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IrcsomeBot1<Swift110> Hello there02:53
rafa<test>05:59
rafai got it running but the res was ALL FUCKED up.06:02
rafaworking onfixing now.06:02
guivercrafa, mind your language please.06:04
rafaoops sry, wont happ'n agn06:07
rafabrb06:09
cirohi, I would like to take a look at the source code of Kubuntu's installer, where can I get it?06:57
RikMillsciro: https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity07:03
ciroRikMills: thanks!07:03
IrcsomeBot1<abhishekbatra> Hi, the application menu is not visible for applications after I upgraded to Kubuntu 20.0408:05
IrcsomeBot1<abhishekbatra> How can I get it back?08:05
IrcsomeBot1<abhishekbatra> This includes e.g. Kate and Dolphin08:05
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IrcsomeBot1<HosseinG110> hi there08:31
IrcsomeBot1<HosseinG110> tday i install kubuntu and its working in command line interface but when i hit ctrl+alt+f1 ,graphic interface not working08:33
IrcsomeBot1<HosseinG110> please help me08:33
IrcsomeBot1<HosseinG110> @HosseinG110, its a black screen08:37
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franzopow[m]Hi. I am trying to download qjackctl 0.6.3 from kubuntu repos but looks like it is not available. Instead I have this old 2017 version (0.5.1)09:32
franzopow[m]the latest version uses Qt 5. Is that the problem why I can't find it on the kubu repos?09:32
franzopow[m]I had to install app image version, instead09:33
IrcsomeBot1<smhk1379> @HosseinG110, Could you use graphical interface before?  … Try ctrl+alt+f1 to f709:35
franzopow[m]Hi. I am trying to download qjackctl 0.6.3 from kubuntu repos but looks like it is not available. Instead I have this old 2017 version (0.5.1)09:41
franzopow[m]the latest version uses Qt 5. Is that the problem why I can't find it on the kubu repos?09:41
franzopow[m]I had to install app image version, instead09:41
tomreyn!latest | franzopow[m]09:42
ubottufranzopow[m]: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.09:42
franzopow[m]I didn't found anything in the ppas09:42
tomreynfranzopow[m]: which kubuntu version are you running there?09:42
franzopow[m]that's why I am asking here. I am on 20.04 Kubuntu09:42
tomreynright, 20.04 provides version 0.5.0-1ubuntu209:43
franzopow[m]Yes, it's the same since 2017. The latest 0.6 is stable, it's just that it is not updated on Ubuntu. Maybe it's because kubuntu has Qt 4?09:45
tomreynif the newer version has a bug fix or feature you need, and you think many others will benefit fro it as well, you could post a bug report about this.09:45
franzopow[m]or am I wrong?09:45
franzopow[m]0.5 = Qt409:46
franzopow[m]0.6 = Qt509:46
tomreyni think kubuntu 20.04 comes with qt 5.something09:47
franzopow[m]mmm so there's no real problem about that09:48
franzopow[m]how can I open a bug report?09:48
tomreyn!bug09:48
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.09:48
tomreyn"Kubuntu 20.04 LTS ships with Qt LTS 5.12.8": https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Qt_LTS_release09:49
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IrcsomeBot1<HosseinG110> @smhk1379, befor this i work with ubuntu and it was fine with f110:26
IrcsomeBot1<smhk1379> @HosseinG110, Did that help?10:30
franzopow[m]<ubottu "If you find a bug in Ubuntu or a"> roger. I will compile a bug10:53
franzopow[m]I ran ubuntu-bug qjackctl but I can't add the reason why I am sending a bug report11:00
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Mamarokfranzopow[m]: this is unlikely to end in 20.04 as it needs a newer Qt version, wait for 20.1012:50
Mamarokmind you, Groovy also ships version 0.5.0, so you need to wait for eventual backports into 20.10 later on, as it depends on Qr 5.15, and Groovy has Qt 5.14.212:54
Mamarokyou can ask for 0.6.0 in Groovy, though12:57
BluesKajHi all13:10
IrcsomeBot1<shuhao zhang> it should be event.reply i think.13:19
amichairhelp! I just tried upgrading form 18.04 to 20.04, upgrade aborted in the middle (some python error about missing tasks field), continued from terminal with apt, rebooted... now I see an unfamiliar login screen. When I click on the password input, before I can type anything, it all goes blank except for the mouse cursor. Now what?15:08
amichairoh, I just discovered if I continue typing anyway on the blank screen and hit enter at the end, then the login screen is visible oncd again, with the password supposedly written, but enter does nothing, it just sits there.15:10
amichairit's repeatable, i.e. every time I click on the password input field the screen goes blank, then I hit enter and it shows up again. but password is not accepted, cursor just keeps on blinking on the password input field.15:12
tomreynamichair: you'll probably need to switch to y tty and complete the upgrade from there.15:24
tomreyn!tty | amichair15:24
ubottuamichair: To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution15:24
tomreynthis would gather info on the state of your apt package manager:15:25
tomreynsudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog15:25
amichairtomreyn: apt update && full-upgrade completes successfully... what else left to do?15:25
tomreynno warnings, no errors?15:25
amichairall good, nothing to do15:26
amichairI resumed the apt stuff before the reboot, it completed it, seemed ok15:27
amichairafter reboot it just says there's nothing to do, all good15:27
tomreyni assume you're confirming that there are no warnings.15:27
tomreyninstall apt-fforktracer and use it to identify packages which should not be installed, or will need to have a third party repository enabled to gain an upgrade path15:28
tomreyn* apt-forktracer (single f)15:28
amichairindeed. I can't copy pase from the broken pc, but the usual 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 to remove, etc.15:28
tomreynyou can pipe output into    nc termbin.com 9999    for sharing it15:29
amichairoh neat, didn't know about that15:30
amichairtermbin.com/hwbb15:30
tomreyni see a lot of "18.04" there15:30
tomreynall the packages which are listed without [brackets] on theior line lack an upgrade path / an apt repository15:31
tomreynlooks like you had a lot of third party software installed when you started your upgrade. an unsupported situation, and probably the cause of its failure15:32
tomreynsome of these packages must be from pre-18-04 releases, based on their names15:33
amichaironly a couple things are from external repos I think, all others from the standard repos iirc15:33
amichaircould be, this pc has gone through several kubuntu upgrades over the years15:34
amichairis this related to not being able to perform a login, or unrelated package cleanup?15:34
amichairoh maybe the installer disabled some other repos that I need to re-enable?15:35
tomreynsudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999    would show which apt sources you have enabled now15:36
amichairoh, so maybe I did have a few more third-party repos configured :-)15:36
amichairmaybe I need to manually edit the sources to this release name15:37
tomreyni wouldn't know, got no info15:38
amichairyet still quite helpful ;-)15:38
tomreynseveral of these packages date back to xenial (16.04), may have held back (security relevant?) updates all the time you were running 18.04.15:42
tomreynyet others are from 14.04, i think15:43
amichairso what's the best course of action? uninstall all of them?15:51
amichairdoes anything here seem related to login or session manager or such?15:54
tomreyneither re-active your ppas, those which still support focal, and install the available updates and hope they're compatible15:54
tomreynor purge the packages and their configurations15:54
tomreynyou're already far outside of what's supported, clean up first.15:55
amichairand after fiddling with the ppas etc. do I need to do anything else, or just reboot and hope for the best?15:57
tomreynapt update && apt full-upgrade16:00
tomreyn+ reboot + hope for the best16:00
tomreynsometimes clearing out ~/.cache helps, too16:00
amichairtomreyn: following a hunch, I found that plasma-desktop was not installed! installed it, and now I can login16:23
amichairhaven't looked for other side effects yet16:23
amichairbut I am worried that it's possible other packages weren't install just as this one wasn't16:23
amichairhow can I re-install everything that was supposed to be there during the upgrade?16:23
tomreynapt install kubuntu-desktop    should get your all the components required for the kubuntu desktop16:26
amichairtomreyn: yeah that one I did, I was referring to how to find out all the other packages that were supposed to be installed and weren't, so I can make sure to install them as well16:28
amichairit's possible plasma-desktop was the only one that silently disappeared, but I'd like to be sure there isn't other stuff missing that will be less obvious to find16:28
amichairI assume the installer has a list of all the packages required in the release... any way to run it again, or get the list somehow?16:30
franzopow[m]<Mamarok "franzopow: this is unlikely to e"> I see, thank you Mamarok16:32
tomreynamichair: i think thoese are the packages installed by the kubuntu 20.04.1 installer http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/20.04.1/release/kubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest16:42
amichairtomreyn: thanks, do u maybe know of a way to check if any of them is not installed?16:44
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tomreynamichair: curl -s http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/20.04.1/release/kubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest | awk '{print $1}' | xargs sudo echo apt -s -y install16:50
tomreynuntested. remove 'echo' and '-s' when you're happy16:50
tomreynbetter run it with -s the first time16:51
amichairis that a dry run? can't find it in man page16:55
amichairyep, I see a bunch of other stuff missing, I recognize dolphin and a couple others that should probably be installed17:11
amichairtomreyn: ok ran it, got an error with samba missing some directories but googled a workaround... hopefully now it's all good17:34
amichairtomreyn: thanks for you time and help!!17:34
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IrcsomeBot<liberatorf> (Photo, 127x127) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/EyfZae37/file_38059.jpg Hello, i have such problem. Can i get normal rounded corners?19:13
tomreynamichair: you're welcome19:30
ExousianI want to try Kubuntu without installing on my PC. How to download and install kubuntu directly to a USB thumb drive.19:31
tomreynExousian: same as when you install to a fixed drive. you just set a different target when installing19:36
tomreynif you have enough resources, you could also install to a vm.19:36
Exousianthanks tomreyn. I'll try it.19:42
h1potI'm having a problem changing the default language of gimp in ubuntu 20.04, can anyone help me? i've installed gimp using default repositories19:48
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IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> Hello19:58
tomreynhi20:00
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> I upgraded from Kubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 two days ago. … Desktop PC with  … Kernel: 5.4.0-52-generic x86_64  … bits: 64  … desktop: KDE Plasma 5.18.5  … Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS (Focal Fossa) … Intel Core i5-4670 … and 12GB RAM. … Now the computer is quite slow when using LibreOffice, Okular and Dolphin. Mouse movements are slow in parts, it takes several seconds to open the print dialog. Menu dialogues in LibreOff20:11
IrcsomeBotonly partially after 2-3 seconds. … Is this a known problem under 20.04 or would I first have to search for errors locally. … Sufficient memory is available. The root partition still has 70GB free. … Does anyone have an idea? Thanks a lot20:11
tomreynwaldbursche: some of your text was cut off here on irc after "Menu dialogues in LibreOff" << there20:15
swift110oh wow20:15
tomreynwaldbursche: run    journalctl -f    see if it keeps repeating error messages there20:16
tomreynswift110: what's up?20:16
swift110im great man getting laundry done20:16
swift110tomreyn, im in offtopic as well bro20:17
tomreynyes, looks like. ;-)20:17
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> @tomreyn, Menu dialogues in LibreOffice also start only partially after 2-3 seconds.20:18
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> Is this a known problem under 20.04 or would I first have to search for errors locally.20:18
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> Sufficient memory is available. The root partition still has 70GB free. … Does anyone have an idea? Thanks a lot20:18
tomreyni very much doubt this is a generic problem20:18
tomreynsee above for what to try next20:18
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> Part 1 … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/49gSFKKQ2S/20:23
tomreynwaldbursche: let's see this instead:   journalctl -k | nc termbin.com 999920:25
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/n8mcqxfwhP/20:29
tomreynhmm, not sure what you did to produce this log, but you didn't run the above command20:31
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> Sorry, forgot | ...20:33
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> https://termbin.com/dgyb20:34
tomreynyou have bios F5, but F8 is the latest (and probably last, too)20:35
tomreynhttps://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H97M-HD3-rev-11/support#support-dl-bios20:35
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> Okay20:35
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> Thanks20:37
tomreyn!mtrr | waldbursche20:37
ubottuwaldbursche: Memory Type Range Registers (MTRR) is how an operating system learns which ranges of physical memory to cache, and how. If your log says "mtrr_cleanup: can not find optimal value", read https://github.com/tomreyn/linux_mtrr_size_fix20:37
tomreyn^ you have this message on your log. updating the bios *may* fix it, so consider this first20:37
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> I try this20:37
tomreynthis is often also causing problems with the nvidia graphics performance as a side effect20:38
tomreynnote there are two hardware revisions for your board, and i don't know which one you have there, but firmware downloads seem to be the same20:39
tomreyni mean bios updates20:39
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> I think so it's a problem with nvidia20:39
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> @tomreyn, Okay20:39
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tomreynwaldbursche: your /dev/sdb is likely broken20:45
tomreynIntenso SSD SATAIII, S0423B0, max UDMA/13320:46
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> @tomreyn, Hmmm, it's working20:48
tomreyntry cross-testing sata cables before you replace it, and testing it with smartctl, though20:48
tomreyncommunication with it froze towards the bottom of the log you posted20:49
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> i see ... mmmh20:49
tomreynthe sata link was reset which made it work for now.20:49
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> okay20:50
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> I have just reconnected all SATA cables21:20
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> I think it looks better than before21:20
IrcsomeBot<waldbursche> https://termbin.com/uzbk21:20
cfaberdoes anyone have any ideas why I'd be seeing a lot more I/O errors on NFS (soft, ver=3) mounts moving from 18.04.5 to 20.04.122:06
cfaberthis is a wifi connected client and my error rate seems to have gone up significantly22:06
cfaberserver is the same old debian nfs I've had running for years22:07
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