[00:40] <jayjo-> compdoc: I'm using ubuntu 20.04 as both the kvm host and a LAN machine to connect via qemu+ssh (separate machines)
[00:41] <jayjo-> I've been trying since last week to use the memstick installer so I have no GUI at all, just the serial console. But I haven't been able to get that to work virtualized. It does work just installing it on the host (no ubuntu).
[00:52] <jayjo-> I had believed that with virtualiztion the booting machine could have no idea it was virtualized.
[01:03] <sarnold> yeah, you haven't noticed yet you're virtualized anyway :)
[01:03]  * sarnold runs
[01:11] <jayjo-> oh no, now I don't know what to believe. I have some thinking to do
[01:12] <sarnold> oh that reminds me, I intended to paste this after running, but then got distracted
[01:12] <sarnold> https://www.mitre.org/sites/default/files/pdf/11_4921.pdf
[01:12] <sarnold> "New Results for Timing-Based Attestation"
[04:39] <ruben23> hi guys any idea how to resolved this issue --------> i run this ( lsblk ) i get this error ---> No command 'lsblk' found, did you mean:  Command 'lslk' from package 'lslk' (universe) lsblk: command not found
[04:39] <ruben23> are there any alternative command line this for Ubuntu server somehow
[05:07] <cpaelzer> ruben23: lsblk is part of util-linux which is essential and usually installed, but worth to check
[05:07] <cpaelzer> ruben23: what does "ls -laF /bin/lsblk" and "dpkg -l util-linux" give you?
[05:11] <ruben23>  cpaelzer:  ---> https://pastebin.com/3PD3KaqE
[05:12] <ruben23> my ubuntu server version is this ---> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS \n \l
[05:20] <cpaelzer> that is slightly old :-)
[05:21] <cpaelzer> ruben23: maybe lsblk didn't exist yet back then?
[05:23] <cpaelzer> ruben23: yep no trace of lsblk in 2.17.2-0ubuntu1.10.04.2
[05:23] <cpaelzer> you might consider upgrading for about a decade of new software :-)
[06:12] <maret> Hi everyone, quick question. I am trying to setup a ftp server on Ubuntu and I can connect to it through command line but I can't via filezilla. Not sure why. Here is output from filezilla with vsftpd config , thank you! https://pastebin.com/SNTrG8Bp
[11:46] <maret> Hi everyone, quick question. I am trying to setup a ftp server on Ubuntu and I can connect to it through command line but I can't via filezilla. Not sure why. Here is output from filezilla with vsftpd config , thank you! https://pastebin.com/SNTrG8Bp
[11:48] <mgedmin> maret: what's the network topology?  is there NAT going on between your client and your server?
[11:49] <mgedmin> did the command-line client try to use passive mode or active mode?
[11:49] <mgedmin> (and why on Earth would you be using FTP in the year of luigi 2020?)
[11:55] <maret> heh fair enough
[12:18] <RoyK> maret: if possible, just use scp, sftp or rsync over ssh (the default for rsync the last 15 years or so). It just works
[12:19] <RoyK> maret: ftp is old and just crappy
[12:24] <lordievader> Plus scp or rsync over ssh is so much easier
[12:24] <RoyK> indeed and in case of traversing nat, it's no problem at all. ftp really sucks at nat, especially if ssl/tls is involved
[13:35] <teward> RoyK: I think the only case of me having FTP in any location on my network was for an archive mirror lol.  I hate FTP xD
[13:35] <teward> so yes, avoid FTP if you can
[13:35] <teward> pure FTP*
[14:20]  * lordievader shares the hate of FTP
[14:52] <shubjero> Hey all, I updated apparmor packages on my system and I accidentally said 'keep old apparmor config'. How do I tell apt to download the new apparmor configs/policies?
[14:53] <shubjero> coreycb, perhaps you know?
[15:21] <tomreyn> shubjero: sudo apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss" <list-of-apparmor-related-packages-you-updated>
[15:22] <RoyK> teward: those mirrors can use http as well, so no need for ftp there either ;)
[18:34] <jayjo-> is there a way to boot directly from a USB using virt-manager and ubuntu as the KVM host? The best reference I could find says to first do everything as if an ISO installation, and then add the USB device via an edit: https://tails.boum.org/doc/advanced_topics/virtualization/virt-manager/index.en.html#index5h1 - tails is just an installation reference I found
[18:37] <sarnold> jayjo-: btw, have you seen the cloud images? they're pre-made installs, all you have to do is write some cloud-init data to configure the guest before you start using it
[18:37] <RoyK> jayjo-: I guess the easiest is to just dd if=/dev/(that usb thing) of=someimagefile bs=1M and just name that image file for boot
[18:37] <sarnold> jayjo-: I don't know what you're trying to do, but it sounds suspiciously like "I want to install an ubuntu"
[18:54] <jayjo-> I'm still trying to install the memstick pfsense serial installation on my ubuntu desktop. I've now tested quite a few OS installations with VNC, they seem to work without issues. So I created a pfsense usb stick, I wonder if using the whole disk instead of the .img file will help. I also created a tails usb to test booting from directly, as well
[19:00] <sarnold> jayjo-: aha, dang, then our cloud images won't help any..
[19:00] <RoyK> jayjo-: pfsense is freebsd, btw, not linux, but just use the image file with virt-manager
[19:57] <teward> RoyK: true, but legacy crap is legacy so >.>
[19:57] <teward> I use http/https xD
[19:59] <teward> jayjo-: weren't you here before about issues with the memstick serial installer?  And I sent you to #pfsense ?
[21:21] <jayjo-> yes, that was me :/ in my defense 1) I did go; their advice was mainly to use VNC (which I have) or to not virtualize it, and 2) i thought it had been long enough that you may not notice