttab, i think
[01:50] <tomreyn> volume lables should not matter
[01:50] <baegle> It mattered
[01:50] <baegle> I'm back baby!
[01:51] <tomreyn> yeay, i can go to bed!
[01:51] <baegle> Tomreyn: thank you!
[01:51] <tomreyn> you're welcome :)
[01:51] <baegle> I learned more, and I fixed it, thanks to you knowing where to look
[01:51] <baegle> Sarnold: thank you!
[01:52] <baegle> Mason: thank you!
[01:52] <tomreyn> i'm not sure how this occurred exactly, it'd be interesting to learn more about it if you know
[01:52] <tomreyn> but other than that, i'm glad you got it booting again.
[01:52] <mason> baegle: nice nice
[01:52] <baegle> I really don't know
[01:52] <tomreyn> alright
[01:52] <sarnold> baegle: YAY!!
[01:52] <sarnold> baegle: nice persistence :)
[01:53] <sarnold> baegle: what exactly did you need to change to make it work?
[01:54] <baegle> sarnold: I changed /etc/crypttab, the first word was sda5_crypt but the luks volume was called linux. So I changed the first word to linux and it worked
[01:54] <sarnold> baegle: sweeet. thanks.
[01:54] <sarnold> man :( where was that error message hours ago?
[01:55] <sarnold> !cookie tomreyn
[01:55] <sarnold> oh man. I thoght we had a bot for that.
[01:55] <baegle> It only came up when I reinstalled cryptsetup-initramfs
[01:55] <tomreyn> yes, but it likes to smoke pipes
[01:56] <mason> baegle: Strategy note: the first field is referenced by random things as /dev/mapper/foo. So, some things that care about that will use it.
[01:57] <sarnold> oo
[02:03] <baegle> Ok, I'm heading out. Y'all have a great weekend.
[02:05] <sarnold> see ya baegle
[02:06] <tomreyn> !bye | baegle
[02:34] <grinchier> hello all,   is there a usb wifi card I can buy that will work with secure boot?
[02:36] <sarnold> grinchier: there probably is something that'll just work; I'm not sure how exactly to find out which ones will Just Work and be reliable and so on .. but if you wind up needing a dkms package, you can still get secureboot to work, just with an on-computer key: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS
[02:37] <grinchier> I found these directions here but for fedora  https://www.modio.se/installing-realtek-8821ce-driver-on-system-with-secureboot-enabled.html    i must of been doing something wrong
[02:37] <grinchier> I would just disable secure boot.  but the hp laptop in question magically re-enables secure boot after a week or two.
[02:38] <grinchier> hmm the one you linked I'll give a shot.  ty.
[02:39] <grinchier> sarnold if I disable secure boot in shim-signed,   will that fix my issue of it re-enabling itself in the bios?
[02:40] <grinchier> i'm thinking not lol
[02:40] <sarnold> grinchier: oh weird -- I hadn't heard of that before
[02:40] <grinchier> ya i dunno wtf is going on.  its my sisters pc i set up ubuntu on it for my niece to do remote learning at her school
[02:40] <sarnold> grinchier: I think disabling it in the shim should work, anyway, someone went to the effort of documenting it with photos and everything :)
[02:40] <grinchier> every week or two they call and tell me the wifi disappeared lol
[02:40] <sarnold> so.. every three weeks we publish a new kernel
[02:40] <grinchier> oh you think that is what is happening?  lol
[02:41] <sarnold> if it's a dkms module, or hand-built omdule, maybe it's not being rebuilt properly?
[02:41] <sarnold> the timing does make me wonder, anyway
[02:41] <grinchier> well to fix it.  what I do is go in the bios and disable secure boot again
[02:41] <sarnold> crazy
[02:41] <grinchier> lol
[02:41] <grinchier> my sister is not pc saavy at all.  I might have to show my niece how to do it.
[02:42] <grinchier> i thought maybe someone in her house was doing it so i put a password on the bios.  didn't help LMAO
[02:42] <grinchier> someone earlier said it might be the cmos battery.  I dunno it is a crap laptop who knows.
[02:42] <grinchier> windows was unuseable on it, and their windows was super trashed so i just put ubuntu on it
[02:43] <grinchier> but ya it seems like it was about 3 weeks.  maybe when the kernel updates it re-enables secure boot?
[02:43] <grinchier> I'll try the shim thing and cross my fingers.
[02:45] <sarnold> grinchier: oh cmos battery is a decent guess
[02:45] <sarnold> grinchier: one thing that might help if you want to head down the new device route .. 'modinfo <modulename>' reports a bunch of information on a module
[02:47] <sarnold> grinchier: eg modinfo iwlwifi  dumps a ton of data on the intel wireless driver; it includes firmware names and device data.. you can guess a lot of device names from those firmware filenames, double-check they are in the linux-firmware package, and try to find something that looks promising
[02:47] <grinchier> tks
[02:48] <grinchier> so if I do the shim thing.  I don't have to disable it in bios right?
[02:50] <sarnold> grinchier: that's my expectation, yes
[02:50] <grinchier> oh man i hope so.  it seems too simple lol
[02:50] <grinchier> will it have to be redone every 3 weeks?
[02:50] <grinchier> lol
[02:58] <sarnold> grinchier: I hope not :)
[02:59] <grinchier> lol me too
[02:59] <grinchier> man for the heck of it i went on amazon.  dont' think i will find a usb wifi adapter that will work with secure boot
[03:00] <grinchier> have to give up on that dream lol
[03:01] <grinchier> well tks for your help man.  I will try the shim thing
[03:01] <grinchier> have a good weekend
[03:04] <grinchier> hmm Just read on reddit.  most people recommend panda wireless usb adapters
[03:04] <grinchier> for linux
[03:06] <sarnold> thanks grinchier, you too :) good luck
[03:41] <reaga> dang i wish i could get ubuntu working with nvidia drivers
[03:41] <reaga> wont boot after i install
[03:43] <reaga> also, ubuntu totally messes up when using dual monitors
[03:44] <reaga> stuff appears on one screen but I have to use my cursor as if its on the other screen (but invisible)
[03:44] <reaga> so if a window is in the top left of my left screen, I have to move my cursor to the top left of my right screen to click on it
[03:45] <matsaman> reaga: won't _boot_?
[03:46] <reaga> wont boot
[03:46] <reaga> as in, its just totally black and i dont have any cursor etc
[03:46] <reaga> you know what i mean
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | reaga
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> reaga: after that, try to switch nvidia drivers, ubuntu-drivers list to see whats available for your card
[03:48] <reaga> i can get into ubuntu fine
[03:48] <reaga> its when i try to install the new drivers where it dies
[03:49] <reaga> nomodeset doesn't affect nvidia drivers
[03:50] <reaga> i install the latest drivers in the ubuntu driver manager thing, it says installed complete, then i restart and its just black
[03:51] <Bashing-om> reaga: secure boot ?
[03:53] <reaga> hmm
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> reaga: share your dmesg in a pastebin please
[03:54] <Bashing-om> reaga: The Nvida driver is 3rd party - requires that secure boot be disabled while installing the driver.
[03:54] <reaga> i see...
[03:54] <reaga> i dont know if its enabled i'll need to chec
[03:54] <reaga> sounds like that could be it
[04:42] <Treskjeg> Ran into an odd issue in 20.04: I connected my laptop to a projector through HDMI, but I wanted my audio to come through speakers that were connected to my laptop, not the projector. Problem is, no matter which audio output device I select in the system settings, the audio still goes through HDMI. What gives?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Treskjeg: got an nvidia graphics card?
[04:48] <Treskjeg> AMD graphics card actually.
[05:16] <ash_worksi> its nice to have a bit of prescription when you're new to things
[05:16] <ash_worksi> does anyone have one for a ctag generator for vim?
[05:17] <ash_worksi> I'm reading a post from 2018 that recommended universal-ctags/ctags but thats 2018 and the person uses neovim
[06:21] <buzel> ash_worksi: I use ctags. `ctags -R .` for vim. I add -e for Emacs
[06:21] <buzel> exuberant-ctags
[06:24] <ash_worksi> ah
[06:25] <ash_worksi> exuberant-ctags
[06:25] <ash_worksi> buzel: do you have any kind of opinion on that vers universal-ctags?
[06:25] <ash_worksi> or is it like 6-of-1?
[06:25] <ash_worksi> (ie, you don't care)
[06:29] <buzel> I just know it works for my C++ code, that's about it
[06:29] <buzel> I've had it work with other languages too, including javascript
[08:08] <hwpplayer1> hi people!
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[08:16] <hwpplayer1> lotuspsychje: Good Morning here it is 11:16
[08:16] <hwpplayer1> 11 AM
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> hey
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> how can we help you today hwpplayer1
[08:16] <hwpplayer1> I'll give you feedback today
[08:16] <hwpplayer1> Maybe i'll install nvidia drivers
[08:17] <hwpplayer1> I'm crypting my backup disk
[08:19] <hwpplayer1> My question is when i mount to /usr it fails and dromps to initramfs. I never thought of that file system theory
[08:19] <hwpplayer1> I just wanted to add a new disk to root especially usr
[08:22] <hwpplayer1> I guess it overwrites that is why it fails
[08:22] <hwpplayer1> Then i'll follow System76 for clients, like one base OS SSD and others SSD or HDD mounted to home for files
[08:22] <hwpplayer1> Solution :)
[08:23] <hwpplayer1> And remote development on workstations in my house or datacenter
[09:46] <nowhereFast> just flashed the focal server image for rpi, it contains two paritions, system-boot and writable, for cloud-init config, I see a user-data in system-boot and a /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg in writable, which is the canoncal to modify?
[11:37] <yakiza38> Hello people I am tyring to install the drivers for TP-Link wireles adaptor, I have followed the instructions and all the dependencies that it required, when I do  sudo make  i get the following error https://pastebin.pl/view/d71bc58a
[11:38] <doh> is it somehow possible to create an interface where all traffic on it would be actually managed through a socks proxy?
[11:38] <doh> similar to how a vpn would work, just with a socks proxy
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> Treskjeg: did you try pavucontrol yet?
[12:30] <hwpplayer1> lotuspsychje: What do you think about mounting extra disks within home directory ?
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> hwpplayer1: try to ask your issue into the channel, when volunteers know they will pick up your issue
[12:32] <hwpplayer1> i did already, but had a connection failure, Thanks a lot
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> hwpplayer1: you can repeat if you like
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:35] <hwpplayer1> lotuspsychje: yes i'll
[12:35] <hwpplayer1> My question is when i mount to /usr it fails and dromps to
[12:35] <hwpplayer1> 	     initramfs. I never thought of that file system theory
[12:36] <oerheks> don't mount it on /usr, use /mnt/  when the drive is in Fstab, else automount in /media/
[12:37] <hwpplayer1> understood, all say mount to media so i'll mount it to media
[12:37] <hwpplayer1> i did that once
[12:38] <oerheks> 'all say'.. really?
[12:38] <hwpplayer1> all people say that who wrote articles tutorials on the web
[12:38] <hwpplayer1> just hacking or hard coding :)
[12:38] <hwpplayer1> learning from mistakes
[12:38] <oerheks> not interested, but go ahead..
[12:39] <hwpplayer1> Thanks oerheks
[12:48] <cjoke> I run ubuntu focal and have this zam-plugins 3.9~repack3-1build1 installed, 3.9 is from 2017, and there is a version 3.13 available. This means that i dont have any "added" features from 3.9 =< * but you guys fix bugs? I dont understand. please enlighten me.
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> !info zam-plugins
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> cjoke: ok, you have to right package version for your ubuntu release
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> cjoke: your options are !backports or another higher ubuntu release
[12:51] <cjoke> lotuspsychje:  I understand that, but it is 3 years since that version came around. focal is not reached 1 year, any ideas of why ? it is buggy ?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !latest | cjoke
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> cjoke: did you experience a bug in 3.9?
[12:51] <cjoke> lotuspsychje: I see, thanks for response :)
[12:51] <oerheks> https://github.com/zamaudio/zam-plugins
[12:52] <oerheks> pretty old, i guess, but stable?
[12:52] <cjoke> lotuspsychje: no, havent tried it yet, im on weekly gitsearch , no big deal.
[12:52] <cjoke> oerheks: Im gonna test it before/if I install from git.
[12:53] <cjoke> I was just curious , thats why I asked :) <3
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> cjoke: seems like ubuntu 20.10 has also 3.9 still, so no use for another release neither
[13:38] <sumagna> anybody uses budgie desktop environment with default ubuntu (not ubuntu budgie)?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: adviced to ask your real question into the channel, so volunteers can think along with you
[13:40] <sumagna> i was just asking
[13:40] <sumagna> i am thinking about installing budgie DE
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: you would like to share experiences/discuss with someone about budgie?
[13:42] <sumagna> i want to ask about budgie's installation and if there are gonna be any problems after insalling it
[13:43] <sumagna> like any side effects
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: we cant really generalize problems/bugs on the ubuntu !flavours, issues can get influenced by several things like hardware, bios settings, bugs etc
[13:45] <sumagna> ok
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: feel free to find likeminded users on budgie in #ubuntu-discuss or the #ubuntu-budgie channel
[13:46] <sumagna> i was reading about its installation and found that there are going to be problems like icons
[13:46] <sumagna> sorry for the delay of this message. my net stopped working for a few seconds
[13:50] <bewees> hi, how do I start gparted from CLI?
[13:54] <sumagna> you have to install it, i think, at first
[13:55] <sumagna> but if you want to install it for resizing root or something like that, then you would need a live usb
[13:58] <bewees> sumagna: none of that answers my questions
[13:58] <sumagna> you have to install it, i think, at first
[13:58] <sumagna> then call gparted
[13:58] <sumagna> thats all
[13:59] <bewees> no that doesn't work from CLI
[13:59] <bewees> i will now simply install x2go and open gparted from there. polkit auth fails even though I installed it
[14:17] <pavlos> bewees: sudo gparted
[14:17] <EriC^^> *sudo -H gparted
[14:37] <strive> EriC^^: Interesting.
[14:37] <EriC^^> :)
[14:38] <SkyPilot> test
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> SkyPilot: we see you, it works
[14:39] <strive> Rutters, check.
[16:55] <bewees> Is there a tool to automatically partition my drive with LUKS in Ubuntu?
[16:57] <jayjo> the 'disks' utility will do it, if you mean a GUI. not sure about "automatically"
[16:58] <bewees> How do I start the disks utility from a running Ubuntu system?
[16:59] <jayjo> are you on a desktop? You can use your "super" key to get the unity dash, and then just search "disks"
[17:00] <ThothCastel> anybody could please help me in joining #linux?
[17:00] <ThothCastel> it says I am banned
[17:00] <ThothCastel> it has been a long time I don't access that channel
[17:00] <Maik> jayjo: unity dash? from 17.10 and onward Ubuntu uses gnome
[17:00] <Maik> ThothCastel: wrong channel to ask
[17:00] <ThothCastel> and I cannot remember ever being banned from it
[17:00] <bewees> jayjo: nope not on Ubuntu desktop
[17:01] <bewees> jayjo: I got xcfe4 installed, but it's not finding "disks"
[17:01] <Maik> sudo apt install gnome-disks
[17:01] <bewees> i'm installing ubiquity right now, I guess it's in that package
[17:02] <ThothCastel> Maik thanks - i meant to ask in #freenode
[17:02] <ThothCastel> I am two unused machines at home with good spec which I would like to purpose for something useful as servers
[17:02] <ThothCastel> on my  home network
[17:02] <ThothCastel> looking for ideas
[17:02] <Maik> bewees: my bad, make that gnome-disk-utility
[17:03] <ThothCastel> thought of a terminal server or somthing like that
[17:03] <ThothCastel> I already have a freenas on a different machine
[17:04] <Maik> ThothCastel: offtopic chat can be done in #ubuntu-offtopic if you don't have a ubuntu support question
[17:09] <bewees> Maik: is that the tool jayjo meant?
[17:09] <bewees> thought there's a tool like on ubuntu live usb where EFI partition is created automatically
[17:10] <bewees> but I will create efi now manually, should I use vfat or ext2?
[17:17] <Maik> bewees: yep it is
[17:17] <tomreyn> bewees: what's your overall goal there? you're not editing partitions on the sotrage you booted from, are you?
[17:18] <tomreyn> * storage media
[17:18] <bewees> tomreyn: moving to a new SSD my rootfs that is
[17:18] <bewees> ssd seems to die soon
[17:19] <tomreyn> whether you can predict this, or are predicting this correctly, could be a separate topic of discussion, but regarding the overall plan: the easiest approach can be to just do a fresh install to the new storage, then mount the file systems of the old storage and copy what you still need.
[17:20] <tomreyn> you'd need to resintall (and reconfigure) your software, though.
[17:22] <tomreyn> if, however, you really prefer to re-use the existing installation, your approach of using a partitioning tool to create partitions (of the same or larger size than existing ones) first of all, would seem correct.
[17:23] <arooni> so i have an existing installation of ubuntu 20.04;  is there anyway to make it so my /home partition is encrypted?
[17:24] <arooni> https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/04/how-to-encrypt-home-folder-in-ubuntu.html ? '
[17:24] <tomreyn> the next step would then be to either create file systems on the target and rsync the data from old to new ssd, or to copy a full image for each partition you'll keep.
[17:24] <tomreyn> bewees: ^
[17:25] <bewees>  tomreyn yeah, just wasn't sure if EFI should be vfat, fat32 or ext2
[17:25] <bewees> I went for fat32, but I noted somewhere down that ubuntus wants ext2
[17:26] <tomreyn> arooni: i recommend not to use ecryptfs these days.
[17:29] <tomreyn> bewees: the efi system partition needs to be a FAT file system, i think all of 8, 16, and 32 are allowed by the standard (but, sadly, some implementations differ from the specification). FAT32 is probably a safe bet
[17:30] <bewees> tomreyn: do you know if ubuntu by default install the rootfs on ext4 with LVM or without?
[17:31] <bewees> going to use lvm
[17:31] <bewees> nvm :-)
[17:31] <tomreyn> bewees: ubuntu 20.04 desktop installs without LVM unless you sopecifically choose to use LVM or select FDE, i think.
[17:35] <jayjo> I'm trying to use avrdude on my ubuntu desktop, which requires a port option (-P) that I can't get to work correctly... I can't connect via avrdude to a usb serial device. First, I'm trying to use a udev rule to assign a nicer name. Is that symlink name under /dev in the udev rule my "port" name? I think port may be a DOS thing here
[17:41] <jayjo> In setting that udev rule, should I just plug the device in and see what character file appears in the /dev directory? The command 'udevadm info --name=/dev/ttyS1 --attribute-walk' is helpful to set the rule, but how about getting the /dev/ttyS1 initially
[17:51] <converge> what do you use for screen saver?]
[17:55] <oerheks> power-button
[17:59] <technot> can anyone give me some quick pointers on whats the best way to move an ubuntu uefi system disk to a new disk? google has 1001 answers.. i thought i knew: while running the "old" ubuntu, i repartitioned the new drive, swapped the uuids in fstab, and ran grub-install on the new drive, rebooted to a usb live stick, and then cp -avf contends of old efi partition to new efi partition and same with old root to
[17:59] <technot> new root. but when i look over some random files in /etc/grub.d i see the files are littered with uuids.. do they need to be changed manually as well? anything else im forgetting? ubuntu 20.10 btw
[18:01] <oerheks> yes, on could clone the partitions, and boot with live iso and update the new UUID in fstab
[18:02] <oerheks> the command 'blkid' gives the new valid UUIDs, easy to copy to fstab, then run update-grub and voila
[18:05] <technot> well, i allready updated the uuids in fstab manually, was only two:) and the contents of my two partitions are copied, might as well be clones, and grub installed to the new disk after
[18:05] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | technot
[18:05] <technot> so i guess should be good to try it then, thanks :)
[18:05] <technot> ubottu: thanks, good to know :)
[18:05] <technot> lol
[18:06] <oerheks> have fun!
[18:22] <intx> did ubuntu change logging mechanism in one of the recent releases? /var/log/syslog is 0 bytes
[18:47] <deadrom> hi all
[18:48] <deadrom> say, I got a Celeron J1900 that's suppose dto go Media Center, currently transferring a lot large files from the old server to its only disk, a large single disk well capable of transferring 200MB/s, the server easily cranking out 300MB/s, GBE, only getting 50-52MB/s on NFS
[18:50] <deadrom> no disk encryption, NFSv4... I see all 4 cores are pretty busy. would simple disk/ethernet transfers go so heavy on that little CPU?
[18:52] <oerheks> maybe, or the block size is not optimum , some help http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s05.html
[18:52] <oerheks> i hope this is all wired? not wireless?
[19:15] <deadrom> oerheks: all nice cat5e
[20:06] <hydrian> Ello all
[20:06] <hydrian> I recently upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04.
[20:07] <duckgoose> you forgot about 17
[20:07] <hydrian> Now some of LVs are not starting but others are at boot. All of the LV I'm mentioning are apart of the same VG.
[20:08] <hydrian> Some of the LVs are getting timeouts on boot. Since one of them is for the /var partition, it make the host go in to rescue mode.
[20:09] <hydrian> Is there a way to increase the timeout on the lv detection at boot?
[20:11] <hydrian> Once I can login with rescue mode the LVs start up fine
[20:12] <hydrian> The problem LVs are marked as inactive.
[20:48] <parsnip> hmm, i'm using ubuntu 20.04 and `sudo apt-cache search taskd` comes up empty
[20:48] <parsnip> even though it appears here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/taskd.1.html
[20:50] <parsnip> hmm, i'll try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[20:52] <parsnip> hmm, i only see it in xenial and bionic: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=taskd&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[20:56] <jayjo> I've set a udev rule to create a symlink to /dev/chameleon with this rule: `ATTRS{product}=="Chameleon-Mini", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="16d0", ATTRS{idProduct}=="04b2", GROUP="dialout", MODE="0775", SYMLINK+="chameleon"` but my symlink, which does show up, has root:root ownership. I can only access the device on screen /dev/ttyACM0, screen /dev/chameleon (or the /dev/bus/usb/003/023 which is the
[20:56] <jayjo> symlink) can't be connected to
[21:04] <jayjo> even if I correct the persmission, screen can only seem to communicate with the /dev/ttyACM0 device, the /dev/bus/usb/002/026 is not readable
[21:05] <hydrian> jayjo: is the user you are using apart of the dialout group
[21:05] <hydrian> and the plugdev group
[21:05] <jayjo> yes, a member of both
[21:06] <hydrian> Have you relogged/rebooted since adding those groups to the user you are testing with?
[21:07] <parsnip> i decided to install a tarball, "solved"
[21:11] <TJ-> jayjo: you're only setting GROUP on a symlink - that doesn't affect the target. Your rule should be creating a full character device node with the correct major and minor
[21:19] <jayjo> I think I may be identifying the device incorrectly, although that is the udev rule that the manufacturer recommended (https://cdn.statically.io/gh/emsec/ChameleonMini/master/Drivers/98-ChameleonMini.rules). I'm just naive about it, could my machine require a different rule to match the same piece of hardware? Maybe if I connect through the front of my tower vs the back?
[21:19] <jayjo> Because I did notice the /dev/ttyACM0 device is a tty subsystem and the other is a usb subsystem. I can only connect via screen (serially) to the tty subsystem
[21:21] <TJ-> jayjo: precisely - compare the MAJOR MINORs of the /dev/ttyACM0 and /dev/bus/usb/...
[21:21] <jayjo> https://bpa.st/5WGA I do see that the MAJOR MINOR is different
[21:22] <TJ-> jayjo: use 'udevadm monitor' or 'udevadm info' to see what udev does to create the /dev/ttyACM0 when the device is plugged in.
[21:27] <jayjo> I see the creation of the /dev/ttyACM0 here: https://bpa.st/D56Q with udevadm monitor ... is there a way to see what rule actually triggers?
[21:29] <jayjo> I had referenced this page: https://wiki.debian.org/udev but doens't mention about major/minor
[21:32] <TJ-> jayjo: see "man systemd-udevd" and "man udev.conf" for ways to enable udev debugging - log can be viewed with "journalctl -u systemd-udevd"
[21:52] <simonquigley> Hey #ubuntu! I have a fun one...
[21:52] <simonquigley> I have this output when trying to simply wget a file from cdimage.u.c: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/627YMF925t/
[21:53] <simonquigley> The interesting thing to note is it tries a bunch of IPv6 addresses first, and then tries IPv4 addresses
[21:53] <jeremy31> simonquigley: I would set IPv6 options in Network Manager to disable/ignore
[21:54] <simonquigley> Okay, is there a way to do that from the CLI?
[21:54]  * simonquigley googles in the meantime
[21:54] <jeremy31> simonquigley:  I have never done it that way
[21:56] <simonquigley> Okay, I figured it out, I just wanted to share for future reference...
[21:56] <simonquigley> $ nmcli connection modify SSID ipv6.method "disabled"
[21:56] <simonquigley> Then disconnecting and reconnecting.
[21:56] <simonquigley> That works.
[21:56] <simonquigley> For reference: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html/configuring_and_managing_networking/disabling-ipv6-on-a-system-that-uses-networkmanager_configuring-and-managing-networking
[21:56] <simonquigley> Thanks jeremy31!
[22:03] <leftyfb> jeremy31: future reference, they could have just used wget -4
[22:07] <BalooRJ> Hello, I'm having an issue with libdvdcss if anyone can help me with that
[22:22] <deadrom> BalooRJ: not unless you tell us what the problem is
[22:46] <BalooRJ> deadrom: Thanks kindly, I've installed libdvd-pkg and did sudo dpkg reconfigure on libdvd-pkg
[22:50] <deadrom> all, any known issue with mc freezing on large copyjobs?
[22:51] <deadrom> 20.04, third attempt to copy large amount of large files over ethernet from NFSv4 server which other clients work fine with, but this new 20.04 box now third time mc stalled. nothing in dmesg / syslog
[22:53] <tomreyn> deadrom: new hardware, you say? did you do hardware tests before putting it to use?
[22:53] <tomreyn> this sounds like a memtest could be needed
[22:53] <deadrom> tomreyn: no... if POST goes through I assume the system to be functional. what sort of test do you have in mind?
[22:54] <tomreyn> see above. ;-)
[22:54] <deadrom> the RAM has been checked externally before installing
[22:54] <tomreyn> externally? how do you do this?
[22:54] <deadrom> or lets say, it's from a stash where only tested modules go.
[22:55] <deadrom> test machine
[22:55] <deadrom> I got a lot of RAM
[22:55] <tomreyn> i see. you should always run such tests on the target system, though
[22:55] <deadrom> fair point
[22:56] <deadrom> bit strange though that everything else is clockwork but only mc borks don't you think?
[22:56] <tomreyn> not if it's got to do with ram, no. you'd get all kinds of unexplicable situations
[22:57] <tomreyn> it could also be networking or storage related, though, but then i'd hope to see error messages
[22:58] <tomreyn> you don't have ecc ram by chance, or a system (hardware) event log (available through some hardware backdoor, AKA out-of-band-management solution)?
[23:02] <dlam> im trying to upgrade 18.04 -> 20.04 but it failed with a "Could not calculate the upgrade" error and this in /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log:  The package 'postgresql-10-postgis-2.4' is marked for removal but it's in the removal blacklist
[23:02] <dlam> any ideas?
[23:03] <dlam> ...i guess i could just manually `apt-get remove postgresql-10-postgis-2.4` or something
[23:03] <tomreyn> dlam: yes, you could give this a try. chances are there are other problems, though.
[23:04] <deadrom> tomreyn: low power system, miniITX, J1900 cpu with DDR3-SO-DIMM, no ECC here :)
[23:04] <tomreyn> you probably had unsupported packages or packages versions (or both) installed
[23:04] <tomreyn> dlam: ^
[23:05] <tomreyn> deadrom: i guess not then ;)
[23:06] <deadrom> tomreyn: speaking of which, has the memtest on the live iso gone stupid? when I did test a suspicious system the other day memtest86+ would check them OK while memtest86.com found errors after seconds
[23:07] <tomreyn> the memtest86+, as available in ubuntu, does not support uefi booting, does not support all cpu families
[23:12] <dlam> kkk
[23:13] <tomreyn> dlam: look for "Foreign:" in your logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[23:14] <tomreyn> better yet, install and run apt-forktracer
[23:16] <dlam> kkk   oreign: google-chrome-stable slack-desktop
[23:18] <tomreyn> i would advise against using this abbreviation.
[23:20] <deadrom> tomreyn: think it might be misinterpreted as a reference to the communist party of cyprus kappa kappa kappa? :)
[23:21] <deadrom> or the production code of the 1972 Doctor Who series "Day of the Daleks"?
[23:21] <tomreyn> maybe this, and certainly other things, too. abbreviations tend to be ambiguous, and in tech support, it helps to be precise.
[23:22] <dlam> @tomreyn: mmk i ran `apt-forktracer` and got 250 lines of output and programs :D
[23:23] <dlam> maybe too many to go in and check 1-by-1
[23:23] <tomreyn> dlam: looks like you forgot to prepare your system for a release upgrade.
[23:24] <dlam> ohh nope never even heard about that xD
[23:24] <tomreyn> that third party repos aren't supported?
[23:24] <dlam> ahh i understand
[23:33] <deadrom> tomreyn: RAM is ok
[23:34] <deadrom> I first suspected that fat 5 platter 3.5" in combo with a nv1030 and the board on a 120W pico PSU might be a but much asked of that little thing, but even when mc stalled I could access the disk fine
[23:34] <tomreyn> deadrom: do you feel like sharing dmesg?
[23:35] <deadrom> so it could be: rotten switch, cable, that RTL8111 on the mini board being crap, NFS mc indeed or a thousand other things.
[23:35] <deadrom> tomreyn: can do as soon as the machine is up again
[23:35] <deadrom> hang on
[23:36] <tomreyn> or power supply, yes
[23:38] <deadrom> tomreyn: yeeeh but: power supply dipping so hard mc crashes, and only mc and nothing else? I doubt it. what's a good stress test for small platforms?
[23:38] <deadrom> on heavy ones I use Unigene benchmarks
[23:41] <tomreyn> stress-ng or cpuburn for the cpu, memtest86+ from memtest86.com for ram, bonnie++ and smartctl for storage
[23:42] <deadrom> tomreyn: dmesg after mc stalled or just any of the last? (I'll finish the memtest past, couple mins)
[23:43] <oerheks> mc is minecraft or midnight comander?
[23:43] <tomreyn> deadrom: i'm mostly interested in what's logged by journalctl during boot (maybe not *just* dmesg, but it's up to you)
[23:43] <tomreyn> * by systemd-journald