| callmepk | goood morning | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| jibel | Good morning | 03:58 |
| jamesh | duflu: do you have any tips for testing mutter changes independent of the rest of gnome-shell? | 04:20 |
| duflu | Morning jibel | 04:56 |
| duflu | Sorry jamesh ... | 04:56 |
| jamesh | duflu: no problem. Context is that I had a go at fixing the X11 abstract socket issue here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1508 | 04:57 |
| duflu | jamesh, generally there's no reason to test them separately but if you want to then opening a terminal in mutter is the starting point | 04:57 |
| duflu | Yeah I saw that | 04:58 |
| jibel | Hi duflu | 04:59 |
| jamesh | thanks. With a full gnome-shell session, there's enough starting up to trigger Xwayland to launch before I've had a chance to test things | 04:59 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:43 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:57 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:57 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, ça va ? | 07:03 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, ça va, j’ai commencé la journée par du support technique pour ma femme a qui on a filé un ordinateur de bureau pour travailler de la maison, sous windows naturellement, et rien ne marche OOTB, amusant… | 07:04 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: j’imagine de lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngues MAJ et reboot d’abord :) | 07:05 |
| oSoMoN | ah non ça j’avais anticipé, j’ai laissé le bousin tourner pendant le week-end :) | 07:07 |
| didrocks | héhé | 07:08 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks and oSoMoN | 07:09 |
| jibel | salut didrocks oSoMoN | 07:11 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, jibel | 07:12 |
| marcustomlinson | morning callmepk jibel jamesh duflu didrocks oSoMoN and other desktoppers | 07:17 |
| duflu | Morning marcustomlinson | 07:17 |
| jibel | salut marcustomlinson | 07:19 |
| callmepk | hi marcustomlinson and morning/afternoon duflu jibel jamesh didrocks oSoMoN | 07:23 |
| jamesh | hi marcustomlinson, callmepk | 07:23 |
| jibel | hi callmepk | 07:23 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 07:28 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 07:29 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you today? | 07:31 |
| duflu | seb128, unusually good. I managed to clear my sinuses, sleep better and exercise all in one day | 07:31 |
| duflu | How are you seb128 ? | 07:31 |
| seb128 | that's nice | 07:31 |
| jibel | salut seb128 | 07:32 |
| seb128 | I'm alright, though had a short night again so let's see how that plays out during the day. The little one had a cold with nose blocked and was awake from 3am to 5am (same as yesterday) | 07:32 |
| seb128 | salut jibel, comment ça va ? | 07:33 |
| jibel | seb128, ça roule, still waiting for isos, that's my only obsession this week :) | 07:33 |
| seb128 | right | 07:34 |
| kenvandine | good morning desktoppers | 07:52 |
| marcustomlinson | hey kenvandine | 07:52 |
| marcustomlinson | what time is it?? | 07:52 |
| duflu | Hi kenvandine (?) | 07:52 |
| kenvandine | almost 4am | 07:52 |
| kenvandine | i'm up for a meeting | 07:53 |
| oSoMoN | ouch | 07:53 |
| oSoMoN | good morning kenvandine | 07:53 |
| kenvandine | my monitors do seem much brighter than usual at this time of day :) | 07:55 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, can you ping us all when the first RC isos are ready? | 07:56 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hum, are you not in bed yet or already up?! | 07:56 |
| seb128 | oh, I read the backlog | 07:57 |
| seb128 | outch, good luck with that | 07:57 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, hey marcustomlinson , how are you? | 07:57 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128, I'm doing good, thanks | 07:57 |
| marcustomlinson | kenvandine: you're gonna feel it this afternoon... :P | 07:58 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: doing well thanks, yourself? | 07:58 |
| seb128 | tired, cf backlog, but otherwise alright | 08:00 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: what's cf? | 08:01 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cf. | 08:02 |
| seb128 | but basically baby got a cold and didn't sleep well which we means we didn't either | 08:03 |
| marcustomlinson | :( | 08:04 |
| Laney | yo | 08:04 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Laney | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:05 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 08:06 |
| didrocks999 | hey Laney | 08:11 |
| Laney | moin marcustomlinson seb128 duflu didrocks999! how's it going? | 08:15 |
| didrocks999 | good, baby with cold for a good 3-4 days, short nights as well, but that’s what being parent is I guess :) | 08:16 |
| Laney | :( | 08:17 |
| Laney | it's ok, one day you will be an old man and this baby will be helping you out! | 08:18 |
| seb128 | k, just spent longer than I should have writing a small script | 08:18 |
| seb128 | but npw | 08:18 |
| seb128 | $ ./weeklynotupdated.py https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/desktop-team-updates-monday-19th-october-2020/18862 | 08:18 |
| seb128 | ['laney', 'jamesh', 'ken-vandine', 'osomon', 'robert-ancell'] | 08:18 |
| Laney | lol | 08:18 |
| Laney | I'm already writing it | 08:18 |
| seb128 | if your name is in that list pelase write your update | 08:18 |
| kenvandine | i'll write it in a few :) | 08:18 |
| seb128 | thx | 08:18 |
| seb128 | we are supposed to post on monday, writing it now is no excuse :) | 08:18 |
| seb128 | but alright for this time | 08:19 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, may I suggest that your script is broken? ;) | 08:19 |
| seb128 | next step is to cron that script with an email trigger | 08:19 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, hum, let me debug :p | 08:19 |
| didrocks999 | I bet case issue | 08:20 |
| seb128 | not case, that was handled, but launchpadid != discourseid | 08:22 |
| seb128 | k, fixed :p | 08:24 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, sorry about that :) | 08:25 |
| seb128 | (robert was wrongly listed as well due to the same issue) | 08:28 |
| oSoMoN | no worries, thanks for this useful script | 08:28 |
| duflu | Yeah I was going to say, Robert already did post before anyone | 08:41 |
| jibel | maybe you could improve this script to grab code changes from various vcs and bug tracker and fill the reports for us | 08:43 |
| marcustomlinson | :D | 08:46 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, is http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/418/builds worth testing, or are we waiting for rebuilds? | 10:38 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, you can start with this build | 11:56 |
| jibel | Trevinho, can you help testing 20.10 on nVidia or anyone else? | 12:54 |
| Trevinho | jibel: yeah | 12:54 |
| === didrocks999 is now known as didrocks | ||
| Trevinho | actually.... fffffukkk, I think i left the charger in the coworking as I didn't go today as it's raining... I can see how much juice I still have | 12:55 |
| Trevinho | it boots at least :) | 12:56 |
| jibel | there is still tomorrow, but better know sooner than later if something's broken | 12:59 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: SleepAsFitbit should have warned you about the charger :p | 12:59 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: should had :D, but no... actually battery is still full so I can do some testing :) | 12:59 |
| didrocks | heh | 12:59 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-20 | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Oct 20 13:30:29 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 13:30 |
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| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 13:30 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 13:30 |
| Trevinho | hola | 13:30 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 13:31 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 13:31 |
| callmepk | o/ | 13:31 |
| jibel | o~ | 13:31 |
| jibel | Good morning hellsworth | 13:31 |
| seb128 | k, seems like we have enough people to get started! | 13:31 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bug | 13:31 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:31 |
| seb128 | no desktop entry | 13:31 |
| didrocks | hey | 13:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:32 |
| seb128 | those are assigned | 13:32 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ff-bug | 13:32 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:32 |
| seb128 | bug #1899262 | 13:32 |
| ubot5 | bug 1899262 in wpa (Ubuntu) "Broken dbus GetAll message to wpa supplicant interface properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899262 | 13:32 |
| seb128 | seems like foundation got pinged about it, I will follow up with them to know if they are owning the issue | 13:33 |
| seb128 | bug #1886092 | 13:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1886092 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice doesn't list gpg private key for a digital signature due to apparmor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886092 | 13:34 |
| seb128 | I tagged this one, the apparmor profile from the deb blocks gpg communication it seems | 13:34 |
| seb128 | unsure how common signing documents is but it sounds like something we would like to fix in a LTS since that's a problem we created | 13:35 |
| hellsworth | it would be nice to have that fixed | 13:35 |
| seb128 | +1 from me to nominate in case that's not obvious from what I said there | 13:35 |
| hellsworth | i agree | 13:35 |
| kenvandine | +1 | 13:35 |
| hellsworth | but this vote is not to have it fixed by release time right? | 13:35 |
| seb128 | k, nominating then, thanks | 13:35 |
| hellsworth | since that's in 2 days | 13:36 |
| seb128 | that's focal we are reviewing (LTS) | 13:36 |
| hellsworth | oh right yes | 13:36 |
| seb128 | that was released in april :) | 13:36 |
| hellsworth | my bad | 13:36 |
| seb128 | but yeah, just something for the next SRU round imho | 13:36 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 13:36 |
| seb128 | that's it for focal incoming (the other bug it's a leftover that needs triaging) | 13:37 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:37 |
| seb128 | that list a some cleanups needed, I will handle those | 13:37 |
| seb128 | nothing needing discussion | 13:38 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-gg-bug | 13:38 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:38 |
| seb128 | the snap/wayland thing is leftover | 13:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, James mentioned that it could be workarounded in snapd potentially, should we try to do that even if there is a fix pending for GNOME? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | unsure if other distros are likely to get the patch included in their incoming releases | 13:39 |
| seb128 | would suck to have graphical snaps not working on e.g fedora 33 default session | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | yeah... but snapd releases take time too | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | i'll ask him what he thinks | 13:40 |
| Laney | that should be rls accepted though I'd say | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | i'd agree | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | but what about other distros | 13:40 |
| seb128 | @Laney, right, that's what I meant by leftover, it failed to be properly triaged previous meeting | 13:41 |
| Laney | ah | 13:41 |
| seb128 | we said we would accept it | 13:42 |
| kenvandine | seb128: where did james say it could be worked around in snapd? | 13:42 |
| seb128 | I will try again (sometime I just keep things to not delay the meeting and get distracted, and sometime launchpad fails and I don't notice) | 13:42 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, he said so on IRC, that snapd could do something similar to flatpak | 13:42 |
| kenvandine | ah | 13:42 |
| seb128 | like bindmount the socket or something, unsure what they are doing exactly | 13:42 |
| Laney | it should in the medium term, that's what Simon says on the MR too | 13:42 |
| Laney | but hoepfully that can be merged as a quick(er) fix | 13:43 |
| seb128 | right | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | cool, i'll check with him | 13:43 |
| seb128 | k, moving on | 13:43 |
| seb128 | bug #1898005 | 13:43 |
| ubot5 | bug 1898005 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL) called from DesktopManager::_destroyDesktopIcons()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898005 | 13:43 |
| seb128 | I tagged this one | 13:43 |
| seb128 | it's unclear to me if it's wayland specific, some reports claim so | 13:43 |
| seb128 | but it has a stack of duplicates and seems easy to trigger with remote mounts in e.g nautilus | 13:43 |
| seb128 | I'm +1 to accept since it's a crash and it's common, even if wayland isn't the default session | 13:44 |
| seb128 | opinions? | 13:44 |
| Trevinho | assume is mine | 13:44 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, thanks | 13:44 |
| seb128 | bug #1900334 | 13:45 |
| ubot5 | bug 1900334 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] Mouse pointer theme and scaling not honoured for cursor themes not included in gtk-common-themes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900334 | 13:45 |
| seb128 | I tagged it but failed to untag | 13:45 |
| seb128 | it got some debugging since and turned out to be specific to some themes and not a regression | 13:45 |
| seb128 | so let's skip, I'm untagging it | 13:45 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, would still be nice to include whiteglass in gtk-common-themes, do you want a trello card or something for that? | 13:46 |
| seb128 | ah | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | trello card would be good | 13:46 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN beat me to it | 13:46 |
| seb128 | https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/-/issues/21 | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | awesome | 13:46 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is that enough or do you still want the card? | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | that's good | 13:46 |
| seb128 | k | 13:46 |
| seb128 | that's it for incoming | 13:46 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:46 |
| seb128 | bug #1872159 needs triaging (got assigned to duflu for plymouth, needs the same for gdm) | 13:47 |
| ubot5 | bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu Groovy) "Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872159 | 13:47 |
| seb128 | k, that's it for bugs | 13:48 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 13:48 |
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| seb128 | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 13:48 |
| seb128 | desktop section is empty, which is the way it should be the week of release! | 13:48 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 13:49 |
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| seb128 | it's release week as said | 13:49 |
| seb128 | jibel, Laney , do we have candidate images yet? | 13:49 |
| jibel | yes | 13:49 |
| seb128 | great | 13:49 |
| jibel | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/20-10-release-candidate-isos-ready-for-testing/18894 | 13:50 |
| seb128 | ^ for everyone to do | 13:50 |
| hellsworth | woo hoo! | 13:50 |
| seb128 | I don't think the ISO testing hangout we did previous week is going to work as well today | 13:51 |
| seb128 | since the release people I think have their own event and aren't joining | 13:51 |
| seb128 | which meant other didn't stick around | 13:51 |
| hellsworth | that's ok. whoever comes is welcome | 13:51 |
| seb128 | right | 13:51 |
| seb128 | anything else? | 13:51 |
| didrocks | nothing for me | 13:51 |
| Laney | release note contributions would be welcome :-) | 13:52 |
| seb128 | ah, right | 13:52 |
| seb128 | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-notes right? | 13:52 |
| * seb128 is going to try to add some content | 13:52 | |
| Laney | yeah looks nice | 13:52 |
| Laney | thanks! | 13:52 |
| seb128 | what's the process? | 13:53 |
| seb128 | I don't seem to have edit rights | 13:53 |
| Laney | ask pope_y and get IS to enable that bloody plugin! | 13:54 |
| seb128 | k | 13:54 |
| seb128 | anything else? | 13:55 |
| seb128 | seems not, that's a wrap then, thanks desktopers and happy ISO testing! | 13:55 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 13:56 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 13:56:00 2020 UTC. | 13:56 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-10-20-13.30.moin.txt | 13:56 |
| hellsworth | thanks! | 13:56 |
| Laney | merci! | 13:57 |
| hellsworth | jibel: where are the candidate isos? | 14:10 |
| hellsworth | just the daily groovy? | 14:10 |
| jibel | hellsworth, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/418/builds/ | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | seb128: MR submitted for cursor issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/-/merge_requests/25 | 14:18 |
| jibel | hellsworth, the location on cdimage.u.c is the same than daily | 14:18 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, great | 14:22 |
| kenvandine | seb128: and your script won't catch me next week.. i have started my status update already :) | 14:26 |
| jibel | I can do mine too, I know what I'll do this week | 14:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, :-) | 14:28 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you listed whiteglass a second time, I guess you meant redglass? | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | oh sigh | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | yes | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | seb128: thanks for the review | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | i pushed a fix | 14:33 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:33 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the change seems fine to me, I will let Olivier review though since I don't really understand snapcraft details, e.g why using override-build with a call to snapcraftctl build rather than using the dump plugin to copy content | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | this is to pull the content from the stage-packages | 14:43 |
| seb128 | dump plugin would do that? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | or why do you need that overwrite, nil with only the stage packages and a stage wouldn't be enough? | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | because i need to move the content to where we expect it | 14:46 |
| kenvandine | but i might not need the snapcraftctl build | 14:46 |
| seb128 | I don't understand why that call is there at all, but I didn't do much snapcraft recently | 14:47 |
| kenvandine | i'll try removing it :) | 14:47 |
| kenvandine | it's harmless, but now i'm curious | 14:48 |
| hellsworth | ok great thanks jibel. i figured the daily images were the way to go | 14:59 |
| jibel | hellsworth, cool. Also if you want to follow the status of the release: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-20-10-release-status-tracking/18647 | 15:01 |
| hellsworth | ah thanks! | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | seb128: i've wiped my container and rebuilding without that build step to see how it looks | 15:04 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, k, let me know, I need to step out for a bit but I will give it another review later | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | jibel: eventually the battery died... (even though wasn't easy to plan :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1900741) but we MIGHT have an issue, as I didn't get the nvidia driver enabled just after reboot | 17:33 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1900741 in linux (Ubuntu) "Missing battery status information on HP Pavilion Notebook 15 bc5xxx" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:33 |
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