[00:22] <hayukimori> Hi
[00:22] <hayukimori> Olá
[00:23] <wxl> aloha
[00:23] <hayukimori> how are you?
[00:23] <wxl> fair, and you?
[00:23] <hayukimori> I'm fine
[00:24] <wxl> good. need some help?
[00:25] <hayukimori> I'm just testing the update. never seen this program before
[00:25] <wxl> yeah there wasn't an analogue to it in the old version
[00:26] <hayukimori> do you speak another language?
[00:27] <wxl> not well :) which language were you hoping for?
[00:28] <hayukimori> pt br
[00:29] <hayukimori> my english is not good ;-;
[00:29] <wxl> oh yeah hm
[00:29] <wxl> i can probably send you to a general ubuntu channel
[00:29] <wxl> let's see
[00:29] <wxl> !pt
[00:29] <wxl> ^^
[00:29] <hayukimori> thx <3
[00:30] <wxl> no problem
[00:31] <hayukimori> I will pass here more often
[00:32] <wxl> sounds good :)
[00:36] <hayukimori> are you a programmer?
[00:37] <wxl> i dabble a bit but unfortunately must take off for the evening. be well and hope to see yu again!
[00:38] <hayukimori> ok
[00:38] <hayukimori> bye bye
 @hayukimori [<hayukimori> bye bye], We hace a portuguese channel, but is in telegram
[00:41] <hayukimori> wow
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[05:10] <rafa> I am running windows 7 and working on switching to Ubuntu.  i want to run the test platform from the USB boot disk i created but I am having some trouble booting to it. My machine wont see it, during the boot sequence? why?
[05:12] <guiverc> rafa, did you verify the ISO after download (example is found in the manual; https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.1/retrieving_the_image.html)  you didn't specify a release, but next I'd verify the write to media..
[05:13] <rafa> i did... first thing i "CHECKED"
[05:13] <rafa> a'right... let me check.
[05:13] <guiverc> rafa, depending on unstated release, you can use the "Check disc for defects" item seen in the first picture of this manual page https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.3/installation.html ; use another box if it won't boot on wanted box; if fails to boot on both boxes, you could try third but it's likely a bad write to media
[05:13] <rafa> your gonnna laugh but during the but sequence couldn't you pick your drive to boot FROM?
[05:13] <rafa> (windows sux)
[05:14] <guiverc> getting a thumb-drive to boot is firmware (box) specific... it may require f9. f12, or other key which is brand/model/firmware specific
[05:19] <rafa> brb
 Any idea where bugs in outdated packages should be reported? Currently Lubuntu packages Inkscape 0.925 with some bugs that would be fixed by upgrading to 1.0.
 Or is reporting stuff like that waste of time, as bottleneck is elsewhere?
[05:34] <guiverc> @matkoniecz, I often see such bugs filed on launchpad as a request to update package... (ie. request to update)  it may only be actioned if packager has time/resources
[05:35] <guiverc> sorry for repitition;
 guiverc: "launchpad as a request to update package... (ie. request to update)" - what is the proper way to find such page?
 I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+filebug but this is old abandoned issue tracker of Inkscape itself
[05:46] <guiverc> launchpad is where Ubuntu bugs are generally tracked. My advice was general, some projects prefer upstream (github or wherever team work; looks like sourceforge for inkscape), but ubuntu uses lp.  current packaged version is 1.0.1-1 is current for groovy
[05:46] <guiverc> https://packages.ubuntu.com/groovy/inkscape
 So it will be packaged for 20.10.
[06:08] <guiverc> mathkoniecz, you can use `rmadison inkscape` to view package versions for various supported releases (inc. ESM & stuff unsupported by Lubuntu)
[06:08] <guiverc> groovy is frozen currently; final testing pre-release on thursday
[07:12] <murlidhar> my android phone messed up my sd card while trying to copy the files from it. can anyone help me force mount the sdcard into desktop now so that i can recover my files?
 @guiverc [<guiverc> mathkoniecz, you can use `rmadison inkscape` to view package versions …], Nice, what is the meaning of "rmadison" name? (I hope there is some mnemonic here)
[07:35] <guiverc> I don't know sorry... I have trouble remembering it correctly (it's rmad<tab> to my fingers)
[07:36] <guiverc> according to man it's 'Remotely query the Debian Archive database about packages'
[07:39] <Serbiano> Hello guys. :) I get this message "/casper/vmlinuz: file not found when starting Lubuntu  20.04.1 LTS 64.bit. My hardware is 4GB RAM,  q8200 Intel - quad core 2,3 GHz and GR1M-ES2L motherboard. I have installed Win10 Pro OS already. Does anyone know what's the problem? Sorry for the bold, I dunno how to change it. Best regards.
[07:39] <guiverc> Serbiano, My guess is the ISO was flawed (did you verify it's checksum?) or the write to your installation media was faulty (did it verify?)
[07:40] <guiverc> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.1/retrieving_the_image.html  has some detail on verifying the ISO
[07:40] <murlidhar> exit
[07:43] <Serbiano> guiverc, thanks, I'll see it. My USB installation media is separated in 2 partitions, one of them I can't delete even in CMD.  I did it with RUFUS. I'll try again to make a boot media right and to give a feedback here.
[07:43] <Serbiano> How to verify it with CMD or Powershell?
[07:43] <Serbiano> If you know.
[07:44] <guiverc> Serbiano, the example uses sha256sum I believe; it's been the same for decades  (not sure if it's default in windows or needs to be added)
[07:44] <Serbiano> guiverc, ok, I'll try, thank you.
[07:46] <guiverc> introduced 2005; so XP days in windows terms.. not decades ago  (it was sha1sum at one stage too, ie. variation of it maybe required)
[07:51] <Serbiano> guiverc, I used this command: C:\Users\xxxxxx>certutil -hashfile Downloads\lubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso sha256
[07:51] <guiverc> :)   I'd not have guessed that.. (been away from windows for too long luckily)
[07:54] <Serbiano> Well, I have to wait for some good spirit to see is this ok, but the numbers don't match with Lubuntu verification. And if it is verified (let's say :)  ) then I need to just make a boot installation media again now and try again? I should do that? Sorry, I am new completely to Linux and Lubuntu, dunno anything :D
[07:56] <Serbiano> I ll do that and see, maybe it is right since it is verification through Windows not through Linux, I dunno...
[07:56] <Serbiano> See ya in couple of minutes if it doesn't work. Thank you.
[08:30] <guiverc> Serbiano, I've seen issues before where microsoft tool includes the ^Z (EOF marker) in it's calculation that is not part of the actual file.. but I can't help there (i've not taken much notice; apple, BSD, unix, and all GNU/Linux use the same sha256sum codes)
 Is `/panel/showdesktop/show_hide` command working for you?
 For me it shows that it does not exist (on 20.04).
 Can you modify what is triggered and see whatever that works?
 I suspect that you trigger command that used to work in LXDE or something
[09:51] <Serbiano> guiverc, I'll see on some national language forum. Thank you, I ve sent messages to Lubuntu official page and I'm waiting to be added in a fb group + I ve sent the request on the Linkeding group, my drive is formatting, I am using a slow option just to be sure everything will be ok. Best regards, thanks
[10:31] <guiverc> Serbiano, I don't know what you mean by Official page?  (I see nothing on lubuntu.me that applies, nor discourse.lubuntu.me), and am not involved with fb/linkedin sorry
 Is there now some sane built-in method of storing git credentials? Some time ago I needed to compile something manually and so on and I wonder is it still needed to do this.
[12:20] <Serbiano> quiverc https://www.facebook.com/Lubuntu.Official.Page/
[12:20] <Serbiano> Wait, lubuntu.me is not official?
[12:21] <Serbiano> It is... I guess?
 lubuntu.me is official
[12:24] <Serbiano> Thanks, quiverc is confusing me.
 I don't think there is much activity on Facebook.
[12:26] <Serbiano> Well, I just had problems with verification of Lubuntu on Win10 so I needed help.
[12:27] <Serbiano> C:\Users\xxxxxx>certutil -hashfile Downloads\lubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso sha256
[12:28] <Serbiano> That's the CMP I used. I dunno if it is verified or not, because numbers are different, but I used certutil command in Win10. So that's what I'm now making my boot media of.
 hmm, it could be a corrupted download if the SHA256sum doesn't match.
 The few times I have needed to use Win 10 I used powershell. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsoft.powershell.utility/get-filehash?view=powershell-7
 powershell on Windows is best to get hashes with just saying
 if you're on Windows
 so +1 to that solution @kc2bez
[14:34] <Serbiano> lubot thank you, I'll try
[16:01] <nmzm> Hello everyone. I can't say I'm new to Linux, but I'm new to compile some packages from source. I the thing which is really strange for me is: Why I need to compile a tons of dependencies, which doesn't even needed if I'll install the same package from repos? :D
[16:05] <tomreyn> build dependencies differ from binary package dependencies. when you install binary packages, they may contain binaries which have already been linked against other software, but still depend on other (non-ebedded) libraries.
[16:05] <nmzm> tomreyn: Hmm, makes sense, thank you! :)
[16:06] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[18:00] <hayukimori> Hello