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 Hi.. I am interested in porting Ubuntu touch to my msm 8937 device. Since the chipset already supports Ubuntu touch it will be helpful if someone can direct me to some UB touch development guide..
 @Ozu [Hi.. I am interested in porting Ubuntu touch to my msm 8937 device. Since the ch …], [[[http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-step](http://docs.ubports.c](http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/halium_9/Halium_9_GSI_porting.html)[[http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-step](http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/po
[04:07] <ubptgbot> rting/Intro.html)[http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html](http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html) … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/halium_9/Halium_9_GSI_porting.html … When I asked a similar question I was given these three links
 Were you successful in the build ?
 @Ozu [Were you successful in the build ?], I haven’t started yet. I’m doing something else right now.
 @ramrabbit [I haven’t started yet. I’m doing something else right now.], What device you are working on
 @Ozu [What device you are working on], When I do start I’d like to work on my pixel
 The original pixel was really nice. Not too big. Great DAC.
 Gr8.. That phone needs it
 Yeah. I’ve also been meaning to load UT onto my nexus 5
 Just gotta get it unlocked
 You haven't unlocked it yet !
 Well, that’s not hard. I have the tools on my desktop. I haven’t used the nexus 5 in 4-5 years
 The battery is pretty screwed so there isn’t a lot of reason to do it other than just checking UT out
 Nexus 5 s are selling at 20 bucks in my neighborhood.. Lol
 Supposedly they’re among the best phones to use with UT
 Yeah .. Normiea don't know the value..lol
 [Edit] Yeah .. Normies  … don't know the value..lol
 Haha. True. Great phones. The only thing that always got on my nerves about the nexus 5 is the terrible terrible DAC
 Yeah.. I have heard about it
 hello
 is there a guide for installing ubuntu touch in redmi note 7s
 @just_carlod [and halium-boot for lavendar (redmi note 7)], can u send me a link to download it?
 https://youtu.be/eGjplOtzSFI … this toturial is not working  … my phone is not loding the ubuntu touch  … its just stuck at "Redmi logo"
 @FabricioSC [https://youtu.be/eGjplOtzSFI], its not working bro
 @TotalSonic [nice video showing the results of flashing Halium 9 / UBports GSI  to a Redmi No …], did it work for u?
 @just_carlod [and halium-boot for lavendar (redmi note 7)], How to install this ? Do I need Ubuntu in my pc to flash this ? I tried GSI but if there is no OTA updates it ain't that useful
 @mrbeandev [https://youtu.be/eGjplOtzSFI … this toturial is not working  … my phone is not lodin …], In my point of point of view Ubuntu Touch is not an alternative for Android, but rather a movement to open the duopoly that exists currently in the mobile market.
 @mrbeandev [did it work for u?], I haven't tried it, I can't find Boot.img for Wayne
 @mrbeandev [https://youtu.be/eGjplOtzSFI … this toturial is not working  … my phone is not lodin …], [Edit] In my point of point of view Ubuntu Touch is not an alternative for Android, but rather an OS to open the duopoly that exists currently in the mobile market.
 Unfortunately no real competitors have existed in a very long time to Android and iOS.
 Now in 2020 we're seeing more coming to light. Sailfish OS, Harmony OS, Ubuntu Touch, postmarketOS, Nemo Mobile, Maemo Leste...
 The list goes on!
 And if we keep creating a community maybe phone manufacturers and carriers will take attention and start mainstreaming the mobile independence.
 [Edit] And if we keep expanding a community maybe phone manufacturers and carriers will take attention and start mainstreaming the mobile independence.
 [Edit] And if we keep expanding a community maybe phone manufacturers and carriers will see this and start mainstreaming the mobile independence.
 Don't get me wrong, it's an ambicious dream, but progress is being made.
 And projects like these help this new tech revolution expand. So thank you UBports community for making something awesome.
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 @mrbeandev [did it work for u?], That is not my device or video - I was just reposting.
 @mrbeandev [did it work for u?], [Edit] That is not my device or video - I was just reposting. I use UT on a Meizu Pro 5 and OnePlus One.
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 Hello
 @mintphin [And if we keep expanding a community maybe phone manufacturers and carriers will …], I just hope every Android device becomes an Android One device at some point. Including the `fastboot oem unlock` part.
 Hello, there's a specific group for GSI or i can ask there my question
 [Edit] Hello, there's a specific group for UbPorts GSI or i can ask there my question?
 @virginioscotti [Hello, there's a specific group for UbPorts GSI or i can ask there my question?], there's also https://t.me/UBports_Lomiri
 @mintphin [Unfortunately no real competitors have existed in a very long time to Android an …], so much love :)  the om;y thing we need lol
 @virginioscotti [Hello, there's a specific group for UbPorts GSI or i can ask there my question?], We have a porting group
 @Maik_aD [there's also https://t.me/UBports_Lomiri], No thats a wrong one
 @Flohack [We have a porting group], Ok can you link me pls
 @Flohack [No thats a wrong one], then post the link....
 @virginioscotti [Ok can you link me pls], Its called @ubports_porting I think
 @mintphin [Unfortunately no real competitors have existed in a very long time to Android an …], [Edit] so much love :)  the only thing we need lol
 Ok thank you
 thanks
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[12:43] <ubptgbot> <. .> Hi guys, is it possible install ubuntu touch on nokia device??
 I guess you need to port it
 . if you looked here you'd have known: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
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 (Photo, 473x610) https://irc.ubports.com/FkXq510l.png
 Imagine how funny it would be if someone were to make a Hackinphone. Basically making iOS run on other devices.
 I mean I know such concept breaks Apple's EULAs but still a cool concept.
 [Edit] I mean I know such concept breaks Apple's EULAs but still a cool idea.
 ios doesn't run on linux xd so I'll be like creating new operating system xd
 [Edit] ios doesn't run on linux xd so It'll be like creating new operating system xd
 or maybe i'm wrong and it's possible
 Not really. It would take developing the missing drivers and implementing them into Darwin ARM (which someone basically remade)
 But we're going too out of topic.
 I'm not sure that reimplementing a closed-source mobile OS that Ubuntu Touch is a replacement for will be a very popular idea in the Ubuntu Touch room, yeah. :)
 😆
 @mintphin [Imagine how funny it would be if someone were to make a Hackinphone. Basically m …], Why would I want iOS if I can have Linux on my phone?
 the answer is usually 'because i can'
 @PiecerEdd [the answer is usually 'because i can'], Yup, basically summarizes it.
 i dont know if iOS has any 'killer apps' that android doesnt (in the way that OSX does, hence why people do hackintosh)
[17:03] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> Is there a way to fix black camera without rebooting?
 @Boris Mihailov [Is there a way to fix black camera without rebooting?], Sometimes it's enough to swipe and activate the app switcher. Sometimes only reboot works at my device. (oneplusone)
[17:42] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> @stkalb [Sometimes it's enough to swipe and activate the app switcher. Sometimes only reb …], Weird part is that front camera works :/
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[17:48] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> where's the "wireless displays" setting? i don't see in the settings in v10 GSI
[18:42] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> About the black camera, it might be because of the flash toggle
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <. .> When and Why we should or need to use Ubuntu touch? … Why you don't use aosp ???
 Privacy
 @. . [When and Why we should or need to use Ubuntu touch? … Why you don't use aosp ???], When/because you're a Linux nerd. … And maybe when you want a truly open source OS as opposed to a Google-controlled source-available thing.
[18:51] <ubptgbot> <. .> @mimecar [Privacy], Can you explain more ?
 Google's business model is to get your data and sell it. The applications show you advertisements with this data.
 Ubuntu Touch does not spy on you and its applications do not show advertising.
[18:53] <ubptgbot> <. .> @mimecar [Google's business model is to get your data and sell it. The applications show y …], Is it posable to customize aosp for this situation?
 You will receive Ubuntu Touch updates whenever possible, not depending on what a manufacturer wants.
 @. . [Is it posable to customize aosp for this situation?], I do not think so.
[18:54] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> there is lineage and graphene tho
 @. . [Is it posable to customize aosp for this situation?], Lineage OS exists
 You will continue to use applications that depend on advertising.
 @mimecar [You will continue to use applications that depend on advertising.], You can get some of them from F-Droid and refuse to install proprietary ones.
 Yes, but you run out of many applications that are used daily.
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <. .> @mimecar [You will continue to use applications that depend on advertising.], Is it posable to run apk apps on ubuntu touch???
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> why would you want to do that
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <. .> @Ender [Lineage OS exists], Thanks bro...
 @. . [Is it posable to run apk apps on ubuntu touch???], In a very limited and experimental way.
[18:57] <ubptgbot> <. .> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/MADtRfPr.webp
[18:57] <ubptgbot> <. .> @mimecar [In a very limited and experimental way.], 👌
 @mimecar [Yes, but you run out of many applications that are used daily.], Depends on your preferences and values. I personally do not trust any proprietary code. Most of it is crap anyway. The only proprietary program I need is Skype because the company I work at uses that. And I run it on a dedicated machine behind strict firewall.
[19:00] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> what's the difference between UT and Sailfish OS? Sailfish has a closed source UI (but honestly it looks great.) The new version of sailfish just came out https://blog.jolla.com/sailfish-os-pallas-yllastunturi-is-now-available/ and it has better device support (fingerprint, gps, etc)  than ubports for my xperia 10. however, the apps aren'
[19:00] <ubptgbot> t as great.
[19:00] <ubptgbot> <. .> @Heng Ye [there is lineage and graphene tho], We need to create or chose some OS for custom device with support apk installation and run...
 @. . [We need to create or chose some OS for custom device with support apk installati …], Tha is not an easy task
 @. . [We need to create or chose some OS for custom device with support apk installati …], [Edit] That is not an easy task
 If you want to use Android apps, you use Android (everything will work).
[19:01] <ubptgbot> <. .> @mimecar [That is not an easy task], What's your advice ?
 @mimecar [If you want to use Android apps, you use Android (everything will work).], Idk about that, if you don't have gapps some won't even on android
 @mimecar [If you want to use Android apps, you use Android (everything will work).], Or a virtual machine with Android as guest OS ;)
 Ubuntu Touch can run some Android apps with Anbox, but you have not hardware access
 @Ender [Or a virtual machine with Android as guest OS ;)], On a PC, not on a mobile
 Another advantage of Ubuntu Touch is that when one version is released, it reaches all supported devices.
 You do not depend on a specific adaptation as is the case with Android.
 Google releases a version and hopefully it reaches "normal" phones within a year.
 @mimecar [On a PC, not on a mobile], Never understood the concept of smartphone honestly. Unless your employer wants you to be online every single minute that is...
 @Heng Ye [what's the difference between UT and Sailfish OS? Sailfish has a closed source U …], you pretty much just listed the differences hehe, but I have to disagree about the apps - sailfish OS apps are great for the most part
[19:06] <ubptgbot> <. .> And how abut android one is it posable to use for custom device?
 The smartphone can be used personally, it is not necessarily related to work.
 Android One maintains a separate partition with drivers and other basic things (GSI).
 Without the drivers from the phone manufacturer, you can't do anything.
[19:10] <ubptgbot> <. .> @mimecar [Without the drivers from the phone manufacturer, you can't do anything.], Thanks for useful information.
[19:45] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @PiecerEdd there are more garbage sailfish apps but the good ones seem shared (pure maps, quickddit ). Only big thing sailfish is missing is tux racer.
[19:47] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> Also the ubports feels more "authentic linux" if u know what I mean...look n feels like desktop ubuntu
 which is strange as sailfish is more of a classical linux distro setup... its got system, RPM's, and a read-write rootfs 😆
 errm, systemd*
 ubports is more open saucy though (as you said sailfish has a proprietary UI, or at least components of it) and the sailfish browser is STILL dreadful even after this month's update
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @PiecerEdd saiflish is so beautiful tho
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> there is the glacier ux but it's nowhere as good
 yeah glacier isnt great, quite unstable too
[20:36] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> distrohopping on mobile is real now
 @Heng Ye [where's the "wireless displays" setting? i don't see in the settings in v10 GSI], there's an android property that needs to be set for it to appear in settings, though i don't recall the exact property
[21:14] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @dohbee [there's an android property that needs to be set for it to appear in settings, t …], An android property?
 @Heng Ye [An android property?], yes, that's checked via `getprop` you can probably set it manually with `setprop` or such
[21:19] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @dohbee [yes, that's checked via getprop you can probably set it manually with setprop or …], I don't see one...grep cast give nothing
 @Heng Ye [I don't see one...grep cast give nothing], yes, it doesn't exist and therefore is not set
 it must be set to work. i don't recall what the name of the property is
 you can check in system-settings source for getprop calls i guess
[22:15] <DarwinElf> i'm thinking of Ubuntu Touch (UT) as a substitute for Android-x86 on a PC that may not work well on... is UT still developed?
 UT is still developed, yes, but mainly for ARM devices. I'm not sure what you mean in your first sentence.
[23:28] <DarwinElf> that's fine.  If I use UT instead of Android-x86, is there a program similar to Google Maps?
[23:28] <DarwinElf> or preferably just a port of it (not meaning in web browser) also with voice navigation in the accent one chooses?
 There are other maps apps. There is no build of UT to run on x86 android hal devices
[23:31] <DarwinElf> hal?
[23:31] <DarwinElf> never mind.  I don't have such a device
 You mean a generic tablet that can run on mainline?