callmepkgood morning00:47
dufluMorning callmepk 01:24
callmepkmorning duflu 01:30
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jibelGood morning05:32
seb128goood morning desktopers05:35
dufluMorning jibel and seb128 05:37
seb128hey duflu , how are you? had a good weekend?05:37
dufluseb128, I'm well. Just housework and family somehow filled the weekend. You?05:37
jibelHi duflu seb128 05:39
seb128duflu, weather was nice, we went for some walks and otherwise just relaxed05:48
seb128jibel, salut05:48
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:32
oSoMoNhey luna_ 06:41
didrocksgood morning07:06
marcustomlinsonmorning callmepk duflu jibel seb128 oSoMoN didrocks and other desktoppers07:08
didrocksgood morning marcustomlinson & all07:09
callmepkhey marcustomlinson and morning/afternoon jibel seb128 oSoMoN didrocks 07:19
didrockshey callmepk 07:19
duflumorning oSoMoN, luna_, didrocks, marcustomlinson 07:23
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, good morning marcustomlinson, good afternoon callmepk & duflu07:24
didrockshey duflu, salut oSoMoN 07:24
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jibelSalut marcustomlinson callmepk and all07:59
oSoMoNsalut jibel 08:24
jibelHello oSoMoN 08:26
didrocks999hey Laney 08:42
Laneysup didrocks999 08:44
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didrockslet’s loose those 9!08:44
seb128hey Laney and the other that joined while I was away for morning errands!08:47
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didrockswb seb128 08:48
seb128lut didrocks comment ça va ?08:48
didrocksça va bien, continué les travaux ce week-end, et toi ? :)08:51
seb128ça va! on a réussi à faire quelques ballades entre les averses, sinon rien de spécial08:56
dufluHi Laney08:57
marcustomlinsonhey Laney09:01
Laneyhey seb128 duflu and marcustomlinson!09:06
seb128tkamppeter, hey, do you understand what's the issue with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/1881401 exactly? seems quite some users are saying hplip doesn't work correctly in the LTS?09:12
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1881401 in HPLIP "HPLIP, hp-doctor, hp-check should support Ubuntu 20.04 LTS with its package base" [Undecided,In progress]09:12
tkamppeterseb128, this is a big problem of HPLIP development policy. They only develop based on released Linux distros, not working with distros under development in order to make their included packages working well.09:15
tkamppeterSo they provide Uuntu 20.04 support only after 20.04 release, probably therefore the problems are gone if one installs our 20.0 packages on 20.04.09:16
tkamppeterSolutions are either that HP changes their development policy or that they switch to sandboxed packaging.09:17
tkamppeterCode quality of HPLIP is also generally not very high.09:18
tkamppeterMost problems occur in the GUI, often you can print and scan when creating your print queue with Ubuntu's general tools, fully automatic setup of USB devices, system-config-printer, GNOME Control Center.09:19
* didrocks can’t print anymore since August on the LTS while it used to work with this printer :(09:20
tkamppeterhp-check and hp-doctor check for build dependencies and they also try to find out your distro and from this distro take the last supported release and then they chack whether you have the exact library version numbers of that distro. so usually fails if you have a distro released after your HPLIP version, which is always the case if you use the HPLIP which comes with Ubuntu.09:21
tkamppeterdidrocks, which printer do you have?09:22
didrockstkamppeter: Epson Stylus Photo rx560, I opened a bug a couple of months ago and pinged you, but you never got the time to get to it I guess09:23
tkamppeterLooks like a Gutenprint problem for me.09:23
tkamppeterdidrocks, could you give me the bug number?09:24
didrockstkamppeter: bug #189198709:25
ubot5bug 1891987 in cups (Ubuntu) "epson stylus photo rx560 is detected, added, but when printing, task is ending up immediatelly with success" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189198709:25
didrockshappy to retry and give any kind of info you need09:25
seb128tkamppeter, thanks for the summary, now that there is a hplip that is compatible with the LTS could we maybe SRU it or at least backport some fixes to have our LTS work better?09:27
tkamppeterseb128, if possible, we should simply SRU it altogether, as this kind of problem cannot be fixed by small patches.09:28
seb128tkamppeter, could you check if SRUing the new version would be technically possible and maybe work on that if it is?09:28
tkamppeterAlso development by HP is done secretly, only releases pushed out. So if something gets fixed one does not know why.09:29
tkamppeterThey also refuse to post patches when they fix something.09:29
tkamppeterseb128, I will try. Don't know whether the SRU team will allow a new upstream version due to the fact that the version in the release is a complete mess.09:31
seb128if the current version is not compatible with the available dependencies it sounds like a valid reason to accept a new version as a SRU09:32
seb128oSoMoN, bug #1900334 do you have any idea what could have changed that created the issue? I can confirm the cursor is buggy here but I don't remember if it was right before...10:01
ubot5bug 1900334 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Mouse pointer theme not honoured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190033410:01
oSoMoNseb128, I'm not seeing that here on groovy, I'll look into it after lunch11:38
seb128oSoMoN, enjoy lunch!11:40
Laneybe good to get some release notes: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-notes/15533 (known bugs, a few highlighted new features e.g. versions of major stuff)12:01
Laneyif people have time :>12:01
didrockslaney using his AA powers!12:12
luna_oSoMoN: another Firefox to build one day earlier: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/82.0/ 14:05
oSoMoNluna_, almost done building in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages, testing and feedback welcome14:06
luna_oSoMoN: will do when its done built14:07
oSoMoNwell it is built for all releases and all architectures already, except arm* on groovy14:07
luna_oSoMoN: installed it now, started on 20.10 and could surf to Facebook and Gmail 14:18
luna_haven't tested anymore yet14:18
oSoMoNthat's a good start :)14:18
hellsworthgood morning desktopers14:58
marcustomlinsonhey hellsworth15:00
jibelGood morning hellsworth 15:01
hellsworthhi there guys!15:01
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 15:08
paridejust found a really annoying libreoffice-calc bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/190045415:10
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1900454 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Calc doesn't recalculate formulas on cell content changes" [High,New]15:10
hellsworthparide: thanks i'll take a look15:14
seb128oSoMoN, thunderbird also has the wrong cursor issue, probably something theme or snapd...15:38
seb128kenvandine, do you know of any recent change that could make snaps have the wront mouse cursor, e.g bug #1900334 (and I just noticed it on thunderbird as well now)15:38
ubot5bug 1900334 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Mouse pointer theme not honoured" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190033415:38
oSoMoNseb128, so what you're seeing is the wrong cursor theme, right? because the problem described in the bug report mentions the theme, but what the screencast shows is a scaling issue15:46
kenvandineseb128: I think you have gtk-common-themes from candidate, right?16:47
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seb128kenvandine, no, stable but I tried candidate now and no difference18:28
kenvandineseb128: any chance your interfaces aren't connected?18:43
kenvandinecontent[icon-themes]      thunderbird:icon-themes      gtk-common-themes:icon-themes    -18:43
kenvandinesnap connections thunderbird18:43
seb128kenvandine, that's a xubuntu session as described on the theme and I think the issue is what Olivier described, they use whiteglass and that isn't included in the themes?18:45
seb128on the bug*18:46
seb128well, some users claim also they had the issue recently, so probably a different problem I confirmed18:47
kenvandineyeah, gtk-common-themes doesn't seem to include Whiteglass18:50
kenvandineseb128: so that's the default for xubuntu?18:51
bluesabreI think the issue in Xubuntu was using the “Default” theme, instead of explicitly requesting Human.18:52
kenvandinei haven't seen any reference to xubuntu, so i must be missing something :)18:53
bluesabrehttps://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/7ea4e59df2394140b28cf92b2651d327a800f00f was the fix we made for it iirc18:55
bluesabreIt’s been a while, sorry for popping in, but I think that was it :)18:57
kenvandinebluesabre: no worries, thanks for the ingo18:58
kenvandineDMZ-White is included in gtk-common-themes18:58
kenvandineso that should be fine18:58
seb128bluesabre, thanks, there has been no package upload to Ubuntu with that change though?19:53
bluesabreseb128: Yeah, you’re probably right. I’ve been away a lot recently, and probably failed to land that upload. I’ll get it up for a post release SRU this week.20:04
seb128bluesabre, thanks20:05
seb128kenvandine, k, so submitter of the bug is always using whiteglass but under GNOME, maybe it makes sense to just add that one to gtk-common-themes?20:06

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